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returntothepit >> discuss >> Hipsters are destroying metal by Conservationist on Jan 14,2009 10:22am
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toggletoggle post by Conservationist  at Jan 14,2009 10:22am

Normal, healthy people pick music they want to listen to.

Hipsters pick music to make themselves look good.

A hipster is defined by this reversed cause/effect, and this is why they parallel our society: like people looking for political handouts, they are justifying themselves to others instead of acting as they know is right.

In metal, the hipster is the person always trying to be different, to pick music that is brainy or "authentic" (simple), the person spreading trends and fads. Instead of being an authentic fan who picks the music he or she thinks is best, the hipster is using the music as adornment to conceal their ordinariness.

What is a hipster


I'd like my grindcore without flute or divas, please.



toggletoggle post by MikeofDecrepitude at Jan 14,2009 10:34am
Who actually cares about these people? It's pretty fucking gay if you say you like music that you really don't, just to appear eccentric and ahead of the curve.



toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Jan 14,2009 10:37am
if you like eccentric and weird music, fine. i agree that people who choose to listen to a band because it makes them look different or cutting edge are pussies who should be fought hard.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Jan 14,2009 10:52am
Certain people just try to hard to stand out. One may notice this on an adventure through Park Street train station, the B Line Greenline route, and getting off in Allston. I go to band practice like that and that place is swarming with hipsters. Makes me want to puke.. even though some of the girls are attractive.



toggletoggle post by largefreakatzero at Jan 14,2009 11:00am
I fail to see how any male who wears girl pants is capable of destroying anything.



toggletoggle post by AndrewBastard at Jan 14,2009 11:15am
I think that article is spot on...

Welcome to Allston.



toggletoggle post by rbss at Jan 14,2009 11:16am
AndrewBastard said[orig][quote]
I think that article is spot on...

Welcome to Allston.


Hahaha yeah, partying in Allston is fun but the major downside is all the douchey and inane hipster conversations you have to listen to.



toggletoggle post by Hooker in sweatpants at Jan 14,2009 11:21am
How faggoty is this thread right now?



toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Jan 14,2009 11:30am
faggotier than a carrot



toggletoggle post by tylor  at Jan 14,2009 11:48am
"are you being sarcastic dude?"

"i don't even know anymore"



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Jan 14,2009 12:03pm
Allston: You Don't Have To Be Brazillian to Have Bed Bugs



toggletoggle post by pam   at Jan 14,2009 12:10pm
They don't ruin anything for me. Fuck em.



toggletoggle post by RichHorror  at Jan 14,2009 12:11pm
If you care about this topic you are a faggot.



toggletoggle post by AndrewBastard at Jan 14,2009 12:28pm
Whatever, you hipster lovers.



toggletoggle post by RichHorror  at Jan 14,2009 12:30pm
Also if you're a hipster you are a faggot.

Also if you have sexual relations with members of your own sex you are a faggot.



toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Jan 14,2009 12:31pm
i thought penises were for straight guys?



toggletoggle post by RichHorror  at Jan 14,2009 12:39pm
Also if you're a faggot you are a faggot.



toggletoggle post by aril at Jan 14,2009 12:42pm
what happens if you're a bundle of sticks or an english cigarette?



toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Jan 14,2009 12:43pm
FUCK A FAGGOT OR YOU ARE A FAGGOT



toggletoggle post by brian_dc  at Jan 14,2009 12:49pm
if both penises are straight, it's not faggot



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Jan 14,2009 1:02pm
RAVIOLIS IS RAVIOLIS



toggletoggle post by Mess at Jan 14,2009 1:15pm
i have one at my work. he wears girl jeans and is a "vegan". everytime i see him i want to slam him into a cubicle wall and he'll be all like "oh my! why'd you do that" and i'll be like "i don't know what he's talking about guys, he just threw himself into a fucking wall, maybe his pants were to tight and road up his vagina and he tripped. fucking fag ass



toggletoggle post by goatcatalyst   at Jan 14,2009 1:22pm
I think the decline of tape-trading culture (aka the internet) ruined metal.

You must send 2 IRCs to reply to this post



toggletoggle post by MikeofDecrepitude at Jan 14,2009 1:30pm
INTOLERANCE



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Jan 14,2009 1:31pm
Man, i'll never forget the moment Napster came out.



toggletoggle post by MikeofDecrepitude at Jan 14,2009 1:32pm edited Jan 14,2009 1:33pm
Yeah, Napster was like the Skynet for the music industry.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Jan 14,2009 1:33pm
Wow. That was almost 10 years ago. Or was it?



toggletoggle post by c.DeAD at Jan 14,2009 1:38pm
RichHorror said[orig][quote]
Also if you're a hipster you are a faggot.

Also if you have sexual relations with members of your own sex you are a faggot.



