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returntothepit >> discuss >> movie: passion of the christ by BornSoVile on Feb 23,2004 7:17pm
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toggletoggle post by BornSoVile   at Feb 23,2004 7:17pm
ok, ok, I might doubt the severity of my evilness, but I'm feeling anxious to see this movie. tons and tons of controversy. critics say it's the most violent movie ever. plus they say the scene with jesus being tortured is possibly the most "painful" and "grotseque" in the history of amerikkkan cinenma ever.
I hope this pisses everyone off.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Feb 23,2004 7:19pm
hype hype hype.

nothing will ever beat bad taste or enter the killers.



toggletoggle post by succubus  at Feb 23,2004 7:25pm
there have been a few contraversial "jesus" movies
it's probably not more scandalous than one of the "international" flicks



toggletoggle post by MyDeadDoll   at Feb 23,2004 7:27pm
i really don't wanna sit through a movie
with subtitles. i'd rather go to the opera



toggletoggle post by talena at Feb 28,2004 6:20pm
im quite sure that any hype or controversy this movie may bring will be short lived, and over all it will probably suck ass... as does most movies bornsovile wants to see.



toggletoggle post by \\\\^/i|/e at Feb 28,2004 8:11pm
I saw it on thursday and I don't think that's hype at all. It's definately the most brutal movie I've ever seen. It took it a couple steps farther then I knew you could. This said, it's a very long and slow movie. I liked it a lot, but all of my friends I went with weren't really fans. It's definately worth at least one view.



toggletoggle post by Kalopsia   at Feb 29,2004 3:29am
i just got home and saw the movie. hands down the most disturbing movie i have ever seen. i have this thing about torture, and that word doesn't even come close to what happened to Jesus. it was un-fucking-believable.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Feb 29,2004 4:26am
you sound like you love jesus.
sounds very quuer.



toggletoggle post by Kalopsia   at Feb 29,2004 9:27am
"i love thy friends, and thy enemies my son. for i am at one with the lord and shall stand beside him in paradise."

seriously though, you really start to feel sorry for him. i mean that's the only violence there was in the movie, violence against him, and there was just so much of it.



toggletoggle post by BornSoVile   at Feb 29,2004 12:55pm
talena said:
im quite sure that any hype or controversy this movie may bring will be short lived, and over all it will probably suck ass... as does most movies bornsovile wants to see.


ouch. we watched some good movies together, Scarface and Taxi Driver are classics.



toggletoggle post by Sinistas   at Feb 29,2004 5:16pm
It was a great movie. When I don't feel like killing myself I'll see it again.



toggletoggle post by talena at Feb 29,2004 9:51pm
yeah then again i really didnt pay much attention to any of those movies



toggletoggle post by BornSoVile   at Feb 29,2004 9:53pm
no shit



toggletoggle post by anti semite at Mar 3,2004 3:02am
made me want to kill jews



toggletoggle post by JonahBloodbath   at Mar 3,2004 3:54am
"i really don't wanna sit through a movie
with subtitles. i'd rather go to the opera "

some of the most amazing movies i've ever seen have been with subtitles..



toggletoggle post by succubus  at Mar 3,2004 4:57am
i agree jonah...



toggletoggle post by litacore   at Mar 3,2004 9:44am
try getting through Fellini "Satyricon"

it's a challenge



toggletoggle post by succubus  at Mar 3,2004 9:48am
richard simmons is in it
heh

i am a huge Fellini fan and have a few of his films on DVD...they need some box set (unless it's already out)

i remember the day he died...
i think he had a heart attack in Rome..and it was the same day River Phoenix od'ed and died too
oct 31, 1993



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Mar 3,2004 9:54am
except river phoenix is a moron.



toggletoggle post by davyp at Mar 3,2004 10:00am
anti semite said:
made me want to kill jews


of course it did you fucking looser..... anyone w/ out mind would want to do that, seems like you didn't get the story bonehead.. In not religious man nor am i preaching to you, but your a fucking moron and you totaly missed the point. so a big FUCK YOU anti semite



toggletoggle post by litacore   at Mar 3,2004 10:02am
anti-semitism is the most illogical brain disorder I've ever heard of

no one has ever explained to me how or why they arrive at those erroneous conclusions, WTF



toggletoggle post by davyp at Mar 3,2004 10:04am
im w/ you Litacore, i cant fathom what goes on in the brains of those who hate for no reason



toggletoggle post by housebythecemetery   at Mar 3,2004 11:11am
if they torture jesus i have to see it. HAIL SATAN



toggletoggle post by succubus  at Mar 7,2004 3:35pm
ok we just got back from seeing it
ironic that James (Jim) Caviezel played Jesus...since he's a strict Catholic and refused to film love scenes with Jennifer Lopes (Angel Eyes) and Ashley Judd (High Crimes)...i still really like Frequency....

