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returntothepit >> discuss >> Final Fantasy 3 (6) Appresh by aril on Jul 10,2008 1:28pm
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toggletoggle post by aril at Jul 10,2008 1:28pm
This game is an absolute masterpiece. I've probably played and beaten it 15 times since it came out in 1994. The music, characters, gameplay, depth, world... everything about it is awesome.
If you were too caught up in FF7 due to it becoming so popular, and you haven't played FF6, I highly suggest you play it, as it is best of the series IMO.



toggletoggle post by Martins   at Jul 10,2008 1:40pm
I've played through it 3 times and it rules. My favorite still remains 10. I love 7 and 6 but 10 put me in a place that neither did...though when Aeris dies is probably the most touching videogame moment ever.



toggletoggle post by xanonymousx at Jul 10,2008 1:43pm
is that the one with the machines? or is that the one with the where you start out with the chocovo?



toggletoggle post by Martins   at Jul 10,2008 1:44pm
You start off FF5 with a Chocobo near a meteor crash site and you start off FF6 on sweet ass-robots.



toggletoggle post by xanonymousx at Jul 10,2008 1:49pm
yep ok i got confused, i did play a translated FFIII on a rom
FFVI is a good game. all the FF games are great
i haven't played a FF game since X though.



toggletoggle post by Martins   at Jul 10,2008 1:53pm
XII is pretty good. HUGE HUGE HUGE game.



toggletoggle post by aril at Jul 10,2008 1:57pm
I'm not a huge fan of any FFs past 9-- the last one for PS1.




toggletoggle post by Martins   at Jul 10,2008 1:58pm
Oh come on. You can put your FF elitism aside and enjoy the incredible game that X was.



toggletoggle post by aril at Jul 10,2008 2:02pm
Don't know - I never owned a PS2 or 3 for that matter, but I've played X. Once the characters started to look like girls and the game was all petite-looking and whathaveyou, it was a turn off. I'm sure I'd appreciate it, but I'm such an old school gamer that I'd definitely prefer all the FFs prior to it.
I just love any game within the 8-16bit era.



toggletoggle post by Martins   at Jul 10,2008 2:03pm
I do agree that secret to amazing RPGs lies in being 16 bit but I still think that the new games are gonna rule.
You've clearly played Chrono Cross. That game leaned towards petite-looking as you say but it still kicked more ass than almost any PS1 RPG...save for FF7 and a few others.



toggletoggle post by aril at Jul 10,2008 2:06pm
I liked Chrono Cross but I get shit all the time for saying I was disappointed! I LOVED ChronoTrigger and I felt that Cross wasn't a good follow up. My favorite PS1 RPG are Wild Arms and Xenogears. Xenogears my favorite by far though. I also loved its allusions to Christianity and the slight mock of religion that it hinted towards.



toggletoggle post by ouchdrummer   at Jul 10,2008 2:13pm
I loved ffII, and ffIII, VII was real cool, but not as good as it's 16 bit predecessors. Anyone ever try the shining force series for the genesis?It was a lot like the FFtactics games...but much better. How about the landstalker game for genesis (I still play both of these about once a year) it was like zelda but 3d.



toggletoggle post by aril at Jul 10,2008 2:15pm
Shining Force 1 is my favorite game of all time.
That's why I've recently been getting into Fire Emblem for GBA - it's a lot like the SF games.



toggletoggle post by aril at Jul 10,2008 2:16pm
PS:
You can't get any more metal than DarkSol



toggletoggle post by NuclearWinter at Jul 10,2008 3:09pm
The last classic Final Fantasy game, and also my favorite. I still have the poster that came with the cartridge on my wall -- thirteen years later.



toggletoggle post by aril at Jul 10,2008 3:13pm
Honestly, when your whole party splits up and you're stranded on the island with Terra, it's such a feeling of lonliness and despair. It's one of the few video games out there that evokes those kind of feelings inside of me.



toggletoggle post by Martins   at Jul 10,2008 3:15pm
aril said[orig][quote]
Honestly, when your whole party splits up and you're stranded on the island with Terra, it's such a feeling of lonliness and despair. It's one of the few video games out there that evokes those kind of feelings inside of me.


