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returntothepit >> discuss >> BASS NERD THREAD by DestroyYouAlot on Mar 11,2009 2:02pm
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toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Mar 11,2009 2:02pm
OH HAI DERE

You know who you are. Let's nerd it up and talk low-end nonsense. TREBLE GUITAR PLAYERS FUCK OFF PLZ TEE HEE

Ok, I start. Right-hand technique, gais: 321 or 123? Or 4321, and BTW fuck you 'cause I still suck at right-hand pinky picking?

(I'm considering trying to play some "123" patterns just to get my dexterity up and to avoid getting my fingers too locked in to one pattern.)

(Oh, and if this somehow isn't obvious, 1=index, 4=pinky.)




toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Mar 11,2009 2:05pm
i'm a lefty



toggletoggle post by Blue  at Mar 11,2009 2:06pm
321 FTW



toggletoggle post by Martins   at Mar 11,2009 2:08pm
246810 ftw



toggletoggle post by IllinoisEnemaBradness at Mar 11,2009 2:09pm
whatever's comfortable. james Jamerson used his right index finger and that's it. It was nicknamed the hook,He was a Motown session bassist, but you knew that cuz yer a bass nerd. I use index and middle mostly on my Mann p-bass copy



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Mar 11,2009 2:13pm
I know of what you speak, El Brado Blanco. I actually need to work on not always defaulting to my ring finger on the "1".



toggletoggle post by Blue  at Mar 11,2009 2:16pm
Did he use that lone finger for fast blasty stuff? I know i have trouble going hook style when doing origin songs lulz.



toggletoggle post by thuringwethil at Mar 11,2009 2:34pm
I use a pick.



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Mar 11,2009 2:37pm
HERETIC



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Mar 11,2009 2:38pm
LOL - I played with a pick exclusively for over ten years.



toggletoggle post by thuringwethil at Mar 11,2009 2:40pm
bass is the shiz-nice. I'm so over guitar.

list yer gear, Steve! Geek it up!



toggletoggle post by Czarnobóg at Mar 11,2009 2:51pm
I've only ever played bass in thrashy punk or thrashy BM bands. All I know is buzzsaw picking. I've never even tried to play with my fingers.



toggletoggle post by narkybark   at Mar 11,2009 2:58pm
definitely R321



toggletoggle post by C.DEAD at Mar 11,2009 2:59pm
I like to finger my bass. For fast picking I turn my index into a pick however. I keep the nail a little long for that reason.



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Mar 11,2009 3:39pm
At this point I'm faster with my fingers than I ever was with a pick, but I have been doing a lot of sharp chord strumming with the back edge of my nail. Tough to keep it even, volume-wise, but I'm getting to really like the sound.



toggletoggle post by FuckIsMySignature at Mar 11,2009 4:25pm
just gettin my callouses back from playin in my classic rock band. new strings are also awesomely awesome



toggletoggle post by badsneakers at Mar 11,2009 5:48pm
I have always been a finger player..I suck at using a pick and up until this February I had never considered doing it. But with the new band sans guitar I wanted that pick sound and its proving to be tougher then I thought.

blahh..




toggletoggle post by thuringwethil at Mar 11,2009 6:06pm



toggletoggle post by metalguy_2 at Mar 11,2009 6:53pm
The best way the three finger technique was ever explained was to start on the 1 finger and then start playing with the third and second finger.

The finger that accents the one changes over and over so it can get confusing.

