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returntothepit >> discuss >> Opinions on the Manny crisis by aril on Jul 30,2008 3:21pm
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toggletoggle post by aril at Jul 30,2008 3:21pm
Get rid of him?
Tell him to STFU?
Give him 20mil?

What will happen? The never ending soap opera just wrote itself another chapter.



toggletoggle post by mortalis  at Jul 30,2008 3:48pm
keep him for the remainder of this year. his numbers are down compared to what he has done in the past, but everyone's numbers in the AL are down. he's #5 in the league in OPS, that's pretty fucking good. he's also tied for second most games played on the team, which many media folks seem to forget to mention. the ownership won't pick up the option, but i doubt they'll actually trade him, either. they wouldn't succeed in the playoffs without him.



toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Jul 30,2008 4:09pm
keep him til the end of the year and try to win the world series, then don't pick up his option. enough is enough. the guy is a great hitter, but he's a space cadet with a horrible attitude.



toggletoggle post by BSV at Jul 30,2008 4:11pm
give him a bonus everytime he actually runs out a grounder.



toggletoggle post by ConquerTheBaphomet  at Jul 30,2008 4:16pm
Manny, for the most part, picked up the slack when Ortiz was out of the lineup. They should keep him until he retires.



toggletoggle post by guy at Jul 30,2008 4:27pm
not worth it next year cuz of all the constant problems, but for this year we cant get rid if him cuz of his impact on the offense



toggletoggle post by DomesticTerror at Jul 30,2008 5:31pm
we should stop thinking about getting rid of someone and start thinking about adding someone. Angels and Yankees have improved and we've done nothing. Everyone is so caught up in being sick of manny being manny that they're ignoring the fact that our bullpen is and has been a serious problem. and for the record, i've been sick of manny for 3 years, but there's nothing we can do about it.



toggletoggle post by W3 nli at Jul 30,2008 5:37pm
doods a manchild with an amazing bat when he's not acting out, i think they should just pick up the remainder of his contract and get him happy since theyll never be able to get what they feel they deserve for his talents.

i'd rather keep him around and deal with the manchild then let the Yankees grab him.

hi remember Johnny Damon, also this is for Mike whats up with the chances for Tampa Bay or the Yankees picking up Barry Bonds i keep hearing that shit on the radio.



toggletoggle post by W3 nli at Jul 30,2008 5:45pm
Manny to Marlins?

According to SI.com, the Marlins and Phillies have expressed interest in Manny Ramirez. If the Marlins are looking to make a big splash-move, this would certainly create a tidal wave of interest for a team looking to boost attendance and gather more support for their new stadium deal, which right now is being held up in a lawsuit. It's not uncommon for the Marlins to express interest in major impact players. In years past, they quietly explored aquiring Roger Clemens, when the Rocket was weighing a return to the Yankees. A couple of years ago, when Washington was dangling Alfonso Soriano, the Marlins also entered the conversations. How realistic would a Ramirez trade be? Perhaps it is nothing more than inquiring. According to Baseball Prospectus, a source says outfielder Jeremy Hermida and pitching prospect Jeff Allison would be headed to Boston for Manny. The Marlins are certainly working the phones, and Ramirez would be the shocker of shockers, considering Florida's $22 million payroll. The Marlins have Josh Willingham in left, and he isn't an realistic option to play right field, where Hermida plays. But Cody Ross could move from center to right, and Alfredo Amezaga could play center, should the Marlins be daring with a Ramirez trade.



toggletoggle post by W3 nli at Jul 30,2008 5:49pm
and WTF Trot Nixon is on the Mets, goodlord.



toggletoggle post by Dankill at Jul 30,2008 7:26pm
Unless, you can get something really worth while, you might not be able to trade him.



toggletoggle post by Dankill at Jul 30,2008 9:41pm
Update: word on the street is the Marlins deal might include the Pirates. We send Manny to Florida for Jeremy Hermida, power hitting outfield prospect Mike Stanton and either young pitchers Jeff Allison or Ryan Tucker. Then us sending Hermida to Pittsburgh for Jason Bay.



toggletoggle post by W3 nli at Jul 30,2008 10:25pm
ugh.



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toggletoggle post by RustyPS  at Jul 31,2008 8:41am
Dankill said[orig][quote]
Update: word on the street is the Marlins deal might include the Pirates. We send Manny to Florida for Jeremy Hermida, power hitting outfield prospect Mike Stanton and either young pitchers Jeff Allison or Ryan Tucker. Then us sending Hermida to Pittsburgh for Jason Bay.