Yeah that whole part of the game is pretty emotionally driven.



toggletoggle post by NuclearWinter at Jul 10,2008 3:17pm
R.I.P. - Old man in the yellow rain coat.



toggletoggle post by aril at Jul 10,2008 3:22pm
haha.
Kefka is also one of the best enemies in any video game I think. Not only is he a clown, his music is awesome and he's evil to the core.
Ultros the octopus is pretty funny too.



toggletoggle post by Martins   at Jul 10,2008 3:25pm
FF6 had fucking great music but I really feel that Kefka wasn't the best of villains. He didn't feel evil. He just felt like a goofy guy with a goofy way of getting what he wants.
Ultros did rule tho.



toggletoggle post by aril at Jul 10,2008 3:30pm
I don't think Kefka holds a candle to Magus in CT. When you first see Magus in CT it pwns. And the fact that he then joins you a little bit later is awesome, too.



toggletoggle post by aril at Jul 10,2008 3:33pm
There used to be an Ultros fan club or something. Last I remember it was ultros.com



toggletoggle post by BobNOMAAMRooney nli at Jul 10,2008 4:09pm
Is this the one with a brooding amnesiac protagonist?



toggletoggle post by BobNOMAAMRooney nli at Jul 10,2008 4:13pm
Or is it the one where you spend the first half of the game fighting one antagonist but then it turns out he wasn't all that bad and there's an even greater threat that's going to destroy the world?



toggletoggle post by aril at Jul 10,2008 4:21pm
It's the one that deals with an Empire seeking dominance over the world, with one specific guy (Kefka) secretly having his own goals in mind.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jul 10,2008 5:34pm
I almost cried when everyone came back together in the end. all hail cid!



toggletoggle post by BobNOMAAMRooney nli at Jul 11,2008 1:43am
aril said[orig][quote]
It's the one that deals with an Empire seeking dominance over the world, with one specific guy (Kefka) secretly having his own goals in mind.


BobNOMAAMRooney%20nli said[orig][quote]
Or is it the one where you spend the first half of the game fighting one antagonist (Emperor Ghestahl) but then it turns out he wasn't all that bad and there's an even greater threat (Kefka) that's going to destroy the world?


A simple "yes" would have worked there.




toggletoggle post by BobNOMAAMRooney nli at Jul 11,2008 1:44am



toggletoggle post by craigforacurse  at Jul 11,2008 2:50am
aril said[orig][quote]
I liked Chrono Cross but I get shit all the time for saying I was disappointed! I LOVED ChronoTrigger and I felt that Cross wasn't a good follow up.


chrono trigger was awesome and chrono cross just wasnt that good in comparison. i really liked illusion of gaia for super nintendo.



toggletoggle post by aril at Jul 11,2008 9:19am
Well, there's many antagonists. I wouldn't say Emperor Ghestahl plays a huge role in the game until about midway through. Kefka is always the main antagonist, but you find out his real motives with the espers later on.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Oct 18,2011 10:19am
Best game of all time.



toggletoggle post by NuclearWinter at Oct 18,2011 11:39am



toggletoggle post by i_am_lazy at Oct 18,2011 12:21pm
You bumped this so I could post this, didn't you Jim.

If not, fuck it.

http://www.tonefinder.com/index.php?section=id&value=11854



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Oct 18,2011 1:40pm
Indeed.



toggletoggle post by aaron_michael  at Oct 18,2011 2:01pm
Cid(s) FTW



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Oct 18,2011 2:42pm
arilliusbm said[orig][quote]
Best game of all time.


related:






toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Oct 18,2011 2:44pm
Terra + Locke < Nut Eater + Butz



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Oct 18,2011 2:45pm
Galuf was a pedo.



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Oct 18,2011 2:58pm
You don't have to tell me, I'm already sold on the game.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Oct 18,2011 3:03pm
I always LOLed at "Butz"



toggletoggle post by arktouros at Oct 18,2011 3:03pm
lol



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Oct 18,2011 3:09pm
Related nerdery content:

I was part of an AOL roleplaying clan/ group back in the day. We all had to be moogles and had names. We wrote fanfic about Narshe, and had fake moogle sex.
Cool story, bro.



