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returntothepit >> discuss >> Black Sabbath = Neil Young = Jimi Hendrix > The Beatles > Rush > Alice Cooper > Jethro Tull > Led Zeppelin >>>>>>>>Aerosmith by ZJD on Dec 17,2007 4:03pm
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toggletoggle post by ZJD   at Dec 17,2007 4:03pm
Someone recently told me that Led Zeppelin was the best rock and roll band ever and I thought that was wrong. Someone else told me the same thing about Aerosmith and fuck that.



toggletoggle post by fleshfries at Dec 17,2007 4:04pm
Keep me searching for a heeearrtt off gooohooolddd....



toggletoggle post by theloadsweblow at Dec 17,2007 4:07pm
Aerosmith is the shit. Self-titled through Rocks fucking dominate. Permanent Vacation, Pump and Get a Grip are also sick but really different in style.



toggletoggle post by theloadsweblow at Dec 17,2007 4:08pm
I would take them over Tull, Led Zep, Alic Cooper, Rush, or Neil Young anyday. Probably even over Sabbath. Beatles and Jimi are in a league of their own though.



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Dec 17,2007 4:10pm
I really lose a lot of respect for someone when I find out they're an Aerosmith fan.






I mean, not that there's anything wrong with that...



toggletoggle post by thuringwethil at Dec 17,2007 4:11pm
Venom

The Who

Jef Whitehead



toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Dec 17,2007 4:15pm
everyone knows the greatest bands ever are rush and motorhead. i like zeppelin, but they are nowhere close to the greatness of lemmy and neil peart.



toggletoggle post by sinistas   at Dec 17,2007 4:19pm
DestroyYouAlot said:
I really lose a lot of respect for someone when I find out they're an Aerosmith fan.

I mean, not that there's anything wrong with that...


Everything pre-Draw The Line is awesome, and there IS nothing wrong with people who dig that stuff. Box Of Fire FTBOMFW. I have respect for all artists on this list.



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Dec 17,2007 4:43pm
sinistas said:
DestroyYouAlot said:
I really lose a lot of respect for someone when I find out they're an Aerosmith fan.

I mean, not that there's anything wrong with that...


Everything pre-Draw The Line is awesome, and there IS nothing wrong with people who dig that stuff. Box Of Fire FTBOMFW. I have respect for all artists on this list.


I stand by my mercurial and poorly-thought-out convictions.



toggletoggle post by AUTOPSY_666   at Dec 17,2007 4:51pm
Led Zeppelin is the best rock and roll band ever.



toggletoggle post by FuckIsMySignature at Dec 17,2007 5:39pm
fleshfries said:
Keep me searching for a heeearrtt off gooohooolddd....


When ever i hear the name Neil Young all i can think of is that goddamn song lyric...and it repeats over and over like a virus. fuck



toggletoggle post by CNV at Dec 17,2007 5:42pm
AUTOPSY_666 said:
Led Zeppelin is the best rock and roll band ever.


Yup, Zeppelin was an evocation of the subconscious, same with Pink Floyd... Today's music is a reflection of the conscious (meaning it has no depth)... Turn on the tv and you will see a pack of raped ape in heat blacks flashing gold chains and bragging about how much money they have... This is regarded as "art" by today's (sub)standard...



toggletoggle post by Fuck_Logging_In_NLI at Dec 17,2007 5:45pm
CNV said:
AUTOPSY_666 said:
Led Zeppelin is the best rock and roll band ever.


Yup, Zeppelin was an evocation of the subconscious, same with Pink Floyd... Today's music is a reflection of the conscious (meaning it has no depth)... Turn on the tv and you will see a pack of raped ape in heat blacks flashing gold chains and bragging about how much money they have... This is regarded as "art" by today's (sub)standard...





toggletoggle post by i_am_lazy at Dec 17,2007 6:43pm
Whoa, whoa, whoa. Every single one of them (Yes, even the shitty Beatles) shit all over Neil Young. That guy needs to be dragged out to the street and shot already.



toggletoggle post by sinistas   at Dec 17,2007 6:46pm
Neil Young has some fantastic songs. See: Old Man, Hey Hey My My, Cinnamon Girl, etc. And calling The Beatles shitty? Eesh.



toggletoggle post by RichHorror  at Dec 17,2007 6:48pm
AUTOPSY_666 said:
Led Zeppelin is the best rock and roll band ever.