I could honestly go for that. Bay, while he's no Manny, is a very good player with solid power numbers. Plus, one thing the Sox lack is power in the minors, and Stanton helps add to that.

I just worry about Ortiz getting pitched around.



toggletoggle post by aril at Jul 31,2008 9:42am
To avoid losing the habit of striking weird solutions to problems, Ramirez suggested a change that would solve two issues at the moment.

"I should go to Green Bay straight up and they should send Brett Favre to Boston. That will end two soap operas at the same time," Ramirez told Rojas.

hahaha



toggletoggle post by xanonymousx at Jul 31,2008 10:07am
Manny is an ass clown.
He does not need our money.



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Jul 31,2008 10:11am
There's three things that people love when it comes to Boston sports.

1. Building band wagons.
2. Riding the shit out of them.
3. Forgetting all about them later.

The Boston sports media loves to jump all over it's players, and coaches any chance it gets, and people love to get Heineken rage over it. We've put up with a lot from Manny, but in all honesty Manny has put up with a lot from us in return.



toggletoggle post by mortalis  at Jul 31,2008 10:14am
RustyPS said[orig][quote]

I just worry about Ortiz getting pitched around.


one of my main concerns, as well. they've been our generation's ruth and gehrig, breaking them up probably isn't going to be good for david.



toggletoggle post by mortalis  at Jul 31,2008 10:15am
xmikex said[orig][quote]

1. Building band wagons.


omg red sox nation



toggletoggle post by aril at Jul 31,2008 10:20am
we've given him 2 WS rings. let's see if he can get that on another team.



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Jul 31,2008 10:22am
W3%20nli said[orig][quote]

i'd rather keep him around and deal with the manchild then let the Yankees grab him.

hi remember Johnny Damon, also this is for Mike whats up with the chances for Tampa Bay or the Yankees picking up Barry Bonds i keep hearing that shit on the radio.


Johnny Damon... who's Johnny Damon? Oh you mean that guy that jumped ship from the Sox because he was 100% certain he could win another championship with the Yankees?

Damon's averages the last two seasons with the Yankees:
2006 - .285
2007 - .270
He hasn't even had over 600 at-bats in either of those seasons. Johnny Damon is a bust for the Yankees.

I don't see anything concrete about the Rays looking to sign Barry Bonds other than their GM has acknowledged talking about the possibility of signing him. So who knows.



toggletoggle post by Corpus_Colostomy at Jul 31,2008 10:24am
get rid of him.

tabula rasa.



toggletoggle post by RustyPS  at Jul 31,2008 10:28am
Damon leaving wasn't a disaster in the long run. Neither was Pedro or Lowe or Nomar.

While Manny doesn't hit like he used, he's still one of the best and most feared hitters in the league. But sometimes enough is enough.



toggletoggle post by Corpus_Colostomy at Jul 31,2008 10:37am
i think you gotta let him go cause he wants to go.

In soviet russa, TEAM PLAYS YOU!

manny is headed towards the twilight of his career imo..to an NL team as well.
it really works out best for him and us. i hate how sentimental we bosox fans are.

leaving on a gangrenous appendage is a recipe for disaster. at some point i think ya gotta sever ties accordingly and with dignity...this seems like the right window of opportunity to do so with a shoe in hall of famer.
and for the record i think this dood was 100 % misunderstood in this town.



toggletoggle post by brian_dc  at Jul 31,2008 10:39am
I like Manny a lot. It's pretty faggoty the way this is all going down.



toggletoggle post by aril at Jul 31,2008 10:42am
The guy gets non-stop crap from everyone every year. that year he last minute opted out to play in the all star game, last year when he posed after he hit that homerun in the playoffs, and this year with this crap.
The highlight of his career here IMO was when he became a citizen and ran around with the american flag. that was funny



toggletoggle post by oscarct  at Jul 31,2008 11:58am
fuck boston



toggletoggle post by scumfuck at Jul 31,2008 12:52pm
well they've only got about 3 hours left if they are going to do anything, personally i don't think that they will but who knows



toggletoggle post by W3 nli at Jul 31,2008 1:53pm
yeah the Marlins are pushing for more then they deserve to get and i think thats whats now killing the deal.

they want manny, money and two prospects fuck all that noise.