oh and during filming of this movie he got hit by lightening



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Mar 7,2004 3:36pm
just saw it.
damn... I want to mention things, but I don't want to ruin it for people.



toggletoggle post by TheGreatSpaldino   at Mar 7,2004 4:30pm
it sucked. it was boring and the whole movies was seriously Jesus getting his ass kicked, then killed.



toggletoggle post by Justin ACR at Mar 7,2004 5:31pm
i found it intresting, the story was obviously nothing new to me, the filmmakers did a good job following the actual text from the bible...



toggletoggle post by swamplorddvm  at Mar 7,2004 7:27pm
I just saw it. Hey gibson, way to blame the jewsass hole.
What propaganda.



toggletoggle post by JellyFish at Mar 7,2004 7:47pm
Cool violence, and everything, but 90 out of 125 minutes were jesus getting beaten, whipped, and eventually, killed. Oh well, listened to Dark Funeral on the way there andUnleashed the way back.



toggletoggle post by Ninkaszi187   at Mar 7,2004 7:48pm
I saw it last night. It was brutal, and definitely worth watching. If you hate Jesus, go and see it at least for the torture.

It actually was a good movie imo. The Judas parts were great, the portrayel of temptation, and the imagery was awesome. I'd watch it again. People were leaving the theatre, and you could hear people crying the entire time.

I'm not religous at all, so it didn't bother me. I thought it made the Jews look bad, and if this story is "true" (which I don't think it is), the Jews should look bad for it. If you haven't seen it, don't even try to tell me I'm anti-semetic. If any group did this to someone, they would look bad.



toggletoggle post by Dreaded_Silence   at Mar 7,2004 9:27pm
I saw it friday night...it has finally occurred to me that i cannot take a goddamn thing seriously. while he was getting beaten with the sticks then the razor whip-things, it was dead quiet in the theatre, i'm pretty sure people were crying too and just out of nowhere i thought of a random family guy moment for no reason and started laughing...as much as i hate religion, i still respect people's beliefs and i realize that this was a serious movie whether you are religious or not, i felt like shit for laughing



toggletoggle post by Sinistas   at Mar 7,2004 9:55pm
If you thought the Jews were portrayed badly in this film, you obviously bought into the hype. The point was that ALL humanity is to blame. *shakes head* Anyways, best movie I've seen in a while.



toggletoggle post by Ninkaszi187   at Mar 7,2004 10:19pm
How could you say the Jews weren't portrayed badly? Did you even watch it? I don't care about what you think the point is, or what the hype was. The mob mentality of the Jews IN THE MOVIE made them look bad, fact.



toggletoggle post by BornSoVile   at Mar 7,2004 11:02pm
just got back from seeing it with Ma. it was really good and better than I expected. it hasn't converted me from my beliefs in the slightest bit. I agree with Ninkaszi, it portrays them not only as bad but stupid, the best example was when they freed barbarra. you can see where some people say queers brought down the romans when you see king herod. i think the earthquake when the tear/raindrop falls is bullshit and never happened. the torture scene wasn't that bad, the entire movie is a great display of ancient torture as well the usually idiodic (sp? :p) trial process people faced. worth seeing again and I'm tempted to buy it on dvd. Hail Gibson.



toggletoggle post by gorg at Mar 7,2004 11:20pm
um, mel gibson is a psychopath. he's a devout catholic and a bigot.

fuck that guy, i hope he eats shit. i have not seen this movie. i heard it was boring as shit and not that great of a movie, and then it was jesus getting his ass beat for 90 minutes. sounds retarted. i dont think i'll go thanks.



toggletoggle post by Sinistas   at Mar 8,2004 6:49am
Ninkaszi187 said:
How could you say the Jews weren't portrayed badly? Did you even watch it? I don't care about what you think the point is, or what the hype was. The mob mentality of the Jews IN THE MOVIE made them look bad, fact.