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Oct 18,2011 3:20pm
"fake" moogle sex



toggletoggle post by arktouros at Oct 18,2011 3:21pm
haha, i remember those RP groups. i don't miss chat rooms at all.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Oct 18,2011 3:23pm
So ghey but so 90s..
My old FF screen name: "Kewlmog"



toggletoggle post by i_am_lazy at Oct 19,2011 12:15am
Those RP groups. Holy fuck. I remember an AOL one with Moogle names...but moogle sex? LOL WUT



toggletoggle post by bobnomaamrooney at Oct 19,2011 12:20am
Haha AOL groups, only calling Noobs "Norons" is real.



toggletoggle post by eddienli at Oct 19,2011 3:57am
NuclearWinter said[orig][quote]
R.I.P. - Old man in the yellow rain coat.


If you do it right he can live.



toggletoggle post by eddienli at Oct 19,2011 4:01am
anyone else have a problem with the lich ring not working in the advanced version?

i can nerd out on the game all day. who says ff games have no replay value? i beat this one at least once a year.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Oct 19,2011 7:06am
Edgar or Sabin: which one is the better brother?

Sabin's blitzs become too tedious and ineffective late in the game. Edgar's tools are awesome at first, but also become obsolete late in the game.

Only saving Shadow is real.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Oct 19,2011 7:22am
Relm: What's wrong, lover boy?
Edgar: ...How old are you?
Relm: Ten... Why? Weirdo. I'm going on ahead, okay?
Edgar: Not even a lady yet... Here's hoping you're still around in eight years, kid.



toggletoggle post by Martins   at Oct 19,2011 7:45am
arilliusbm said[orig][quote]
Edgar or Sabin: which one is the better brother?

Sabin's blitzs become too tedious and ineffective late in the game. Edgar's tools are awesome at first, but also become obsolete late in the game.

Only saving Shadow is real.


You kidding me? Edgar and Sabin have been in my final party every time I've played.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Oct 19,2011 7:55am
Sabin can be very powerful based on sheer stength and also with the genji glove equiped. But his blitz techniques are way too tedious.



toggletoggle post by ShadowSD  at Oct 19,2011 9:04am
This game rules. I remember playing a newer one that came out after it and being like WTF is this.

FFIII (going by SNES Numerics, not Japan) is definitely one of the best ever. I wouldn't say I like it more than FFII however, which would probably be my vote for best game ever, even though III has multiple endings and free will and more characters, II did even more with less. It dabbled less in cutesy Chocobos and Moogles and Mogs and other kid stuff/cutesy music, sticking with the grandiose and dark moreso. Most importantly, it was character based more than storyline based, never losing focus in the dramatic tale it was trying to tell. While III was cool in that it made you not as focused on Terra as a central character arc in order to widen the roster and expand the possibilities of the stories, II made the gameplayer identify more with Cecil as the story unfolds, creating a greater emotional investment in the game when things actually would pay off. Therefore, I think II edges out III, but that's more a compliment to II than any criticism of III.

I like to use the TNG/DS9 comparison as a parallel - a case where the earlier simpler character driven version is actually even better than the still very good multiple sustained story arc version that came later.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Oct 19,2011 9:07am edited Oct 19,2011 9:08am
As much as I love Cecil, I'ma have to disagree big time.



toggletoggle post by Old FF Fan at Oct 19,2011 9:10am
I was a Beta Tester of the first Final Fantasy!



toggletoggle post by arktouros at Oct 19,2011 9:20am
using the canonical numbers here - I played IV as a young lad in '92. absolutely loved it and i still remember the village of mist, the two brothers turning to stone to save the party, tellah summoning meteor, definitely one of my all time favorites. but i'm real big on atmosphere and art direction, and the small handful of hours i've played of VI, i just like the presentation better. BUT i can't say shit because i haven't scratched the surface of VI, yet.



toggletoggle post by Old FF Fan at Oct 19,2011 9:26am
All of you false hipster final fantasy fans are trend following sheeple. Final Fantasy IS the FINAL fantasy.



toggletoggle post by ShadowSD  at Oct 19,2011 9:33am
Old%20FF%20Fan said[orig][quote]
I was a Beta Tester of the first Final Fantasy!


