has anyone else taken time to watch this? by the end of it i was pissed of and scared to be alive......my favorite part is when they dismantle religion in the first chapter

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5547481422995115331

yeah i haven't gotten around to watching this internet propaganda. my friend has been raving about it. meh i will have to check it out when i have some free time one of these days.

watching this now, and if an ounce of the last two parts are true....

I'm getting a gun and dusting off my survival guide tomorrow.

yeah I am in total fear now, that it is too late. I always wished to be like one of the heroes from the epics who frees the people from the tyrant, told myself those ages have passed us by. But it seems this time our tyrant is the largest dragon of all, the tallest giant, a hydra with infinite heads.

Everyone watch this, I never believe this conspiracy stuff but....this seems like it could very well be truth.

they touch on the real ID at the end, and I'm telling you now that I refuse to get one.

and they touch on income tax, I think I am going to look into this thing on having to not pay it, because there is no law or statute, they interviewd former IRS workers who have claimed to search for the law for years and have not found it yet.

fucking a world

I have a friend whose accountant basically dropped out of society and hooked up with this group based around the income tax thing. He's been doing it on ten years now, and they apparently haven't been able to pin shit on him.

Oh, and, yeah - we're fucked. Buy a gun and a cabin.

Great documentary! Check out>
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5522575736561316064

"One nation under seige" That'll scare the poop outta you.

dammit, now I gotta watch this

Y_Ddraig_Goch said:

Have you seen "America - Freedom to Fascism"? There's a lot about the real ID & Taxes/Fed Reserve in that. Also in the doc I posted above.

America... Land of the greed, home of the slave.

mOe said:

I recomend that everyone watch these! Reality is entertaining.

I'm starting to watch the one about how we have been using out nuclear leftovers as bombs and weapons in Iraq...and how it is the gulf war syndrome.

Man, us RTTPers gotta watch the news for a while and when the shit gets going bust out our guns and protect our land.

I wonder how many people if they watched this stuff would believe in some of it enough to defend themselves from all this stealing of liberties. Or is everyone so brainwashed to say it is all lies and anti-american propaganda

Religion, racism, nationalism...they are all tools meant to divide and conquer.

but how can you know its true? i haven't watched it yet, and i'm not saying it isn't, but how can anyone know its not just conspiracy theorists making a big deal out of nothing? i am just curious.

Y_Ddraig_Goch said:

Oh yeah, there's 2 previews for other docs @ the beginning of that. That's the depleted uranium thing you're seeing. Fuck the news! It's just a brainwashing tool. You gotta search for the news & decide the truth for yourself.

Yeti said:

Watch em & decide for yourself if these people are lying or telling the truth. You don't need someone to determine fact from fiction for you, it's all there in black & white. Which side makes more sense?

fair enough

i fell like some fucked up shit is going to happen in the u.s. in my lifetime. i felt it before i even watched this vid. the gap between the rich and poor, religious fundamentalism by any religion, any sort of id or tracking(which is allready in place because we need a ssn for pretty much anything now) can all lead to some really bad situations. plus the fact that anybody with children is easily swayed just so they can keep their kids safe, even in a shitty society.

Y_Ddraig_Goch said:

Good luck with that. You ever notice that even the "free" states like NH that allow people to keep guns want you registered?

When they come to get you, they're coming heavy.

The only true militia we'll ever be able to come up with will consist of gangbangers and rednecks with rifles, and most of them lack the training, practice, or ability to cooperate to ever be a threat.

Those of us who have legal firearms will be even more fucked if they ever pull this ID crap. Think about it: you'll need a chip to get a gun. How tough is it to fight a militia that you can throw on your radar?

I will never, ever, ever accept an ID chip. I'll go homeless and die first.