It would look like this...
1321
3213
2132




toggletoggle post by deathfiend sli sli sli at Mar 11,2009 6:54pm
weird, i never got the three finger thing, i just use index and middle and alternate them really fast



toggletoggle post by Blender_Method  at Mar 11,2009 6:56pm
1 finger: depends on whats going on
2 finger: 12
3 finger: 123
4 finger: 1234



toggletoggle post by Finger Fuck at Mar 11,2009 7:04pm
Triplets and quad fingers...



toggletoggle post by Blender_Method  at Mar 11,2009 7:15pm edited Mar 11,2009 7:16pm
oh, and I forgot about the victor wooten double thumbing technique. I do this for a lot of fast parts. Definitely cant do the double pluck though.




bennyhillifier



toggletoggle post by DrewBlood@Work at Mar 11,2009 8:06pm
hi, im victor wooten. my hair is a tarantula.



toggletoggle post by Blender_Method  at Mar 11,2009 8:26pm
DrewBlood@Work said[orig][quote]
hi, im victor wooten. my hair is a tarantula.


hahaha



toggletoggle post by Dave_Maggot   at Mar 11,2009 8:37pm
victor wooten is black?!?



toggletoggle post by MarkFuckingRichards  at Mar 11,2009 8:38pm
ELIOT BAYLESS IS BLACK?!?



toggletoggle post by Dave_Maggot   at Mar 11,2009 8:39pm
samuel l jackson is black?!?



toggletoggle post by Ilanuim at Mar 11,2009 9:06pm
DestroyYouAlot said[orig][quote]
At this point I'm faster with my fingers than I ever was with a pick, but I have been doing a lot of sharp chord strumming with the back edge of my nail. Tough to keep it even, volume-wise, but I'm getting to really like the sound.

How fast and do you use the thumb at all? Are all of your four digits up to spead?



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Mar 11,2009 10:38pm
Pretty fast, only when I'm hitting a thump I can't reach otherwise, and no.



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Mar 11,2009 10:54pm
thuringwethil said[orig][quote]
bass is the shiz-nice. I'm so over guitar.

list yer gear, Steve! Geek it up!


FRUM UDDER FRED:

LTD B155 > TECH21 SANSAMP BASS DRIVER DI > AMPEG SVT3 PRO > AMPEG CLASSIC 15" / POC CARVIN CRAPCAB 15"



toggletoggle post by Beorht-Dana  at Mar 12,2009 12:50am
When I do play with my fingers, I use the Steve Digiorgio method:

1-2-3-2-1-2-3-2-1-etc

Most of the time I play with a pick though. My fingers suck at playing fast.

Basses: Spector Euro 5-string, Carvin XB-75 fretless
Boss Bass Chorus
Ampeg b2-r amp
Alesis 3630 compressor (piece of garbage, need to get rid of this)
Ampeg 4x10" cab



toggletoggle post by TheGreatSpaldino   at Mar 12,2009 1:02am
soup /b/!111 bassfag here.... i mean...


it all depends on what i am playing but i'm usually a 321 guy. i do a lot of 1 and 2 too. on really fast parts i do 3212321232etc pattern. when i try to play Bleed by Meshuggah i have to do a 321123321123 up and down stroking pattern. shit sucks. i do a little slap, but i suck at it, and dont have much of a need to do any real slap bass so it doesnt matter.

my gear sucks

Squier vintage modified jbass (upgraded active preamp) > 80's Randall guitar head > some 700 watt 4x10 peavey cab.



toggletoggle post by metalguy_2 at Mar 12,2009 1:06am
Beorht-Dana said[orig][quote]
When I do play with my fingers, I use the Steve Digiorgio method:

1-2-3-2-1-2-3-2-1-etc

Most of the time I play with a pick though. My fingers suck at playing fast.

Basses: Spector Euro 5-string, Carvin XB-75 fretless
Boss Bass Chorus
Ampeg b2-r amp
Alesis 3630 compressor (piece of garbage, need to get rid of this)
Ampeg 4x10" cab


not practical considering that one finger is doing most of the work



toggletoggle post by Beorht-Dana  at Mar 12,2009 11:18am
metalguy_2 said[orig][quote]
Beorht-Dana said[orig][quote]
When I do play with my fingers, I use the Steve Digiorgio method:

1-2-3-2-1-2-3-2-1-etc

Most of the time I play with a pick though. My fingers suck at playing fast.

