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returntothepit >> discuss >> CIA supposedly put 400 Million into Iran Riots by arilliusbm on Jun 22,2009 11:00am
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toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Jun 22,2009 11:00am
Not the most credible source on the internet but I have no doubt in my mind that the CIA is involved with this somehow.
The CIA has been behind a number of other similar type operations in the past..

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread474894/



toggletoggle post by BoarcorpseJimbo   at Jun 22,2009 11:05am
so i tried your link, and this is what it gave me.... weird..



toggletoggle post by MikeofDecrepitude at Jun 22,2009 11:07am
The CIA sure loves their proxy groups, to stir up trouble. A tried and true method.



toggletoggle post by Conservationist  at Jun 22,2009 11:09am



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Jun 22,2009 11:12am
oops, that's right right one.
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread474894/pg1 http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread474894/pg1



toggletoggle post by reimroc at Jun 22,2009 11:34am
Theres no doubt in my mind that the election was rigged. The people of Iran wouldn't just start rioting for no reason.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Jun 22,2009 11:42am
If this is indeed true, can you imagine the chaos that would ensue when it is proven we help fund/cause the rigged election and riots?
Not sure if any of you guys have seen Zeitgeist II, but this is a perfect example of what the "economic hitmen" would do. I would NOT be surprised if somebody gets assassuinated during this stint.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Jun 22,2009 11:47am
and the fact that the mass-media is exploiting this whole thing..
to make it simple: we're only interested in any oil Iran has. so whoever favors american involvment with Iranian oil will win this battle.



toggletoggle post by FuckIsMySignature at Jun 22,2009 11:48am
protest = terrorism



toggletoggle post by MikeofDecrepitude at Jun 22,2009 11:53am
Persist for resistance
Resist their insolence
You are a dissident
Burn away conformity



toggletoggle post by BlackoutRick at Jun 22,2009 11:57am
self biased resistor



toggletoggle post by pam   at Jun 22,2009 12:04pm
They're not "rioting", they're protesting...peacefully. The "rioting" stories are from the Iranian news sources still allowed to broadcast. Wonder why they're still allowed to broadcast?

The stories leaking through the internet shut-downs tell a very different tale. One particularly amazing one was how the riot police busted into a dorm room full of SLEEPING WOMEN (rioters according to the news) and beat them all within an inch of their life, stopping only to destroy their books.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jun 22,2009 12:11pm
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[Jun 22,2009 11:07am - MikeofDecrepitude]
The CIA sure loves their proxy groups, to stir up trouble. A tried and true method.


tried and true... fail... just as osama.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Jun 22,2009 12:14pm
Pamarino,
the more the Iranian authority uses violence, the more the protestors will use violence. Throwing rocks at the police doesn't count as "peacefully" anymore. Looking past the mass-media and watching the videos that leaked out on the internet, I think it's safe to assume it's not a peaceful protest anymore.



toggletoggle post by MikeofDecrepitude at Jun 22,2009 12:15pm
Really? They supplied arms to the Mujaheddin faction to fight against the Soviet invasion, which was a success for them. Unless you're one of those die-hard U.S. fanatics that subscribes to occam's razor and doesn't think the U.S. had any involvement in the bombing of the twin towers, and used their one time allies as perfect scapegoats, well, I guess they did fail.



toggletoggle post by pam   at Jun 22,2009 12:15pm
Um, I am not getting news from mass media, sweet heart. And when you FIGHT BACK against violence with violence, it is not a fucking riot.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Jun 22,2009 12:20pm
All I'm saying sweet fart, is the initial concept was to be a peaceful protest but it seems now that it is learning more and more towards a riot. This is going to last a long time... that is, unless someone gets assassinated or whathaveyou. I think we're witnessing the end of Iran's current form of government.
They are not only going against the "law" but also defying a word of allah, which is a big no-no in the Arabic world. It's mostly the young Iranian crowd that is participating in this.
It's western influence blending with Eastern influence. It's only going to get worse



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jun 22,2009 12:31pm
RIOT IN THE STREETS



toggletoggle post by MikeofDecrepitude at Jun 22,2009 12:33pm
RIOT OF VIOLENCE



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jun 22,2009 12:38pm
you trumped my vague circle jerks reference (wild in the streets) with a kreator reference. well played.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jun 22,2009 12:38pm
BTW: did you see that I found the winterthrone track ashes?



toggletoggle post by MikeofDecrepitude at Jun 22,2009 12:39pm
RIOT FIGHT!

