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returntothepit >> discuss >> Aaron Russo interviews Ron Paul about IRS, Gold standard, taxes by Y_Ddraig_Goch on Feb 1,2008 5:40pm
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toggletoggle post by Y_Ddraig_Goch  at Feb 1,2008 5:40pm
from before the presidential race


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toggletoggle post by Y_Ddraig_Goch  at Feb 1,2008 5:41pm
"it's not a law, but they have all the guns so they can pretend it's a law"



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Feb 1,2008 6:11pm
the government is not trying to keep up the dollar right now. they are saying that they are, but they aren't. everyone knows that.

there isn't enough gold in the world to back our dollar.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gold_standard
At a gold price of US$800 per Troy ounce, or around $26,000 per kilogram, the value of this entire planetary stock would be $3.65 trillion, which is less than the value of cash circulating in the U.S. alone, where more than $7.3 trillion is in circulation or on deposit.

there also isn't a law for taxes... so what are you going to do about that? Our dollar has value because our government exists. If it was released how big the gold reserves were, then some other country with large investments here which are equal to more than reserves, ie china, india, britian, they could cause a run on the banks that would collapse our economy.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Feb 1,2008 6:13pm
all of the gold in the world would have to be collected x 2 to back our dollar. the price of gold would go through the roof. also, there would be a ceiling placed on our economy which was hit many years ago.



toggletoggle post by Hoser at Feb 1,2008 6:17pm
For once....I agree wholeheartedly.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Feb 1,2008 6:17pm
that is also just our economy. you would need a hung amount of gold (4-5 times what exists on this planet) to hold up a gold standard for the world.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Feb 1,2008 6:21pm
Ron Paul's arguments are wild and the same exact arguments that 7th graders from their US History class make. Trust in the value of a dollar is the trust in a government. If the government collapses, you lose your investment in that government. If there were a gold standard and you are one of the "lucky" ones that collects your gold, if the US government collapses good luck surviving on the value of your gold! it will collapse, crushed by the value of a gallon of milk or a sammich.



toggletoggle post by Y_Ddraig_Goch  at Feb 1,2008 6:31pm
we should base our money on the water standard

as that will be more expensive than oil and gold in a few years.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Feb 1,2008 6:36pm
true that... we need to invent a way, using solar power, to convert salt/polluted water to clean water.



toggletoggle post by Y_Ddraig_Goch  at Feb 1,2008 7:08pm
the_reverend said:
true that... we need to invent a way, using solar power, to convert salt/polluted water to clean water.


we can start by dismantling the privatization of water. Water should be owned by the people and controlled by the government and the only charges should be to cover maintenance of equipment transporting it and cleaning it

fuck bottled water, the biggest environmental catastrophe in the world is this trend with bottled water.

It's bottled water which will cause the price of normal water to skyrocket.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Feb 1,2008 7:16pm
oh man... don't get me started... I reuse my bottles for months.



toggletoggle post by Y_Ddraig_Goch  at Feb 1,2008 8:37pm
the_reverend said:
oh man... don't get me started... I reuse my bottles for months.


I hope you are throughly cleaning those.

and you would be one of few who does such a thing, there must be trillions of bottles made each year.



toggletoggle post by Y_Ddraig_Goch  at Feb 1,2008 8:37pm
should tie em all together and make a floating island



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Feb 1,2008 9:47pm
call it new poland springs?
the number of bottles is in the billions, I think.
let me find it.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Feb 1,2008 9:49pm
In 2004 the total global consumption of bottled water was 154 billion liters (41 billion gallons), a 57 percent increase from the 98 billion liters consumed in 1999.[1] Americans buy about 28 billion water bottles a year, 80% end up in landfills. California is leading the solution by recycling 60% of their bottles. (12 billion out of 20 billion sold)



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