Basses: Spector Euro 5-string, Carvin XB-75 fretless
Boss Bass Chorus
Ampeg b2-r amp
Alesis 3630 compressor (piece of garbage, need to get rid of this)
Ampeg 4x10" cab


not practical considering that one finger is doing most of the work


It is practical in the sense that your index finger is always on the down beat and you can therefor have a more consistent tonality. As someone said previously, James Jamerson only used ONE FINGER and he was a ridiculous player. Steve D plays 12321 so it can't be that bad.



toggletoggle post by badsneakers at Mar 12,2009 12:23pm
would like to hear more about and see peoples gear!!



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Mar 12,2009 12:45pm
Yeah, I don't think the 32123212 thing would work for me, but some pretty hot players use that technique (Steve "fuckin'" Di-G among them) so there must be something to it.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Mar 12,2009 12:50pm
herugrim could have used that, dude. :\'(



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Mar 12,2009 12:58pm
You guys'll find somebody, dude. (Specifically "someone who can get along with everybody in the band.")



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Mar 12,2009 1:04pm
YEAH! LET'S TALK SOME FUCKIN BASS!



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Mar 12,2009 1:07pm
SML MTH ONLY, LRG MTH IS DILDOS



toggletoggle post by IllinoisEnemaBradness at Mar 12,2009 1:27pm
this thread inspired me to breakout ICED EARTH'S Horror Show, thanks Thteve!



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Mar 12,2009 2:28pm
Brad, it took a year or 7, but I'm now completely obsessed with that Control Denied record you turned me on to, for exactly the same reason.



toggletoggle post by TheGreatSpaldino   at Mar 12,2009 3:53pm
DestroyYouAlot said[orig][quote]
Yeah, I don't think the 32123212 thing would work for me, but some pretty hot players use that technique (Steve "fuckin'" Di-G among them) so there must be something to it.



steve uses only two fingers.



toggletoggle post by TheGreatSpaldino   at Mar 12,2009 3:58pm

bennyhillifier


check at 1:57



toggletoggle post by at Mar 12,2009 4:47pm
dean custom zone bass
ampeg svt350h head
gallien krueger goldline 8x10 cab (not super happy with this guy)
tech 21 sans amp



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Mar 12,2009 4:54pm
SANSAMP FTW



toggletoggle post by dontlivefastjustdie at Mar 12,2009 5:05pm
DestroyYouAlot said[orig][quote]
SANSAMP FTW

qft



toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Mar 12,2009 5:07pm
TheGreatSpaldino said[orig][quote]
DestroyYouAlot said[orig][quote]
Yeah, I don't think the 32123212 thing would work for me, but some pretty hot players use that technique (Steve "fuckin'" Di-G among them) so there must be something to it.



steve uses only two fingers.


TheGreatSpaldino said[orig][quote]

bennyhillifier


check at 1:57


they were talking about steve digiorgio, not steve harris. either way, both are awesome players.



toggletoggle post by TheGreatSpaldino   at Mar 12,2009 5:25pm
SHIT... didnt notice that... im so fucked up on meds it isnt even funny



toggletoggle post by KPANZER at Mar 12,2009 5:33pm
I use MOTORHEAD t-shirts and a little yellow pedal with two knobs.



toggletoggle post by IllinoisEnemaBradness at Mar 12,2009 11:01pm
DestroyYouAlot said[orig][quote]
Brad, it took a year or 7, but I'm now completely obsessed with that Control Denied record you turned me on to, for exactly the same reason.


*high five*



toggletoggle post by Beorht-Dana  at Mar 12,2009 11:56pm
For anyone who's interested here is a link to a brief article Steve DiGiorgio wrote about his playing style. Nothing super profound, but interesting for bass nerds probably. ;)

http://www.insaneguitar.com/mc/FingerStyleBass101.pdf



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Mar 13,2009 12:04am
KPANZER said[orig][quote]
I use MOTORHEAD t-shirts and a little yellow pedal with two knobs.


I want to get endorsed by Motorhead t-shirts. That would fucking rule.



