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returntothepit >> discuss >> Macs by ConquerTheBaphomet on Aug 21,2008 5:08am
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toggletoggle post by ConquerTheBaphomet  at Aug 21,2008 5:08am
I'm thinking about getting a Mac laptop. I want to know the pros and cons of owning said machine. Any help is welcome. Thanks.



toggletoggle post by MASlayer at Aug 21,2008 7:10am
no viruses



toggletoggle post by BobNOMAAMRooney nli at Aug 21,2008 7:25am
Pros: Makes picking up dudes 10x easier

Cons: No Crysis



toggletoggle post by samYam at Aug 21,2008 8:42am
I use a Mac and will never buy a PC again.



toggletoggle post by thuringwethil at Aug 21,2008 9:09am


I use both, but Macs are better for graphic design



toggletoggle post by DYA / NLI at Aug 21,2008 9:24am

bennyhillifier

Pretty much says it all. Oh, also the anal penetration.



toggletoggle post by menstrual_sweatpants_disco   at Aug 21,2008 9:27am
thuringwethil said[orig][quote]


I use both, but Macs are better for graphic design


LOLZ



toggletoggle post by joey umbrella at Aug 21,2008 9:55am
love my mac. i dont use is for a ton of programs, but i have had it 4 years, and don't have one problem. and i only am running 512 of ram, still fast as hell.



toggletoggle post by thuringwethil at Aug 21,2008 10:17am
MacBook Pro 15" ftw

I do all my recording on it (via MOTU interface)



toggletoggle post by fleshfries at Aug 21,2008 10:17am
MASlayer said[orig][quote]
no viruses


Wrong, I've seen them, and they're becoming more and more common.



toggletoggle post by GoatCatalyst   at Aug 21,2008 10:23am
"Go listen to Opeth and dream of felching Chuck Schuldiner's rotting AIDShole, you wily Christian faggot." - GoatConservationist. ... did I do good?



toggletoggle post by sxealex   at Aug 21,2008 10:31am
fleshfries said[orig][quote]
MASlayer said[orig][quote]
no viruses


Wrong, I've seen them, and they're becoming more and more common.


i call bullshiter



toggletoggle post by BobNOMAAMRooney nli at Aug 21,2008 10:36am
GoatCatalyst said[orig][quote]
"Go listen to Opeth and dream of felching Chuck Schuldiner's rotting AIDShole, you wily Christian faggot." - GoatConservationist. ... did I do good?


Post a picture of dude eating a turd and using a Mac with the caption "Typical Mac User" and you're gold.



toggletoggle post by sxealex   at Aug 21,2008 10:38am
im pretty sure typical mac users are hot girls



toggletoggle post by Conservationist  at Aug 21,2008 10:45am
samYam said[orig][quote]
I use a Mac and will never buy a PC again.


Macs are good if you're a delusional liberal or emosexual.

I used to be a hardcore Mac user.

Eventually I realized this: Macs encourage a pretentious, holier-than-thou attitude based on the supposed superiority of their interface, which encourages most people to become wankers with little knowledge instead of power users.

Oh, and their hardware design SUCKS ASS and is completely unreliable.

My advice:

Get yourself a good machine -- build it or buy from one of the few people still selling quality gear -- and install Windows on it. Then install a virtual machine and put Linux (Debian) on that. Best of both worlds.

At some point, you may migrate entirely to Linux. It's hard, because 99% of the apps you will need are running on Windows, and WINE is not quite there yet (Windows emu on Linux). But it can be a lot of fun.



toggletoggle post by Conservationist  at Aug 21,2008 10:46am
BobNOMAAMRooney%20nli said[orig][quote]
GoatCatalyst said[orig][quote]
"Go listen to Opeth and dream of felching Chuck Schuldiner's rotting AIDShole, you wily Christian faggot." - GoatConservationist. ... did I do good?