That was awesome.



toggletoggle post by aaron_michael  at Jan 14,2009 1:45pm
fight him or you are a faggot



toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Jan 14,2009 1:48pm
HAVE SEX WITH MEN OR YOU LIKE PUSSY



toggletoggle post by c.DeAD at Jan 14,2009 1:49pm
It's only gay if your balls hit his.



toggletoggle post by Seth at Jan 14,2009 4:09pm
That is why back in the day when they said to kill a poser(hair band fan) thye did, now a day, you cannot tell with jeans, hats, t shirtss etc...... Miss those days, when everyone was cut dry!



toggletoggle post by swamplorddvm  at Jan 14,2009 4:41pm
Agreed. BlackMEtal is getting it in the butt now.

Oooh BlackMetal is so funny and crazy. Let's start a BM band! I <3 Darkthrone!

(btw I'm not talking smack about Darkthrone at all there.)



toggletoggle post by My_Dying_Bride at Jan 14,2009 5:23pm
rttp is on a roll today.



toggletoggle post by mortalis  at Jan 14,2009 5:24pm


morbid saint, destroyer of hipsters



toggletoggle post by BobNOMAAMRooney at Jan 14,2009 5:28pm
swamplorddvm said[orig][quote]
Agreed. BlackMEtal is getting it in the butt now.

Oooh BlackMetal is so funny and crazy. Let's start a BM band! I <3 Darkthrone!

(btw I'm not talking smack about Darkthrone at all there.)


KRALLICE



toggletoggle post by BobNOMAAMRooney at Jan 14,2009 5:58pm edited Jan 14,2009 6:00pm
Yeah but on a positive note, everyone can stop being hipsters because MCDONALDS SELLS FUCKING LATTES NOW!

I don't have to wear this sweater!

I don't have to pretend I like black metal and attempt to smooth over the dissonance between my personal beliefs and those of the artists!

I don't even need to wear glasses!

I love football!

I no longer have to buy Sunn 0))) records and listen to an hour of feedback to show everyone how unique I am, more Katy Perry!

We don't have to call movies films anymore!

No more tickling your balls, I can actually enjoy eating pussy!

I totally want to eat like 15 Egg McMuffins to make up for my stupid veganism phase!

I don't have to buy a bunch of crap on vinyl and hide my iPod when friends come over!

When I want to have sex with girls I can do it with a bitch who looks half decent rather than some scenester slampig covered in Kurt Halsey tattoos!



toggletoggle post by quintessence  at Jan 14,2009 6:42pm
I'm sick of this as well. Providence is ripe with them.... Not so much girl pants, but beards, messenger bags, flannel vegans. FUCK OFF!!!!!!!!

Its generally hard to find smart *real* metal people around here. Makes me sad...



toggletoggle post by TheBloodening  at Jan 14,2009 6:45pm
thats it, i'm going to pretend to be a hipster...



toggletoggle post by goatcatalyst   at Jan 14,2009 6:48pm
Kill them or u are a pussy, Frank!!!



toggletoggle post by niccolai   at Jan 14,2009 6:58pm
You hear that Ryan Murphy? You are destroying metal.



toggletoggle post by swamplorddvm  at Jan 14,2009 7:10pm
I went to school with a ryan murphy.



toggletoggle post by swamplorddvm  at Jan 14,2009 7:12pm edited Jan 14,2009 7:13pm


Death is also another cool band.



toggletoggle post by BobNOMAAMRooney at Jan 14,2009 7:12pm
Only Castledoomerown is real



toggletoggle post by Pires at Jan 14,2009 7:30pm
niccolai said[orig][quote]
You hear that Ryan Murphy? You are destroying metal.


my sentiments EXACTLY.



toggletoggle post by Mess at Jan 14,2009 8:21pm
fuck that, Hitler made metal



toggletoggle post by ThirdKnuckle  at Jan 14,2009 10:01pm
our friend conservationist explained what a hipster is, but never explained how they are destroying metal. since hipsterism has probably been around about as long as pop culture has, i eagerly await the explanation of his original thesis.



toggletoggle post by BobNOMAAMRooney at Jan 14,2009 10:07pm







toggletoggle post by swamplorddvm  at Jan 14,2009 10:21pm
ThirdKnuckle said[orig][quote]
our friend conservationist explained what a hipster is, but never explained how they are destroying metal. since hipsterism has probably been around about as long as pop culture has, i eagerly await the explanation of his original thesis.


Maybe... Metal lives on because of the passion one has for it. Hipsters don't have passion for it, they only listen and start "metal" bands for reasons explained in that article. When the passion dies so does "True" Metal with it. But aslong as Metal is in our memories there will be at least one that truely loves Metal... You know?

