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returntothepit >> discuss >> 19" monitor disapreciation thread. by niccolai nli on Jan 7,2007 12:52am
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toggletoggle post by niccolai nli at Jan 7,2007 12:52am
So I got a 19 inch monitor not to long ago and it's really good for some stuff like gaming, movies, and reading RTTP, BUT with about 95% of my time on the computer, I'm looking at guitars.

The 19" monitor makes the pictures wide and short, which makes guitars look unatractive.


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toggletoggle post by niccolai nli at Jan 7,2007 12:58am
anyone feel my pain?



toggletoggle post by menstrual_sweatpants_disco   at Jan 7,2007 1:01am
Is your monitor 16:10 or 4:3?

What resolution are you using?

Nothing should be out of proportion like you're describing.



toggletoggle post by niccolai nli at Jan 7,2007 1:14am
I have it set at 1152x864, but it gets worse as i raise the resolution. it has a 1440 x 900 maximum resolution. 500:1 contrast ratio



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jan 7,2007 1:29am
MSD is spot on. you are using the wrong resolution. I can't use anything below 21" cause I need 1200 hieght for coding. are work, I have dual 21"s and at home I have my laptop hooked up to a 24" LCD (1900x1200) which was only $600-ish



toggletoggle post by DeRtOxIa   at Jan 7,2007 1:52am
yeah for the longest time i had my monitor set at 1024x768 and i thought it looked pretty bad. Then one day i just set it at 1280x1024 which is its native resolution. Monitors look so much better at their native resolution.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jan 7,2007 1:57am
here's a secret, when you log into RTTP, it tells me what resolution you guys use. a lot of you use shitty resolutions... I don't know how you guys deal with it. I know that I couldnt.



toggletoggle post by davefromthegrave  at Jan 7,2007 2:00am
the_reverend said:
here's a secret, when you log into RTTP, it tells me what resolution you guys use. a lot of you use shitty resolutions... I don't know how you guys deal with it. I know that I couldnt.





toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jan 7,2007 2:02am
close. less hair up front, more hair in the back.



toggletoggle post by RichHorror  at Jan 7,2007 2:03am
OMG IS MY RESOLUTION GOOD???



toggletoggle post by Niccolai   at Jan 7,2007 2:45am
Well what resolution should i be using?



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jan 7,2007 4:01am
1440x900 is what the monitor can do or your video card can do.
you want to figure out it's native resolution.
my 19"'s native resolution is 1280x1024



toggletoggle post by menstrual_sweatpants_disco   at Jan 7,2007 9:05am
Niccolai said:
Well what resolution should i be using?


Is your monitor widescreen? (16:10) or regular? (4:3)?



toggletoggle post by sxealex   at Jan 7,2007 12:08pm
doesnt the system configurationfigure this out for you in windows...? my systems did for me and gave me a very short list of possible recommended resolutions. how did u guys end up with fucked up resolutions?



toggletoggle post by Niccolai   at Jan 7,2007 1:09pm
menstrual_sweatpants_disco said:
Niccolai said:
Well what resolution should i be using?


Is your monitor widescreen? (16:10) or regular? (4:3)?


widescreen



toggletoggle post by powerkok   at Jan 7,2007 1:36pm
Rev knows my resolution is the fucking best.



toggletoggle post by powerkok   at Jan 7,2007 1:36pm
1280x1024 byotch's



toggletoggle post by menstrual_sweatpants_disco   at Jan 7,2007 3:09pm
Niccolai said:
menstrual_sweatpants_disco said:
Niccolai said:
Well what resolution should i be using?