The only person that didn't look bad in this movie (besides Jesus/disciples) was Pilate, and that, historically, is wrong. EVERYBODY else was cast in a negative light...Especially the Roman soldiers, who very much seemed to be enjoying the suffering they caused. And yes, I saw it opening night.



toggletoggle post by BornSoVile   at Mar 8,2004 7:45am
gorg said:
um, mel gibson is a psychopath. he's a devout catholic and a bigot.

fuck that guy, i hope he eats shit. i have not seen this movie. i heard it was boring as shit and not that great of a movie, and then it was jesus getting his ass beat for 90 minutes. sounds retarted. i dont think i'll go thanks.


sarcasm rulez. Braveheart is one of my all time favorites.



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Mar 8,2004 12:51pm
well pilATe never really wANted to put jesus to deATh, he felt pressured to, rd the bible



toggletoggle post by TheGreatSpaldino   at Mar 8,2004 1:17pm
Roman society was prety harsh though... i mean, they fucked up the Greeks and stole their mythology. they tossed "defective" and "unworthy" infants off the sides of cliffs... what did they do that could possibly make them seem like they were good-natured people?



toggletoggle post by gorg at Mar 8,2004 4:27pm
braveheart is amazing. too bad mel gibson didnt write the movie, like he did for the passion of christ.



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Mar 8,2004 6:26pm
christianity is responsible for more bloodshed than any entity in the history of the universe,so personally I enjoyed the bloody depiction of that cocksucker Jesus being brutalized... Hey when is the sequel coming out? By the way...to all of my grade school nuns: I hope that allof you useless cunts are burning in your "savior's" hell.. with glass up your ass qand the devil's syphlis dick up your tight cunts? What's my fucking penance Jesus? huh? Kurt Laprairie



toggletoggle post by morkul  at Mar 8,2004 6:47pm
anonymous said:
christianity is responsible for more bloodshed than any entity in the history of the universe,so personally I enjoyed the bloody depiction of that cocksucker Jesus being brutalized... Hey when is the sequel coming out? By the way...to all of my grade school nuns: I hope that allof you useless cunts are burning in your "savior's" hell.. with glass up your ass qand the devil's syphlis dick up your tight cunts? What's my fucking penance Jesus? huh? Kurt Laprairie


anonymous people FUCKIN SUCK. YOU HAVE NO BALLS TO LOG ON DO YOU?



toggletoggle post by Justin ACR at Mar 8,2004 7:25pm
"braveheart is amazing. too bad mel gibson didnt write the movie, like he did for the passion of christ."

mel gibson didn't write the story, he wrote the screenplay and directed it.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Mar 8,2004 9:10pm
I can't wait for the seuel.
Jesus christ "coming to america 2"
with eddie murphy as JC!



toggletoggle post by litacore   at Mar 15,2004 1:39pm
> Steve Martin / The New Yorker / Studio Script Notes on "The Passion".
>
> Dear Mel,
>
> We love, LOVE the script! The ending works great. You'll be getting a call
> from us to start negotiations for the book rights. Love? the Jesus character.
> So likable. He can't seem to catch a break! We identify with him because of
> it.
>
> One thing, I think we need to clearly state "the rules." Why doesn't he use
> his super powers to save? himself? The creative people suggest that you could
> simply cut away to two spectators: Spectator one: Why doesn't he use his super
> powers to save himself? Spectator two: He can only use his powers to help
> others, never himself. Does it matter which garden? Gethsemane is hard to say
> and Eden is a much more recognizable garden. Just thinking out loud.
>
> Our creative people suggest a clock visual fading in and out in certain scenes
> like the last supper bit: Monday, 12:43pm." or later, "Good Friday, 5:14pm."
> Love the repetition of "is it I?" Could be very funny. On the eighth inquiry,
> could Jesus just give a little look into camera? Breaks frame, but could be a
> riot.
>
> Also could he change water into wine in last supper scene? Would be a great
> moment, and it's legit. History compression is a movie tradition and could
> really brighten up the scene. Love the flaying. Could the Rabbis be Hispanic?
> There's lots of hot Latino actors now, could give us a little zing at the box
> office. Research says there's some justification for it. Is there somewhere
> where Jesus could be using an iMac? You know, now that I hear myself say it,
> it sounds ridiculous. Strike that. But think about it. Maybe we start a shot
> in heaven with Jesus thoughtfully closing the top? (Reminder: heaven is
> timeless)
>
> The studio is very high on Johnny Depp right now. Just saw him in "Pirates."
> He was hilarious. Might be right for Jesus? Not so straightforward. He could
> bring a lot of pizzazz to the role. I think a meeting would be warranted. Love
> the idea of Monica Belluci as Mary Magdalene (Yow!).? Our creative people
> suggest a name change to Heather. Could skew our audience a little younger.
> Love Judas. Such a great villain. Our creative people suggest that he's a
> little "conflicted." Couldn't he be one thing? Just bad? Gives the movie much
> more of a motor.
>
> Also, 30 pieces of silver is not going to get anyone excited. I think it's
> very simple to make him a "new millionaire." Bring in the cash on a tray.
> Great dilemma that the audience can identify with.
>
> Minor spelling error: on page 18, in the description of the bystanders, there
> should be a space between the words "Jew" and "boy."
>
> Merchandising issue: it seems the cross image has been done to death and we
> can't own it. Could the crucifixion scene involve something else? A Toyota
> would be wrong, but maybe there's a shape we can copyright, like an ellipse?
>
> I'm assuming "the dialogue is in Aremeic," is a typo for "American." If not
> call me on my cell or I'm at home all weekend.
>
> By the way, I'm sending a group of staffers on a cruise to the North Pole,
> coincidentally around the time of the release date. Would love to invite your
> dad! * * *



