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returntothepit >> discuss >> 2008 RTTP Presidential poll by y_ddraig_goch on Jan 4,2008 2:27pm
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2008 RTTP Presidential poll - usless poll
1Clinton
2Romney
3Edwards
4Thomspon
5McCain
6Obama
7Huckabee
8Guiliani
9Biden
10Dodd
11Kucinich
12Richardson
13Ron Paul
14Tancredo
15Cthulhu
no vote


toggletoggle post by y_ddraig_goch  at Jan 4,2008 2:27pm
Who is or be you voting for?

this be the official RTTP poll, because my master, the last one on the poll, said so.



toggletoggle post by DaveFromTheGrave  at Jan 4,2008 2:32pm
fuck democracy. and fuck brids.



toggletoggle post by y_ddraig_goch  at Jan 4,2008 2:39pm
Fuck fascism, unless I'm the dictator!

I don't believe in voting either, the government is already far beyond a puppet state acting out the will of the man behind the curtain.

But I am human and still hold on to the most foolish of man's thoughts, hope.

Hopefully something can change.

CTHULHU SAYS FREE SLAVES TO ALL WHO VOTE FOR HIM (disclaimer: you will be the free slave, to Him!)



toggletoggle post by niflheim at Jan 4,2008 2:40pm
...Only when the stars are right again



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jan 4,2008 2:41pm
don't blame me, I voted for kodos.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jan 4,2008 2:48pm
also, I'm voting for the shover robot.



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Jan 4,2008 2:52pm
Cthulhu / Hastur in '08: Why vote for the lesser evil?



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Jan 4,2008 2:52pm
the_reverend said:
also, I'm voting for the shover robot.


ALL WILL BE SHOVED

DO NOT BELIEVE THE PUSHER ROBOT'S LIES



toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Jan 4,2008 2:53pm
i voted cthulhu



toggletoggle post by pam nli at Jan 4,2008 3:16pm
This will probably be the only place Ron Paul will win.



toggletoggle post by DaveFromTheGrave  at Jan 4,2008 3:20pm
Pam, why are you so opposed to Ron Paul?



toggletoggle post by y_ddraig_goch  at Jan 4,2008 4:30pm
DaveFromTheGrave said:
Pam, why are you so opposed to Ron Paul?


cause he doesnt support the murder of babies!!!

like my slanting of language?

I think abortion should be outlawed unless it is for rape victims, or if it jeopardizes the health of the mother.

and for people who say

"what about the babies life, if he doesnt get an abortion then it will grow up in a miserable world..." well to answer that, fuck 'em, bad things happen to everyone. Growing up in a shitty home or foster home isn't the end of the world, there's always a chance things will turn out better.

or how about all those naysayers who say "if it's outlawed people will still do it anyway, in back alleys"

yeah shitty, horrible, evil people who deserve to become infected when a coat hanger gets shoved up there.

People need to take responsibility. if abortions were accepted so easily how many of us would be here? how many of our parents planned us?


But I am all for it if the situation calls for it as the only answer.



toggletoggle post by y_ddraig_goch  at Jan 4,2008 4:32pm
pam nli said:
This will probably be the only place Ron Paul will win.


they say he might break double digits in the NH primary, at that will be embarrassing for the other front runners.

I think he will win a lot more than any other dark horse has won.

and at least he isnt a murderer like clinton or a socialist like Obama, or a evangelist like huckabee.

If I had to chose, it would be edwards with ron paul as vice.



toggletoggle post by cav nli at Jan 4,2008 4:36pm
y_ddraig_goch said:
DaveFromTheGrave said:
Pam, why are you so opposed to Ron Paul?


cause he doesnt support the murder of babies!!!

like my slanting of language?

I think abortion should be outlawed unless it is for rape victims, or if it jeopardizes the health of the mother.

and for people who say

"what about the babies life, if he doesnt get an abortion then it will grow up in a miserable world..." well to answer that, fuck 'em, bad things happen to everyone. Growing up in a shitty home or foster home isn't the end of the world, there's always a chance things will turn out better.

or how about all those naysayers who say "if it's outlawed people will still do it anyway, in back alleys"

yeah shitty, horrible, evil people who deserve to become infected when a coat hanger gets shoved up there.

People need to take responsibility. if abortions were accepted so easily how many of us would be here? how many of our parents planned us?


But I am all for it if the situation calls for it as the only answer.


"something is terribly amiss when the beauty and the miracle of new life
is nothing but a burden"



toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Jan 4,2008 4:39pm
y_ddraig_goch said:
DaveFromTheGrave said:
Pam, why are you so opposed to Ron Paul?


cause he doesnt support the murder of babies!!!

like my slanting of language?

I think abortion should be outlawed unless it is for rape victims, or if it jeopardizes the health of the mother.

and for people who say

"what about the babies life, if he doesnt get an abortion then it will grow up in a miserable world..." well to answer that, fuck 'em, bad things happen to everyone. Growing up in a shitty home or foster home isn't the end of the world, there's always a chance things will turn out better.

or how about all those naysayers who say "if it's outlawed people will still do it anyway, in back alleys"

yeah shitty, horrible, evil people who deserve to become infected when a coat hanger gets shoved up there.

