Who in your opinion has the best representation of current death metal right now?

Europe or the States?

(im not asking black metal, folk, pagan, lute, or whetever the fuck else. pretty much only interested in the top 3% of the sick DM bands from both countries)

I'd say it's pretty even. We have most of the brutal stuff. They have most of the tech stuff.

But I guess we have Florida and California, so I don't really know.

yeah i dunno about the brutal thing, it seems that way at first, but i mean they have despondency, defeated sanity, beheaded...those bands alone blow alot of so called brutal american bands out of the water imo.

fuck, inveracity and suffocate bastard are pretty fahking brutal as well.

Good points, definitely. Europe may be beating us out.
We need more good bands.

kinda feels that way dont it..

europe 2 to 1

Insert the word "South" before 'American Metal' and we may have a competition

meh

Europe has always been better.

but we have awesome american bands like cryptosy.

I'm waiting for someone to come in here saying "The Faceless are the best American Death Metal band since... well, since Morbid Angel! And they're 12 years old!!"

U.S. has too many boring bands.

American death metal is terrible... Used to be good in the early 90's. Now it's all a rehash of pyrexia and suffocation crap. There are some exceptions: Arghoslent's - Hornets of the Pogrom crushes all of these college boy death metal homos.

Europe can never touch Vincent era Morbid Angel...

I don't think anyone can say that all European or all American death metal is terrible or great. No one here, myself included, really knows the extent of death metal in either area of the world. For every few terrible bands there has to be one that's great and innovative but also unknown. For all we know, the best Death Metal comes from an agricultural town in interior China. Probably not but you get my point.

SPAWN OF POSSESSION, ANATA, MARTYR... best Death Metal bands in the world at present. None are American.

American bands jock the slamtastic riffs waay way way too much. I love me some slam, but there is no denying that so many American bands sound nearly identical.

You're only addressing one type of death metal. There are so many other styles and types each with their own unique idiosyncratic musical stylings.

Thought I must agree on Spawn of Possession, not everyone knows every death metal band ever to say that anyone is the best metal band in the world.

I have my opinions and I really don't care if they're unfair to some shitty bands that play in a boring style of DM I don't like. I check out alot of bands and 95% of them are totally worthless and unoriginal, even bands that get jocked hard by people whose opinions I generally respect. Metal, especially death metal, is in large measure a stagnant genre in which so few bands display any real creativity and talent. There are bands out there that make it worthwhile, but they are few and far between.

I think American (black and death) Metal is pretty much at a standstill at the moment.

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That's exactly what I'm saying. There are a loooooooooooooot of bad bands but there has to be some good music out there. My point is that for every few bad bands there is one that is amazing and unknown. Sure a few make it, but there has to be more unknown ones out there.

True

Hahaha. I'm writing a 900,000 page Epic poem on Death metal, thank you very much.

exactly

old swedish/american death metal > current worldwide death metal

anyone who doesn't think there is any quality DM in the world right now needs to stop listening to so much shitty black metal.

and I fully back antonio.

SOP & martyr smoke all of your asses.

agreed blue. there's soo much horrible bedroom black metal. everyone wants to be the next xasthur.

BACK'D HARD

I'll go ahead and say that both most BM and DM today though are swimming in lameness.

But to say there is absolutely nothing of quality out there today is just straight up ignorant to explore for anything new.

Bloodbath > Every other death metal band.

lol @ bedroom black metal.

Hypocrisy

Thread over

Inveracity and Benighted are my two favorite DM bands right now. So Europe wins.

Go Europe!

inveracity, beheaded, despondency---i could survive off that solely off that shit!!

Beheaded are so amazing... Ominous Bloodline and Recounts of Disembodiment are fantastic CDs.

i sleep with these cd's in my transformers pillowcase hoping that i will absorb their brutality through osmosis.

Demilich (rip) > all other EU DM

so hessian, so impressive...

Inveracity's Influences are mostly american, just like all other band from the US and Europe

Influences
Broken Hope, Cannibal Corpse, Christ Denied, Deeds Of Flesh, Dehumanized, Fleshgrind, (early) Hate Eternal, Malevolent Creation, Monstrosity, Morbid Angel, Pyrexia, Terrorizer, Severe Torture, Slayer, Suffocation, Vile (US)

I love Demilich, but they are a bit too artsy for me. I feel they sacrifice good songwriting for weirdness to a certain extent. Still they are an amazing band.

is this new information to anyone?

Even though they're the gayest band now, Atrocity's Hallucinations and Todessehnsucht are underrated classics for EUDM. Considering Hallucinations was one of the 1st "technical" DM albums, you can tell bands like Cryptopsy got influenced by them.

Luciferion's first release is awesome too.

Probably not, but never forget who paved the fucking way...!!! US might be at a halt when it comes to brutal DM but never count them out. Just to clarify my statement from earlier on, we need more good USDM and less metalcore/grind wannabes...

fair enough and agreed! cheers!

europe is a continent

Putridity from Italy kills, check them out if you haven't already.

Wow, how old are you?

Is the opinion that Cannibal Corpse's "Kill" is one of the best death metal records to come out in years way too mainstream for the real DM fans out there?

That album just kills it in every way.

I'm not one of those diehard death metal guys but I've been listening to the good stuff for a while now.

CC always releases solid albums.

theres so much more out there though.

Yea but I think Kill is the best recording they've ever had. I love it!