Is your monitor widescreen? (16:10) or regular? (4:3)?


widescreen


Yeah, sounds like you're using a 4:3 resolution on a 16:10 monitor. Check your monitor's documentation and see what the native resolution they recommend using is. The monitor will always look it's best in the native resolution.



toggletoggle post by Niccolai   at Jan 7,2007 3:21pm
It sais the native resolution is 1440 x 900 but when I so to my display settings, that resolution isn't an option. Is that because of my graphics card?



toggletoggle post by menstrual_sweatpants_disco   at Jan 7,2007 3:42pm
Yeah, it sounds like your graphics card doesn't support that resolution. What kind of card is it?



toggletoggle post by xanonymousx at Jan 7,2007 3:47pm
on my computer upstairs someone keeps changing to resolution to 800x600 because they 'cannot see'
and then complain when they upload an image from a digital camera because it is too big.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jan 7,2007 4:33pm
you just need to search for the driver. your computers probably from pre-wide screens



toggletoggle post by Niccolai   at Jan 7,2007 6:34pm
where would I go about finding this driver?



toggletoggle post by menstrual_sweatpants_disco   at Jan 7,2007 6:38pm
What kind of computer is it?



toggletoggle post by menstrual_sweatpants_disco   at Jan 7,2007 6:38pm
What kind of graphics card is it?



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jan 7,2007 6:38pm
look at he monitor and go to the company's website. then look up support, downloads, and look for the your monitor.



toggletoggle post by Niccolai   at Jan 7,2007 6:56pm
Computer: Hp Pavillion 510w
Graphic card: No friggin clue
Monitor: Westinghouse LCM-19w4 19" Widescreen Monitor

the companies website doesn't have downloads.



toggletoggle post by succubus  at Jan 7,2007 6:57pm
aaron, what if his issue s like mine?



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jan 7,2007 6:59pm
if you are telling me that HP doesn't have a downloads section, next time I see you, I'm tapping you in the balls when you are 'singing'.
do some searching dick. it's called google.



toggletoggle post by succubus  at Jan 7,2007 7:02pm
succubus said:
aaron, what if his issues are like mine?


nic, when you open firefox, does it look ok?




toggletoggle post by Niccolai   at Jan 7,2007 7:04pm
the_reverend said:
if you are telling me that HP doesn't have a downloads section, next time I see you, I'm tapping you in the balls when you are 'singing'.
do some searching dick. it's called google.


No, I'm saying westinghouse doesn't.



toggletoggle post by Niccolai   at Jan 7,2007 7:05pm
succubus said:
succubus said:
aaron, what if his issues are like mine?


nic, when you open firefox, does it look ok?



Nothings readible on firefox, which is why i don't use it on this computer.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jan 7,2007 7:18pm
carina, your issue is nothing like his. not even remotely close.

nico, just google for driver and then the model #. do you need some one to come hold your hand? put on a diaper and maybe MSD will come ovah.



toggletoggle post by Niccolai   at Jan 7,2007 7:54pm
is it possible that this graphics card just doesn't support this monitors native resolution?



toggletoggle post by xanonymousx at Jan 7,2007 7:57pm
Niccolai said:
Computer: Hp Pavillion 510w
Graphic card: No friggin clue
Monitor: Westinghouse LCM-19w4 19" Widescreen Monitor

the companies website doesn't have downloads.


when you go to properties and change your screen res. it should tell you what graphic card you are running.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jan 7,2007 7:58pm
eh, it's possibl but highly unlikely. especially if you haven't tried fining the driver. if you are an ass and can't find it, just use the program power strip and make you own.



toggletoggle post by xanonymousx at Jan 7,2007 7:58pm
Niccolai said:
is it possible that this graphics card just doesn't support this monitors native resolution?


could be. you would have to see what graphic card you have.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jan 7,2007 8:00pm
I want a laptop with 1440x900



toggletoggle post by succubus  at Jan 7,2007 8:03pm
the_reverend said:
carina, your issue is nothing like his. not even remotely close.



is that why you couldn't fix it?

:(




toggletoggle post by Niccolai   at Jan 7,2007 8:04pm edited Jan 7,2007 8:06pm
The graphic card is an intel 82810 and I've downloaded and installed the driver on their website. Still, 1440 x 900 is not coming up as an option.



toggletoggle post by xanonymousx at Jan 7,2007 8:28pm
try rebooting. if you haven't already.
if that doesn't work get a nice videocard.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jan 7,2007 8:49pm
OK YOU FUCKING MORON. IT'S NOT THE VIDEO CARD DRIVER. It's the driver for the monitor. your machine needs to know that it's a widescreen otherwise you are going to get clipping and aliasing from the monitor trying to deal with a non-supported resolution. find the driver for the monitor or make your own with power strip.



