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returntothepit >> discuss >> US approves 1st stem cell study by zyklon on Jan 23,2009 10:53am
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toggletoggle post by zyklon at Jan 23,2009 10:53am
A U.S. biotech company says it plans to start this summer the world's first study of a treatment based on human embryonic stem cells — a long-awaited project aimed at spinal cord injury.

The company gained federal permission this week to inject eight to 10 patients with cells derived from embryonic cells, said Dr. Thomas Okarma, president and CEO of Geron Corp. of Menlo Park, Calif.

The patients will be paraplegics, who can use their arms but can't walk. They will receive a single injection within two weeks of their injury.

The study is aimed at testing the safety of the procedure, but doctors will also look for signs of improvement like return of sensation or movement in the legs, Okarma said.

Whatever its outcome, the study will mark a new chapter in the contentious history of embryonic stem cell research in the United States — a field where debate spilled out of the laboratory long ago and into national politics.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090123/ap_on_sc/sci_stem_cells



toggletoggle post by zyklon at Jan 23,2009 10:54am
This is something Bushy opposed



toggletoggle post by goatcatalyst   at Jan 23,2009 10:57am
I hope Christians are unhappy.



toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Jan 23,2009 10:59am
too late to save christopher reeve.



toggletoggle post by zyklon at Jan 23,2009 11:00am
goatcatalyst said[orig][quote]
I hope Christians are unhappy.


Oh they're gonna be crying like lil bitches



toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Jan 23,2009 11:04am
i hope the first person to get treated is a fag, so christians will be even more upset.



toggletoggle post by pam   at Jan 23,2009 11:18am
This is awesome. Eat a dick, Bush.



toggletoggle post by Conservationist  at Jan 23,2009 11:56am
zyklon said[orig][quote]
A U.S. biotech company says it plans to start this summer the world's first study of a treatment based on human embryonic stem cells — a long-awaited project aimed at spinal cord injury.


Good. I think we should also test therapies on prisoners, like the Nazis did, because it's one surefire way to get useful information without animal testing.



toggletoggle post by y_ddraig_goch  at Jan 23,2009 12:05pm
hahaha i loved obama's remark in his speech at iniggaration about this.
"finally we will restore science to it's rightful position"



toggletoggle post by largefreakatzero at Jan 23,2009 12:12pm



toggletoggle post by Conservationist  at Jan 23,2009 12:20pm
largefreakatzero said[orig][quote]


I hauled that out the other day. I miss the old days of Sepultura.



toggletoggle post by Yeti at Jan 23,2009 12:40pm
that's weird, i was listening to Arise yesterday thinking about how much i miss the old days of Sepultura.

y_ddraig_goch said[orig][quote]
hahaha i loved obama's remark in his speech at iniggaration about this.
"finally we will restore science to it's rightful position"


i was the only person in my company cafeteria who raised their fist and applauded.



toggletoggle post by Conservationist  at Jan 23,2009 1:49pm
It's the one promising aspect of this presidency, but as you know, saying something is true doesn't make it true. I anticipate that he's going to run screaming from other scientific developments, and quash some of our more promising technologies which will come from military R&D.

He's also dodging the big issues. People can still copyright genes. that's crazy talk my nillas



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Jan 23,2009 1:59pm
Can't wait to buy Stem Cell Crunchies at the corner store.



toggletoggle post by brian_dc  at Jan 23,2009 2:00pm
Conservationist said[orig][quote]
It's the one promising aspect of this presidency, but as you know, saying something is true doesn't make it true. I anticipate that he's going to run screaming from other scientific developments, and quash some of our more promising technologies which will come from military R&D.

He's also dodging the big issues. People can still copyright genes. that's crazy talk my nillas


still it's nice to see something positive done by government with regards to science.



toggletoggle post by Josh_Martin at Jan 23,2009 2:11pm
Yeti said[orig][quote]
that's weird, i was listening to Arise yesterday thinking about how much i miss the old days of Sepultura.

y_ddraig_goch said[orig][quote]
hahaha i loved obama's remark in his speech at iniggaration about this.
"finally we will restore science to it's rightful position"


i was the only person in my company cafeteria who raised their fist and applauded.


That Obama quote fucking rules. He's off to a good start at least.


I found my old Sepultura - Under Siege: Live in Barcelona VHS tape the other night. Live show from 1991. Man, that band used to be so good....