Like a small island inhabited by natives. Then abunch of obnoxious yupies move in because of the cultural "charm" eventually driving out the less wealthy natives. The true culture of the island in nearly wiped out.



toggletoggle post by goatcatalyst   at Jan 14,2009 10:27pm
Thurston Moore likes Myhem



toggletoggle post by SW at Jan 14,2009 10:32pm
the hipsters will be driven back when more people that are true to themselves get off their asses and start more fucking bands instead of just complaining.



toggletoggle post by swamplorddvm  at Jan 14,2009 10:34pm
SW said[orig][quote]
the hipsters will be driven back when more people that are true to themselves get off their asses and start more fucking bands instead of just complaining.


Do solo projects count?



toggletoggle post by SW at Jan 14,2009 10:42pm
absolutely.DO IT!



toggletoggle post by SkinSandwich at Jan 14,2009 10:44pm



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Jan 15,2009 12:36am
BobNOMAAMRooney said[orig][quote]
Yeah but on a positive note, everyone can stop being hipsters because MCDONALDS SELLS FUCKING LATTES NOW!


HAHAHA



toggletoggle post by KEVORD  at Jan 15,2009 12:54am
That's when Manowar arrived to save the day.

Wimps and posers leave this hall.



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toggletoggle post by douchebag_patrol at Jan 15,2009 1:44am



toggletoggle post by MikeofDecrepitude at Jan 15,2009 7:40am
BobNOMAAMRooney said[orig][quote]


I no longer have to buy Sunn 0))) records and listen to an hour of feedback to show everyone how unique I am, more Katy Perry!



Yeah, I was never able to understand the Sunn O))) craze among art-fag kids. Last time I saw Sunn it was filled with kids I'd never expect at a show like that. I think within 20 minutes all of those kids were gone, and only about 15 people were watching them.



toggletoggle post by Yeti at Jan 15,2009 7:56am
RichHorror said[orig][quote]
If you care about this topic you are a faggot.



toggletoggle post by c.DeAD at Jan 15,2009 8:42am
goatcatalyst said[orig][quote]
Thurston Moore likes Myhem


hAHA, Thurston Moore loves Sewer Goddess. He gave one of our tapes a glowing review in some Boston magazine. I can't stand his stuff or Sonic Youth but it was a huge surprise.



toggletoggle post by septic at Jan 18,2009 4:07am
The worst thing about hipsters is when they wear certain metal clothing at a metal show only and not any other time!



toggletoggle post by darkwor  at Jan 18,2009 8:31am
my roommate's boyfriend is a full-on hipster, appeals to me by showing me his latest sunO)))))000)))) records and other metal he's been listening to lately (like Wolves In the Throne Room....), he keeps stacks of fucking Ingmar Bergman FILMS and other artsy shit on my heater in the living room and also has managed to log a full year's worth of time into World of Warcraft in the midst of all this hipster crap.

HE WANTED TO START A HARRY POTTER THEMED BLACK METAL BAND.



toggletoggle post by goatcatalyst   at Jan 18,2009 10:41am
Listen to the NME "Unholy Death" record backwards and stab your roommate's boyfriend's mother to death with a pair of scissors or you are [IMG]http://phree-porn.com/free/sleep-creep/pics/0004/foto/www.iwant18.com_008.jpg[\img]



toggletoggle post by goatcatalyst   at Jan 18,2009 10:42am
Fuck you, Internet! Lazy faggot.



toggletoggle post by PatMeebles at Jan 18,2009 10:55am
"An artificial appropriation of different styles from different eras, the hipster represents the end of Western civilization -- a culture lost in the superficiality of its past and unable to create any new meaning."

Probably the best I've ever seen that argument written



toggletoggle post by sever at Jan 18,2009 3:11pm
darkwor said[orig][quote]
HE WANTED TO START A HARRY POTTER THEMED BLACK METAL BAND.


Harry Potter is horrible garbage but I would love to see that done... the most unintentionally funny band ever.



toggletoggle post by Conservationist  at Jan 18,2009 5:16pm
PatMeebles said[orig][quote]
"An artificial appropriation of different styles from different eras, the hipster represents the end of Western civilization -- a culture lost in the superficiality of its past and unable to create any new meaning."

Probably the best I've ever seen that argument written


Even if one doesn't like the topic of the article, it's well-written and informative.



toggletoggle post by darkwor  at Jan 18,2009 6:53pm
you did write it, after all.



toggletoggle post by Conservationist  at Jan 18,2009 8:40pm
darkwor said[orig][quote]
you did write it, after all.


The original article is from Adbusters, and I did not write it (sadly!).