People need to take responsibility. if abortions were accepted so easily how many of us would be here? how many of our parents planned us?


But I am all for it if the situation calls for it as the only answer.



you aren't a woman, so it's not your body in question. i don't think abortion should be an overused form of birth control, but i think it should be an option.



toggletoggle post by DaveFromTheGrave  at Jan 4,2008 4:39pm
y_ddraig_goch said:
DaveFromTheGrave said:
Pam, why are you so opposed to Ron Paul?


cause he doesnt support the murder of babies!!!

like my slanting of language?

I think abortion should be outlawed unless it is for rape victims, or if it jeopardizes the health of the mother.

and for people who say

"what about the babies life, if he doesnt get an abortion then it will grow up in a miserable world..." well to answer that, fuck 'em, bad things happen to everyone. Growing up in a shitty home or foster home isn't the end of the world, there's always a chance things will turn out better.

or how about all those naysayers who say "if it's outlawed people will still do it anyway, in back alleys"

yeah shitty, horrible, evil people who deserve to become infected when a coat hanger gets shoved up there.

People need to take responsibility. if abortions were accepted so easily how many of us would be here? how many of our parents planned us?


But I am all for it if the situation calls for it as the only answer.


Is your name Pam?



toggletoggle post by DaveFromTheGrave  at Jan 4,2008 4:40pm
cav nli said:
y_ddraig_goch said:
DaveFromTheGrave said:
Pam, why are you so opposed to Ron Paul?


cause he doesnt support the murder of babies!!!

like my slanting of language?

I think abortion should be outlawed unless it is for rape victims, or if it jeopardizes the health of the mother.

and for people who say

"what about the babies life, if he doesnt get an abortion then it will grow up in a miserable world..." well to answer that, fuck 'em, bad things happen to everyone. Growing up in a shitty home or foster home isn't the end of the world, there's always a chance things will turn out better.

or how about all those naysayers who say "if it's outlawed people will still do it anyway, in back alleys"

yeah shitty, horrible, evil people who deserve to become infected when a coat hanger gets shoved up there.

People need to take responsibility. if abortions were accepted so easily how many of us would be here? how many of our parents planned us?


But I am all for it if the situation calls for it as the only answer.


"something is terribly amiss when the beauty and the miracle of new life
is nothing but a burden"


"Having a baby is no more a miracle than eating food and a turd coming out of your ass."



toggletoggle post by sxealex   at Jan 4,2008 4:44pm
legalizing something has never made it socially acceptable.
the whole point of legalizing it is to make the govt NOT touch that issue.



toggletoggle post by sxealex   at Jan 4,2008 4:44pm
i mean its legal to drink but you are sure as hell getting fired if you come to work drunk.



toggletoggle post by y_ddraig_goch  at Jan 4,2008 4:48pm
DaveFromTheGrave said:
y_ddraig_goch said:
DaveFromTheGrave said:
Pam, why are you so opposed to Ron Paul?


.


Is your name Pam?




no, but I've already seen her replies to why she doesn't support him in other threads. The baby issue.



toggletoggle post by sxealex   at Jan 4,2008 4:53pm
a republican who wants to add govt involvement is an oxymoron.
there are a lot of oxymoron.



toggletoggle post by y_ddraig_goch  at Jan 4,2008 4:53pm
dreadkill said:


you aren't a woman, so it's not your body in question. i don't think abortion should be an overused form of birth control, but i think it should be an option.



Yeah but I am a citizen of the united states of America and children are the future. If our birthrate drops too low below the death rate (look at germany's) then you can say good by to social security, and all other services tax payers support. You can say good bye to all the possible jobs and thinkers that would have been born.

I think the argument of "it's not your body" is lame, because abortion does affect this country and men in general.

Whatcha ya gonna do when asian and latino baby boom runs wild on you?





toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Jan 4,2008 5:08pm
y_ddraig_goch said:
dreadkill said:


you aren't a woman, so it's not your body in question. i don't think abortion should be an overused form of birth control, but i think it should be an option.



Yeah but I am a citizen of the united states of America and children are the future. If our birthrate drops too low below the death rate (look at germany's) then you can say good by to social security, and all other services tax payers support. You can say good bye to all the possible jobs and thinkers that would have been born.

I think the argument of "it's not your body" is lame, because abortion does affect this country and men in general.

Whatcha ya gonna do when asian and latino baby boom runs wild on you?




that baby boom is already running wild on this country. how is anti-abortion law going to make an impact on that? i doubt the population of aborted fetuses could compete with the breeding prowess of latinos in america.



toggletoggle post by pam nli at Jan 4,2008 5:17pm
Wow, I'm glad you've made up my mind for me.

I'm no more opposed to Ron Paul as I am any other idiot religious nutbag republican. Yeah, let's leave things like abortion and K-12 school funding up to the states so that retard states like Alabama that have no money or brains can become even bigger shitholes than they already are. Good idea. There's a reason there is federal oversight, and I prefer that.