toggletoggle post by Triumphant_Gleam  at Mar 15,2004 1:42pm
YEAH!



toggletoggle post by Triumphant_Gleam  at Mar 15,2004 1:43pm
Ninkaszi187 said:
How could you say the Jews weren't portrayed badly? Did you even watch it? I don't care about what you think the point is, or what the hype was. The mob mentality of the Jews IN THE MOVIE made them look bad, fact.


or more like YEAH!



toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Mar 15,2004 1:58pm
saw it friday with my girlfriend. I went wearing a dimmu hoodie that says "in satan we trust" on the back, hahaha

was better than i expected, good movie. supposivly they have proof that a 'jesus' actually existed, but no proof of him being a saviour or anything. either way, no way a dude would be able to tolerate a beating like that without passing out.



toggletoggle post by davyp at Mar 15,2004 2:08pm edited Mar 15,2004 3:03pm
BornSoVile said:
just got back from seeing it with Ma. it was really good and better than I expected. it hasn't converted me from my beliefs in the slightest bit. I agree with Ninkaszi, it portrays them not only as bad but stupid, the best example was when they freed barbarra. you can see where some people say queers brought down the romans when you see king herod. i think the earthquake when the tear/raindrop falls is bullshit and never happened. the torture scene wasn't that bad, the entire movie is a great display of ancient torture as well the usually idiodic (sp? :p) trial process people faced. worth seeing again and I'm tempted to buy it on dvd. Hail Gibson.


King Herod was a Hebrew King..... He has a Jewish name and was of hebrew/jewish blood..... and "Queers" were no the reason that rome fell, thats religious dogma, Rome fell after the Huns destroyed Constantinople in the 8th century prior to that Rome was falling apart at the seems anyway, too many leaders and the empire was too big... back to the movie, I dont think this movie portrayed the jews as bad or stupid... I dont think the movie was anti-semetic at all. It showed the greed/lust of the Jewish people of this time. They were starving for freedom from the Romans and wanted to make everything right witht the romans and when Jesus came into play they saw him as threat to there way of life and their ties to the romans. They did not persicute jesus because he thought he was the king of man, they persicuted him for politcal reasons. Jesus could have taken Jerusilem days prior to the crucifiction with the army his diciples gathered days prior, but jesus knew (hypetheticly) that had to die so that no more blood shed was to happen and the Jews seeing him as a threat to their way of life had him killed because they knew he was powerful... and the Barabbas scene showed the actual inteligence of the Jewish hirarchy. they knew they needed to destroy Jesus. releasing a rapist and murder that would end up back in prison for another crime later down the road was a smart move, They killed two birds with one stone, knowing the he would end up back in prison and Jesus was no more. It was a political murder and nothing more.. Mel Gibson portrayed that wonderfuly.



