Ok, we all know that comma use at the end of a list is optional. Example:

My favorite kinds of ice cream are strawberry, chocolate, and vanilla.

and

My favorite kinds of ice cream are strawberry, chocolate and vanilla.

are both exceptable sentences with no grammer errors. So, which one to you use?

P.S. This poll is the most useless poll ever.

actually it's a funny poll..never is my vote

I voted always. Not using a comma just doesn't make sense in my mind for some reason.

I always use one...
so you can say
I like apples, strawberries and cream, and heinze catsup and cheese
meaning
(apples) && (strawberries U cream) && (heinze catsup U cheese)

if not, precedence is messed up:
apples, strawberries and cream and heinze catsup and cheese
meaning
(apples) && (strawberries U cream U heinze catsup U cheese)??
(apples) && (strawberries U cream U heinze catsup) && cheese??

sorry... though U's should actually be
the set S where there exists a x = y = S

well in that case i would use one...but i still wouldn't vote random..

then again i also spell
check (you get from the bank) = cheque
and favorite = favourite

and you get the drill...

succubus said:

Do you also spell
color = colour
aluminum = aluminium

?

colour and aluminum..but i sometimes say aluminium...heh, then again i thought "Ceramic" was pronounced CHERamic until a few years ago *cough* because i'm a damn foreigner*cough*
ohh retzam...how about this one...and anyone else who feels like replying...

what would you say:
an RTTP newsletter
a RTTP newsletter

i would say AN because even though it starts with the letter R, the way you say it is: ARE..so it sounds like a vowel and hence you use AN and not A

succubus said:

Yeah, I agree with that. It would sound foolish otherwise. How about this one:

My friend and I
Me and my friend

i cheated =)
http://www.askoxford.com/asktheexperts/faq/aboutgrammar/meandi

strategery!

ohh and aaron:
The form an for the indefinite article is used before a spoken vowel sound, regardless of how the written word is spelt. If you say 'an otel' when speaking (which is now often regarded as distinctly old-fashioned), then it may be appropriate for you to write 'an hotel'; but most people say 'hotel' with a sounded 'h', and should write 'a hotel'. By contrast, words such as 'honour', 'heir' or 'hour' in which the 'h' sound is dropped are written with 'an'. Americans who drop the 'h' in 'herb' may also prefer to write 'an herb', but in standard British pronunciation the 'h' is sounded, and 'a herb' is therefore correct in writing. Because 'European' is said with an initial 'y' sound, which counts as a consonantal sound in English speech, it is said (and written) with 'a' not 'an'. An abbreviation such as M.P., which is pronounced em pea, begins with a spoken vowel, and so it is 'an M.P.'


http://www.askoxford.com/asktheexperts/faq/aboutgrammar/hotel?view=uk
there is your proof that retzam, DOM and myself are correct

Dom didn't even post on this thread.

not this one but aaron and i were talking about an RTTP vs a RTTP...and i said AN and then DOM posted AN..i forget the thread...and i told aaron...see..and he asked me to look it up..but i forgot..until now

you both are gay.
I just wanted to see the rule.
we were just debating that thing here.
someone said they had the same argument a few years ago and is looking up the rule for me.

retzam said:

And it doesn't look right.

the_reverend said:
dohhhh aaron
ohh and aaron:
The form an for the indefinite article is used before a spoken vowel sound, regardless of how the written word is spelt. If you say 'an otel' when speaking (which is now often regarded as distinctly old-fashioned), then it may be appropriate for you to write 'an hotel'; but most people say 'hotel' with a sounded 'h', and should write 'a hotel'. By contrast, words such as 'honour', 'heir' or 'hour' in which the 'h' sound is dropped are written with 'an'. Americans who drop the 'h' in 'herb' may also prefer to write 'an herb', but in standard British pronunciation the 'h' is sounded, and 'a herb' is therefore correct in writing. Because 'European' is said with an initial 'y' sound, which counts as a consonantal sound in English speech, it is said (and written) with 'a' not 'an'. An abbreviation such as M.P., which is pronounced em pea, begins with a spoken vowel, and so it is 'an M.P.'


http://www.askoxford.com/asktheexperts/faq/aboutgrammar/hotel?view=uk
there is your proof that retzam, DOM and myself are correct

way to double post...
I said "I just wanted to see the rule."
the debate and the wanting to happened BEFORE reading your post the first time.

i see what you are typing but all i see it
<<blah blah blah>>

and oh yeah: *zing

this thread made my head hurt. thanks.

i have a feeling it's gonna make my ass hurt later on...

oh and i mean that because someone's gonna make me pay for my smartass-ness

i don't wanna hear about anyone's ass. thank you.

not even myne ?
*sniff

I'll probably do what I did last night and accidentally smack you in the back in stead of the ass.. that was a big oopie...

ok, only if it's carina's rear end... but other than
that, no more butt talk.

hahahahaha
yeah
oowwwwwwwwwww

MyDeadDoll said:
woooo does that means when i grope yer b00bs, you smack my ass?

ummm.... what were you being smacked with?

cane, bible.. gijoes..
you know, whatever was around the rack.

"And" takes the place of the comma; comma + and = grammatically incorrect.

that's how i learned it. so yeah. meh.

goooooo DOM!

no, either is correct.
that's how I learned it.

I, never, use, commas, yo.

the_reverend said:

You learned it wrong, pussy.
Trust me on this one, I own grammar. (I don't own spelling as I had to look up grammar to make sure it ended 'ar' not 'er')

no you don't.

i belive it's suppposed to be written:

Trust me on this one; I own grammar.

they're two independent clauses, so they need
to be separated by a semi-colon. right?

Shut up; I own you.
Better? ~~slaps you around because you're a woman~~

you are like school in the summer time.
no class.

I'll slap you around too.

you're just jealous 'cos you're fat and blonde and
you don't know shit about grammar. hahahaha

YOU'RE SUCH A TYPICAL GUY!

i'll tell you where to put that finger.

Are you referencing the "Dirty Mary" thread?