I'm not arguing abortion with this board anymore. You have no idea what it's like to be on the other end. You can take off, leave, and duck child support. It's NOT your body. It's NOT your decision. Want to end the need for abortion? Stop fucking these "whores" without condoms.

And children are our future? Tell that to the hundreds of thousands of unwanted children wasting away in the system that will more than likely grow up to waste away in our prisons. Don't be retarded.

You want smaller government, but you want government to rule over what happens inside someones body? Dumb. If men could get pregnant, there wouldn't even be a discussion.



toggletoggle post by y_ddraig_goch  at Jan 4,2008 5:49pm
pam nli said:
Wow, I'm glad you've made up my mind for me.

I'm no more opposed to Ron Paul as I am any other idiot religious nutbag republican. Yeah, let's leave things like abortion and K-12 school funding up to the states so that retard states like Alabama that have no money or brains can become even bigger shitholes than they already are. Good idea. There's a reason there is federal oversight, and I prefer that.

I'm not arguing abortion with this board anymore. You have no idea what it's like to be on the other end. You can take off, leave, and duck child support. It's NOT your body. It's NOT your decision. Want to end the need for abortion? Stop fucking these "whores" without condoms.

And children are our future? Tell that to the hundreds of thousands of unwanted children wasting away in the system that will more than likely grow up to waste away in our prisons. Don't be retarded.

You want smaller government, but you want government to rule over what happens inside someones body? Dumb. If men could get pregnant, there wouldn't even be a discussion.



What are you talking about? dalllloouuuuu men can have babies...






Here's a question, why not have people be responsible...? I wear condoms, and I have only had sex with girlfriends...not random drunk women...I always make sure the woman is on birth control too.

People just need to be more responsible

if you get raped that's different... If you get knocked up from being a drunk and the man being an idiot and not wearing a condom, and the woman letting it slide... That's their fault, they should deal with it.

Let those children waste away, they are the byproduct of our ego centric culture that only cares about the individual and has no heed for consequences.

So you rather just kill the kids before they are born, even though there might be a possibility of them turning out good and finding loving homes? or do you think just killing them and not thinking about it helps?

I'm all for women's rights, but I think abortion should not be needed, I would rather have it fade away from lack of need then to be banned by government, or to be fully supported by government.

but there's always dumb sluts and stupid men who don't warp their junk who create a need for it.




toggletoggle post by y_ddraig_goch  at Jan 4,2008 5:50pm
We have a massive war, we're enslaved to the Federal Reserve, our cost of living rises, people starve on the streets, healthcare is non existent for many.

and on RTTP here we are arguing over the right to abortion...



toggletoggle post by DomesticTerror at Jan 4,2008 6:07pm
y_ddraig_goch said:



I think abortion should be outlawed unless it is for rape victims...



so...you're opposed to the termination of an "innocent, unborn child"...unless the father is an asshole. then it's perfectly ok. that makes zero sense.




toggletoggle post by tbone_r nli at Jan 4,2008 6:08pm
are you calling for an abortion on the issue of abortion?

i think its debated more because you don't need to be as informed as you would on most other political hot topics to have a valid opinion.



toggletoggle post by sxealex   at Jan 4,2008 6:29pm
y_ddraig_goch said:


Here's a question, why not have people be responsible...? I wear condoms, and I have only had sex with girlfriends...not random drunk women...I always make sure the woman is on birth control too.

People just need to be more responsible

if you get raped that's different... If you get knocked up from being a drunk and the man being an idiot and not wearing a condom, and the woman letting it slide... That's their fault, they should deal with it.

Let those children waste away, they are the byproduct of our ego centric culture that only cares about the individual and has no heed for consequences.

So you rather just kill the kids before they are born, even though there might be a possibility of them turning out good and finding loving homes? or do you think just killing them and not thinking about it helps?

I'm all for women's rights, but I think abortion should not be needed, I would rather have it fade away from lack of need then to be banned by government, or to be fully supported by government.

but there's always dumb sluts and stupid men who don't warp their junk who create a need for it.




Ok great so we will all be responsible and there will be no need for the government to intervien.




toggletoggle post by RichHorror  at Jan 4,2008 6:40pm
Abortion should be mandatory.



toggletoggle post by DomesticTerror at Jan 4,2008 6:43pm
and free.



toggletoggle post by mortalis  at Jan 4,2008 6:45pm
sxealex said:
y_ddraig_goch said:


Here's a question, why not have people be responsible...? I wear condoms, and I have only had sex with girlfriends...not random drunk women...I always make sure the woman is on birth control too.

People just need to be more responsible

if you get raped that's different... If you get knocked up from being a drunk and the man being an idiot and not wearing a condom, and the woman letting it slide... That's their fault, they should deal with it.

Let those children waste away, they are the byproduct of our ego centric culture that only cares about the individual and has no heed for consequences.

So you rather just kill the kids before they are born, even though there might be a possibility of them turning out good and finding loving homes? or do you think just killing them and not thinking about it helps?