I saw the first US leg of the Arise tour, with Sacred Reich and Napalm Death opening. The pit during Sepultura was completely out of control. You don't see shit like that anymore. And then, during the most intense parts of the songs, they'd kill all the lights and turn on the strobe. Seeing some huge motherfucker coming at you in the pit with the strobe light going was awesome.

Then I saw them on the final leg of the Arise tour 18 months later when they were opening for Ministry and Helmet. That was at a place with seats so no pit but that was the last time Sepultura toured when they were still a killer fucking band.
Plus, the guy from Rigor Mortis was playing guitar for Ministry.






toggletoggle post by largefreakatzero at Jan 23,2009 2:15pm
Yeah, you have to wonder what turns a solid band like Sepultura in the early days into the utter faggotry it has become. Chaos AD was the turning point, but I think that album is still listenable and not that bad.

And that is good news about the stem cell research.



toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Jan 23,2009 2:17pm
sepultura used to rule. i need to put up my arise poster at my band's new practice space.



toggletoggle post by pam   at Jan 23,2009 2:29pm
this thread encompasses two critical issues

1- Stem cell research
2- Why the fuck does Sepultura suck ass now?



toggletoggle post by Conservationist  at Jan 23,2009 2:53pm edited Jan 23,2009 2:54pm
largefreakatzero said[orig][quote]
Yeah, you have to wonder what turns a solid band like Sepultura in the early days into the utter faggotry it has become.


Pandering to the crowd, instead of offering difficult music?

I mean, every idiot can understand "Chaos A.D." but "Arise" challenges them.



toggletoggle post by Yeti at Jan 23,2009 3:19pm
yeah to go from Schizophrenia to Roorback is just sad. sad, sad, sad.



toggletoggle post by Conservationist  at Jan 23,2009 4:29pm
I still love those first 3 releases. They're like blood.

Bestial Devastation/Morbid Visions is the all time favorite however



toggletoggle post by zyklon at Jan 23,2009 4:47pm
Sepultura started for me with Schizophrenia all the way to Roots



toggletoggle post by Dankill at Jan 23,2009 7:41pm
pam said[orig][quote]
This is awesome. Eat a dick, Bush.

Hey, something else we like.
Weeeeeeee technology!



toggletoggle post by Dankill at Jan 23,2009 7:44pm
BTW Under Seige: Live in Barcelona is one of my favorite live videos of all time.
QWhat I wouldn't give to have seen them back then just absolutely DOMINATE as a live band.



toggletoggle post by yummy at Jan 23,2009 8:23pm
pam said[orig][quote]
this thread encompasses two critical issues

1- Stem cell research
2- Why the fuck does Sepultura suck ass now?



The over-encompassing reality of these two issues has relevant substance in the boisterous laughter I experienced upon reading this Pamela.



toggletoggle post by yummy at Jan 23,2009 8:24pm
When I first saw the Live in Barcelona VHS I was pretty sure he had people chanting MASSIVE PENISES.
Great fuckin song.



toggletoggle post by thuringwethil at Jan 23,2009 8:49pm
ok look, guys. This is all as predictable along party lines, liberal vs. conservative, as predictable can be.

however, I am FUCKING PSYCHED about this administration so far.

Anything that ruffles the right wing / Christian tax leech / Bush-y fucks' feathers makes me spew whey from my nether region.

Perhaps that's the only joy I'll get out of it once the "liberals" sell me down the river for a swastika and pack of chewing gum, but hey, gimme my short term joy.

Gyad, this is SUCH a relief to AT LEAST hear covered in the news.



toggletoggle post by Hoser at Jan 23,2009 8:53pm
largefreakatzero said[orig][quote]


Zyklon wasn't even a smile on his daddy's face when this came out.



toggletoggle post by yummy at Jan 23,2009 10:13pm
Hoser said[orig][quote]
largefreakatzero said[orig][quote]


Zyklon wasn't even a smile on his daddy's face when he came .



toggletoggle post by Conservationist  at Jan 23,2009 11:32pm
thuringwethil said[orig][quote]
Perhaps that's the only joy I'll get out of it once the "liberals" sell me down the river for a swastika and pack of chewing gum, but hey, gimme my short term joy.


Yet another reason why all people of Jewish descent should own weapons. The comments from the liberals who should know better are disturbing.




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