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Mar 13,2009 12:05am
IllinoisEnemaBradness said[orig][quote]
DestroyYouAlot said[orig][quote]
Brad, it took a year or 7, but I'm now completely obsessed with that Control Denied record you turned me on to, for exactly the same reason.


*high five*


Hahaha - I just turned my drummer onto it and he's hooked too. Total rhythm section porn.



toggletoggle post by Murph  at Mar 13,2009 12:28am
DestroyYouAlot said[orig][quote]
IllinoisEnemaBradness said[orig][quote]
DestroyYouAlot said[orig][quote]
Brad, it took a year or 7, but I'm now completely obsessed with that Control Denied record you turned me on to, for exactly the same reason.


*high five*


Hahaha - I just turned my drummer onto it and he's hooked too. Total rhythm section porn.


EXPECT THE UNEXPECTED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Mar 13,2009 12:58am
FUCKING EXACTLY. When that shit kicks in, and the bass, and the double bass, and OH SHIT NEW PANTS PLZ



toggletoggle post by Joshtruction   at Mar 13,2009 9:35am
fender bassman 300 pro/sunn 300t. Thats bass nerd stuff. yum.



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Mar 13,2009 9:41am
That sounds like a tasty shade of brown.



toggletoggle post by Slymo NLI at Mar 13,2009 10:35am
i was hanging out with this dude a few weeks ago.



toggletoggle post by Slymo NLI at Mar 13,2009 10:36am
victor wooten that is



toggletoggle post by Seth at Mar 13,2009 3:52pm
DestroyYouAlot said[orig][quote]
You guys'll find somebody, dude. (Specifically "someone who can get along with everybody in the band.")

if you mean me then, it was not getting along, it was compromising with what the band wanted and not what you just wanted. What was best for the band! Sorry if you were called out, but being in a band is compromise and working together! Giving and taking and not telling others you will and then dont!



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Mar 13,2009 3:56pm
LRN2BLST, PLZ



toggletoggle post by Seth at Mar 13,2009 7:00pm
I would if you could do sixteen notes without putting triplets in there and singing in key! Thanks you. Sorry if i use normal english!



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Mar 13,2009 10:29pm
This thread isn't about band drama or your hurt feelings. Start a new one and I'll respond and lay out all your bullshit for everyone to laugh at.



toggletoggle post by Seth at Mar 13,2009 11:23pm
Please keep believing my feelings are hurt. Sorry but you are mistaken for hurtness when I mentioned about a band. Then you had to take a shot at me about blasting!! so you started the drama. Go an read back before you say things. Thank you!



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Mar 14,2009 12:37am
Ok, other thread now. This should be fun.



toggletoggle post by Murph  at Mar 14,2009 11:44am
"You are teh one who is the bastert"



toggletoggle post by narkybark   at Mar 14,2009 12:44pm
IT IS YOU WHO ARE THE BALL LICKERS



toggletoggle post by KPANZER at Mar 14,2009 12:52pm
On a serious note, I am ashamed to admit the only gear I currently own is my bass.An entry level BC Rich Warlock.If you've seen me play live you can see why I'm not going to lay down alot of cash for something I use as a weapon.My amp/cab set-up of choice is the classic re-issue Ampeg SVT and the eight ten cab.I used to run two 8/10s.One on either side of the drums.Keep in mind I was competing against two full marshall stacks on either side.I play mainly with a pick, but I spent about 10 years playing strictly fingerstyle.I use an overdrive pedal insted of distortion.I try to go for a blend of Lemmy,Geezer Butler & Jon Entwistle.I also would cite Steve Harris,Duck Dunn, Berry Oakley and Allan Woody as major ispirations.But above all-CLIFF BURTON & GREG DELARIA



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Mar 14,2009 6:20pm
I've been trying to figure out, in essence, Lemmy's playing with fingerstyle. That's where the downward fingernail strumming thing came from - playing Ace of Spades with no pick. Ended up sounding cooler than I expected, so I've been developing it from there.



