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returntothepit >> discuss >> Schecter black Cherry Hellraiser by metal in the blood on May 11,2009 8:22pm
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toggletoggle post by metal in the blood at May 11,2009 8:22pm
Just got me one of these things. I love it. Emg's, original floyd and amazingly fast neck. Anyone got one of these or try one?



toggletoggle post by joeyumbrella  at May 11,2009 10:16pm
those are really nice, and play awesome. will never own on the other hand....



toggletoggle post by niccolai   at May 11,2009 10:51pm
When I was looking for one a while back, I opted for the Ltd mh400nt. I liked the electronic layout and inlays better. same neck profile, woods, factory, etc



toggletoggle post by BlackoutRick at May 12,2009 9:43am
We use a black 7 string Hellraiser.



toggletoggle post by the_taste_of_cigarettes  at May 12,2009 10:23am
Schecters suck balls. So freaking dense you could hammer nails with them. I swear people just buy them cause they are cheap.



toggletoggle post by the_taste_of_cigarettes  at May 12,2009 10:23am
Plus I remember when they were sold as "beginner" guitars. How they have become mainstream I have no idea. Same with First Act.



toggletoggle post by brian_dc  at May 12,2009 10:26am edited May 12,2009 10:26am
well, First Act makes some mean custom guitars. Weird business model. Only making $70 shopping mall guitars and $2000 customs.



toggletoggle post by the_taste_of_cigarettes  at May 12,2009 10:27am
Tell me about it. I've seen First Act in both Walgreens and Bed,Bath,and Beyond.



toggletoggle post by the_taste_of_cigarettes  at May 12,2009 10:27am
Plus the First Act that Kurt Ballou has sounds kinda weird...I recognize the tone but it reminds me of this old Univox I had once.



toggletoggle post by brian_dc  at May 12,2009 10:29am
Yeah, I've never been enticed to get one.



toggletoggle post by joeyumbrella  at May 12,2009 10:57am
ever notice alot of opening bands play schecters through line 6 amps?



toggletoggle post by brian_dc  at May 12,2009 11:14am
xWhyShopAnywhereOtherThanGuitarCenterx



toggletoggle post by joeyumbrella  at May 12,2009 11:24am
i stick to parking lots and building 19. I swear I am telling the truth. like promise



toggletoggle post by sinistas   at May 12,2009 11:33am
Schecter does well because they're good for the price range. Same with Line 6. Better than years ago when people would be playing Ibanez through Crate.



toggletoggle post by joeyumbrella  at May 12,2009 11:36am
sinistas said[orig][quote]
Better than years ago when people would be playing Ibanez through Crate.


O RLY?



toggletoggle post by reimroc at May 12,2009 11:51am
i would hate being a guitarist/bassist. way more things to take into consideration than drums.



toggletoggle post by sinistas   at May 12,2009 11:52am
Well, let me rephrase. Through the Crate GX/GFX series. The low/mid-range stuff that's out today is miles better than 10 years ago.



toggletoggle post by joeyumbrella  at May 12,2009 12:06pm
I honestly believe its the player... I have had terrible equipment and made it work. but now my taste is finer...



toggletoggle post by largefreakatzero at May 12,2009 12:07pm
Yeah? Well I've had great equipment and made it terrible.



toggletoggle post by joeyumbrella  at May 12,2009 12:08pm
haha I have done that as well...



toggletoggle post by sinistas   at May 12,2009 12:59pm
Obviously the skill of the person playing makes a huge difference, but I think the instruments available at certain price levels are better these days. Sadly, I think the pricier instruments are worse.



toggletoggle post by niccolai   at May 12,2009 8:24pm edited May 12,2009 8:27pm
the_taste_of_cigarettes said[orig][quote]
Plus I remember when they were sold as "beginner" guitars. How they have become mainstream I have no idea. Same with First Act.


Schecter guitar research started out selling replacement parts to gibson, and then was a full high end custom shop.

every guitar company in the world practically has made shitty mass produced guitars (BC Rich's Bronze series, gibson's epiphone, and basically every guitar fender has ever made under any name ever). but it doesn't say a thing about the quality of thier other stuff really.


schecters imports are built in a samick factory in korea and owned by the comppany that owns ESP, which are built in the same factory.

and the same is true of pretty much every guitar that's made in korea... jackson, BCR, ESP, etc, etc

So if you're knocking schecter's quality, you played one of the shittiest low end guitars they make, which are on par with all the other shitty low end guitars everyone else makes.



toggletoggle post by brian_dc  at May 12,2009 8:34pm
saying every Fender is shit is incredibly biased.

Tele's get some of the best sounds I've ever heard, period.



toggletoggle post by BlackoutRick at May 12,2009 8:43pm
agree with last two posts.



toggletoggle post by niccolai   at May 12,2009 8:57pm edited May 12,2009 9:06pm
brian_dc said[orig][quote]
saying every Fender is shit is incredibly biased.

Tele's get some of the best sounds I've ever heard, period.



I said that to be punk rawk.


Only fenders I've ever liked have been built outside of fender factories, and by non-fender luthiers.


Other then that, the only fenders I really like are... well.. jacksons. and fender is driving Jackson into the ground IMO.



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