toggletoggle post by aril at Jul 31,2008 1:54pm
update: manny has been traded to the yankees

full disclosure soon



toggletoggle post by DomesticTerror at Jul 31,2008 1:55pm
don't care if manny stays or goes. i just want pitching dammit.



toggletoggle post by DomesticTerror at Jul 31,2008 1:59pm
aril said[orig][quote]
update: manny has been traded to the yankees

full disclosure soon


like that would happen



toggletoggle post by aril at Jul 31,2008 2:06pm
yea, i was 100% joking



toggletoggle post by DomesticTerror at Jul 31,2008 2:14pm
you still made me check. i admit defeat.



toggletoggle post by DomesticTerror at Jul 31,2008 4:08pm
jason bay to the devil rays. i'm ready for football.



toggletoggle post by FuckIsMySignature at Jul 31,2008 4:14pm
fuck shit balls



toggletoggle post by aril at Jul 31,2008 4:21pm
Oh well, he'll still produce. (that is, unless he fakes an injury again)



toggletoggle post by DomesticTerror at Jul 31,2008 4:25pm edited Jul 31,2008 4:27pm
nesn just reported that manny has been traded. mlb says it's to the dodgers.
in b4 Nomar!



toggletoggle post by DomesticTerror at Jul 31,2008 4:26pm
i have to admit when i heard that my heart kinda dropped.



toggletoggle post by DomesticTerror at Jul 31,2008 4:34pm
Bay is coming to Boston! thoughts?



toggletoggle post by DomesticTerror at Jul 31,2008 4:36pm
The Red Sox traded Manny Ramirez to the Dodgers late Thursday afternoon, SI.com has learned.

Jason Bay is headed to Boston as part of the deal, SI.com has learned. The Pirates will get four minor leaguers in the three-way trade.

The Red Sox went back-and-forth with the Marlins and Dodgers as the 4 p.m. ET deadline approached. Ramirez said earlier today, as first reported by SI.com, that he would accept a trade to any team.

The announcement will be made in conjunction with a World Baseball Classic announcement at Dodger Stadium shortly.



toggletoggle post by brian_dc  at Jul 31,2008 4:37pm
lol....traded for one dude who's just hitting 30 years old

lol



toggletoggle post by SkinSandwich at Jul 31,2008 4:39pm
Fuck him. great hitter, but I hope he ends up with the marinaers and then sees the Sox win it all. ego on his part sucks the cock.



toggletoggle post by DomesticTerror at Jul 31,2008 4:42pm
i kinda like this deal. 22 homers so far this year, and that hitting in pittsburgh. imagine what he'll do in Fenway?



toggletoggle post by gay at Jul 31,2008 4:44pm
jason bay? thats IT??



toggletoggle post by brian_dc  at Jul 31,2008 4:44pm
SERIOUSLY



toggletoggle post by DomesticTerror at Jul 31,2008 4:45pm
i wonder what torre's thinking right now.



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Jul 31,2008 5:33pm
This trade sucks. This is fucking Manny Ramirez we're talking about. We couldn't even squeeze a pitcher out of this deal to go along with Bay. Yet again Theo chokes at the trade deadline. This fucking sucks.

Manny I'll miss you, and when we lose in the ALDS for the next 4 years so will everyone else.



toggletoggle post by Mess at Jul 31,2008 5:34pm
manny's a lazy nigg nogg. he's got a powerful swing but he doesn't run for shit.
btw. i know nothing about baseball



toggletoggle post by RustyPS@school at Jul 31,2008 5:35pm
I like the deal. Bay is very, very good, is just hitting his prime, and the Sox have him for another year after this at a much lower price than Manny. That could allow them to go after Sheets and/or Sabathia in the offseason.

Hansen wasn't going to turn it around here, which is a shame because for all the things the Sox do to protect their young pitchers, they totally went the opposite way for him for some reason. I think maybe with another team he'll do well, but here, he wasn't going to turn it around IMO.

I really like Moss, but I'm not upset he's leaving. I was actually more upset that they gave up Dave Murphy in the Gagne trade.

I'm just happy the Sox didn't give up Michael Bowden or Daniel Bard in any trade. Well, that, and Manny's gone.



toggletoggle post by FuckIsMySignature at Jul 31,2008 5:38pm
DomesticTerror said[orig][quote]
i wonder what torre's thinking right now.


"He's one of the best four or five hitters in baseball," Dodgers manager Joe Torre said on Wednesday. "I like him, yet he marches to his own drummer. I had him in the All-Star Game. It doesn't make sense to me [that he would be available]."




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