I'm all for women's rights, but I think abortion should not be needed, I would rather have it fade away from lack of need then to be banned by government, or to be fully supported by government.

but there's always dumb sluts and stupid men who don't warp their junk who create a need for it.




Ok great so we will all be responsible and there will be no need for the government to intervien.



think of the ramifications. ron paul becomes president, tells people to be more responsible, and BOOM, problem solved. hell, we might not even need law enforcement anymore!



toggletoggle post by SkinSandwich at Jan 4,2008 7:07pm
I heard Ron Paul climbed Everest with both his hands tied behind his back, and only scaled it with a hook coming out of his penis.



toggletoggle post by RichHorror  at Jan 4,2008 7:09pm
A vote for Ron Paul is a vote for Bill Brasky.



toggletoggle post by y_ddraig_goch  at Jan 4,2008 7:12pm
A vote for cthulhu brings you closer to being eaten



toggletoggle post by Fuck_Logging_In_NLI at Jan 4,2008 7:31pm
y_ddraig_goch said:
A vote for cthulhu brings you closer to being eaten


I can think of worst fates. I could have be aborted.



toggletoggle post by shannon at Jan 4,2008 8:08pm
"You have no idea what it's like to be on the other end. You can take off, leave, and duck child support. It's NOT your body. It's NOT your decision. Want to end the need for abortion? Stop fucking these "whores" without condoms.

And children are our future? Tell that to the hundreds of thousands of unwanted children wasting away in the system that will more than likely grow up to waste away in our prisons. Don't be retarded.

You want smaller government, but you want government to rule over what happens inside someones body? Dumb. If men could get pregnant, there wouldn't even be a discussion. "

Can I get an amen-



toggletoggle post by Lamp  at Jan 4,2008 9:28pm
y_ddraig_goch said:
You can say good bye to all the possible jobs and thinkers that would have been born.


Yeah dude, it's really a shame that one scientist and one hundred thousand Taco Bell managers will never be born.



toggletoggle post by Fuck_Logging_In_NLI at Jan 4,2008 9:33pm
shannon said:
"You have no idea what it's like to be on the other end. You can take off, leave, and duck child support. It's NOT your body. It's NOT your decision. Want to end the need for abortion? Stop fucking these "whores" without condoms.

And children are our future? Tell that to the hundreds of thousands of unwanted children wasting away in the system that will more than likely grow up to waste away in our prisons. Don't be retarded.

You want smaller government, but you want government to rule over what happens inside someones body? Dumb. If men could get pregnant, there wouldn't even be a discussion. "

Can I get an amen-


i'll give you an amen; in hope of agreeing with you will get me laid.



toggletoggle post by y_ddraig_goch  at Jan 4,2008 10:37pm
Lamp said:
y_ddraig_goch said:
You can say good bye to all the possible jobs and thinkers that would have been born.


Yeah dude, it's really a shame that one scientist and one hundred thousand Taco Bell managers will never be born.


there's got to be someone to get your tacos, right?



toggletoggle post by y_ddraig_goch  at Jan 4,2008 10:38pm
P.S I fully support the right to abortion, but I really think that it should be a last call, far too many people rely on it as birth control or overuse it



toggletoggle post by CNV at Jan 4,2008 10:43pm
y_ddraig_goch said:
pam nli said:
Wow, I'm glad you've made up my mind for me.

I'm no more opposed to Ron Paul as I am any other idiot religious nutbag republican. Yeah, let's leave things like abortion and K-12 school funding up to the states so that retard states like Alabama that have no money or brains can become even bigger shitholes than they already are. Good idea. There's a reason there is federal oversight, and I prefer that.

I'm not arguing abortion with this board anymore. You have no idea what it's like to be on the other end. You can take off, leave, and duck child support. It's NOT your body. It's NOT your decision. Want to end the need for abortion? Stop fucking these "whores" without condoms.

And children are our future? Tell that to the hundreds of thousands of unwanted children wasting away in the system that will more than likely grow up to waste away in our prisons. Don't be retarded.

You want smaller government, but you want government to rule over what happens inside someones body? Dumb. If men could get pregnant, there wouldn't even be a discussion.



What are you talking about? dalllloouuuuu men can have babies...






Here's a question, why not have people be responsible...? I wear condoms, and I have only had sex with girlfriends...not random drunk women...I always make sure the woman is on birth control too.

People just need to be more responsible

if you get raped that's different... If you get knocked up from being a drunk and the man being an idiot and not wearing a condom, and the woman letting it slide... That's their fault, they should deal with it.

Let those children waste away, they are the byproduct of our ego centric culture that only cares about the individual and has no heed for consequences.

So you rather just kill the kids before they are born, even though there might be a possibility of them turning out good and finding loving homes? or do you think just killing them and not thinking about it helps?

I'm all for women's rights, but I think abortion should not be needed, I would rather have it fade away from lack of need then to be banned by government, or to be fully supported by government.

but there's always dumb sluts and stupid men who don't warp their junk who create a need for it.