Post a picture of dude eating a turd and using a Mac with the caption "Typical Mac User" and you're gold.


http://typicalmacintoshuser.com/

and the ripoff

http://www.themacuser.com/



toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Aug 21,2008 11:05am
i use a mac because i'm a graphic designer. people who get into the whole mac vs. PC who is cooler debate are retarded. anyone who thinks a mac makes them more cutting edge or cool should kill themselves. all it is is a different kind of computer. doesn't make you smarter or better. i used to know these computer nerds who thought taunting me and some other friends about using macs would piss us off. it didn't. i don't give a shit.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Aug 21,2008 11:09am
thuringwethil said[orig][quote]


I use both, but Macs are better for graphic design
wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong.
Macs used to be better for audio, graphic design, etc... Macs were all about building their own hardware, had nice powerpc processors, the g4 had 128-bit (2x64bit) cache channels, etc... then they stopped and started letting in outside hardware. that's where they ran towards failure. PCs are just more prolific. if you want the equivalent in a Mac to a PC, you spend 1.5-2x as much and can't run 1/2 the programs you need to do what you want.
The only good thing is that 10.x is unix based, but you can get everything that you want to do on a mac to work almost as well on a linux machine for free.



toggletoggle post by christopher at Aug 21,2008 11:57am
I have my mac and I like it alot. I don't use my machine much more then to go on the internet, listen to music and write papers. It does that all very well. And when I delete something a little cloud appears. I think the cloud is worth it.



toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Aug 21,2008 12:02pm
simple solution: if you like/want a mac, get a mac. if you like/want a pc, get a pc. if you like mayo on your sangwich, get mayo on it. if you like mustard, get mustard.



toggletoggle post by RustyPS  at Aug 21,2008 12:04pm
dreadkill said[orig][quote]
simple solution: if you like/want a mac, get a mac. if you like/want a pc, get a pc. if you like mayo on your sangwich, get mayo on it. if you like mustard, get mustard.


word...I personally hate Macs, but I wouldn't seriously begrudge someone for using one....might bust their balls a tad, but nothing serious



toggletoggle post by Conservationist  at Aug 21,2008 12:23pm
the_reverend said[orig][quote]

Macs used to be better for audio, graphic design, etc... Macs were all about building their own hardware, had nice powerpc processors, the g4 had 128-bit (2x64bit) cache channels, etc... then they stopped and started letting in outside hardware. that's where they ran towards failure. PCs are just more prolific. if you want the equivalent in a Mac to a PC, you spend 1.5-2x as much and can't run 1/2 the programs you need to do what you want.

The only good thing is that 10.x is unix based, but you can get everything that you want to do on a mac to work almost as well on a linux machine for free.


I could not have said it better myself.

Macs seem good until you look deeply at what's going on.

The old way Apple did things -- proprietary hardware -- was cool for the reason Rev mentioned: fascism. They had quality control. Unfortunately, it meant that everything was more expensive, and they had a few stinkers.

Since Gassee and the open Mac, they've steadily been heading toward standards as a way of cutting cost. Now they've found a way to get people to buy PC hardware at many times its normal price, which is why the Street loves 'em: high margin, low risk.



toggletoggle post by metal_church101  at Aug 21,2008 12:24pm
Never felt like shelling out the cash for a mak. Stayed with a PC and it works for me.



toggletoggle post by Yeti at Aug 21,2008 12:42pm
Conservationist said[orig][quote]
Eventually I realized this: Macs encourage a pretentious, holier-than-thou attitude based on the supposed superiority of their interface, which encourages most people to become wankers with little knowledge instead of power users..


Macs cause smug.



toggletoggle post by thuringwethil at Aug 21,2008 12:51pm
haha

thaaaaaaaaaaannkkssssssssss



toggletoggle post by aril at Aug 21,2008 12:54pm
I can't wait for when Google makes its own OS and starts making computers. You KNOW it will be good and blow MS away.



toggletoggle post by Conservationist  at Aug 21,2008 1:21pm
Yeti said[orig][quote]
Macs cause smug.


