Well I was at Marks space today checking out his new Savage 120 and took a couple pics to post here. All I can say is that Engl rips all them other amps for his style of music. IMO it sounds drastically better than all of the other amps. I also liked the tone better with none of the rack stuff than with the maximizer and EQ. Still has lots of tweaking to do, but it already sound incredible.

I was standing 10-15 feet in front of his rig. He had just the Savage and the cabs going and I could literally feel the hair on my arms moving from the wall of sound. Intense!



Goreality has some sick fucking shit going on!

savage eh? Not sure how I feel bout that. My least fav engl.

Best sounding amp I have heard him play yet.

thats the trendiest waste of money i have seen in a long time. way to go harmony central.

Far from a waste if you shop smart. You usually come out on top or close to even if you shop smart. MaHd H8taZ uP in hEa

Shop Smart. Shop S-MART.

^^^ Win. When he signed my book he put "Hey Josh, Shop Smart!"

those bugeras are pretty cheap... anyone know how they sound?

yeah they sound great for what they are!

the spawn and the krank are going. the ENGL is the best sounding amp mark has had in this band so far...and the Bugera will rip your face off! that is all.

I'm curious about the Splawn. I've heard a lot about them.

hi, krank?

goddamn EarCandy still hasn't shipped!

it apparently exists (a little)

ah crap...why did I put that link.

you don't have to save that picture

wait...oh...it came out fine in the full version

lousy text

is this a post your gear thread now?

I made it be!

hows that dc-5 treat'n ya brutha?

it crushes!

good man.

it sucks ass!

dude your not supposed to say that until he sells it!!!! Fish, you tailgating tomorrow? Also, I am going on a short vacation with my son next week and wouldn't mind some spare cash, lets work a deal with that tuner.

those two items have the ability to take all the character out of any given amp. its mind blowing.

Oh well!



EQ's can be pretty sweet...if used right.

leave the BBE's in a PA where they belong

or on Bass...that sounds good sometimes, too.

Oh snap! I like your style B.

I GOT ?'S :

Blue, y u no like Engl?

Fish, that dc 'crushes' more than the rec?

Why does that guy have so many fucking heads?

Ya, Splawn didnt impress me, it was thru a 1960a tho, so who knows, but meh.

my earcandy took FOREVER to get. i think it was like four months late. shitty wait, but worth it.

PS



can't really see the cab there. or the Tube Screamer. but yeah. i gots em.

Nice, I got and love my simul 2:95.

thank you sir. i cherish mine.

the dc-5 gets a much wider tonal spectrum than the rectoid and there is strong, intelligible variations in tone from 1-10 on each pot. the parametric eq is a really awesome feature and adds alot for fine tuning and shaping. it has characteristically, much "sweeter" tones imo than the recto.

what sets the unit apart from others is that it has truly dynamic mids and an overall warm, organic sound that is uncommon these days. but as to which one crushes more, it's simple. 50 watts vs 150 watts.

just a question, but fishcakes....

i see a live in case in your pic

is that for the mesa on top, or better yet.... is it for sale?

yah, that is the cover for the dc-5 case. I got it used for 60 bucks...not looking to sell it rite now...at least not till I get a quote on a road case that holds both heads.

want to work a deal on the tuner?

sure, I just wanna check it out first dude.

swing by my house. I'll be here all night.

damn, i really want one of those and slide it in the front top half of my XXX a-la guy marchais. new apartment f+l+s got me broke nukka...

i dont not like engls, im just not a big fan of the savage. too raw, not fluid enough gain wise for my tastes.

why so many heads? why not? the person with the most gear wins.

and splawns are solid shit in my book, fish just doesnt like it cus marks has been having problems.

I don't like all lead tone...you know what I like sucka!

how about today?

Maiden today bro. I took them pics last night though so thats how it looks at this moment. I'll see you at maiden and we will talk.

cool

IZZAT THE WOODCUT MORBID ANGEL USED ON COVENANT
IN THE BACKGROUND?
DAMN, THAT'S FRESH, NIGGA

BLACK POWER!

lulz @ music man cab.

haha! nigger, if there was any doubt about you being my favorite poster on here, there is no longer.

it's from 1977 and has the original eminence squarebacks in it. smoothest mids i've ever heard. that cab rips, especially combined with the other three.
if you're going to make fun of one of my cabs, the proper choice is the 5150 cab. fuck that thing.

nick, music man was a totally different company in the 70s, they were not owned by ernie ball at the time. Old mm gear is awesome amp stuff.

NIGGER owns ye all.

my mistake gents.

dave, your sound is no joke yo

thanks dude. like i said at the show, we're not that good but at least we're loud

Can anyone tell me where they sell the Bugera amps around here? I am dying to try one out.

Rick's music world.

Your amp sounds better.

FISHCAKES!

WTF is that amp on top? It looks EXACTLY like an old Mesa, but it says Mesa/Boogie. I never saw one with those knobs & EQ combo post merger. What is it? It looks like the mesa pre-amp I used to have.

Really? Cool Thanks bro.

Pete it's a DC-5

I barely know my Mesa/Boogie history. I haven't liked the sound of anything they made after merging brands. That's why I'm curious. When was this made? Does it sound like the old Mesa amps? It LOOKS like a mesa with a new name badge on it.

Yeah, I'm wicked confused. Basically, i used to have something that looked like this:



But it just said "Mesa" on it, no Boogie. Sounded killer. More classic rock than metal, but with an overdrive in front it was creamy and warm and made awesome hardcore/chuggy tones.

