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returntothepit >> discuss >> Clown car mom begging for donations by Conservationist on Feb 11,2009 6:49pm
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toggletoggle post by Conservationist  at Feb 11,2009 6:49pm
http://www.thenadyasulemanfamily.com/

* Kids are disabled
* Mom is single and unemployed
* She gets $793 per kid from the state

YOU KNOW WHAT TO DO



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Feb 11,2009 6:55pm
NOT HAVE FUCKING OCTUPLETS, MAYBE?

People are fucking worthless.



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Feb 11,2009 6:56pm


Caption: "Why am I alive?!? WTF!!!"



toggletoggle post by pam   at Feb 11,2009 7:16pm
The doctor that fucking chucked his Hippocratic oath to the curb and did this should be shot in the fucking head.



toggletoggle post by sweetypie at Feb 11,2009 7:24pm
i'll be glad when the economy collapses and all these fuckwads
with 12 kids sucking the welfare tit DIE. gross.



toggletoggle post by BobNOMAAMRooney at Feb 11,2009 7:25pm



toggletoggle post by dftg at Feb 11,2009 7:25pm
I hope those kids die.



toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Feb 11,2009 7:33pm
most hated woman in america right now. what a lunatic.



toggletoggle post by Dankill at Feb 11,2009 9:43pm
That woman has got to have DEEP seeded problems to be so stupid and irresponsible.
I saw an interesting op-ed in the globe today that raised a funny point of the whole public perception of this case.

The choice to have 8 babies
By Jeff Jacoby
Globe Columnist / February 11, 2009

THE BACKLASH against Nadya Suleman, the 33-year-old single mother of six who gave birth to octuplets on Jan. 26, has been fierce.
The reactions have ranged from reproach to ridicule to anger. On newspaper editorial pages, radio talk shows, and Internet comment boards, Suleman has been derided as a mental case or a mercenary or worse. There has been no outpouring of gifts from corporate America - nothing like the lifetime supply of Pampers that Procter & Gamble provided when the McCaughey septuplets were born in 1997, or the 15-passenger van Chevrolet donated to their parents. Indeed, one talk-show host warned that his listeners would boycott any company that provided assistance to Suleman and her "freakish" brood.

The fertility doctors who impregnated Suleman have come in for nearly as much abuse as she has. The Orlando Sentinel blasted both mother and doctors as "indulgent, irresponsible, and unethical." Reason magazine's science correspondent, Ronald Bailey, wasn't nearly so restrained; he slammed the "idiotic fertility jockey" who made it possible for this "loony sad jobless single woman" to bear eight more children. Columnist Ellen Goodman suggested that the doctors were guilty of something "akin to malpractice" and that Suleman's decisions were "close to mal-mothering." And there have been calls aplenty for stricter regulation of fertility clinics. "The real issue here," wrote the San Francisco Chronicle's Debra Saunders, "is that we live in a country with so few regulations on the human fertility business."

What does all this criticism mean? Is it once again acceptable in politically correct society to disparage other people's unconventional or unwise reproductive decisions? Have the rules of engagement suddenly changed?

It was only a couple of weeks ago, after all, that the 36th anniversary of Roe v. Wade was being commemorated with the customary paeans to the right of American women to make their own decisions about pregnancy and parenthood. Haven't we been told for years that society has no authority to second-guess what a woman does with her own body? Haven't the champions of "choice" and "reproductive freedom" repeatedly instructed us that what happens in a woman's womb is between her and her doctor? How is it that so many feel free to pass judgment on the choices made by Suleman and her doctors, let alone to call for new regulations banning such choices in the future?

It is easy to assert that Suleman's Beverly Hills fertility clinic should have refused her grotesque demand to be implanted with six embryos (two split and became twins), but it isn't clear that a court would have upheld such a refusal. The American Society of Reproductive Medicine recommends transferring no more than two fertilized embryos to a woman of Suleman's age, but when a patient insists on more, the physicians' hands may be tied. "Doctors' attorneys are advising them, 'You have to do it,' " ASRM spokesman Sean Tipton tells Time magazine. "The courts have made clear that decisions about what to do with embryos are in the hands of patients, not in the hands of physicians."

Last summer, the California Supreme Court ruled unanimously that a fertility specialist may not refuse, on religious grounds, to inseminate a lesbian. What would it say if Suleman's doctors had refused to impregnate a woman who already had six young children but no husband? Discrimination on the basis of marital status is illegal in California, too.

It may seem reasonable to argue that women are not designed to bear litters, or that society should not have to facilitate an unemployed woman's obsession for a "huge" family, or that it is wrong to purposely bring 14 fatherless children into the world.