Macs cause smugemo.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Aug 21,2008 1:25pm
wait for Google to make an os? it already did.



toggletoggle post by aril at Aug 21,2008 1:27pm
?
I thought they were in the process of making it?



toggletoggle post by Conservationist  at Aug 21,2008 1:28pm edited Aug 21,2008 1:29pm



toggletoggle post by aril at Aug 21,2008 1:30pm
Whatever, out or not, I want that. Google>MS>yahoo



toggletoggle post by Conservationist  at Aug 21,2008 1:46pm
Also this option:

http://www.reactos.org/en/index.html

BTW, Reiser File System (RFS) ftw.



toggletoggle post by zenerik NLI OMFGZ at Aug 21,2008 2:38pm
RustyPS said[orig][quote]
dreadkill said[orig][quote]
simple solution: if you like/want a mac, get a mac. if you like/want a pc, get a pc. if you like mayo on your sangwich, get mayo on it. if you like mustard, get mustard.


word...I personally hate Macs, but I wouldn't seriously begrudge someone for using one....might bust their balls a tad, but nothing serious

Your band's demo certainly wasn't recorded on Vista. Praise the lord.



toggletoggle post by thuringwethil at Aug 21,2008 2:43pm

bennyhillifier

anyone seen the mouse for my Amiga?



toggletoggle post by Conservationist  at Aug 21,2008 2:59pm
I remember watching an Amiga, $500 system, outperform my Mac in Mac emulation mode -- and it didn't have 2.5mb of RAM and a 20 MB HD.

Macs are HIVvy.



toggletoggle post by BenFo at Aug 21,2008 3:00pm
I plan on getting a mac strictly for video / audio editing.



toggletoggle post by Conservationist  at Aug 21,2008 4:01pm
BenFo said[orig][quote]
I plan on getting a mac strictly for video / audio editing.


Sleep on your back. ;)



toggletoggle post by MattBreen at Aug 21,2008 4:07pm
Mac has terrible commercials



toggletoggle post by ConquerTheBaphomet  at Aug 21,2008 4:44pm
I have a Dell Inspirion 6000 notebook and it's getting old. I just want a change and my friend owns one. He's always telling me how awesome Macs are, so I'm going to do my research.



toggletoggle post by Conservationist  at Aug 21,2008 4:53pm
I like the Lenovo I have. I think it was $815 on sale.



toggletoggle post by Cream of Sumyunguy at Aug 21,2008 7:13pm
thuringwethil said[orig][quote]


I use both, but Macs are better for graphic design


Why's that?



toggletoggle post by Conservationist  at Aug 21,2008 9:08pm
If you run out of creativity, they anally rape you. Inspiration, next stop!



toggletoggle post by Mike_K nli at Aug 21,2008 9:25pm
Macs are overpriced for what you get. I bought an HP custom. So much better.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Aug 21,2008 9:30pm
I don't care for hps. I buy usually dells cause the are (now-a-days) solid.



toggletoggle post by xanonymousx at Aug 21,2008 9:32pm
i work at the apple store....



toggletoggle post by xanonymousx at Aug 21,2008 9:34pm
ConquerTheBaphomet said[orig][quote]
I have a Dell Inspirion 6000 notebook and it's getting old. I just want a change and my friend owns one. He's always telling me how awesome Macs are, so I'm going to do my research.


wait till the end of september... the rumor sites say they may be doing an update then....
they are never 100% right but yeah...
if you buy one now and are a student, you can get get an 8 gig touch, and a free printer...[$99 towards one]
believe me we have enough in stock and will never run out so yeah



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Aug 21,2008 9:34pm
I both love and hate when they put their finger down your peehole there.



toggletoggle post by ConquerTheBaphomet  at Aug 21,2008 10:38pm
I'm not in school. I just want a better computer.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Aug 21,2008 11:21pm
then why buy a mac... unless your old computer's a TI-81. and even then it's a tough call.



toggletoggle post by ConquerTheBaphomet  at Aug 21,2008 11:44pm
Why not have a Mac? Do I need a specific purpose for it to own one?



toggletoggle post by Conservationist  at Aug 21,2008 11:56pm
ConquerTheBaphomet said[orig][quote]
Do I need a specific purpose for it to own one?


You don't need a specific purpose for a pink translucent 2 ft dildo either.

Maybe it's a lamp.