It's reasoning like that that led to production of a TON CD.



toggletoggle post by ZJD   at Dec 17,2007 6:50pm
Nobody talks about Neil Youngs best albums. On the Beach, Zuma, Tonight's the Night, and Rust Never Sleeps are my favorites and i like them more than any Beatles albums. I also think Forever Changes and Odysee and Oracle are better than Sgt. Peppers so eat my ass stuff or something.



toggletoggle post by kadooganaut at Dec 17,2007 7:48pm
Neil Young owns each and every one of your souls. Fact.



toggletoggle post by kadooganaut at Dec 17,2007 7:49pm
and I'm not exactly sure who I'd pick as the best rock n roll band ever, but they sure as shit came long before Zeppelin did. CHUCK BERRY IS KING.



toggletoggle post by SW at Dec 17,2007 8:02pm
robert johnson started it all

Robert Johnson, born Robert Leroy Johnson (May 8, 1911 – August 16, 1938) is among the most famous Delta blues musicians. His landmark recordings from 1936–1937 display a remarkable combination of singing, guitar skills, and songwriting talent that have influenced generations of musicians. Johnson's shadowy, poorly documented life and death at age 27 have given rise to much legend. Considered by some to be the "Grandfather of Rock-and-Roll", his vocal phrasing, original songs, and guitar style influenced a range of musicians, including Led Zeppelin, Bob Dylan, Johnny Winter, Jimi Hendrix, The Allman Brothers Band, The Rolling Stones, Paul Butterfield, The White Stripes, The Black Keys, Peter Gabriel, Neil Young, Warren Zevon, Red Hot Chili Peppers , and Eric Clapton , who called Johnson "the most important blues musician who ever lived".[1] He was also ranked fifth in Rolling Stone's list of 100 Greatest Guitarists of All Time.[2] He is an inductee of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. [3]





toggletoggle post by SW at Dec 17,2007 8:03pm
anyone see the face in the backround?

he sold his soul at the crossroads...



toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Dec 17,2007 8:35pm
neil young is good. his voice annoys me if i listen for long periods of time tohugh



toggletoggle post by ZJD   at Dec 17,2007 8:40pm
I cant believe nobody has flipped out about Alice Cooper yet.



toggletoggle post by AUTOPSY_666   at Dec 17,2007 8:49pm
He sucks.



toggletoggle post by GoatCatalyst   at Dec 17,2007 10:56pm
I like Dwyer and CNV a little more each day. Jimmy Page's artistry transcends plebian comprehension.



toggletoggle post by Mike_Giallo   at Dec 18,2007 12:53am
New York Dolls = Rolling Stones = The Stooges > Everyone



toggletoggle post by AUTOPSY_666   at Dec 18,2007 1:07am
LED ZEPPELIN > BLACK SABBATH > Rolling Stones



toggletoggle post by Lamp  at Dec 18,2007 1:09am
Fuck all these dudes, Chuck Berry is where it's at.



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Dec 18,2007 10:13am
RichHorror said:
AUTOPSY_666 said:
Led Zeppelin is the best rock and roll band ever.


It's reasoning like that that led to production of a TON CD.


You say that like it's a bad thing.

SW said:
robert johnson started it all

Robert Johnson, born Robert Leroy Johnson (May 8, 1911 – August 16, 1938) is among the most famous Delta blues musicians. [SNIP]


ONLY LEADBELLY IS REAL.






toggletoggle post by Yeti at Dec 18,2007 10:48am
i loathe the existence of Aerosmith.



toggletoggle post by KillerKadoogan   at Dec 18,2007 12:16pm
GoatCatalyst said:
Jimmy Page's artistry transcends plebian comprehension.


Raise your hand if you sound like a pompous douche....

Seriously, I'm all for liking whatever you like, it doesn't bother me, but THAT SENTENCE is why Led Zeppelin will NEVER BE THE GREATEST ROCK N ROLL BAND OF ALL TIME, in my opinion.



toggletoggle post by RichHorror  at Dec 18,2007 12:20pm
I can respect Jimmy Page for some of the revolutionary shit he more or less invented as far as recording is concerned, but that's about it.

Also, The Beatles are the weakest and most overrated shit ever.



toggletoggle post by DaveFromTheGrave  at Dec 18,2007 12:21pm
I lurned english reel gude!



toggletoggle post by DaveFromTheGrave  at Dec 18,2007 12:26pm
DestroyYouAlot said:
RichHorror said:
AUTOPSY_666 said:
Led Zeppelin is the best rock and roll band ever.


It's reasoning like that that led to production of a TON CD.


You say that like it's a bad thing.

SW said:
robert johnson started it all

Robert Johnson, born Robert Leroy Johnson (May 8, 1911 – August 16, 1938) is among the most famous Delta blues musicians. [SNIP]


ONLY LEADBELLY IS REAL.





I'll back that 100%. The best musicians are always violent criminals.






toggletoggle post by DaveFromTheGrave  at Dec 18,2007 12:27pm
also, aerosmith is fucking gay.



toggletoggle post by KillerKadoogan   at Dec 18,2007 12:28pm
I do loves me some Beatles. Rubber Soul, Revolver, The White Album, and Abbey Road are tasty, tasty treats. I kinda burnt myself out on Sgt Peppers, though.