Your a dope... Clearly you have no concept of too many humans not enough resources. Life is not precious... Life is a darwinist struggle for survival and the idiots breed like rabbits. I am all for dead babies... Kill, kill, kill... Population control dumb dumb... 40 percent of our rivers and streams are too polluted to fish because of humans. People ruin everything... PRO DEATH

Abortion is the only issue I disagree with Ron Paul on... I do feel the other issues he is talking about are dead on and are more pressing.
Luckily it will be a state issue when it comes to abortion. And if your not gonna vote your opinion means shit... Fuckin kids today...



toggletoggle post by y_ddraig_goch  at Jan 4,2008 11:00pm
Voting isnt real


and it's you're not your.

and the resources are there. Our greedy corporations just don't know how to manage them, or waste too much, or purposely mismanage them.

the reason the earth is strained is because we don't bother to regulate our waster, or properly manage our resource usage.

And idiots are idiots because they let themselves get that way.

here's an idea, let's reinstate eugenics, just because Hitler used it doesn't make it a bad idea. I think it's one of the greatest ideas of humanity, as long as it isn't controlled by the wrong people for the wrong means.




toggletoggle post by ConquerTheBaphomet  at Jan 4,2008 11:04pm
Ron Paul has some sweet ideas when it comes to illegal immigration and education reform. I'm leaning his way right way.



toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Jan 5,2008 1:30am
y_ddraig_goch said:
P.S I fully support the right to abortion, but I really think that it should be a last call, far too many people rely on it as birth control or overuse it


i'm with you there. it should not be overused as a form of birth control. i just don't agree with the government making a blanket call on it and taking away the right to choose if it is best. every situation is different.



toggletoggle post by SW at Jan 5,2008 1:58am
ConquerTheBaphomet said:
Ron Paul has some sweet ideas when it comes to illegal immigration and education reform. I'm leaning his way right way.


Revelation 18



toggletoggle post by CANDY STRIPER DEATH ORGY at Jan 5,2008 2:44am
I like Mitt Romney.



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Jan 5,2008 6:27am
Ron Paul is against abortion. All of you idiots voting for him should know that you're supporting bullshit christian values.



toggletoggle post by pam nli at Jan 5,2008 10:24am
I don't think I ever said people shouldn't be more responsible. I'm well aware that there are pretty disgusting people out there that use a last resort as a way out of a preventable problem. HOWEVER, if we were to outlaw abortion with rape as an exception, how many of those disgusting people would get desperate and start fingering the guy they fucked to get the abortion they need. Not to mention, who is going to decide that? How can you be sure they decide without bias? It takes a year to get a court date for some punk kid breaking your car window, what do you think will happen here?

And I think it bears mentioning that Republicans vote down EVERY piece of non-abstinence only sex ed funding that comes across their face. How the fuck does it make sense to REFUSE to fund programs that teach about condoms, birth control, teen pregnancy, and STDs...vote down legislature that forces ALL pharmacies to carry the morning after pill (which has no effect on an already implanted egg, thus "aborts" nothing) but then try to blanket-ban abortion.

People are going to fuck. They're going to make bad choices. Instead of playing big brother to them and making laws that reach into a woman's fucking vagina, how about we expand efforts to teach kids not to be fucking stupid? Bring teen moms into classrooms to talk about what they went through. Make birth control available to girls without parental permission at 16 years of age or something. You can drive but you can't be on the pill? Make insurance companies cover the pill. Make it free. That's how you reduce the need for abortion, not by making laws sprung out of the "moral christian" agenda.

And Mitt Romney is a fucking moron.



toggletoggle post by metal cvlt at Jan 5,2008 10:28am
TLDR biatch

to go back to the basics of this thread.. i wrote in MSD



toggletoggle post by Lamp  at Jan 5,2008 10:39am
metal cvlt said:
TLDR biatch


Is this what we're starting to resort to now? Fuck off and die, shitface.



toggletoggle post by pam nli at Jan 5,2008 10:49am
metal cvlt said:
TLDR biatch

to go back to the basics of this thread.. i wrote in MSD


Are you serious about being a 14 year old girl in an AOL chatroom?



toggletoggle post by Hungtableed at Jan 5,2008 12:08pm
Wow. Hell must have frozen over...RttP, so far, is more supportive of a Republican (Ron Paul) than any other candidate. I'm def. voting for Ron Paul and if he isn't on the ballot I'm voting for my fucking cat as a write in. I would almost be willing to bet my life that a Democrat will likely take office in Jan. 2009. As that is the reality, I say, anyone but Hillary! I hate that cunt. With that said, I guess I hope Osama-bin-obam, ughh obamasama, ughhh Sen. Obama wins.



toggletoggle post by Y_Ddraig_Goch  at Jan 5,2008 12:22pm
pam nli said:
I don't think I ever said people shouldn't be more responsible. I'm well aware that there are pretty disgusting people out there that use a last resort as a way out of a preventable problem. HOWEVER, if we were to outlaw abortion with rape as an exception, how many of those disgusting people would get desperate and start fingering the guy they fucked to get the abortion they need. Not to mention, who is going to decide that? How can you be sure they decide without bias? It takes a year to get a court date for some punk kid breaking your car window, what do you think will happen here?