If you do get that Mac, we should talk via private messages <3. Are you into bears?



toggletoggle post by Cream of Sumyunguy at Aug 22,2008 12:10am
ConquerTheBaphomet said[orig][quote]
Why not have a Mac? Do I need a specific purpose for it to own one?


IMO for the unreasonable price, aggrivating user interface, lack of software support, and the terrible hippy smugness of owning one...


then I'd say you do need a specific purpose. A damn good one.



toggletoggle post by ConquerTheBaphomet  at Aug 22,2008 12:18am
People who have "hippy smugness" over owning a stupid computer have greater issues than meets the eye.



toggletoggle post by Cream of Sumyunguy at Aug 22,2008 12:25am
then choose one of the other reasons for not owning one.

a mac is no more or less prone to viruses then vista assuming the user isn't retarded and in 5th grade still trying to download bonzai buddy.

If you can find a difference between protools, photoshop, or any other leading software that's in favor of mac, I'll give you a solid gold telephone. audio/graphic software isn't any different on a mac then a PC these days.

I just don't see any single benefit to owning a mac other then fashion/status.

if you want to be a statusfag, then just buy an alienware and get the benefits of a not-retarded OS and silly 'im different' visual appeal.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Aug 22,2008 12:33am
that's basically what I said. if macs came out with a cheaper 65nm quad core or cellbased laptop... made...

plus, think about it, any of the software you have ever used basically won't work and you will have to buy it cause pirating mac stuff is a lot less common.



toggletoggle post by ConquerTheBaphomet  at Aug 22,2008 1:01am
Well, my choices were either a new Dell, an HP or a Mac.



toggletoggle post by Cream of Sumyunguy at Aug 22,2008 1:13am
Dell. Hands down.

after making that alienware joke I was looking at some of the new alienware notebooks. They are pretty sweet.

and since alienware is owned by dell these days..



toggletoggle post by Cream of Sumyunguy at Aug 22,2008 1:37am
You can get a dell with 4 gigs of ram, a 2.2 dual core, 120gb hard drve, wireless card, decent video card, etc for under a grand.

idk, do what you want. That's where my money would go anyways.




toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Aug 22,2008 2:31am
alienware have been the pricey leaders in the high end for gaming since forever.

dells are the best $ for $. quality comfort and price. I would wait for a super dell deal (october is end of the year and they sometimes have $700 off coupons).

if I had unlimited moneys, I would get the new lenovo W700, but on a budget, a dell 1530 or 1330 would rock. T98xx processor.



toggletoggle post by ConquerTheBaphomet  at Aug 22,2008 2:37am
I don't care about gaming.



toggletoggle post by thuringwethil at Aug 22,2008 7:49am
get a Tom Servo



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Aug 22,2008 8:42am
from what you have said so far, a $200 netbook would work just fine for you.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Aug 22,2008 11:00am
alienware have been the pricey leaders in the high end for gaming since forever.

dells are the best $ for $. quality comfort and price. I would wait for a super dell deal (october is end of the year and they sometimes have $700 off coupons).

if I had unlimited moneys, I would get the new lenovo W700, but on a budget, a dell 1530 or 1330 would rock. T98xx processor.



toggletoggle post by Conservationist  at Aug 22,2008 11:09am
ConquerTheBaphomet said[orig][quote]
Well, my choices were either a new Dell, an HP or a Mac.


Depending on what you use it for, you could also consider the Asus Eee.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Aug 22,2008 11:13am
that's basically exactly what I said. I would get a netbook... but there isn't one with battery life/options that I want.
7"screen, multi-touch support, 60gb hd, tablet form factor, 5hrs battery, and either a CF reader or 7-in-1 reader.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Aug 22,2008 11:14am
I was looking at the new gigabyte 9012m but the battery is crap and there is no card reader.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Aug 22,2008 11:20am



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Aug 22,2008 11:24am



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Aug 22,2008 1:04pm



toggletoggle post by Cream of Sumyunguy at Aug 22,2008 2:13pm
the_reverend said[orig][quote]
http://forums.slickdeals.net/showthread.php?threadid=903115


The smart money is on that.

you're not going to find anything better for anywhere near that price.



toggletoggle post by Conservationist  at Aug 22,2008 3:34pm
the_reverend said[orig][quote]
that's basically exactly what I said. I would get a netbook... but there isn't one with battery life/options that I want.
7"screen, multi-touch support, 60gb hd, tablet form factor, 5hrs battery, and either a CF reader or 7-in-1 reader.