I already knew the stuff about ww1 and ww2 being set ups, but it was pretty creepy seeing them talk about vietnam with the declassified documents telling soldiers not to bomb anykind of high technology the north was using till getting clearance, and not to destroy anti-aircraft devices until they knew they were operational.

how vietnam was not meant to be won, but to drag out as long as possible


too bad we are all the lowest of the low. we need to hide out and try to rise to the top.

funny how everyone in the video through history that was talking about this were all assassinated

ArrowHead likes Pie said:




same here brother, I'm not even going to get one of those real IDs and I hope my state stays on the opposition.

Y_Ddraig_Goch said:


I won't mind the card. The way I see it, all my info is already contained on my driver's license. The card will just make sure that the same holds true for everyone, regardless of what licenses or ID's they may have.

The only thing I'd be against is having the card give easy access to criminal access, employment history, etc.. etc.. and have that get used against people for employment.

Of course, I'm a little liberal at times. I'm totally against drug testing for employment, although it bears merit in safety related fields, like if you're driving a Mac Truck while snorting cocaine.

ArrowHead likes Pie said:

Strictly speaking, regarding personal privacy over anything else would be a conservative principle.

One I strongly agree with, BTW.

Let's see who has sand in their vagina.

That eagle is totally ripped on meth, right now.

FUCK

"video is no longer available"

Michael Moore loves the cock.

Y_Ddraig_Goch said:

Iraq is the same deal. War = $$$

horror_tang said:

Michael Moore's a douche. He doesn't ask any real questions, he questions the common sense. It's meant to keep people from asking the real questions.

fuck society, I guess I will live among all these lies balancing the truth and the lies and accepting which I believe to be real and try to live life until I get some power, maybe then I can deal with all this junk with some money and guns behind me.

right now I'd just be branded a maniac or a terrorist if I tried to do anything

america has always been an imperialistic irrumator

we just have better technology in the present

nothing's changed, nothing will change

popular / convenience culture has sedated / fattened the majority of americans past the point of caring

i'm personally banking on the nuclear eradication of israel which will herald the triumphant arrival of the antichrist.

i'll be the one with the sniper rifle picking off the jesus-kissers as they ascend to heaven in their rapture.

goatcatalyst said:

I think that's the biggest problem... People just don't care. They've been conditioned to ignore or have been dumbed down too far to understand.

If we are talking about this, do we understand, or is there an even deeper level that the conspiracy is actually even deeper and is a puppet for something else even more devious?

how many wars - and on an even more frightening level, how many covert actions - have been undertaken to protect / preserve "american interests" (read: big business interests).

we "fight tyranny" (iraq) while backing super-tyrants with zero regard for human rights (central & south america)

for who?

big business

who gets the most ridiculous tax cuts?

big business

who finances the politicians that ensure that things keep going this way?

big business

ps - anybody posting in or reading this thread who hasn't read howard zinn's "a people's history of the united states" ... please do so

I can't help but picture this guy as the voice over in the beginning monologue. Some of you people actually buy this crap? That's the most fucked up part about this less-believable-than-Michael Moore "documentary.

IT'S ALL A CONSPIRACY - OMFG, YOU HAVE ALL BEEN LIED TO - DRINK THE KOOL-AID AND PUT ON YOUR FUCKING NIKES.

WTF Happened there?

goatcatalyst said:

+ 1,000,000

Anyone who thinks 911 was done by 19 arab hijackers is a racist. It was obviously done by rich white people seeking to gain further control and influence over impressionable people's lives.

hungtableed said:

plausible and consistent

goatcatalyst said:

Just dusted off my copy an hour ago.

this changes my world of perception

Anybody who watches a half dozen videos on google and youtube and starts talking about how we have to open up our eyes because 9/11 is a hoax and jews are really shapeshifting lizardmen are more obnoxious than an unstoppable army of HailTheLeaf clones. you're faggoty losers, I'm sorry you had to hear it from me but in time you will come to terms with it and start on the road to recovery

if the rfid comes to fruition i'm movin out of the country or killin myself. Cuz in death man is free

MikePile said:

Who said anything about Jews & lizardmen? And do you really believe the official explaination of 9-11?

