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returntothepit >> discuss >> Revolution by y_ddraig_goch on Jul 22,2008 12:22pm
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toggletoggle post by y_ddraig_goch  at Jul 22,2008 12:22pm
needs to happen

I'm talking no political agendas...just middle and lower class americans taking to the streets and overthrowing the slave economy that keeps us drowning in feces and debt.

If we don't start know the cattle will be too docile by the time they bring us all to slaughter.

anyone who thinks they have a decent life is just living in the dark...compare your life to that of the politicians and ceos of companies that make their living off of extorting you.

the first thing that has to go is the bank system.

does it make sense that you put in money and someone taking out money gets your money and the bank profits off of interest from money you put in?



toggletoggle post by FuckIsMySignature at Jul 22,2008 12:26pm
y_ddraig_goch said[orig][quote]


the first thing that has to go is the bank system.



Credit Unions FTW!



toggletoggle post by pam   at Jul 22,2008 12:27pm
I'm in.



toggletoggle post by y_ddraig_goch  at Jul 22,2008 12:50pm
Anyone who doesn't see the world of man coming to a halt very soon is blind

poisons everywhere, cancers everywhere, extinctions at a rate more rapid than any other time sans the end of the dinosaurs.


watch this and tell me it doesn't hit a chord of despair


bennyhillifier




toggletoggle post by FuckIsMySignature at Jul 22,2008 12:53pm
it doesnt seem like you have an actual plan for action here.



toggletoggle post by y_ddraig_goch  at Jul 22,2008 12:54pm
the first two minutes are boring, the good stuff is after...the collages of war and famine, disease, death



toggletoggle post by y_ddraig_goch  at Jul 22,2008 12:56pm
FuckIsMySignature said[orig][quote]
it doesnt seem like you have an actual plan for action here.


no need, planning is giving the initiative to those who have suffocated rebellions for hundreds of years.

needs to be something like independent towns rising, awakening.

it starts in the home and then takes to the street.

I've got plenty of time to figure out what I will do, what part I will play.

The revolution has already started, it's in it's infancy... people are outraged, beginning to realize what the government is doing...they're starting out by disseminating knowledge and literature...much like the early days of the 1st American revolution.



toggletoggle post by Conservationist  at Jul 22,2008 1:02pm
y_ddraig_goch said[orig][quote]
I'm talking no political agendas...just middle and lower class americans taking to the streets and overthrowing the slave economy that keeps us drowning in feces and debt.


No thanks.

I would rather not have the uninformed ruling over us... if people are "lower class," it's because they've fucked up hugely in life.

This place is awash in opportunity.

The problem isn't the rich, but the slave state that favors the impoverished, minorities, disabled, gender-defensive, etc. at the expense of our best.

Society is its own doom.

I don't want to save most of these people. They're fucking useless. I want the smart ones to break away and watch third world USA die on its own.



toggletoggle post by FuckIsMySignature at Jul 22,2008 1:03pm
"independent uprisings" will only be seen as terrorist acts by the government and will be quickly taken care of. you know how this shit works.



toggletoggle post by Yeti at Jul 22,2008 1:32pm
could have, would have, should have, all the words in the world aren't going to make it a reality.



toggletoggle post by y_ddraig_goch  at Jul 22,2008 1:32pm
the third world didn't become that way on it's own.

do you think everyone has a chance to rise to the top?

how many opportunities are lost on the poor and starving, who knows how many scientists, writers, musicians, poets have been among them.

I think that the Lucifer character will bring the light and the lower classes will become a powerful force of hardworking and honest people.

people are the way they are know because of the conditions they live in, the chances for success are very small when you spend your life trying to fill your belly or your family's belly.



toggletoggle post by FuckIsMySignature at Jul 22,2008 1:43pm
what exactly do you expect people to do to initiate this revolution you speak of?



toggletoggle post by Infidelis on faptop at Jul 22,2008 1:45pm
Im rich as hell!



toggletoggle post by aril at Jul 22,2008 1:56pm
just complete chaos - take to the streets and do whatever. think of the Katrina aftermath but on a much larger scale but with more white people.
that would be awesome. i can't wait to play a metal show in a post-apocalyptic atmosphere with the steampunks, crustpunks, and metalheads.



toggletoggle post by y_ddraig_goch  at Jul 22,2008 2:08pm
FuckIsMySignature said[orig][quote]
what exactly do you expect people to do to initiate this revolution you speak of?


what they did in Russia, what they did in Cuba, what they tried to do in America in the early 1900's.

there is already a revolution it just hasn't gone full scale.




toggletoggle post by Conservationist  at Jul 22,2008 2:34pm
y_ddraig_goch said[orig][quote]
the third world didn't become that way on it's own.