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Oct 20,2009 12:51pm
Models, anyone?



toggletoggle post by arktouros at Oct 20,2009 1:05pm



toggletoggle post by mattkings at Oct 20,2009 1:13pm
Hipsters can suck it



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Oct 20,2009 1:15pm
darkwor said[orig][quote]
HE WANTED TO START A HARRY POTTER THEMED BLACK METAL BAND.


hahahahahahaha



toggletoggle post by Boblovesmobile at Oct 20,2009 1:19pm
arilliusbm said[orig][quote]
darkwor said[orig][quote]
HE WANTED TO START A HARRY POTTER THEMED BLACK METAL BAND.


hahahahahahaha


there already is one...



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Oct 20,2009 1:21pm
It's sickening.



toggletoggle post by boblovesmusic   at Oct 20,2009 1:36pm



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Oct 20,2009 1:43pm
I've got beef with Harry Potter and that stupid series. My mother and sister both read them and loved it but I trolled them hard.



toggletoggle post by boblovesmusic   at Oct 20,2009 1:46pm
I can't deny that I enjoyed reading the series!



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Oct 20,2009 1:47pm
Speaking of fantasy, have you seen that stupid TV show that's based off of the Sword of Truth series? It's on ABC or whatever - I saw some of it the other night and it was AWFUL.



toggletoggle post by boblovesmusic   at Oct 20,2009 1:48pm
I don't have a TV so no.

I have been re-watching season 7 of Star Trek Deep Space Nine



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Oct 20,2009 1:51pm
bobhatestv,

Deep Space 9 = WTF?

Do you prefer that over TNG?



toggletoggle post by boblovesmusic   at Oct 20,2009 1:52pm
don't get me wrong, TNG is amazing and Picard is a hottie, but DS9 is incredible so yes.



toggletoggle post by boblovesmusic   at Oct 20,2009 1:53pm



toggletoggle post by arktouros at Oct 20,2009 1:53pm
arilliusbm said[orig][quote]
Speaking of fantasy, have you seen that stupid TV show that's based off of the Sword of Truth series? It's on ABC or whatever - I saw some of it the other night and it was AWFUL.


I read most of those books and one episode of that show undid everything about the series I had in my head. The intro must have been straight from a porn film.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Oct 20,2009 1:54pm
that's a blasphemous statement if I ever read one. I hope the Borg's devour your body when they ravage this planet



toggletoggle post by boblovesmusic   at Oct 20,2009 1:55pm
Jem'Hadar for the win!



toggletoggle post by boblovesmusic   at Oct 20,2009 1:55pm
for serious, I would love to see a Jem'Hadar/Borg space battle scene... haha



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Oct 20,2009 1:56pm
arktouros said[orig][quote]
arilliusbm said[orig][quote]
Speaking of fantasy, have you seen that stupid TV show that's based off of the Sword of Truth series? It's on ABC or whatever - I saw some of it the other night and it was AWFUL.


I read most of those books and one episode of that show undid everything about the series I had in my head. The intro must have been straight from a porn film.


Wizard's First Rule: DO NOT WATCH THIS SHOW



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Dec 6,2011 10:55am
Bump



toggletoggle post by Mark_R at Dec 6,2011 11:41am
Wizard's First Rule was one of the worst books I have ever read. What a waste of a reading week. ugh.

That said, I've heard that some of the later books in that series (Faith of the Fallen?) are somewhat better, but I don't know how much I want to find out.



toggletoggle post by SLAG IS HIPSTER/FAGGOT at Dec 6,2011 11:45am
I will go on record saying that I think Conservationist needs to get down from his "ivory tower" and actually meet another human being in person. Such is required to ever pass stupid judgements again.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Dec 6,2011 11:49am
Prozak has met many people. I never have, but have talked to people that have met him. He's apparently a real nice guy, nothing like you'd think.



toggletoggle post by arktourO‘s at Dec 6,2011 11:51am
Mark_R said[orig][quote]
Wizard's First Rule was one of the worst books I have ever read. What a waste of a reading week. ugh.

That said, I've heard that some of the later books in that series (Faith of the Fallen?) are somewhat better, but I don't know how much I want to find out.


I read Wizard's First Rule in 8th grade. At that point I'd gotten over the Dragonlance stuff and at the time I thought it was really awesome high fantasy. I read the next few books in the series and I think I stopped at Faith of the Fallen. I really enjoyed them when I was a kid, they were massive and at the same time easy to grasp - it only focused on a handful of characters and there wasn't a lot of crazy underlying themes or intrigue. Faith of the Fallen was alright, the main character gets imprisioned in some dark-age dictatorship country and shows people humanism and art. I have no desire to pick up the series again.



toggletoggle post by Mark_R at Dec 6,2011 12:05pm edited Dec 6,2011 12:05pm
I LOVED the two Weiss/Hickman Dragonlance trilogies. I even liked the one that came later (about the timeslip thing). Those were my favorites as a teen. I did not grow up reading fantasy and still am disposed against it, but Weiss/Hickman got to me somehow.



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