Dr. sphincto said:

easy on the Carnivore there, bud

Dr. sphincto said:

All passports issued after Jan 2007 are equipped w/ RFID. And I believe you need a passport to cross into Canada & Mexico now.

i'm going to the passport office tomorrow to get mine for my trip to the Bahamas next week...

however, i'm not taking the time to watch this paranoid hippie horseshit...

would someone (not a jew - i'm onto your agenda) please break down this "RFID" thing that i'll be exposing my gentile peepee to, please?

goatcatalyst said:

RFID= radio frequency identification chip. It can be used to track you anywhere. It can be embedded in anything, including under your skin. Some are the size of a quarter, some are as small as a grain of rice, some are rumored to be even smaller.
The idea is that you can apply it to every consumer product out there, implant the chip in everyone & eliminate physical money. This would officially render you a slave, cause when you don't comply they just shut off your chip. There's no need for this in a "free" society.

This isn't a Jew agenda either. It's a very diverse group behind this.

so basically... the jews will know where my passport is

... not necessarily me

i'm just kidding/busting balls with the "jew" thing. i love jews. not even kidding.

MikePile said:

Nicely said. If your perception of 911 is changed by Youtube/Google video-conspiracy theory "documentaries", then you my friend, are EVEN MORE CRAZY than the people you think who are just "buying" the gov's explanation of the events of that somber day.

Drink up....

those slightly sobered by the video, are just viewing the tip of the iceberg...i would suggest further research of those topics.

Arrowhead is pretty much right, a revolution would never succeed not only would most people that took part have no training but the opposition would. and guess what? if riots/revolution attempt broke out it wouldn't just be the U.S. military fighting the citizens, say hello to Interpol and the U.N.

and while you are contemplating the RFID chip check out NBIC(nano-bio-info-cognitive) technology which is a fusion of emerging technologies. how about injecting biochips into your veins that attach to you bloodcells? through this being connected by satellite to a supercomputer?

THINK THIS IS A FAKE PARANOIS CONSPIRACY THEORY??

look up:
NBIC
The Omega Point - Pierre Teilhard de Chardin
Transhumanism


and 1 more thing, ANYONE who mocks something they don't understand or haven't even researched is a poster-child for ignorance and arrogance.

p.s. putting RFID chips(reality) and lizard men(fantasy) in the same category = ignorance(childish attempt at condescending humor)

*paranoid

You are all ignorant. The true conspiracy is the alien conspiracy. The end is near.

we shall see what is true in 2012

Hungtableed said:

If you didn't already know that you couldn't trust the government not to lie reflexively to the public, then you're probably beyond hope. Enjoy your barcode tattoo.

SW said:

Well said. I've seen countless docs on many "conspiracy" subjects, everything from 9-11 to 7-7 to peak oil, MK Ultra, JFK, RFK, Weather modification, Secret Societies, false flag terrorism, ET's/UFO's/time travel, zero point energy, US concentration camps, RFID/Real ID, Patriot act, etc. The list goes on & on. There's a lot of bullshit disinformation out there too. If you have an open mind (3rd eye) & a desire to find some truth, you quickly learn to see what's bullshit & what's truth. And when you understand the reality in all of this, you see that almost all of these things are tied together & lead back to the same people. Step one is asking questions. step two is looking for answers.

SW said:

yeah you're probably right, there has been a lot of microchips in my feces lately which was a little concerning. Thank you for this and I apologize for my behavior. OK EVERYBODY, START TAKING THIS SERIOUSLY...NNNNNNNOW

I don't even know where to begin or what to say. I really, really don't.

so i just got my fancy new "electronic" passport. says it will expedite my passage into foreign lands

ZAPPA DID 9/11

I HEARD IT WAS ABBA

Proof that Will Smith is evil, soon he plans on being THE LAST MAN ON EARTH

He had some help from Hulkster

I've been researching stuff like this for awhile, that movie did open my eyes to a lot of stuff I still didn't know. It's scary indeed.

I can only hope that people will open their eyes, but if this thread is any indication then I believe that a lot of people still will believe and follow their government and/or religion regardless.

i ain't evar scurred

Oh come on, we all know that those pictures of the Hulk were VERY CLEARLY tampered with.