Those are all sensible opinions, and a sensible public policy would reflect them. But in the name of autonomy and privacy, our public policies regarding families and reproduction have grown increasingly unmoored from good sense. From the campaign for homosexual marriage to the routine insemination of single women to the legality of abortion on demand, notions that would once have been thought outlandish have steadily been normalized.

Would that further industrial-scale pregnancies like Suleman's could be headed off with a new law or stepped-up regulation. But can law and regulation fill the void left when longstanding taboos and morals are cast aside? When society decides that families and child-rearing can be improvised at will, who gets to say what's "freakish"?




toggletoggle post by pam   at Feb 11,2009 10:58pm
Who the fuck wants laws passed against this? That article makes it sound like pro-lifers are gunning for 1 baby at a time legislation?

People are out after this woman because she is obviously sick in her head and the doctor put her and those babies at SERIOUS risk.

I don't care that she's single, and it initially annoyed me that if she were married this wouldn't be an issue (see those retard momos the Duggars and their 18 kids for proof of this), but I think the issue is WAY MORE that she a) put them at such risk and b) has no fucking job.



toggletoggle post by SkinSandwich at Feb 12,2009 7:50am edited Feb 12,2009 7:51am
DEEERRRRRR!!! What a shitbag this cunt is. Now on food stamps and shit. This pisses me off to no end. Look at this retard. Looks like she has the IQ of an engine block.




toggletoggle post by SkinSandwich at Feb 12,2009 7:55am
You can leave comments on her site. You all should slam this pig. Everyone here for the most part is a funny shit. I would dig reading the comments, haha.



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Feb 12,2009 8:26am
I'm setting up a benefit show to help this poor woman out. (Anybody know how much eight fourth-trimester abortions would run?)



toggletoggle post by SkinSandwich at Feb 12,2009 8:39am
Haha

Turns out this fucking cunt used state money to get plastic surgery. What a piece of cunty shit!

http://www.theinsider.com/news/1658099_Nad...an_Before_and_After_Plastic_Surgery



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Feb 12,2009 8:54am
and who paid for the fertility treatments? fuck her.



toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Feb 12,2009 9:05am
momos



toggletoggle post by Conservationist  at Feb 12,2009 9:30am
We need to repopulate the earth with smart people... not delusional idiots.

I think she's trying to disguise her Hispanic origins with the plastic surgery. Why? Is she racist against Mexicans?

http://news.lalate.com/2009/01/30/nadya-suleman-gutierrez/



toggletoggle post by goatcatalyst   at Feb 12,2009 9:53am


"Feed me."



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Feb 12,2009 9:59am
TEE HEE



toggletoggle post by orgymf@work at Feb 12,2009 10:08am
SkinSandwich said[orig][quote]
You can leave comments on her site. You all should slam this pig. Everyone here for the most part is a funny shit. I would dig reading the comments, haha.

you know, i left a comment there, but there doesn't seem to be an option to read other's comments (or see your own) on the page.

which is too bad, i'm sure there is some hysterical reading there



toggletoggle post by pam   at Feb 12,2009 10:22am
the_reverend said[orig][quote]
and who paid for the fertility treatments? fuck her.


This is what fucking annoys the shit out of me. There are plenty of couples that can't afford ONE IVF treatment and would be great parents and this cunt somehow manages to find a freak doctor to implant ALL her fucking eggs in her?? That's fair.

The donor is supposedly a friend of hers who she is now saying she hopes is involved with the kids. That poor son of a bitch. I hope he signed something.



toggletoggle post by orgymf@work at Feb 12,2009 10:32am
I REALLY HATE THIS WOMAN!
i just read an article stating that the government may get stcuk with the burden of paying for her children's needs, and it would cost the tax payers
1.3 MILLION FUCKING DOLLARS!
CUNTCUNTCUNTCUNTCUNTCUNTCUNTCUNTCUNT!!!!!!



toggletoggle post by zyklon at Feb 12,2009 10:47am
pam said[orig][quote]
The doctor that fucking chucked his Hippocratic oath to the curb and did this should be shot in the fucking head.


She should be shot first, what a dumb fucking bitch!



toggletoggle post by zyklon at Feb 12,2009 10:51am
A big share of the financial burden of raising Nadya Suleman's 14 children could fall on the shoulders of California's taxpayers, compounding the public furor in a state already billions of dollars in the red.

Even before the 33-year-old single, unemployed mother gave birth to octuplets last month, she had been caring for her six other children with the help of $490 a month in food stamps, plus Social Security disability payments for three of the youngsters. The public aid will almost certainly be increased with the new additions to her family.

Also, the hospital where the octuplets are expected to spend seven to 12 weeks has requested reimbursement from Medi-Cal, the state's Medicaid program, for care of the premature babies, according to the Los Angeles Times. The cost has not been disclosed.

Word of the public assistance has stoked the furor over Suleman's decision to have so many children by having embryos implanted in her womb.