(trumping both circle jerks and kreator with a track from the Beastie Boys demo when they played hc and had female drummer who could blast!)



toggletoggle post by MikeofDecrepitude at Jun 22,2009 12:40pm
NO! do tell!



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jun 22,2009 12:40pm
I have it on my back up server at home.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Jun 22,2009 12:41pm
QUIET RIOT

trump'd.



toggletoggle post by MikeofDecrepitude at Jun 22,2009 12:42pm
Send me those tracks, aaron.



toggletoggle post by Yeti at Jun 22,2009 12:48pm
we are standing on the edge of one of the biggest political disasters since the collapse of the USSR. the next few weeks are going to be interesting. very interesting indeed.



toggletoggle post by pam   at Jun 22,2009 12:48pm
arilliusbm said[orig][quote]
All I'm saying sweet fart, is the initial concept was to be a peaceful protest but it seems now that it is learning more and more towards a riot. This is going to last a long time... that is, unless someone gets assassinated or whathaveyou. I think we're witnessing the end of Iran's current form of government.
They are not only going against the "law" but also defying a word of allah, which is a big no-no in the Arabic world. It's mostly the young Iranian crowd that is participating in this.
It's western influence blending with Eastern influence. It's only going to get worse


Um...good for them. I hope they slaughter the whole corrupt government and start over.

And again, the people standing up for themselves being called "a riot" undermines their bravery and smacks of, dare I say, "mainstream media bullshit".



toggletoggle post by pam   at Jun 22,2009 12:49pm
Yeti said[orig][quote]
we are standing on the edge of one of the biggest political disasters since the collapse of the USSR. the next few weeks are going to be interesting. very interesting indeed.


Disaster?



toggletoggle post by Yeti at Jun 22,2009 12:52pm
fair enough. upheaval.



toggletoggle post by pam   at Jun 22,2009 12:56pm
Gotcha. I'm just failing to see why this is a bad thing. Is it going to be bloody and awful and probably end up a pain in the US ass? Probably. But these people tossing the "law" and allah supposedly aside to take back their government is amazing. Calling them rioters seems manipulative to me.



toggletoggle post by reimroc at Jun 22,2009 1:09pm
did i just see rev making a smiths reference?



toggletoggle post by MikeofDecrepitude at Jun 22,2009 1:10pm
Allah is my fuckin nigger



toggletoggle post by xitsdoomsdayx at Jun 22,2009 1:12pm
i wouldnt dought it



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Jun 22,2009 1:33pm
US backed this 100% - Obama didn't say jack squat on the matter until days after everything started; and he still hasn't really said much about it other than "the whole world is watching."
It's because the CIA runs the show, folks.



toggletoggle post by xitsdoomsdayx at Jun 22,2009 1:34pm
CIA needs to go KABOOM



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Jun 22,2009 1:35pm
^^haha kind of dangerous statement to say



toggletoggle post by xitsdoomsdayx at Jun 22,2009 1:38pm
heh



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jun 22,2009 1:39pm
I hate the smiths.



toggletoggle post by FuckIsMySignature at Jun 22,2009 1:54pm edited Jun 22,2009 1:59pm
xitsdoomsdayx said[orig][quote]
i wouldnt dought it


"doubt" - not trying to be an asshole, only for your future knowledge.



toggletoggle post by reimroc at Jun 22,2009 1:58pm
the_reverend said[orig][quote]
I hate the smiths.


Well now I know. LEarn something new everyday.



toggletoggle post by Dankill at Jun 22,2009 2:12pm
If the Iranian Theocracy falls, It will be very interesting to see what happens to their proxies (i.e. Hezbollah, Hamas, Syria, Muqtada al-Sadr and his milita in Iraq). They depend A LOT on Iranian money, weapons and advisement



toggletoggle post by goatcatalyst   at Jun 22,2009 3:40pm
FUCK THE MIDDLE EAST




toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Jun 22,2009 3:41pm
billy milano for president



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Jun 23,2009 1:16pm
Obama's response today:

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/06/23/obama.news.conference/index.html

"Obama also blasted allegations of some in the Iranian government that the United States is "instigating protests" as "patently false and absurd."