toggletoggle post by Niccolai   at Jan 7,2007 8:58pm
Westinghouse sais that the monitor is plug and play and no drivers are needed. The manual that came with the monitor sais for driver support to go to the intel site, so I don't know what else you're telling me that I'm not getting Aaron.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jan 7,2007 9:15pm
it's not plug and play for your computer obviously. update the driver for the default monitor, have disk, and then look to find your monitor from the list.
the 2407wfp that I got needed a driver.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jan 7,2007 9:19pm
oh there's also this program that I don't think I've mentioned yet. it's called power strip.



toggletoggle post by menstrual_sweatpants_disco   at Jan 7,2007 9:34pm
the_reverend said:
IT'S NOT THE VIDEO CARD DRIVER


It could be. Some video cards just simply don't handle widescreen resolutions.



toggletoggle post by DeRtOxIa   at Jan 7,2007 10:12pm
try updating to the newest version of DirectX. I did that when i installed a new game and all the sudden i have all these crazy resolution choices.



toggletoggle post by menstrual_sweatpants_disco   at Jan 7,2007 10:14pm
You guys are silly.



toggletoggle post by Niccolai   at Jan 7,2007 10:15pm
Fuck it, I quit.

I'm just going to deal with shit being wide.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jan 7,2007 10:17pm
MSD: shush you. it's "possibly" but I basically have the same card in laptop verion on 2 laptops and they both drive wide screen with the right driver.



toggletoggle post by Niccolai   at Jan 7,2007 11:10pm edited Jan 7,2007 11:38pm
I'm just going to go back to my old HP crt monitor,

anyone want to buy the widescreen? it's brand new.

19" widescreen lcd.

175$



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jan 8,2007 8:32am
oh there's also this program that I don't think I've mentioned yet. it's called power strip.



toggletoggle post by powerkok   at Jan 8,2007 9:06am
Like I said, Im the fuckin best.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jan 8,2007 9:36am
I run 1900x1200.. so does carina. when I hooked her lappy to my screen, that was 3800x1200.
that's the best.



toggletoggle post by DreamingInExile   at Jan 8,2007 9:40am
Niccolai said:
I'm just going to go back to my old HP crt monitor,

anyone want to buy the widescreen? it's brand new.

19" widescreen lcd.

175$


ARE YOU SERIOUS?

I would be interested in this if you're seriously selling it.



toggletoggle post by Niccolai   at Jan 8,2007 11:42am
the_reverend said:
oh there's also this program that I don't think I've mentioned yet. it's called power strip.


Can't figure it out.

I think it's pretty clear I have no experience in this field.



toggletoggle post by powerkok   at Jan 8,2007 11:51am edited Jan 8,2007 11:52am
I say you wont sell it, cuz yuh scahhyahd!!
What about it, Bub?
If you dont sell this to DIE Ill buy it.
You have a car?



toggletoggle post by Niccolai   at Jan 8,2007 12:22pm
I do not have a car, it would be pickup only.

I'm going to post my issue on the g2g forumand if I don't resolve it by the end of this day, I'm selling the hell out of this headache of a monitor.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jan 8,2007 12:34pm
user error.



toggletoggle post by watchmaker666  at Jan 8,2007 1:01pm
3840x960 over 3 17" monitors



toggletoggle post by DeRtOxIa   at Jan 8,2007 1:22pm
Hey just curious while we're on the topic......any of youse guyses with fancy monitors actually using the DVI connection. And if you are, is there really any difference at all? I'm such a sucker that I bought a cheap 17 inch LCD with only a VGA connection and then a month later buy a new video card with only DVI connections so i had to go buy an adapter.



toggletoggle post by menstrual_sweatpants_disco   at Jan 8,2007 1:35pm
I use the DVI connection on my 24" monitor. I've wondered what the difference was myself, though, and tried both connections (VGA and DVI) going from my laptop to my monitor. I didn't really see a difference.