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at May 5,2010 12:02am
This thread needs to come back.

I just started playing my bass a) through the SansAmp, with b) the wet output through a shitty chorus, c) the dry output through a shitty guitar distortion, and d) the two sounds mixed into an A/B/Y pedal (wired backwards), into the front of my SVT. I'm still getting a lot of volume loss from the A/B (need to figure out a better signal loop solution) but turning up the SansAmp to compensate got me back into the "almost clipping" zone at the front of the amp. Sounds crazy, with the levels set right it "mwahs" like a fretless.



toggletoggle post by narkybark   at May 5,2010 1:47am
I have a really strange setup and it gives me a really strange sound but I dig it.



toggletoggle post by cobra slarship at May 5,2010 3:50am
i recently got my hands on a trace elliot v300h, its a hybrid tube/solid state head and i love the fucking thing. needs to be eq'd weird for the "klaus fluoride filling in for alex webster" sound i like, but once its there it sounds ballsy as hell.



toggletoggle post by blue  at May 5,2010 7:34am
Hahahaa cobra slarship

I think my next conquest in bass nerdland is to finally upgrade my hartke ha3500. I'm sick of making my sansamp do all the work, I want something that growls as hard as I want it to.



toggletoggle post by IllinoisEnemaBradness at May 5,2010 8:37am
cobra%20slarship said[orig][quote]
"klaus fluoride filling in for alex webster"


that sounds heavenly

I think if I were to start a band out here I would play bass, I have yet to see a band out here that has a bass player thats worth a shit.



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at May 5,2010 9:26am
IllinoisEnemaBradness said[orig][quote]
cobra%20slarship said[orig][quote]
"klaus fluoride filling in for alex webster"


that sounds heavenly


was thinkin the same thing, LOL



toggletoggle post by c.DeaD at May 5,2010 9:47am
I use the DOD death metal pedal for my bass. Thing is a fucking beast.



toggletoggle post by KPANZER at May 5,2010 10:47am
My poor B.C. Rich is a few days away from the grave after years of homnorable service to mankind.
My new baby is going to be an all black with black hardware Jazz Bass copy called 'The Scorpion'. oooooooooooohhh, ssssssssssscorpion!



toggletoggle post by KPANZER at May 5,2010 10:48am
that's right nigguh-HOMNORABLE



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at May 5,2010 10:53am
HOMONORABLE



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at May 5,2010 11:01am
Oh and Keith, I found that speaker cable, you guys are off the hook. LOL



toggletoggle post by KPANZER at May 5,2010 11:01am
DARKWOR shirt becomes my jizz rag in 3....2...1



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at May 5,2010 11:09am
Eric Tiwaz (Tyr) auditioning for Nile


bennyhillifier



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at May 5,2010 11:12am
KPANZER said[orig][quote]
DARKWOR shirt becomes my jizz rag in 3....2...1


Pfft - they come pre-jizzed, no worries sir.



toggletoggle post by KPANZER at May 5,2010 11:17am
I KNEW there was no such thing as crunchy sleeves! ;)



toggletoggle post by IllinoisEnemaBradness at May 5,2010 1:20pm
maybe it's just my crappy speakers, but I could barely hear the bass in that Nile audition video

oh and crunchy cleeves....EEEWWWW!



toggletoggle post by Jeff_met_aliens at May 5,2010 2:30pm
c'mon, no Muff's mentioned yet?

BassBigMuff into SVT 2-Pro/810.



toggletoggle post by dontlivefastjustdie at May 5,2010 2:39pm
those pedals are rad but too fuzzed out for what i'm playing. i use a bbe green screamer... shit is awesome.



toggletoggle post by cobra slarship at May 6,2010 5:20am
KPANZER said[orig][quote]
My poor B.C. Rich is a few days away from the grave after years of homnorable service to mankind.
My new baby is going to be an all black with black hardware Jazz Bass copy called 'The Scorpion'. oooooooooooohhh, ssssssssssscorpion!


keith, spend your money on a good cabinet instead, the warlock is still fixable...tho id be hard pressed to argue against the merits of a jazz jazz bass for few



toggletoggle post by obstaclecorpse at May 6,2010 10:11am
hail the bass big muff!