toggletoggle post by davyp at Mar 15,2004 4:36pm
anonymous said:
christianity is responsible for more bloodshed than any entity in the history of the universe,so personally I enjoyed the bloody depiction of that cocksucker Jesus being brutalized... Hey when is the sequel coming out? By the way...to all of my grade school nuns: I hope that allof you useless cunts are burning in your "savior's" hell.. with glass up your ass qand the devil's syphlis dick up your tight cunts? What's my fucking penance Jesus? huh? Kurt Laprairie


No humans are you dumb fuck



toggletoggle post by morkul  at Mar 15,2004 4:48pm
davyp said:
BornSoVile said:
just got back from seeing it with Ma. it was really good and better than I expected. it hasn't converted me from my beliefs in the slightest bit. I agree with Ninkaszi, it portrays them not only as bad but stupid, the best example was when they freed barbarra. you can see where some people say queers brought down the romans when you see king herod. i think the earthquake when the tear/raindrop falls is bullshit and never happened. the torture scene wasn't that bad, the entire movie is a great display of ancient torture as well the usually idiodic (sp? :p) trial process people faced. worth seeing again and I'm tempted to buy it on dvd. Hail Gibson.


King Herod was a Hebrew King..... He has a Jewish name and was of hebrew/jewish blood..... and "Queers" were no the reason that rome fell, thats religious dogma, Rome fell after the Huns destroyed Constantinople in the 8th century prior to that Rome was falling apart at the seems anyway, too many leaders and the empire was too big... back to the movie, I dont think this movie portrayed the jews as bad or stupid... I dont think the movie was anti-semetic at all. It showed the greed/lust of the Jewish people of this time. They were starving for freedom from the Romans and wanted to make everything right witht the romans and when Jesus came into play they saw him as threat to there way of life and their ties to the romans. They did not persicute jesus because he thought he was the king of man, they persicuted him for politcal reasons. Jesus could have taken Jerusilem days prior to the crucifiction with the army his diciples gathered days prior, but jesus knew (hypetheticly) that had to die so that no more blood shed was to happen and the Jews seeing him as a threat to their way of life had him killed because they knew he was powerful... and the Barabbas scene showed the actual inteligence of the Jewish hirarchy. they knew they needed to destroy Jesus. releasing a rapist and murder that would end up back in prison for another crime later down the road was a smart move, They killed two birds with one stone, knowing the he would end up back in prison and Jesus was no more. It was a political murder and nothing more.. Mel Gibson portrayed that wonderfuly.


Couldn't of said it better myself. Amen to someone with a mind.



toggletoggle post by BornSoVile   at Mar 15,2004 5:29pm
davyp said:
"Queers" were no the reason that rome fell, thats religious dogma, Rome fell after the Huns destroyed Constantinople in the 8th century prior to that Rome was falling apart at the seems anyway, too many leaders and the empire was too big


Yes, I was aware of that, I was fired up on a Bill Maher segment I watched early where a woman cited that theory as a reason to denouce gay marriage. Sucks being "that kid" who makes an ass out of himself . I didn't really think the movie strived to prove the fact that Jesus was killed for a political reason. In fact I think it only prooves that he was killed for being a "king" while at the same time a somewhat "delirious fool". However, I want to see this flick again so I can come to a better conclusion, fucking jesus.



toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Mar 17,2004 4:15pm
IMPALED's review of the 'passion of christ'

http://www.sfweekly.com/issues/2004-03-17/garrett.html/1/index.html

hahah rock!




toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Mar 17,2004 11:18pm
why did no one read that yet? it's great!



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Mar 17,2004 11:54pm
that is fairly entertaining.



toggletoggle post by succubus  at Mar 18,2004 1:07am
that's because i was in court when you posted that...then the board moves fast!



toggletoggle post by litacore   at Mar 19,2004 9:49am
the tragedy of this is that you won't hear any politicians scapegoating this film like they do with metal
------------------------------------------
Couple arrested after 'Passion' fight

STATESBORO, Georgia (AP) -- A couple who got into a dispute over a theological point after watching "The Passion of the Christ" were arrested after the argument turned violent.

The two left the movie theater debating whether God the Father in the Holy Trinity was human or symbolic, and the argument heated up when they got home, Melissa Davidson said.

"It was the dumbest thing we've ever done," she said.

Davidson, 34, and her husband, Sean Davidson, 33, were charged with simple battery on March 11 after the two called police on each other. They were released on $1,000 bail.