I know for a fact, though, that my monitor doesn't need to be adjusted (brightness, contrast, vertical & horizontal size and position) when connected to the DVI. The documentation said you can make those adjustments when connected through VGA, but they are not necessary over DVI because they are adjusted automatically. This may just be a feature of the monitor itself, though.



toggletoggle post by Niccolai   at Jan 8,2007 7:19pm
can anyone help me out with powerstrip? it seems like I've toyed with every thing on it, but can't get it to allow my computer to show a 1440x900 resolution.



toggletoggle post by Niccolai   at Jan 8,2007 7:40pm
Update, according to intel, they are no longer producing software for my graphic card/chipset and it was never compatable with 1440x900 resolutions.

and according to the admin at power strips forum, Power strip will NOT work with an intel 810 chipset.

So unless there's something else I am missing, I was right the first time I said "is it possible that this graphics card just doesn't support this monitors native resolution? ".


I believe this means I will haveto buy a new graphics card that will support a 1440x900 resolution. right?



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jan 8,2007 7:46pm
I haven't used power strip for a long time. do a search on google for settings with your monitor.

MSD: I have the same monitor, but no DVI output on any of my computers... only VGAy.

the difference:
DVI is digital
VGA is analog

so VGA was used on analog screens. now that we have "digital" screen IOW LCDs, 1 pixel for 1 image chunk instead of analog which could just have blobs that are interpolated into colors where they happen to fall.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jan 8,2007 7:48pm
well, if they are all going to be bitches like that, yes.

i'm looking right now and that chip set is from 1999. does anyone here still have anything from 1999?



toggletoggle post by Niccolai   at Jan 8,2007 7:49pm
the_reverend said:
I haven't used power strip for a long time. do a search on google for settings with your monitor.


the monitor I have is pretty new, so isn't the company. so I haven't found much.

I'm down for just buying a new graphics card if you think it will work. I've wanted a new one for a while anyway.



toggletoggle post by Niccolai   at Jan 8,2007 7:50pm
the_reverend said:
well, if they are all going to be bitches like that, yes.

i'm looking right now and that chip set is from 1999. does anyone here still have anything from 1999?


I'm actually very suprized that it's that new.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jan 8,2007 7:54pm
it was designed to work with the PIII so that would be 1999.

sorry, I have the upgraded mobile version of that chipset Intel 855GM.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jan 8,2007 7:55pm
I would just get a cheap $20 video card... it would be better than what you have. you probably only support PCI.



toggletoggle post by Niccolai   at Jan 8,2007 8:06pm
So I'm limited to pci interface cards only?

And what chipset manufacturer would you suggest? I'm thinking Nvidia, but I don't know anything about this stuff (obv)



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jan 8,2007 8:08pm
look at your board. does it have an AGP slot? no? then PCI is the onlything you can do.



toggletoggle post by Niccolai   at Jan 8,2007 8:14pm edited Jan 8,2007 8:18pm
yea, there are only pci slots.

I'm looking on newegg, and there are PCI, PCI expressx1, and PCI express x16 cards. Does that make any difference to me? should I just go with a plain PCI card?



toggletoggle post by Niccolai   at Jan 8,2007 8:23pm
This is the one I'm looking at:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814102533

good idea/bad idea?



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jan 8,2007 8:23pm
you might want to get one that supports your HD monitor.
and you need PCI. I don't even have and PCIe or PCIx slots.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jan 8,2007 8:24pm
how fast is your processor? you are probably wasting $30 there... just look for a $20 PCI video card that supports your monitor.



toggletoggle post by Niccolai   at Jan 8,2007 8:36pm
Base processor and speed: Celeron 1.1 GHz
RAM (standard) 128 MB
Maximum 512 MB
Speed PC100



toggletoggle post by Niccolai   at Jan 8,2007 8:54pm
this is the cheapest one they have:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814102447

how do I tell if it supports 1440x900?



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Jan 8,2007 9:30pm
how did you tell that intel didn't.



toggletoggle post by DeRtOxIa   at Jan 8,2007 9:59pm
Niccolai said:
this is the cheapest one they have:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814102447

how do I tell if it supports 1440x900?


Max Resolution 2048 x 1536



that card should work great




toggletoggle post by Niccolai   at Jan 8,2007 10:42pm
the max resolution on my current card is higher than 1440x900, but you still select a widescreen resolution.



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