And I think it bears mentioning that Republicans vote down EVERY piece of non-abstinence only sex ed funding that comes across their face. How the fuck does it make sense to REFUSE to fund programs that teach about condoms, birth control, teen pregnancy, and STDs...vote down legislature that forces ALL pharmacies to carry the morning after pill (which has no effect on an already implanted egg, thus "aborts" nothing) but then try to blanket-ban abortion.

People are going to fuck. They're going to make bad choices. Instead of playing big brother to them and making laws that reach into a woman's fucking vagina, how about we expand efforts to teach kids not to be fucking stupid? Bring teen moms into classrooms to talk about what they went through. Make birth control available to girls without parental permission at 16 years of age or something. You can drive but you can't be on the pill? Make insurance companies cover the pill. Make it free. That's how you reduce the need for abortion, not by making laws sprung out of the "moral christian" agenda.

And Mitt Romney is a fucking moron.


Complete agreement with you there. Sex ed is no longer funded? I remember in middle school even my last year in elementary we had it, definitely a good idea.

Also, it doesnt help with pope saying condoms and any birthcontrol is akin to abortion, which is why no one in south america who is catholic uses it.



toggletoggle post by DomesticTerror at Jan 5,2008 12:38pm
abortion is the best $500 i ever spent.



toggletoggle post by metal cvlt at Jan 5,2008 12:58pm
if a negro or woman is elected we are so fucked..

and fuck you if you think you are intelligent and still participate in this shithole.



toggletoggle post by CANDY STRIPER DEATH ORGY at Jan 5,2008 10:28pm
Mitt Romney is a massive business man. That's what we need in the Whitehouse!! We haven't had a true business man as President for years... Look up what Mitt has done over the years.

We don't need any shitty-ass democraps in office. All they do is talk about how they can take more of our money and give it to somebody else.



toggletoggle post by cav nli at Jan 6,2008 9:41am
DomesticTerror said:
abortion is the best $500 i ever spent.


it costs 500 bucks?



toggletoggle post by Y_Ddraig_Goch  at Jan 6,2008 10:15am
CANDY STRIPER DEATH ORGY said:
Mitt Romney is a massive business man. That's what we need in the Whitehouse!! We haven't had a true business man as President for years... Look up what Mitt has done over the years.

We don't need any shitty-ass democraps in office. All they do is talk about how they can take more of our money and give it to somebody else.


your values are as gay as your band.


What we don't need is a business man. This country is a democracy not a fucking company. We don't need some guy worrying about his shareholders, making profits and such. America has done terrible since Clinton implemented the idea of running the country like a business.

Not too mention he's a mormom...

oh yeah, he's outspokenly racist towards Middle Easterners, he said that if he were elected he would not allow anyone of middle eastern descent to work for him at any level.



toggletoggle post by DomesticTerror at Jan 6,2008 12:09pm
cav nli said:
DomesticTerror said:
abortion is the best $500 i ever spent.


it costs 500 bucks?


10 years ago it did. it's probably more now. still, i'd do it again. just don't run the vacuum cleaner around the GF for a few days...




toggletoggle post by Hoser at Jan 6,2008 12:35pm
CANDY STRIPER DEATH ORGY said:
Mitt Romney is a massive business man. That's what we need in the Whitehouse!! We haven't had a true business man as President for years... Look up what Mitt has done over the years.

We don't need any shitty-ass democraps in office. All they do is talk about how they can take more of our money and give it to somebody else.


Are you a retard? Bush is not a businessman? Tell that to the oil companies that him and his family have made millions on.




toggletoggle post by Hoser at Jan 6,2008 12:35pm
We should vote a moose into office. Nobody disagrees with a moose.



toggletoggle post by DomesticTerror at Jan 6,2008 1:05pm
but which moose? the black one or the cow?



toggletoggle post by SteveOTB   at Jan 6,2008 1:46pm edited Jan 6,2008 1:47pm
Damn right I'm in the presidential poll.

However it's spelled wrong, it should say "Thompson".



toggletoggle post by Niccolai   at Jan 6,2008 5:00pm
CHIODO FOR PRESIDENT!!!!!



toggletoggle post by y_ddraig_goch  at Jan 6,2008 8:30pm
Niccolai said:
CHIODO FOR PRESIDENT!!!!!


His platform:

"free tacos for everybody, meng"



toggletoggle post by Lamp  at Jan 6,2008 9:02pm
When the going gets rough he'll know how to disappear quick...



toggletoggle post by pam nli at Jan 6,2008 9:05pm
Y_Ddraig_Goch said:
pam nli said:
I don't think I ever said people shouldn't be more responsible. I'm well aware that there are pretty disgusting people out there that use a last resort as a way out of a preventable problem. HOWEVER, if we were to outlaw abortion with rape as an exception, how many of those disgusting people would get desperate and start fingering the guy they fucked to get the abortion they need. Not to mention, who is going to decide that? How can you be sure they decide without bias? It takes a year to get a court date for some punk kid breaking your car window, what do you think will happen here?