The accusations "are an obvious attempt to distract people from what is truly taking place within Iran's borders," Obama said.

"This tired strategy of using old tensions to scapegoat other countries won't work anymore in Iran. This is not about the United States and the West; this is about the people of Iran and the future that they -- and only they -- will choose."



Couldn't disagree with you more, buddy.



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Jun 23,2009 1:54pm
A friend of mine got back from Iraq recently. I asked him what the people were like. He told me that Iraqis are the laziest people on the planet, and as much as they hate the way things used to be, they don't want to do anything to help themselves.

So the CIA threw around a bunch of money to get Iranians fired up about their election being blatantly rigged? No huge surprise.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Jun 23,2009 2:08pm
CIA has more power and influence than the president.
Then even beyond the CIA there are black ops programs that the mass of the government isn't classified to know.
It's really complex, and honestly unfair.



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Jun 23,2009 2:19pm
The CIA: Private and not accepting friend requests since 1947



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Jun 23,2009 2:27pm
I heard the CIA has an official facebook page.



toggletoggle post by darkwor  at Jun 23,2009 2:28pm
xmikex said[orig][quote]
A friend of mine got back from Iraq recently. I asked him what the people were like. He told me that Iraqis are the laziest people on the planet, and as much as they hate the way things used to be, they don't want to do anything to help themselves.

So the CIA threw around a bunch of money to get Iranians fired up about their election being blatantly rigged? No huge surprise.


This seems the consensus, blatant or otherwise, of many first hand accounts of Iraq I've read.

And if the CIA is involved in political unrest in the Middle East? Fuck yeah, keep it going. There is only good that can come out of unrest in Iran - those in power must step carefully or the world will look at them as they do North Korea.



toggletoggle post by darkwor  at Jun 23,2009 2:28pm
Just don't destroy the museums.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Jun 23,2009 2:32pm
but you have to understand that this political unrest is ultimately related to the hegemonic state of America. We're expanding our empire by squeezing through the cracks and destroying other countries within. They end up taking the bait, we move our big corporations in, use their oil and make dough. It's an alternative way to take over a country without using military force.
We're going to try to do it to every country we can; maybe then people will start to accept the NWO theories as truth.



toggletoggle post by darkwor  at Jun 23,2009 3:00pm
The Middle East sold their soul to the westernizing demons long ago. Look at Dubai - the worst example of "westernization" and excess in the entire world, and look where it is. Islam leaders preach from their mouths and collect money with their hands. Iranians delivered a huge blow to the credibility of conservative Islam in government. This needed to happen, period. This has nothing to do with corporations (of which the Middle East has many, they do not need our help with that), but people being fed up with their broken government. If the CIA had anything to do with it or not, it would have happened. (I didn't read the article, sources matter to me)

I don't buy into any NWO bullshit (I'm not really a 'conspiracy theorist' in general, call me biased) - the auto industry is proof that governments have power but don't know what to do with it. It falls on the fallibility of the indivudual.

The world is indeed watching Tehran. Just like they watch us. I think this is a critical time for Iran, a modern French revolution, and they need to follow through.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Jun 23,2009 3:07pm
No doubt this was bound to happen. I heard a stat that over 65% of Iranians today are 35 or below. It's like an "out with the old, in with the new" type situation. The people want to be free, regardless if we meddled in their affairs (which we did).
There is no better current example of a "revolution" than what quite possibly might happen to Iran within the next couple weeks, months, etc. You know social and political unrest will be widespread if they remain as they were.
And about the NWO - its idea has never been confirmed (after all, it's a conspiracy theory) but the whole concept of it makes complete sense, and I think it was the elite bankers - the true elite - really want to happen at some point. Either way you look at it, years from now when we focus more time and energy into space exploration, the NWO is bound to happen at some point. It only makes sense..



toggletoggle post by darkwor  at Jun 23,2009 3:12pm



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