Does this mean you killed the first Imp ever? Or did the Imp kill you?



toggletoggle post by ShadowSD  at Oct 19,2011 9:34am
arilliusbm said[orig][quote]
As much as I love Cecil, I'ma have to disagree big time.


To be fair I never took the time to finish FFIII, so maybe that would make me appreciate it more; the ending of FFII is one of its best features.



toggletoggle post by Ultros at Oct 19,2011 9:52am
Old%20FF%20Fan said[orig][quote]
All of you false hipster final fantasy fans are trend following sheeple. Final Fantasy IS the FINAL fantasy.


Silence, knave! You are in the presence of octopus royalty!



toggletoggle post by stench at Oct 19,2011 11:57am
best quote from each game
'you spoony bard' - tellah
'i will create a monument to non-existence' - kefka



toggletoggle post by eddie  at Oct 19,2011 1:35pm
arilliusbm said[orig][quote]
Sabin can be very powerful based on sheer stength and also with the genji glove equiped. But his blitz techniques are way too tedious.




you're using him wrong. He has no armor or good weapons. His best attacks are magic blitz s. you should be raising his magic stat.

i don't know about tedious, but the blitz(s) are over rated. His best one is air blade. yeah you can get bum rushing doing 9999 damage, but you can't choose where it goes. I fucking hate that. Better off getting him to use ultima.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Oct 19,2011 1:38pm
I'm using him wrong because I don't use him that often.



toggletoggle post by eddie  at Oct 19,2011 1:42pm
arilliusbm said[orig][quote]
I'm using him wrong because I don't use him that often.


poor choice of words. inefficiently. games all about balance so you can't really use a character wrong if he/she fits your needs.

Then again its not like the game is hard. you can beat it with an average level of 7.



toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Oct 19,2011 1:44pm
He worked out just fine the way I used him, but he's not my favorite by any means. Ive beat the game numerous times without paying too much attention to developing Sabin.



toggletoggle post by Gogo at Oct 19,2011 4:24pm
This game is an absolute masterpiece. I've probably played and beaten it 15 times since it came out in 1994. The music, characters, gameplay, depth, world... everything about it is awesome.
If you were too caught up in FF7 due to it becoming so popular, and you haven't played FF6, I highly suggest you play it, as it is best of the series IMO.



toggletoggle post by Gogo at Oct 19,2011 4:25pm
I've played through it 3 times and it rules. My favorite still remains 10. I love 7 and 6 but 10 put me in a place that neither did...though when Aeris dies is probably the most touching videogame moment ever.



toggletoggle post by Gogo at Oct 19,2011 4:25pm
is that the one with the machines? or is that the one with the where you start out with the chocovo?



toggletoggle post by Gogo at Oct 19,2011 4:25pm
You start off FF5 with a Chocobo near a meteor crash site and you start off FF6 on sweet ass-robots.



toggletoggle post by Gogo at Oct 19,2011 4:25pm
yep ok i got confused, i did play a translated FFIII on a rom
FFVI is a good game. all the FF games are great
i haven't played a FF game since X though.



toggletoggle post by Gogo at Oct 19,2011 4:25pm
XII is pretty good. HUGE HUGE HUGE game.



toggletoggle post by Gogo at Oct 19,2011 4:25pm
I'm not a huge fan of any FFs past 9-- the last one for PS1.




toggletoggle post by Gogo at Oct 19,2011 4:25pm
Oh come on. You can put your FF elitism aside and enjoy the incredible game that X was.



toggletoggle post by Gogo at Oct 19,2011 4:25pm
Don't know - I never owned a PS2 or 3 for that matter, but I've played X. Once the characters started to look like girls and the game was all petite-looking and whathaveyou, it was a turn off. I'm sure I'd appreciate it, but I'm such an old school gamer that I'd definitely prefer all the FFs prior to it.
I just love any game within the 8-16bit era.



toggletoggle post by Gogo at Oct 19,2011 4:25pm
I do agree that secret to amazing RPGs lies in being 16 bit but I still think that the new games are gonna rule.
You've clearly played Chrono Cross. That game leaned towards petite-looking as you say but it still kicked more ass than almost any PS1 RPG...save for FF7 and a few others.