The Kinks, Dick Dale, Link Wray >>> Zeppelin.



toggletoggle post by KillerKadoogan   at Dec 18,2007 12:29pm
Aerosmith is Zeppelin Lite. Fuck Tom Petty, too.



toggletoggle post by RichHorror  at Dec 18,2007 12:29pm
Link Wray! Yeah!!



toggletoggle post by DaveFromTheGrave  at Dec 18,2007 12:32pm
RichHorror said:
Link Wray! Yeah!!


mmmm-hhhmmmmmmmmmm



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Dec 18,2007 12:46pm
DaveFromTheGrave said:
DestroyYouAlot said:
ONLY LEADBELLY IS REAL.


I'll back that 100%. The best musicians are always violent criminals.


Troof. Huddie Ledbetter would just as soon stab you as look at you.

LEADBELLY IST KRIEG



toggletoggle post by DaveFromTheGrave  at Dec 18,2007 12:48pm
black metal ist black!!!



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Dec 18,2007 12:55pm
eff all of you

MOTORHEAD



toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Dec 18,2007 3:14pm
xmikex said:
eff all of you

MOTORHEAD


backed



toggletoggle post by ZJD   at Dec 18,2007 3:47pm
Motorhead doesn't belong in this equation because they aren't classic in the same way as all these bands. I was going to include the Misfits in it and took them out of this reason.

Also, The Rolling Stones are more overrated than the Beatles.



toggletoggle post by ancient master at Dec 18,2007 3:48pm
FUCK CLAPTON
FUCK PAGE
FUCK VAUGHN
FUCK LENNON

VIVA LA ULI JON ROTH



toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Dec 18,2007 3:53pm
ZJD said:
Motorhead doesn't belong in this equation because they aren't classic in the same way as all these bands. I was going to include the Misfits in it and took them out of this reason.

Also, The Rolling Stones are more overrated than the Beatles.


the stones are very overrated



toggletoggle post by aril at Dec 18,2007 4:06pm
King Crimson
Led Zeppelin
Pink Floyd
Amon Duul II (check them out if you can)
Deep Purple
Moody Blues
Emerson Lake and Palmer
The Beatles
+many more
Are all better than Aerosmith.

Although different in styles, I think it's safe to say that Aerosmith and the Stones are way overrated.

Personally, I think Zeppelin and King Crimson belong on metal-archives, but that's just me.
I don't understand why Rush is on there while KC is not. In the Court of the Crimson King is to me, one of the first metal albums.



toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Dec 18,2007 4:26pm
i like your list, especially putting amon duul II and ELP in there. i personally don't consider rush, zeppelin, or king crimson metal, but i won't deny their influence on it. when i was a kid aerosmith was my favorite band, but like sinistas said, after draw the line, they fell off the map. sure, there were some good songs after it, but never any solid albums. if aerosmith broke up after draw the line, they'd have a much better reputation and much less money in their bank accounts. what would have happened to zeppelin's reputation if bonham hadn't died and they continued on? if their music declined, it probably wouldn't fall as hard as aerosmith's did, but who knows. i think part of the legend with zeppelin and the beatles is the fact that they had pretty short careers. it's hard to sustain greatness over a long period of time, that's why i consider rush to be the best band ever, and to a lesser extent, motorhead. motorhead has sustained greatness over a long period of time, but done it with a tried and true approach that hasn't changed, kind of like ac/dc, and the songwriting remains strong more than 30 years after they started.



toggletoggle post by CNV at Dec 18,2007 5:19pm
I am going to have to say The Beach Boys are the greatest rock n roll band of all time



toggletoggle post by My_dying_bride at Dec 18,2007 6:04pm



toggletoggle post by xanonymousx at Dec 18,2007 7:32pm
aerosmith was one of my first concerts.
great show.



toggletoggle post by ancient master at Dec 18,2007 7:58pm
did I mention....



toggletoggle post by My_dying_bride at Dec 19,2007 5:10pm
100 percent backed^^^^^

scorpions' Taken by force is the shit...fuck.... in trance was one of their best as well



toggletoggle post by My_dying_bride at Dec 19,2007 8:03pm
ELO>aforementioned



toggletoggle post by This_Is_Heresy  at Dec 20,2007 12:16pm
RichHorror said:


Also, The Beatles are the weakest and most overrated shit ever.


Agreed. Fuck The Beatles. Overrated boy band.



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Dec 20,2007 12:19pm
This_Is_Heresy said:
RichHorror said:


Also, The Beatles are the weakest and most overrated shit ever.


Agreed. Fuck The Beatles. Overrated boy band.


Backed and double backed - although I have (for the first time in my life, I might add) recently come to appreciate their stuff somewhat, I still don't see what the big deal was. Listenable at best, occasionally inventive.



toggletoggle post by KillerKadoogan   at Dec 20,2007 1:59pm



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