Im trading my 2x15 for a Peavey 3620 (2x10+2x18) today.... fucking STOKED



toggletoggle post by reimroc at May 6,2010 10:14am
WE ARE THE KEEPERS OF TIME FOR ALL ETERNITY. BOW FOR THOU TEMPO BE FOULED WITHOUT THE INQUISITIVE SOUND OF THE RHYTHM SECTION.



toggletoggle post by blue  at May 6,2010 10:20am
Bass big muff, bah. Only the big chrome NYC pedal is real. That's my numero uno choice for bass fuzz. That or a Z.Vex wooly mammoth.



toggletoggle post by bradness so totally at work at May 6,2010 5:55pm
obstaclecorpse said[orig][quote]
hail the bass big muff!

Im trading my 2x15 for a Peavey 3620 (2x10+2x18) today.... fucking STOKED


oooof, I hope they redesigned the handles, the one Nick Kevorkian had had the wrist breakers on it, thing SUCKED to carry up stairs



toggletoggle post by immortal13 at May 6,2010 6:57pm
I should probably get something for some bass fuzz. Sansamp pedal here I come.



toggletoggle post by neverpurified nli at May 6,2010 8:02pm
immortal13 said[orig][quote]
I should probably get something for some bass fuzz. Sansamp pedal here I come.


That wont really get you much fuzz, more like grit. For fuzz you want to go with the bass big muff, it lets you blend the clean and distorted signals, pretty rad



toggletoggle post by Alx_Casket  at May 9,2010 10:15pm



toggletoggle post by matt_sways_in_the_wind  at May 10,2010 2:45pm
finallly... the bass thread. my setup for ya's:
G&L L2000 tribute
MIM P-Bass modded with a seymour duncan quarter pound split pickup and hipshot brass vintage bridge
ibanez srx 390

next comes (in signal chain order):

digitech whammy
crybaby bass wah
bass muff
malasadas (made by dave martinka at B-Sharp music in pvd. get into it)
electro harmonix deluxe memory boy
radial effects looper out to the line6 bassPOD xt pro
morley a/b/y
a- goes to the boss ds-1 distortion modded at B-Sharp then into a fender bxr 200 1x18 combo with ds-1 running at all times for some dirt
b- goes to the peavey mark VI into the '72 ampeg 8x10




toggletoggle post by matt_sways_in_the_wind  at May 10,2010 2:49pm
on the subject of fuzz.

colorsound fuzz pedals are hands down the best bass fuzz pedals i've ever heard.

the tonebender and bass fuzz specifically



toggletoggle post by matt_sways_in_the_wind  at May 10,2010 2:55pm
sans amp...

sounds like a bass signal plugged into a rubber glove.

i used to use one all the time, until i realized i needed more mids in my life and considering the sans amp has fixed mids the only way i could get more mids was to lower the bass. who wants to pull out bass? needless to say i keep it around for that just in case moment.



toggletoggle post by brian_dc  at May 10,2010 3:01pm
just in case you want to sound like the kind of person who wears a condom to bed?



toggletoggle post by matt_sways_in_the_wind  at May 10,2010 3:16pm
just in case mast decides to play a show dressed up in giant condom suits and i want my bass sound to match my costume.



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at May 10,2010 3:57pm
matt_sways_in_the_wind said[orig][quote]
sans amp...

sounds like a bass signal plugged into a rubber glove.

i used to use one all the time, until i realized i needed more mids in my life and considering the sans amp has fixed mids the only way i could get more mids was to lower the bass. who wants to pull out bass? needless to say i keep it around for that just in case moment.


a) amp does that

b) scoop bass+treb, bump level

NO PROB, BRAH



toggletoggle post by TRUCK BALLS NLI at May 10,2010 4:02pm


TUG ON ME



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