Agreed.

I'd like something with at least 32gb SSD, longer batter, slightly larger screen (10") and some real-life testing under its belt (e.g. not so new, as most of these designs are).



toggletoggle post by ConquerTheBaphomet  at Aug 22,2008 7:39pm
I definitely want hard drive space, good sound and graphics cards, good memory and a big screen.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Aug 22,2008 8:05pm
then get that one is what you want. minus the "good graphics" since it's an integrated card. I just looked back and saw the laptop I links. that is a really slickdeal.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Aug 22,2008 8:08pm
Conservationist said[orig][quote]
the_reverend said[orig][quote]
that's basically exactly what I said. I would get a netbook... but there isn't one with battery life/options that I want.
7"screen, multi-touch support, 60gb hd, tablet form factor, 5hrs battery, and either a CF reader or 7-in-1 reader.


Agreed.

I'd like something with at least 32gb SSD, longer batter, slightly larger screen (10") and some real-life testing under its belt (e.g. not so new, as most of these designs are).


Agreed. none of these things are tested at all. I'm going to see if Gigabyte will send me a sample unit to try. good thing is I can always replace the HD with an SSD when the price on a 1.8" x 128GB comes out. 7" is fine for me. I just want emails, surfing, and reviewing pictures during a concert.



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Aug 22,2008 9:11pm
Apple could benefit from not trying so hard to make their computers into a fashion statement.

PCs could benefit from not being inferior garbage with operating systems that run as well as the Rwandan government.



toggletoggle post by xanonymousx at Aug 22,2008 10:14pm
get what you want.... BUT you will not get better service on your computer if you get anything other than a mac, apple care has saved me three times now.



toggletoggle post by MarkFuckingRichards  at Aug 22,2008 10:37pm
Xanonymousx, which Apple store do you work at? If it's the one in the Rockingham mall in Salem, there is a good chance you'll be seeing me around there.



toggletoggle post by xanonymousx at Aug 22,2008 10:46pm
yep. thats where i work



toggletoggle post by Phillip  at Aug 22,2008 10:49pm
I switched to apple over a year ago
I dont think Ill ever go back

plus
best customer service ever!



toggletoggle post by MarkFuckingRichards  at Aug 22,2008 11:06pm
xanonymousx said[orig][quote]
yep. thats where i work


I will expose your identity! MUAHAHAHAHA!

I was in there on Wednesday with a Putrid Pile hoodie on. Were you there then?



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Aug 22,2008 11:37pm
I love that mac store... the friggin 30" LCDs are amazing.



toggletoggle post by xanonymousx at Aug 23,2008 7:33pm edited Aug 23,2008 9:53pm
MarkFuckingRichards said[orig][quote]
xanonymousx said[orig][quote]
yep. thats where i work


I will expose your identity! MUAHAHAHAHA!

I was in there on Wednesday with a Putrid Pile hoodie on. Were you there then?


that was my day off i believe...
if i saw you there i would have said something about the kick ass hoodie...
i work in the back anyway.
where i was playing some TYAG the other day.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Aug 23,2008 8:33pm
I work in the back too.
winkwink



toggletoggle post by xanonymousx at Aug 23,2008 9:45pm
haha
ps working on your birthday sucks ass.



toggletoggle post by xanonymousx at Aug 23,2008 9:46pm
CTB you never said what laptop you would be interested in getting?
the regular macbook?
or a macbook pro?
or do you want an iMac?



toggletoggle post by ConquerTheBaphomet  at Aug 23,2008 10:05pm
Macbook Pro



toggletoggle post by Conservationist  at Aug 24,2008 12:54am
xmikex said[orig][quote]
Apple could benefit from not trying so hard to make their computers into a fashion statement.


It's what makes them emo.




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