And I think it bears mentioning that Republicans vote down EVERY piece of non-abstinence only sex ed funding that comes across their face. How the fuck does it make sense to REFUSE to fund programs that teach about condoms, birth control, teen pregnancy, and STDs...vote down legislature that forces ALL pharmacies to carry the morning after pill (which has no effect on an already implanted egg, thus "aborts" nothing) but then try to blanket-ban abortion.

People are going to fuck. They're going to make bad choices. Instead of playing big brother to them and making laws that reach into a woman's fucking vagina, how about we expand efforts to teach kids not to be fucking stupid? Bring teen moms into classrooms to talk about what they went through. Make birth control available to girls without parental permission at 16 years of age or something. You can drive but you can't be on the pill? Make insurance companies cover the pill. Make it free. That's how you reduce the need for abortion, not by making laws sprung out of the "moral christian" agenda.

And Mitt Romney is a fucking moron.


Complete agreement with you there. Sex ed is no longer funded? I remember in middle school even my last year in elementary we had it, definitely a good idea.

Also, it doesnt help with pope saying condoms and any birthcontrol is akin to abortion, which is why no one in south america who is catholic uses it.


Sex ed is funded to a point, but it's a state-by-state, school-by-school sort of decision on what KIND of sex ed to teach. When I was perusing voting records for all the current candidates I saw 3 bills I can recall in the last 2 years that were voted down by all the Republicans and even a few Democrats that would provide a ton of funding for REAL sex ed. The abstinence only kind flies right through without anyone batting an eyelash. I just don't get it. What kind of moron thinks teaching kids properly will turn them into whores?

We had it in my middle school and I'm glad too. We even had teen moms come in once a year and talk to us. I can't say it was a fool-proof plan but it can't fucking hurt.

And the pope is an idiot...I almost swallowed my tongue when I read he said that. Just because he isn't getting any...

Condoms should be in bowls in every pharmacy and drug store for FREE. Then maybe people dumb enough to vote for Mitt Romney might not be born so often.



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Jan 7,2008 9:30am
RichHorror said:
Abortion should be mandatory.

DomesticTerror said:
and free.


And administered at random, in public. Especially on the bus.



toggletoggle post by Y_Ddraig_Goch  at Jan 7,2008 3:51pm
WHAT? OBAMA LEADS CTHULHU?



toggletoggle post by RonATron at Jan 7,2008 11:25pm
In the words of Jello Biafra, 'in a real democracy NONE OF THE ABOVE would be an option and if that won they'd have to find a whole new set of canidates and start over, and if less than 50% of us voted than they would also need a new election since this is not a majority.'



toggletoggle post by RonATron at Jan 7,2008 11:27pm
Once again I fear we will be left with DOUCHE BAG and TERD SANDWICH as final options. The civil majority are puppets.



toggletoggle post by ctb0derpatrol at Jan 8,2008 1:29am
BUBBLES/CONKY 08!!!! I DONT CARE IF THEY'RE CANADIAN



toggletoggle post by Y_Ddraig_Goch  at Jan 8,2008 2:43am
TOMORROW, NH PRIMARY SUCKAS!

get out and vote, or you can't bitch if they pick someone shitty...ie mitt romney, huckabee, or clinton



toggletoggle post by Hung_to_Bleed   at Jan 8,2008 2:53am
A Ron Paul/Dennis Kucinich ticket would get my vote any day.


Radicals (on both sides) all the fuckin' way. At least they have the balls to convey to the people what they really feel about all the issues at hand rather than dodging and running onto their bus *cough*cough* Hillary ughhh gughhh Clinton...



toggletoggle post by Y_Ddraig_Goch  at Jan 8,2008 3:20pm
NH PRIMARY 'TIL 8PM, GET OUT AND VOTE!

this message not brought to you by NIGGER.



toggletoggle post by pam nli at Jan 8,2008 3:26pm
Come on, Obama!



toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Jan 8,2008 3:34pm
Y_Ddraig_Goch said:
get out and vote, or you can't bitch if they pick someone shitty...ie mitt romney, huckabee, or clinton


that's how i look at it too. if you don't vote, you can't complain. if the person you voted for wins and does a suck job, you can complain that the person isn't living up to your vote. if the person you voted for loses and the winner does a shitty job, you can complain about the idiots who voted the person in.



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Jan 8,2008 3:40pm
dreadkill said:
Y_Ddraig_Goch said:
get out and vote, or you can't bitch if they pick someone shitty...ie mitt romney, huckabee, or clinton


that's how i look at it too. if you don't vote, you can't complain. if the person you voted for wins and does a suck job, you can complain that the person isn't living up to your vote. if the person you voted for loses and the winner does a shitty job, you can complain about the idiots who voted the person in.


Does that mean if you vote for the winner, and they end up being an asshole, we get to blame it on you?



toggletoggle post by Final solution at Jan 8,2008 3:41pm
Barack Obama is genetically inferior to Ron Paul...



toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Jan 8,2008 3:41pm
yes



toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Jan 8,2008 3:41pm
yes was to destroyyoualot's post.



toggletoggle post by CNV at Jan 8,2008 3:51pm
Some fat dike jus came to my door with a Hillary shirt... I waved my ron Paul sign at her .... Hahaha



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Jan 8,2008 3:53pm
dreadkill said:
yes


Yaaay!

dreadkill said:
yes was to destroyyoualot's post.