Doing an image search, I find lots of stuff that looks like it, but it either says "boogie" or "mesa boogie". So the preamp was made under both names?

I'd love to find something like that preamp again.

yah' it's an older head, it's 50 watts all tube and it is pretty bad ass! not as much gain as the triple but it cuts like a mofo...it has a verry shavy sound...good thrash amp. gonna use it in N.J. this weekend.

fuck i wanna be playing the NJ show...FUCKING DRUMMERS!!

Indeed, I have. However, if you talk about a DC-5 doesn't mean I know what head it is.

I'm starting to think that I had a mesa/boogie, with a faded logo or something, because I find no history of mesa ever making anything that looked like that. That's the boogie amp look.

I think I figured it out.

Mesa never made amps under the Mesa name, it's just what he used after Fender stopped supplying him with Princetons. They DID however make a few combo amps where the Preamp said "Mesa" and then the speaker box had the "Boogie" brand. I think my rackmound was actually the preamp section from a combo amp. It would make sense, because the kid I bought it from did the same thing to a Crate right afterward.

pete, what is all this 'merger' hubub you're talking about. All old mesa (pre 80s) had a 'boogie' badge on it. Mesa engineering was the amp modification end of them, and boogie was their amp making end of it. They decided to merge the names together at the end of the 80s/early 90s.

The dc (dual caliber) series was created as a 'budget' amp to bridge the mark series and the rectos. The tone is more smoothed over and classic mesa sounding in comparison to the rectos with the added versatility of having the graphic eq, a signature trademark of mesa.

I say "merger" because I'd seen mesa/boogie, and seen boogie amps without the mesa bage. I assumed then that they also produced amps under the name "mesa" at one point, since I had that preamp which said "mesa".

Bear with me. I know diddly shit about tube amps. I always will, because I can't afford em, and I don't like the sound of the ones I COULD afford. I'd take modeling over a $500 tube amp any day.

Interested in trading that badcat for another Powerball? =]

haha...uhhh, no.

i want a powerball... i think i need to hit powerball first though.

DAMN! haha

Josh, buy mine. I need to get a VHT so I need it sold ASAP.

if this was 4 months ago when I had the cash I would have said yes. What are you getting, a sig x? Pitbull? Deliverence?

Pittbull.

UL or CL? A bud of mine might be ditching a 50UL

Whatever I find. I know a dude with a 50CL+marshall 4x12, so I might do a deal with that.

If he ends up ditching it, send him my way. haha. How much does he want for it?

I think he wants 1250. I will talk to him in a couple days and let you know.

Thatd be great. If hes willing to possibly trade the VHT+a couple hundred for my PB thatd be ever better. No one in the area (other than you guys) like boutique gear =/

my email is Destructospin07@yahoo.com

a 50UL? had no clue they made them half power.

^Same. I figured he meant 50CL.

Blue, want a powerball? lol

I have this really weird ENGL amp from the 80's. I need to post a pic of that...

id like to pick a pb up, but my ampeg vh-150 works just as nicely for the insanely thick high gain stuff.

Is it an ENGL Straight?

blue, wanna trade that ampeg and maybe some cash or other gear for the dc-5 ?

lol ive turned this into a giant "wanna trade/buy" thread.

that ampeg is the only thing I will part with the dc-5 for

Isnt the DC like awesome? haha I hear its incredibly versatile.

it is. but I want what I want.

Oh no, I wasnt questioning it, the Ampeg rules to. I just wanted to know how it is haha

DC5 is fucking nuts. I love that thing. Yes I do mean a 50UL. Not nearly as common as a 50cl.

i am definetly not giving up the ampeg for a while.

I want that. Email me once you find out. I want it bad. Ill buy it ASAP.

I'll let you know whats up as soon as I see him. I leave for NH in a few hours till thursday so I will probably talk to him thursday or friday.

it's ok blue, I will find one sooner or later.

you certainly will, make sure to also be on the lookout for a crate gx-130c, its the same circuit.

I may just get end up getting the Lee jackson model

There is a gx-150 at the daddy's in stamford, Ct for 149$

I want an ampeg

i want your LTD.

nope

I want my EarCandy cab.

Actually what I meant was a 130c not a 150
http://www.daddys.com/used/?itemnumber=CRA0018A
Blue, I am actually suprised you recomend buying one of these

Lee Jackson
http://cgi.ebay.com/Ampeg-VL-1002-Lee-Jack...ssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Blue, didnt you use a crate in Porphyria at one point?

you must've never heard one. the ampeg vh series and the crate gx-130c are the same amp, the difference is the crates used lower quality parts/wiring.

the only crate I ever had any experience with was the Excalibur P.O.S!
Is it worth 150$ ?

i used a crate BV412 cab with vintage 30s along with my 1960B cab. i used a 5150 II and a vht d60 head for amps.



both the gx-130c and the stealth series were/are solid as shit. 150 is a little under the going used rate for the crate, and its well worth it.

http://www.daddys.com/used/?itemnumber=CRA0018A

gx-130 are solid state.
And they switch channels randomly after about 2 years.
Mine did anyway.

haha yeah my practice amp is a gx-30c, it does the same thing.

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GX130c is the BEST solid amp! I have 2 amp heads. Both were perfect for ten years of hard use.

MIKE K- The Engl is an all valve "Digital amp" It is a one channel head that has four memory slots for saving settings. There were only a few hundered made. It does not exist ANYWHERE. The sound is like a over driven SUNN amp. there is no info for it. I will try to post a pic soon of all my studio suff.