"It appears that, in the case of the Suleman family, raising 14 children takes not simply a village but the combined resources of the county, state and federal governments," Los Angeles Times columnist Tim Rutten wrote in Wednesday's paper. He called Suleman's story "grotesque."

On the Internet, bloggers rained insults on Suleman, calling her an "idiot," criticizing her decision to have more children when she couldn't afford the ones she had and suggesting she be sterilized.

"It's my opinion that a woman's right to reproduce should be limited to a number which the parents can pay for," Charles Murray wrote in a letter to the Los Angeles Daily News. "Why should my wife and I, as taxpayers, pay child support for 14 Suleman kids?"

She was also berated on talk radio, where listeners accused her of manipulating the system and being an irresponsible mother.

"From the outside you can tell that this woman was playing the system," host Bryan Suits said on the "Kennedy and Suits" show on KFI-AM. "You're damn right the state should step in and seize the kids and adopt them out."

Suleman's spokesman, Mike Furtney, urged understanding.

"I would just ask people to consider her situation and she has been under a tremendous amount of pressure that no one could be prepared for," Furtney said.

Furtney said he, Suleman and her family had received death threats and had been getting messages that were "disgusting things that would never be proper to put in any story."

In her only media interviews, Suleman told NBC's "Today" she doesn't consider the public assistance she receives to be welfare and doesn't intend to remain on it for long.

Also, a Nadya Suleman Family Web Site has been set up to collect donations for the children. It features pictures of the mother and each octuplet and has instructions for making donations by check or credit card.

Suleman, whose six older children range in age from 2 to 7, said three of them receive disability payments. She told NBC one is autistic, another has attention deficit hyperactivity disorder, known as ADHD, and a third experienced a mild speech delay with "tiny characteristics of autism." She refused to say how much they get in payments.

In California, a low-income family can receive Social Security payments of up to $793 a month for each disabled child. Three children would amount to $2,379.

The Suleman octuplets' medical costs have not been disclosed, but in 2006, the average cost for a premature baby's hospital stay in California was $164,273, according to the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. Eight times that equals $1.3 million.

For a single mother, the cost of raising 14 children through age 17 ranges from $1.3 million to $2.7 million, according to the U.S. Department of Agriculture.

Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, who is struggling to close a $42 billion budget gap by cutting services, declined through a spokesman to comment on the taxpayer costs associated with the octuplets' delivery and care.

State Sen. Sam Aanestad, R-Grass Valley, an oral surgeon who sits on the Health Committee, said that once a state Medical Board investigation is complete, lawmakers could review issues from government oversight to standards in fertility treatment.

Suleman received disability payments for an on-the-job back injury during a riot at a state mental hospital, collecting more than $165,000 over nearly a decade before the benefits were discontinued last year.

Some of the disability money was spent on in vitro fertilizations, which was used for all 14 of her children, Suleman said. She said she also worked double shifts at the mental hospital and saved up for the treatments. She estimated that all her treatments cost $100,000.

Fourteen states, including California, require insurance companies to offer or provide coverage for infertility treatment, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures. But California has a law specifically excluding in vitro coverage. It's not clear what type of coverage Suleman has.

In the NBC interview, Suleman said she will go back to California State University, Fullerton in the fall to complete her master's degree in counseling, and will use student loans to support her children. She already owes $50,000 in student loans, she told NBC. She said she will rely on the school's daycare center and volunteers.



toggletoggle post by pam   at Feb 12,2009 11:17am
Should be paid for by the doctor.



toggletoggle post by pam   at Feb 12,2009 11:22am


Jesus christ.



toggletoggle post by W3 @ work at Feb 12,2009 11:31am
SHE'S A FUCKING ALIEN



toggletoggle post by SkinSandwich at Feb 12,2009 11:35am
Jeez she is a hideous monstrosity.



toggletoggle post by Lamp nli at Feb 12,2009 11:39am
How many kids would you have to be raising inside your womb at the same time before it bursts open completely?



toggletoggle post by Conservationist  at Feb 12,2009 11:44am edited Feb 12,2009 11:45am
pam said[orig][quote]
There are plenty of couples that can't afford ONE IVF treatment and would be great parents and this cunt somehow manages to find a freak doctor to implant ALL her fucking eggs in her?


Or maybe:

No one should do IVF. Let nature do her work.

And maybe:

I want to live in a civilization where people like Nadya Suleman Gutierrez are not coddled.



toggletoggle post by Yeti at Feb 12,2009 12:51pm
i absolutely agree.



toggletoggle post by orgymf@work at Feb 12,2009 1:47pm
a stutter and adhd?????
that's why her kids are getting social security!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

i hope this cunt gets hit by a train



toggletoggle post by Yeti at Feb 12,2009 3:20pm
hahahaha i can picture her kids sounding like Bart after he takes the first sip of the all syrup Super Squishee.



