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returntothepit >> discuss >> A banner I just made by hung_to_bleed on Mar 13,2007 8:50pm
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toggletoggle post by hung_to_bleed   at Mar 13,2007 8:50pm


Considering I have negative formal education in graphic design, I'm quite proud of myself with this final copy of a banner I put together this afternoon. I did it for free too - for a bunch of dudes in some band that I'll probably never cross paths with only because I thought they fucking killed.

for the mentally handicapped, their link is:
http://www.myspace.com/divulsiveimpalement



toggletoggle post by Niccolai   at Mar 13,2007 8:57pm
Banners are supposed to be 468x60.

It's pretty much a graphic designing law.

also, you always want to keep animated banners under 100kb with fewer then 20 frames.

on a phone modem, that thing would take a week to load, and many places that post banners (like the top of RTTP) won't post a banner that isn't 486x60.

It doesn't look like a bad banner at all, it's just too big.



toggletoggle post by Niccolai   at Mar 13,2007 8:58pm
see the thread I made about a week ago for some tips on making the banners file size smaller:

http://returntothepit.com/view.php?formid=39229



toggletoggle post by hung_to_bleed   at Mar 13,2007 9:05pm
thanks for the advise man. I just guessed on the size. 468x60 is obviously in terms of pixels, right? - shows how much I know....

My mistakes are obviously due to my lack of education in the successful use of such media. I never thought of it, but your comment on the load time on a dial up connection is 100% dead on. I'm getting shit prepared to make a new Burn my Remains banner and I will take your expertise into consideration.



toggletoggle post by menstrual_sweatpants_disco   at Mar 13,2007 9:11pm
Niccolai said:
also, you always want to keep animated banners under 100kb with fewer then 20 frames.


I definitely ignored that rule...




toggletoggle post by Niccolai   at Mar 13,2007 9:13pm edited Mar 13,2007 9:18pm
When I started making banners I had no idea on the proper size or load time either, but SteveOTB was really helpfull, he knows his shit.

That divulsive impalement banner works fine by itself, but if someone were to put it on their myspace for example with 5 or 6 other animated banners, it would take forever to load and would slow the whole page down, even on a broadband modem.

here's the last one I did:



when I first did it, there were over 200 frames, took over 1000 kilobytes, and took like a minute to fully load.

buy reducing the colors (from 250 to 32) and cutting the frames down (I went from over 200 to under 20), I cut the file size to peices.



toggletoggle post by Niccolai   at Mar 13,2007 9:19pm
menstrual_sweatpants_disco said:
Niccolai said:
also, you always want to keep animated banners under 100kb with fewer then 20 frames.


I definitely ignored that rule...



It doesn't even matter because that banner is the most badass thing ever.



toggletoggle post by hung_to_bleed   at Mar 13,2007 9:47pm
pretty fucking tight...tight like an asshole should be.





toggletoggle post by hung_to_bleed   at Mar 13,2007 9:49pm
under 100kb....is that why a lot of banners I usually see are often pixelated? - because you should reduce the colors and image quality?



toggletoggle post by hung_to_bleed   at Mar 13,2007 9:49pm
btw: that BOE banner is pretty fucking awesome.



toggletoggle post by menstrual_sweatpants_disco   at Mar 13,2007 10:18pm
Thanks homies. ...the real one doesn't say aborted reindeer snowcones though haha.



toggletoggle post by Troll at Mar 13,2007 10:24pm
I'd like to learn how to do this shit!
Any info would be appreciated!



toggletoggle post by Niccolai   at Mar 13,2007 10:25pm
troll, if you go to jasc.com you can download animation shop for free, and it's pretty easy to use from there. you can look up tutorials on google.



toggletoggle post by Troll at Mar 13,2007 10:26pm
I'm on it ,thanx!



toggletoggle post by hungtableed at Mar 13,2007 10:48pm
I use Photoshop to make the individual frames - then render each photoshop file as a .jpg and import those in Imageready with each frame being derived from the .jpg layers. or something like that...
If I had cs2 I wouldn't have to use Imageready.



toggletoggle post by menstrual_sweatpants_disco   at Mar 13,2007 10:57pm
hungtableed said:
I use Photoshop to make the individual frames - then render each photoshop file as a .jpg and import those in Imageready with each frame being derived from the .jpg layers. or something like that...
If I had cs2 I wouldn't have to use Imageready.


I do the same thing except I put the actual gif together with Jasc animation shop. I only use that because that's what I've been using for years before Imageready started coming with Photoshop.



toggletoggle post by hungtableed at Mar 13,2007 11:00pm
I used cs2 for a while and was pissed to learn that photoshop 7 didn't have the animation option. Then one day I accidentally opened a file with imageready and saw that the option was available there. Is the setup of Jasc similar to Imageready? I once researched free .gif animators and only came up with shitty programs that I was completely uninterested in using.



toggletoggle post by deadlikemurf  at Mar 14,2007 3:02am
where's that thread w/ all the banners in it



toggletoggle post by W3 @ work and still NLI at Mar 14,2007 4:48am
any chance anyone of you amazingly talented doods would wanna make a banner for TS



toggletoggle post by SteveOTB   at Mar 14,2007 8:37am
W3 @ work and still NLI said:
any chance anyone of you amazingly talented doods would wanna make a banner for TS


I will, I need to build up my portfolio anyway.

How about I just hook everyone up. No charge. Of course if I say no charge atleast give me some time considering I may have a bunch of people wanting free banners, me working full time, and playing shows. But if you don't mind slight delays I'll do it.



toggletoggle post by W3 nli at Mar 14,2007 8:47am
naw man, if you can do one that'd be sweet. im in no rush, i mean i asked mark richards like three months ago to draw something for our next record and i havent seen anything from him yet.

so when you can do it, cool.



toggletoggle post by SteveOTB   at Mar 14,2007 9:10am
W3 nli said:
naw man, if you can do one that'd be sweet. im in no rush, i mean i asked mark richards like three months ago to draw something for our next record and i havent seen anything from him yet.

so when you can do it, cool.


All I need from you is possibly a logo, a general idea of what you're looking for, what you'd like in the banner and I can basically do the rest. You can shoot me an e-mail to steve@ofthebetrayed.com with what you like.



toggletoggle post by hungtableed at Mar 14,2007 9:10am
I can make a TS banner. The more the merrier right?
I was thinking a good idea (I'm gonna do for BMR at least) would be to make one that hotlinks to your band's "add friend' myspace link rather than linking to the actual site. Anyone that clicks on it that isn't on your buddy list will get added. ...I'm sure it was already thought of.



toggletoggle post by hungtableed at Mar 14,2007 9:11am
anyone who makes the TS has to include the "Fuck your core" slogan (or whatever it was)



toggletoggle post by hungtableed at Mar 23,2007 7:23pm


w00t! I kept the size relatively standard, however, I completely ignored the 20 frame law - this one is 39.



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