They were edited so as to not show the true destructive force of the hulkster and all the talibanamaniacs

oh and fuck this whole movie for suggesting that my ipod is evil. any device which allows me to have megadeth/overkill/anthrax and black sabbaths entire discography at my fingertips when and wherever i may be can't possibly be evil, right?

i have dead kennedys on there too for all you POLITICOS.

NoodleFace said:

and I can't wait for Jesus to come back and punish you and all your asshole buddies for not obeying his faithful servant, George W Bush.

I finally got a chance to watch this last night. I'm sure who ever finished the movie knows that same feeling of just recently watching this. It was hard for me to believe in the explanation of 9/11 to begin with. It is just so much harder now to try and believe it. Any one who thinks that terrorists did it should be asked how building 7 fell. I'm sure they won't know what your talking about.

Aura_At_Dusk said:

I've had that happen so many times. Most people have no clue, cause most people just don't care.

yeah... i finished this a few days ago and im still in the same state i was the second it was over. shit really is scary.

yea i finally watched all of this. its pretty fucked up if it is true. not sure if all of it is fact though, i mean he did pronounce colonel wrong...did anyone else catch that?

the part about real ID's is definitely true, so is the plan for the NAU, it's just that it's never on the news cause there's more important stuff like paris hilton and barry bonds

It's just unbelievable how much they can hide things from everyone. They don't teach you in school about the concentration camps that we had in the US during WWII. Anyone who was suspicious and looked Japanese was put in these camps...
I know there is a movement going on in Germany to say that the halocaust never happened. They don't talk about it and don't teach it too their kids, so if they never left Germany they may never know any of that happened.

I was taught about american concentration camps in school, maybe I just had an angry teacher. Coincidentally, we also studied Vietnam for about 2 months and how awful our country is.

The things that really worry me about this movie was the stuff about the International Banking, I really didn't know the vice grip they had set up.

goatcatalyst said:>>
and I can't wait for Jesus to come back and punish you and all your asshole buddies for not obeying his faithful servant, George W Bush.>>

here's another thing, anyone who thinks George Bush or any other money hungry politician really believes in God/Jesus, is sadly mistaken

the wealthy politicians and above all the richest orginization in the world, the Vatican, use God to gain the trust of the ignorant people who believe in God. you will find, through dedicated research, that the pope(ratzinger),the black pope(kolvenbach),high ranking cardinals, and most elite politicians worship, the great architect of Freemasonry, Lucifer. i know it's hard for you death and black metallers out there to accept that it it not evil christians controlling the world, but in fact, evil satanists pretending to be christians.

more reading:
Alberto Rivera(www.chick.com)
Morals and Dogma by Albert Pike(33rd degree mason)- in this book it is admitted that Lucifer is the god of masonry
www.conspiracyarchive.com
www.nwowatcher.com (forum)

much respect to DEATH2ALL for your persistence and research

Thanks, same to you! You've clearly spent a lot of time on this stuff too.
If anyone is confused about what he said about the white pope & the black pope, etc.... check this out....
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8...2&q=Michael+Tsarion+duration%3Along

Holy...Holy shit...

This is the first thing that i've ever seen that has actually changed my perspective on everything. I don't beleive everything I see at first, so i'm going to do a bunch more research about this. but god damn...fuck...time to get a shotgun and move to a cabin

secthammer said:

i've heard that so many times haha.....i think we should start an RTTP cult....and have a hidden city of cabins somewhere deep in a forest.....where murder is legal

Can I be Mayor?

http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/index.html

I thought I was going to see a trailer.. but this is the whole movie...

the_reverend said:

What did you think?

I watched like 5 minutes of it.
couldn't yet figure out why someone made it and then did something else.

blah, the first part (if true) was interesting.
the second part was gay. stuff I had already seen and southpark already did an episode on.
watching/listening to the 3rd part now.

felt the same way about it.

wow, the 1:30 part about the UK soldiers is pretty interesting.

the part at like 1:09 is fucked when the dude is on the phone from the world trade center.......................

all this shit is fucked up. thank god im living now and will hopefully die before this gets way out of control. its already out of control actually.