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Feb 12,2009 3:25pm
I fucking guarantee you this bitch is loving all the attention she's getting from this.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Feb 12,2009 4:07pm
that's why her first move was to get an agent.



toggletoggle post by deathchick   at Feb 12,2009 4:42pm
zyklon said[orig][quote]
pam said[orig][quote]
The doctor that fucking chucked his Hippocratic oath to the curb and did this should be shot in the fucking head.


She should be shot first, what a dumb fucking bitch!


seconded



toggletoggle post by SkinSandwich at Feb 12,2009 5:05pm
EVERY FUCKING CHILD ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH HAS ADD OR ADHD. It is just made up shit for doctors and pharmacutical companies to make more coin. fuck off. Kids are always like that. They don't pay attention, they are hyper, and most of their parents suck ass.



toggletoggle post by Samantha at Feb 12,2009 5:54pm
pam said[orig][quote]


Jesus christ.


I wonder what her stomach looks like now with all of that extra skin flapping around.



toggletoggle post by Dankill at Feb 12,2009 7:56pm
SkinSandwich said[orig][quote]
EVERY FUCKING CHILD ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH HAS ADD OR ADHD. It is just made up shit for doctors and pharmacutical companies to make more coin. fuck off. Kids are always like that. They don't pay attention, they are hyper, and most of their parents suck ass.


FACT



toggletoggle post by Dankill at Feb 12,2009 8:04pm
pam said[orig][quote]
Who the fuck wants laws passed against this? That article makes it sound like pro-lifers are gunning for 1 baby at a time legislation?

People are out after this woman because she is obviously sick in her head and the doctor put her and those babies at SERIOUS risk.

I don't care that she's single, and it initially annoyed me that if she were married this wouldn't be an issue (see those retard momos the Duggars and their 18 kids for proof of this), but I think the issue is WAY MORE that she a) put them at such risk and b) has no fucking job.


I haven't heard about anyone screaming for child limit laws ala China, but I think it reminds people to never underestimate the power of fucked up people testing the limits of anything legal and controversal. Because aside from the doctor getting in trouble with his medical licence, it seems like everything she did is 100% legal. If you think about it, she did put those kids at serious risk medically but she has the right to do that apparently.

Yeah, the Mormon familes are just as goofy, but the only difference is that Duggar mother was never batshit crazy enough to impregnate herself with mulitiple babies all at once.




toggletoggle post by douchebag_patrol at Feb 13,2009 5:34am






toggletoggle post by MikeofdecrepitudE at Feb 13,2009 8:38am
Conservationist said[orig][quote]
We need to repopulate the earth with smart people... not delusional idiots.


As a hypothetical: Eradication of world's population, in order to rejuvenate the planet (and rid it of undesirables), seems like it would be high priority on a select elite's shadow agenda. I wouldn't expect anyone on RTTP, or the average citizen to be a part of the new Golden age. However, the technocrats and royal families may need ditch diggers, right?



If we get real lucky, he reclaims the world =)



toggletoggle post by W3 @ work at Feb 13,2009 8:44am
ah 2012 can't hurry up



toggletoggle post by MikeofdecrepitudE at Feb 13,2009 8:46am
Quetzalcoatl will return!



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Feb 13,2009 11:59am
Dankill said[orig][quote]
SkinSandwich said[orig][quote]
EVERY FUCKING CHILD ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH HAS ADD OR ADHD. It is just made up shit for doctors and pharmacutical companies to make more coin. fuck off. Kids are always like that. They don't pay attention, they are hyper, and most of their parents suck ass.


FACT


TOTALLY UNTRUE FACT BUT WHATEVER

Overmedicating doctors and lazy parents and/or teachers doesn't invalidate an actual condition, it just covers the real instances in an avalanche of trendy diagnosis and Adderal.



toggletoggle post by W3 @ work at Feb 13,2009 11:59am
but Adderal and whiskey are goodtimes



toggletoggle post by c.DeAD at Feb 13,2009 12:33pm
W3%20@%20work said[orig][quote]
but Adderal and whiskey are goodtimes


Backed. I am a child of these drugs and I don't have anything like ADHD, ADD, retardation, small penis, homsexuality, etc. These drugs are goooood times.

Now, I just need to fill my klonopin.



toggletoggle post by joeycobranli at Feb 13,2009 12:35pm
Samantha said[orig][quote]
pam said[orig][quote]


Jesus christ.


I wonder what her stomach looks like now with all of that extra skin flapping around.


something's wrong with me!



toggletoggle post by zyklon at Feb 13,2009 12:47pm
pam said[orig][quote]


Jesus christ.


What an ugly thing...



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