Yeah, it did. Look at the average IQs of different nations and how far along they are. The third world is what happens when no one is functional.

Sure, it's easier to blame "oppressors," but that's just denial. We need to make sure the USA doesn't become third world, and I'm not talking about immigration (necessarily) here...




toggletoggle post by Conservationist  at Jul 22,2008 2:34pm
y_ddraig_goch said[orig][quote]
FuckIsMySignature said[orig][quote]
what exactly do you expect people to do to initiate this revolution you speak of?


what they did in Russia, what they did in Cuba, what they tried to do in America in the early 1900's.

there is already a revolution it just hasn't gone full scale.



French Revolution and Russian revolution both left useless husks of nations behind.

Are you sure you want that? Really?!!?



toggletoggle post by aril at Jul 22,2008 2:41pm
What we need to do, is prepare for China's uprising. Our "empire" is dying, and I don't think there's too much we can do to fix it at this point.



toggletoggle post by Yeti at Jul 22,2008 3:22pm
its certainly easier to talk about what should happen on a message board than it is to do anything about it.

"i'd rather let a 1000 guilty men go free than chase after them"



toggletoggle post by immortal13 at Jul 22,2008 3:39pm
Let's just start a zombie apocalypse.



toggletoggle post by Conservationist  at Jul 22,2008 4:43pm
Or just sodomize the weak.



toggletoggle post by Kadooganglia at Jul 23,2008 6:39am
Conservationist said[orig][quote]
y_ddraig_goch said[orig][quote]
the third world didn't become that way on it's own.


Yeah, it did. Look at the average IQs of different nations and how far along they are. The third world is what happens when no one is functional.

Sure, it's easier to blame "oppressors," but that's just denial. We need to make sure the USA doesn't become third world, and I'm not talking about immigration (necessarily) here...



The third world is also what happens when people go uneducated of the basic principles of the subconcious, human decency that seems to be NOWHERE right now. Why not UPDATE THE FUCKING EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM in a way that works, that actually TEACHES people what they want to know, when they want to know it? I'd like to see the day when a 12 year old with a high school diploma isn't something out of the ordinary. Teach/learn to one's own abilities. Will everyone learn equally? No. Do they now? No. I think this'd be a more effective way to "weed out the weak" for lack of a better term.

The college-educated who've been trained to further the workforce/economy (no thanks) can eat shit.

Who do you think is keeping the schools (and people) in the ignorant state they're in? The same "elite" who want to see people stay in the slums.






toggletoggle post by Conservationist  at Jul 23,2008 8:25am
Kadooganglia said[orig][quote]
Conservationist said[orig][quote]
y_ddraig_goch said[orig][quote]
the third world didn't become that way on it's own.


Yeah, it did. Look at the average IQs of different nations and how far along they are. The third world is what happens when no one is functional.

Sure, it's easier to blame "oppressors," but that's just denial. We need to make sure the USA doesn't become third world, and I'm not talking about immigration (necessarily) here...



The third world is also what happens when people go uneducated of the basic principles of the subconcious, human decency that seems to be NOWHERE right now. Why not UPDATE THE FUCKING EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM in a way that works, that actually TEACHES people what they want to know, when they want to know it? I'd like to see the day when a 12 year old with a high school diploma isn't something out of the ordinary. Teach/learn to one's own abilities. Will everyone learn equally? No. Do they now? No. I think this'd be a more effective way to "weed out the weak" for lack of a better term.

The college-educated who've been trained to further the workforce/economy (no thanks) can eat shit.