toggletoggle post by Gogo at Oct 19,2011 4:25pm
I liked Chrono Cross but I get shit all the time for saying I was disappointed! I LOVED ChronoTrigger and I felt that Cross wasn't a good follow up. My favorite PS1 RPG are Wild Arms and Xenogears. Xenogears my favorite by far though. I also loved its allusions to Christianity and the slight mock of religion that it hinted towards.



toggletoggle post by Gogo at Oct 19,2011 4:25pm
I loved ffII, and ffIII, VII was real cool, but not as good as it's 16 bit predecessors. Anyone ever try the shining force series for the genesis?It was a lot like the FFtactics games...but much better. How about the landstalker game for genesis (I still play both of these about once a year) it was like zelda but 3d.



toggletoggle post by Gogo at Oct 19,2011 4:25pm
Shining Force 1 is my favorite game of all time.
That's why I've recently been getting into Fire Emblem for GBA - it's a lot like the SF games.



toggletoggle post by Gogo at Oct 19,2011 4:25pm
PS:
You can't get any more metal than DarkSol



toggletoggle post by Gogo at Oct 19,2011 4:25pm
The last classic Final Fantasy game, and also my favorite. I still have the poster that came with the cartridge on my wall -- thirteen years later.



toggletoggle post by Golgo at Oct 19,2011 4:25pm



toggletoggle post by Gogo at Oct 19,2011 4:26pm
Honestly, when your whole party splits up and you're stranded on the island with Terra, it's such a feeling of lonliness and despair. It's one of the few video games out there that evokes those kind of feelings inside of me.

Yeah that whole part of the game is pretty emotionally driven.



toggletoggle post by Gogo at Oct 19,2011 4:26pm
R.I.P. - Old man in the yellow rain coat.



toggletoggle post by Gogo at Oct 19,2011 4:26pm
haha.
Kefka is also one of the best enemies in any video game I think. Not only is he a clown, his music is awesome and he's evil to the core.
Ultros the octopus is pretty funny too.



toggletoggle post by Gogo at Oct 19,2011 4:26pm
FF6 had fucking great music but I really feel that Kefka wasn't the best of villains. He didn't feel evil. He just felt like a goofy guy with a goofy way of getting what he wants.
Ultros did rule tho.



toggletoggle post by Gogo at Oct 19,2011 4:26pm
I don't think Kefka holds a candle to Magus in CT. When you first see Magus in CT it pwns. And the fact that he then joins you a little bit later is awesome, too.



toggletoggle post by Gogo at Oct 19,2011 4:26pm
There used to be an Ultros fan club or something. Last I remember it was ultros.com



toggletoggle post by Gogo at Oct 19,2011 4:26pm
Is this the one with a brooding amnesiac protagonist?



toggletoggle post by Gogo at Oct 19,2011 4:26pm
Or is it the one where you spend the first half of the game fighting one antagonist but then it turns out he wasn't all that bad and there's an even greater threat that's going to destroy the world?



toggletoggle post by Gogo at Oct 19,2011 4:26pm
It's the one that deals with an Empire seeking dominance over the world, with one specific guy (Kefka) secretly having his own goals in mind.



toggletoggle post by Gogo at Oct 19,2011 4:26pm
I almost cried when everyone came back together in the end. all hail cid!



toggletoggle post by Gogo at Oct 19,2011 4:26pm
It's the one that deals with an Empire seeking dominance over the world, with one specific guy (Kefka) secretly having his own goals in mind.


Or is it the one where you spend the first half of the game fighting one antagonist (Emperor Ghestahl) but then it turns out he wasn't all that bad and there's an even greater threat (Kefka) that's going to destroy the world?

A simple "yes" would have worked there.




toggletoggle post by arilliusbm  at Oct 19,2011 4:45pm
Looks like a Cactaur got to Gogo and killed him. Someone give him a phoenix down.



toggletoggle post by arktouros at Oct 27,2011 2:32pm
STARTING NOW JIM.
...reviving the dread destructive power known as "Magic."



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