I need to see the movie network now. sooo many samples.

the_reverend said:

Yeah! "You've got to get mad, damnit!!!"

everyone should see this movie...truely chilling.

THE USA IS GOING DOWN

SAY GOODBYE WHITEYS

IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN A BLACK MAN'S WORLD!

holy fuckin crap.intense!

FuckIsMySignature said:

i finally got a chance to see this. it made me sick to my stomache. literally.

zeitgeist is the most powerful film since The Corporation. Which coincidently was put out by Zeitgeist Films

i'm not gonna be able to sleep tonight now.

definitely one of the most important movies to watch on the internet of all time...fucking blew me away.

Q Thank you. As you three leaders meet here, there are a growing number of people in each of your countries who have expressed concern about the Security and Prosperity Partnership. This is addressed to all three of you. Can you say today that this is not a prelude to a North American union, similar to a European Union? Are there plans to build some kind of superhighway connecting all three countries? And do you believe all of these theories about a possible erosion of national identity stem from a lack of transparency from this partnership?

PRIME MINISTER HARPER: Well, let me begin. And I guess I read some things from my opposition in Canada -- I'm not sure these are generally expressed concerns, but a couple of my opposition leaders have speculated on massive water diversions and superhighways to the continent -- maybe interplanetary, I'm not sure, as well. (Laughter.) I even -- there were reports of a former Prime Minister lurking in the hallways -- I have yet to see him. (Laughter.)

Look, we have an enormous trading commercial relationship. It's important that the leaders of that trading relationship get together periodically, have discussions, just as it's important at every level -- ministerial level, official level -- that they're getting together and talking and making sure they're working out problems.

You know, we had some business leaders in front of us today; one in particular said, you know, the rules for jelly beans -- he manufactures jelly beans -- the rules for jelly bean contents are different in Canada and the United States; they have to maintain two separate inventories. Is the sovereignty of Canada going to fall apart if we standardize the jelly bean? I don't think so. Maybe Mr. Dion thinks so, but I don't think so.

So these are pragmatic, practical discussions. In fact, it was my predecessor in the Liberal Party who initiated them. And ultimately, of course, for the decisions, we're responsible to our respective populations. We're a democratic system and, as President Calderón mentioned, I have to listen to that practical input every single day in parliament.

PRESIDENT CALDERÓN: (As translated.) Well, in fact, I'll be happy with one step in Mexicali and one in Tijuana. In actual fact, there are several myths about this meeting, some more jovial, funnier than others. What we tried to do is simply to meet, talk about our common problems and see what we can do in practical terms in order to improve the lives of our people. Whether it's to standardize the parameters for chocolates or medicines, I think these are common-sense things, and moreover, I think -- I'll tell you this very clearly -- I think that as a region, we are losing competitiveness in comparison with other regions in the world.

And it's not a question of customs unions, let alone having an integration that would actually encroach on the sovereignty and culture and resources of each country. We simply have to take advantage of this opportunity of being neighbors and allies in order to generate prosperity and security for our people. That is the purpose of these meetings.

Now, let me tell you, at times I would even like to work faster, review more issues, but we have to be very patient. And something that we did talk about also, which is part of my responsibility, or our responsibilities as leaders, is to talk to the people and tell them why it's important to have better trading rules, why it's important not to have so many barriers between ourselves, why it's important to resolve issues such as immigration, investment, because that could actually improve the quality of life for our people. It could mean the Mexican consumers could have better products, Canadian products, U.S. products and -- well, Mexican products also -- because there would be more investment in our country, which requires thousands and thousands of jobs in order to resolve the problems of the people. And when that happens, when there's investment -- and there's only investment when there is competitiveness. And we do have a way to go in that regard.