Who do you think is keeping the schools (and people) in the ignorant state they're in? The same "elite" who want to see people stay in the slums.


While I agree wholeheartedly, you cannot improve intelligence through education. The third world, even if run through Harvard, would remain the third world. That being said, the American educational system is dogshit. A high school degree once meant something. Now it's like a post count



toggletoggle post by RustyPS  at Jul 23,2008 9:13am
Kadooganglia said[orig][quote]
Conservationist said[orig][quote]
y_ddraig_goch said[orig][quote]
the third world didn't become that way on it's own.


Yeah, it did. Look at the average IQs of different nations and how far along they are. The third world is what happens when no one is functional.

Sure, it's easier to blame "oppressors," but that's just denial. We need to make sure the USA doesn't become third world, and I'm not talking about immigration (necessarily) here...



The third world is also what happens when people go uneducated of the basic principles of the subconcious, human decency that seems to be NOWHERE right now. Why not UPDATE THE FUCKING EDUCATIONAL SYSTEM in a way that works, that actually TEACHES people what they want to know, when they want to know it? I'd like to see the day when a 12 year old with a high school diploma isn't something out of the ordinary. Teach/learn to one's own abilities. Will everyone learn equally? No. Do they now? No. I think this'd be a more effective way to "weed out the weak" for lack of a better term.

The college-educated who've been trained to further the workforce/economy (no thanks) can eat shit.

Who do you think is keeping the schools (and people) in the ignorant state they're in? The same "elite" who want to see people stay in the slums.





Another educational flaw is tests. People can learn strategies on how to take tests and do well on them without ever learning the material. They pass classes without ever getting a real understanding of the subject. Then, they go into the field ill-prepared for their job because they focused more on passing rather than actually learning.



toggletoggle post by y_ddraig_goch  at Jul 23,2008 4:23pm
I honestly think the only solution is mass murder.

kill off 90 percent of the world.

but earth is already planning on that...look forward to more outrageous weather...it's what happens when the oceans warm up and currents become weaker.



toggletoggle post by NippleViolater   at Jul 23,2008 4:41pm
Nice, a revolutionary who can't fucking spell and an idiot right winger who believes that some races are just inherently inferior.

Stupidity wins!



toggletoggle post by y_ddraig_goch  at Jul 23,2008 5:19pm
where did I spell wrong my meng? I have firefox so it's quite hard for me to spell wrong.



toggletoggle post by NippleViolater   at Jul 23,2008 5:45pm
The word "know" and "now" are very different.



toggletoggle post by Conservationist  at Jul 23,2008 5:48pm
y_ddraig_goch said[orig][quote]
kill off 90 percent of the world.


or just let them die of their own incompetence. We need some way to trim the herd here in the industrialized west too.



toggletoggle post by y_ddraig_goch  at Jul 23,2008 6:49pm
NippleViolater said[orig][quote]
The word "know" and "now" are very different.


whoops, that was a mental blip.

but to be a jerk about it, it would be considered a grammar mistake, not a spelling mistake.



toggletoggle post by y_ddraig_goch  at Jul 23,2008 6:50pm
Conservationist said[orig][quote]
y_ddraig_goch said[orig][quote]
kill off 90 percent of the world.


or just let them die of their own incompetence. We need some way to trim the herd here in the industrialized west too.


people mate too fast... it's ok though, fertility is going down in males.



toggletoggle post by FuckIsMySignature at Jul 23,2008 6:57pm
y_ddraig_goch said[orig][quote]
Conservationist said[orig][quote]
y_ddraig_goch said[orig][quote]
kill off 90 percent of the world.


or just let them die of their own incompetence. We need some way to trim the herd here in the industrialized west too.


people mate too fast... it's ok though, fertility is going down in males.


thank you marijuana. i must be shooting blanks know... hehe.



toggletoggle post by SW at Jul 24,2008 1:47pm
FuckIsMySignature said[orig][quote]
"independent uprisings" will only be seen as terrorist acts by the government and will be quickly taken care of. you know how this shit works.


This man is correct. Half-ass revolutionaries vs military trained professional killers w/ a lot more artillery = elimination of dissent. I wish it wasn't true, but there's no way around the truth.



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