According to a police report, Melissa Davidson suffered injuries on her arm and face, while her husband had a scissors stab wound on his hand and his shirt was ripped off. He also allegedly punched a hole in a wall.

"Really, it was kind of a pitiful thing, to go to a movie like that and fight about it. I think they missed the point," said Gene McDaniel, chief sheriff's deputy.



--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Copyright 2004 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.







Find this article at:
http://www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/03/18/passionate.dispute.ap/index.html



toggletoggle post by davyp at Mar 19,2004 10:44am
thats too funny



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Dec 25,2004 2:21pm
You ignorant cocksucker, I signed my name, isn't that as good as logging on? Oh' by the way, your girlfriend gives shitty blowjobs....



toggletoggle post by assuck   at Dec 25,2004 5:06pm
i think im the only person in the country who hasnt seen this movie



toggletoggle post by retzam at Dec 25,2004 9:52pm
I havn't either.



toggletoggle post by ArrowHead  at Dec 25,2004 11:21pm
1. The movie doesn't make Jews look bad. It makes the ROMANS look bad. It makes GOD look bad.

2. The movie is very good about being faithful to the violence and torture christ endured. However, like all christian propaganda, it ignores the actual biblical accounts of christ and instead paints him as a peaceful, loving individual who is here only to save and redeem us. Read the bible, guys. Christ was deceptive, endorsed violence, and will ultimately inflict torture, violence, and damnation upon the human race in it's entirety.

3. This movie is nothing but hype. It contains little of the teachings of christ, nor does it explain the divine motivation of the events within it's script. It merely exists to motivate faith through guilt, a common tact within the roman church gibson belongs to. Before being swayed by any of that shit, remember: Jesus kills and tortures all the members of the church right after he destroys america.

I can't believe people would waste their time putting actual thought and reflection into this film. Try reading the bible yourself instead of just observing the beliefs of someone else who read it for you.




toggletoggle post by ArrowHead  at Dec 25,2004 11:35pm
litacore said:

The two left the movie theater debating whether God the Father in the Holy Trinity was human or symbolic, and the argument heated up when they got home, Melissa Davidson said.



The holy trinity(s) are the most misunderstood things in todays churches.

The holy trinity is NOT symbolic, it's literal. The "good" trinity is GOD, creator and omnipotent deity, JESUS, human offspring of david and mary (that's right, there was no "immaculate" conception, he just had an angel for a father) who held the wisdom and power of GOD, and the holy spirit, which is the "word of god", or the force that drives people to accept christ as savior.

The "bad" trinity consists of Satan, the form Lucifer the first creation takes after accepting free-will, The anti-christ - a human who will bring peace to the world under pretense of being the messiah, and the false prophet, who will drive people to worship the anti-christ as the true messiah.






toggletoggle post by malettey  at Dec 26,2004 12:42am
i think this movie is really good. very intense, kinda sticks in your mind long after you're done watching it. i'm not going to go into details about my feelings towards religion; i don't believe in god anymore but i still thought this was an awesome movie.

now a few comments:

its funny all during the scene where jesus is being whipped, i didn't really feel much discomfort, although there was that one blow where the hooks of the whip caught on jesus's side and the soldier RIPPED a big piece of flesh out! uuggghhh! another thing that made me cringe was every time jesus fell down, the beam of his cross kept crashing down on the crown of thorns on his head! ahhh! and that other crucified guy getting his eye pecked out? eeeeuuuwwwww!!!
i don't know, maybe i'm just de-sensitized to violence, but i really thought the violence in this movie was going to be a lot worse. although the depiction of jesus's beatings is a lot more graphic than other jesus movies, i think in reality, jesus would have looked a lot more fucked up than he was portrayed in the movie.
i also think is was strange in the movie how jesus could keep so quiet all during those long hours of mutilation and disfigurement. he barely made a peep! i would have been screaming my lungs out if i'd been whipped like that. i yell when i stub my fucking toe, let alone being flayed alive.

those devil children - very cool! very crazy looking.

i noticed that whenever there was a close up shot of jesus's face, you can tell the actor is wearing a brown contact lens.

anyways, i think ol' mel gibson did a good job on the movie. i'd say 3 1/2-4 stars. if you're catholic, this movie will move you to tears and make you want to be a better christian, or it'll just make you sick to your stomach. if you're a non believer like me, well, you'll just have to open your mind a little bit and watch it for the story.



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