PRESIDENT BUSH: We represent three great nations. We each respect each other's sovereignty. You know, there are some who would like to frighten our fellow citizens into believing that relations between us are harmful for our respective peoples. I just believe they're wrong. I believe it's in our interest to trade; I believe it's in our interest to dialogue; I believe it's in our interest to work out common problems for the good of our people.

And I'm amused by some of the speculation, some of the old -- you can call them political scare tactics. If you've been in politics as long as I have, you get used to that kind of technique where you lay out a conspiracy and then force people to try to prove it doesn't exist. That's just the way some people operate. I'm here representing my nation. I feel strongly that the United States is a force for good, and I feel strongly that by working with our neighbors we can a stronger force for good.

So I appreciate that question. I'm amused by the difference between what actually takes place in the meetings and what some are trying to say takes place. It's quite comical, actually, when you realize the difference between reality and what some people are talking on TV about.

PRIME MINISTER HARPER: (As translated.) Might I add, in French, I did not know that there were these major plots that were mentioned by the head of the opposition, Mr. Martin, a Liberal prime minister, who initiated these discussions, I believe, for Mr. Dion. It is a rather regressive step backwards to this whole question of our NAFTA discussions and SPP.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2007/08/20070821-3.html

another similar video that picks up where Zeitgeist left off

-Govt World Enslavement
-Carbon Tax
-NAFTA superhighway


http://video.google.com/googleplayer.swf?d...ocId=1070329053600562261&autoplay=1

Bringing this back, just watched this again.

Can we start a militia, organize stuff, recruit people....

Start a revolution and overthrow the federal reserve?

I'd be with you on that.

58 min in

how can anyone take this (pathetic excuse for a) man, george w. bush, seriously?

Hungtableed said:

well said again. it's worth considering if zeitgeist is a scholarly source. although, im sure there are those who would probably assert that scholastics, in and of it self, are just another tool devised to keep us in order. the whole film, although entertaining, stinks of left wing propaganda, kinda like a paint by numbers conspiracy theory. lemmings to the sea!

corpus_colostomy said:

what you mean like militant crust punks? nyuk nyuk

what the fuck is this new Alex Jones movie? first theres a three minute long montage of spooky nonsense, and now 80% of the population is dead and theres no more families and the population is capped at 500 million and cameras watch you poop or something. this would be a action-packed summer blockbuster if the braindead dweebs watching it didn't treat it as fucking gospel

While I don't agree with everythin in there. There are valid points that these naysayers miss because they just don't watch it, assuming it's left wing propaganda.

I mean, if you take the government's explanation for 9/11 you're a moron.

four planes were hijacked by dirty arabs from the mountains and then flown into certain targets at 500 miles an hour by pilots who could barely fly cesnas.

Oh and somehow they got past military security in D.C? How could the highest defensive center in the world be hit by a jumbo jet?

And why were all video surveillance tapes in the area confiscated? if it showed the planes wouldn't they release them?


and how did Norad fail to take down any of the planes?


and why in the official explanation was there no mention of building 7 of the world trade center?

why did bush and cheney not appear separate, to be interviewed separatly right after? They wouldn't talk unless they were together


oh right, I'm crazy for not trusting my government!

They give me bread and circus, I should not question them!

dismissing it for leftist propaganda? what a reactionary--

MORE LIKE: what im saying, is i am NO MORE likely to get in line and accept Zeitgeist as truth, than i am to buy into the american government's bullshit excuses, justifications, and or explanations for where we are, post 9/11.

I just think it's hilarious how externally reactive most people are,
in their fury to cling to one side or the other--which is in some respect symbolic of this countries bi-partisan polarity at the moment.
porphyria was right, "the frailties of humanity," are numerous.

SO:
why trust lefty and why trust righty, when the whole thing is clearly FUCKING broken!?

TIME TO MARCH!

HAHAHAHA I just filled out a passport form


and you have to sign it stating underoath that you have never taken arms or plotted to dissent from the government, or overthrow the government!

how patriotic, why the government? the government is not the US, I love the US, just the government sucks

Y_Ddraig_Goch said:

amen brother!