Yaaay again!

See, I'm in the other camp - until a candidate presents themselves that I wouldn't feel like a liar voting for, I'm out.

Things being as they are, I'm not seeing this happening anytime soon.



toggletoggle post by DomesticTerror at Jan 8,2008 4:32pm
IRON MY SHIRT!



toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Jan 8,2008 4:39pm
DestroyYouAlot said:
dreadkill said:
yes


Yaaay!

dreadkill said:
yes was to destroyyoualot's post.


Yaaay again!

See, I'm in the other camp - until a candidate presents themselves that I wouldn't feel like a liar voting for, I'm out.

Things being as they are, I'm not seeing this happening anytime soon.


i see that side of the coin as well. i can see how someone would rather not vote than vote for a candidate they view as shitty but not as shitty as the rest.



toggletoggle post by CNV at Jan 8,2008 5:30pm
Just cast my vote for Dr. Paul in good ol' Seabrook... Bill Clinton was down the rec center tryin to drum up support for that wench he has for a wife... My sister even got a picture with the ol womanizer...

According to the straw poles Ron Paul is going to win in New Hampshire...

Looks like it's between Israeli lapdog Clinton and Israeli lapdog Osama "african bam bada" Obama for the democrap spot...



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jan 8,2008 5:53pm
weird, the poll that I saw had ron paul at 11% in NH.



toggletoggle post by ConquerTheBaphomet  at Jan 8,2008 6:28pm
Voted in Rochester today for Ron Paul. Feels good to finally have a voice.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jan 8,2008 8:38pm
this is the first primary i didnt vote for in a long time. the numbers right now are mccain 37 and romney 35. no mention of ron paul at all.



toggletoggle post by Dankill at Jan 8,2008 9:51pm
Barak Odrama is losin' OH SNAP.



toggletoggle post by Hoser at Jan 8,2008 9:59pm
Clinton is an ugly fucking HAG.



toggletoggle post by DrewBlood   at Jan 8,2008 10:23pm
Ron Paul is a poor excuse for a congressman who could've only been elected in a state like Texas and is an awful candidate for president. I do like the fact that he speaks his mind and he says what he believes is true, but the man is completely out of touch with reality. Almost as out of touch as all of you guys who take him seriously.



toggletoggle post by DomesticTerror at Jan 8,2008 11:51pm
iron my shirt!



toggletoggle post by Lamp  at Jan 9,2008 12:25am
pam nli said:
Come on, Obama!



toggletoggle post by DaveFromTheGrave  at Jan 9,2008 12:43am
DrewBlood said:
Ron Paul is a poor excuse for a congressman who could've only been elected in a state like Texas and is an awful candidate for president. I do like the fact that he speaks his mind and he says what he believes is true, but the man is completely out of touch with reality. Almost as out of touch as all of you guys who take him seriously.


a state like texas? how insightful of you to point something like that out. Well, at least you don't stereotype people, like all those texans do.



toggletoggle post by DaveFromTheGrave  at Jan 9,2008 12:45am
Hoser said:
Clinton is an ugly fucking HAG.





toggletoggle post by Y_Ddraig_Goch  at Jan 9,2008 3:03am
FUCKING BULLSHIT, CLINTON WON?\

who won republican, McCain? not toooooo bad.



toggletoggle post by Dankill at Jan 9,2008 7:33am
DomesticTerror said:
iron my shirt!


God bless the Toucher and Rich Show.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jan 9,2008 8:45am
Republicans
McCain 37%
Romney 32%
Huckabee 11%
Giuliani 9%
Paul 8%
Thompson 1%
Hunter 0%



toggletoggle post by DrewBlood@Work at Jan 9,2008 9:05am
Looks like the Tastycrat and Fingerlican turnout was higher than expected.



toggletoggle post by Lamp  at Jan 9,2008 10:12am
Fuck Hillary Clinton, what the fuck were these people thinking?



toggletoggle post by SacreligionNLI at Jan 9,2008 3:53pm
less than half of the registered NH public actually voted, meaning only about 16% actually voted for clinton and something like 12% voted for mccain.

no candidates are worthwhile, and many people are starting to make connections between ron paul and zionist economical figures



toggletoggle post by ZJD   at Jan 9,2008 4:08pm
So who are the 6 people that voted for Romney (in this poll)?



toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Jan 9,2008 4:37pm
i tell my friends i'm voting for romney and sing his praises just to piss them off. in truth, i'd never vote for romney for president. he sucks. i voted cthulhu in this poll.



toggletoggle post by Fuck_Logging_In_NLI at Jan 9,2008 8:14pm
Dankill said:
DomesticTerror said:
iron my shirt!


God bless the Toucher and Rich Show.


did they really set that up?
I heard Rush Limbaugh talking about this today.



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