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returntothepit >> discuss >> Cynic by corpus_colostomy on Jan 10,2008 4:44pm
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toggletoggle post by corpus_colostomy at Jan 10,2008 4:44pm
rules on so many diff. levels. anyone else feel me?



toggletoggle post by goatcatalyst   at Jan 10,2008 4:46pm
word on the street is that there's a new one coming soon



toggletoggle post by goatcatalyst   at Jan 10,2008 4:47pm
... and i'll fuck their mouths if they break out that christing vocoder horseshit



toggletoggle post by corpus_colostomy at Jan 10,2008 4:47pm
no shit? 'Focus' kills.



toggletoggle post by goatcatalyst   at Jan 10,2008 4:50pm
the demos are even better. no vocoder & Tony Teagarden on vocals = better.



toggletoggle post by brian_dc  at Jan 10,2008 4:59pm
the new stuff is going to be all vocoder stuff. At least according to the live video of a new song that was floating around

the music was out of control good, so I don't care



toggletoggle post by Blue  at Jan 10,2008 5:02pm
tha robot vokills allow me to see through time, so fuck ya'll n00bs.



toggletoggle post by corpus_colostomy at Jan 10,2008 5:03pm
hahaha! truuuu.



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Jan 10,2008 5:04pm
brian_dc said:
the new stuff is going to be all vocoder stuff. At least according to the live video of a new song that was floating around


The vocoder drum solo was killer.

Yeah, in all seriousness not a fan of that particular element, but they rule hard enough for me to overcome it.




toggletoggle post by hunterhunter   at Jan 10,2008 8:46pm
sean reiner is an awesome drummer, is he on the new one?



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jan 10,2008 8:50pm
didn't the extra songs on the focus re-issue eat bawls?



toggletoggle post by corpus_colostomy at Jan 10,2008 9:06pm
agreed rev.



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toggletoggle post by SW at Jan 11,2008 12:26am
the_reverend said:
didn't the extra songs on the focus re-issue eat bawls?


ya they had some female vocals that sucked on em



toggletoggle post by neverpurified  at Jan 11,2008 12:30am
Those songs on the re-issue weren't even Cynic songs...they were Portal songs. granted, Portal was essentially Cynic with a chick singer, but they were going for a totally different vibe



toggletoggle post by anthny at Jan 11,2008 1:20am
The Portal shit doesn't suck. I love that CD and listen to it all the time.



toggletoggle post by BSV at Jan 11,2008 3:35am
meh, I'd rather just listen to Athiest.



toggletoggle post by niflheim at Jan 11,2008 7:51am
Sean Reinert is a sick drummer, though I'm not the biggest fan of Portal (miami) or Aghora. I thought the cyber vocals on Focus were aesthetically well placed. Focus is a classic a long side Atheist - Unquestionable Presence / Elements and Pestilence - Spheres.



toggletoggle post by aril at Jan 11,2008 9:13am
Cynic is great, but like BornSoVile said, I'd rather listen to Atheist! Can't beat the song Mother Man.



toggletoggle post by goatcatalyst   at Jan 11,2008 9:28am
I too prefer Atheist. And I'll take the Cynic demoes over Focus.

Please and thank you.



toggletoggle post by aril at Jan 11,2008 9:36am
Cynic's demo tapes from '90 and '91 (I believe those are the correct years, can't remember) are actually really good, despite the production. That's my favorite Cynic.



toggletoggle post by ExploitaitonOfMistakes at Jan 11,2008 1:54pm
aril said:
Cynic's demo tapes from '90 and '91 (I believe those are the correct years, can't remember) are actually really good, despite the production. That's my favorite Cynic.


Yeah the 89, 90 and 91 demos are the best. 88 is good too but really hard to appreciate due to the low quality of the recording.

Also, re: the Atheist v. Cynic comparisons - I don't even really think that's relevant. Cynic approached jazzfusion/metal in suuuuuuuch a different way than Atheist that I don't even see the point in comparing them. Cynic is a completely different listening experience than Atheist.



toggletoggle post by BSV at Jan 11,2008 2:04pm
Yeah, Cynic is for pompous jazz cunts who think they can play metal cause they know how to wank. Athiest is for metal heads with heart.



toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Jan 11,2008 4:01pm
niflheim said:
I thought the cyber vocals on Focus were aesthetically well placed. Focus is a classic a long side Atheist - Unquestionable Presence / Elements and Pestilence - Spheres.


i agree with both statements.



toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Jan 11,2008 4:02pm
BSV said:
Yeah, Cynic is for pompous jazz cunts who think they can play metal cause they know how to wank. Athiest is for metal heads with heart.


i somewhat agree with you, although i love both bands. cynic definitely comes off as more pretentious, or at least the big fans do. atheist seems a little less appreciated and not pretentious at all.



toggletoggle post by corpus_colostomy at Jan 11,2008 5:07pm
BSV said:
Yeah, Cynic is for pompous jazz cunts who think they can play metal cause they know how to wank. Athiest is for metal heads with heart.


Those who judge a bands merit by the general characteristics of their listening audience are: un-metal and have less heart than those who they point the finger at from high atop their perch. talk about pompous snobbery...




toggletoggle post by neverpurified  at Jan 11,2008 5:28pm
corpus_colostomy said:
BSV said:
Yeah, Cynic is for pompous jazz cunts who think they can play metal cause they know how to wank. Athiest is for metal heads with heart.


Those who judge a bands merit by the general characteristics of their listening audience are: un-metal and have less heart than those who they point the finger at from high atop their perch. talk about pompous snobbery...



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