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returntothepit >> discuss >> Burzum singer on the loose by the_reverend on Oct 26,2003 1:24pm
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toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Oct 26,2003 1:24pm
this is from that blabbermouth.net site.

Updated: BURZUM Leader Fails To Return After Short Leave From Prison - Oct. 26, 2003

The Norwegian media is reporting that BURZUM mastermind Varg "Greven" Vikernes (a.k.a. Count Grishnack) failed to return after a short leave from his prison in Vestfold, Norway, where the black metal musician is serving a 21-year sentence for the August 1993 murder of MAYHEM guitarist Oystein Aarseth (a.k.a. Euronymous), the burning of three churches, and the resulting death of a fireman. Varg, 30, was supposed to return to the prison by midnight Saturday (October 25) after being granted a couple of days off, but failed to come back in time. The police have no information on his whereabouts.

More information on Vikernes' "escape" from prison (in Norwegian) can be found at the following locations:

NRK
Dagbladet
Bergensavisen
Ringerikes Blad
Dagsavisen
Stavanger Avisen
Nationen
Tonsbergs Blad
VG
Avisa Nordhordland
Finnmarken
Aura Avis
Glåmdalen
Ostelndingen
Sandefjords Blad

Vikernes, commonly referred to as a Satanist, but more accurately described as a deeply anti-Christian and anti-Semite black metal musician who claims that he believes in Old Norse gods like Odin and Thor, gained notoriety in Norway for being responsible for one of the most brutal murders ever committed in the country (Aarseth was found dead outside his apartment in Oslo with 23 stab wounds — two to the head, five to the neck, and 16 to the back).

In a 1998 interview with Björn Hallberg, Vikernes elaborated on his claim that he killed Aarseth (widely viewed as the founder of the Norwegian black metal movement) in self-defense, saying "[Oystein] wanted to kill me for several reasons. I dumped his label, and by doing that left him with a label with only bands that sold extremely bad (ABRUPTUM, and some other trash). I made him look like a complete fool several times — i.e. from making fun of him to disclosing his many lies to others. I started to spread racist propaganda to our milieu. But most importantly I managed to become more interesting for the media than he was. For some reason it was very important for him to be 'the center' of everything. This was of course because I did something, while he was just talking about these things — so after a while nobody took him serious, as they saw that he was just full of talk, and no action. He blamed me for this, since I was the person — he believed — responsible for making him look like a wimp (which he was, of course).

"You must remember that [Aarseth] had been 'the center' of the [Norwegian black metal] movement a long time, he was 25 years old, while I was only 19 (and 20 when I killed him), and he took it very serious when people started listening to me instead of him. He was a Communist, and hated the fact that 'everybody' was fully into my nationalist and racist views — that is, after a while of course. In short he didn't like the development, and wanted to put and end to it by killing me. First he tried to find proof against me for several crimes he 'knew' I had committed, but he failed to do so.

"The reason I disrespected him was simply because he was completely incompetent and incapable of running his label efficiently. He was full of big words and never did anything as he promised to do. He was obsessed with this 'Satanist' thing, while I wanted to spread Odinism in the scene (and he hated me for that as well). He was disgusting, watching dirty movies all the time, and we even suspected him for being bisexual or homosexual! I did not want anything to do with him, and did nothing to my contempt for him to anybody! He was a pig, and I told that to 'everybody'!

"I was a bit pissed because I had wasted so much time, belief and energy on his label, and everything was a waste! I was young, alright, but still was a fool to believe in his label in the first place.

"To put it short there were a lot of reasons for me to hate him, and because of my respectable way of handling this he had a reason to hate me as well — I told the truth about him, and for sure the truth is very often uncomfortable for many!

"I meant — and still mean — that I killed him in self-defense, simply because it was he who attacked me, and not the other way around, when I showed up in his apartment that evening to tell him to 'fuck off' (to put it that way). He intended to torture me to death, filming it and selling it as a 'snuff' movie to others — and I knew this because a friend of his told me about it. He attacked me and he tried to kill me (with a knife). He failed miserably, alright, but I knew that if I did not end 'the show' there I would only give him a second chance, and of course I saw no point in doing that. Maybe he was more successful (for a change…) the second time? That is why I mean it was in self-defense. In beginning it was self-defense, even legally, but when he started to flee it was no longer legally, and I then call the killing a 'preventative action', 'preventative self-defense'."



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Oct 26,2003 1:25pm

you are so evil...



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Oct 26,2003 1:30pm

evil as fuck



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Oct 26,2003 12:41pm
do they even have doors on prisions there?



toggletoggle post by xPaulBLAHBLAHx   at Oct 26,2003 12:45pm
hahah this dudes logic is so bad. It was self defense when I stabbed him 23 times I swear!!! I swear to odin.



toggletoggle post by DeOdiumMortis  at Oct 26,2003 12:56pm
He looks like a girl anyway. Sick Joe N/C on him.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Oct 26,2003 1:02pm
10 years in jail?
I bet his ass is a trunk-butt goatse thing.



toggletoggle post by retzam at Oct 26,2003 1:11pm
the_reverend said:
10 years in jail?
I bet his ass is a trunk-butt goatse thing.


Haha, so true. But seriously, the bottom line is he is a lying sack of shit and Euronymous never meant to do anything like that to him. He showed up at Euronymous's home, had Blackthorn knock on the door, and he jumped in and stabbed him 23 times. I believe Manheim witnessed this actually. Perfect example of people taking black metal too seriously.



toggletoggle post by thornnvine  at Oct 26,2003 1:35pm
who fucking cares. another worthless close minded metal head. his music sucks, mediocre at best. I'm only typing because I already wasted my time reading this garbage.



toggletoggle post by retzam at Oct 26,2003 1:37pm
thornnvine said:
who fucking cares. another worthless close minded metal head. his music sucks, mediocre at best. I'm only typing because I already wasted my time reading this garbage.


thornnvine is a good name



toggletoggle post by CNV at Oct 26,2003 2:25pm
Heil Burzum! Hail Odin!



toggletoggle post by blue not logged in at Oct 26,2003 2:31pm
burzum sucks. but its funny that varg didnt come back.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Oct 26,2003 3:19pm
no, it's funny that they let him out.



toggletoggle post by count grishnak at Oct 26,2003 4:06pm



toggletoggle post by joostin at Oct 26,2003 4:12pm
the_reverend said:
no, it's funny that they let him out.


agreed



toggletoggle post by retzam at Oct 26,2003 4:16pm
What the fuck, Varg is so fucking fucked up. At first I thought he was just some guy who murdered Euronymous and then all this shit about Norse gods comes up and what the fuck? He wrote 5 books??? What the fuck man?



toggletoggle post by Ninkaszi187   at Oct 26,2003 5:10pm
hahahaha that is fucking awesome. Burzum was great. I hope he escapes for good. Thats what they get in Scandinavia for giving inmates vacations. KEEP RUNNING



toggletoggle post by retzam at Oct 26,2003 5:23pm
Ninkaszi187 said:
hahahaha that is fucking awesome. Burzum was great. I hope he escapes for good. Thats what they get in Scandinavia for giving inmates vacations. KEEP RUNNING


I've never even heard Burzum, but I am kind of a Mayhem fan so I hope they catch him and through him back in jail. I will always be pissed about him killing Euronymous.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Oct 26,2003 5:26pm
if you buy a old-burzum cd, 1/2 of it will be good.
at least that's what I always found



toggletoggle post by Crulety. at Oct 26,2003 5:26pm
Varg didnt kill euro because he took black metal too serious, hell he was the one that quit Old Funeral (a band with the founding members of Immortal). He killed euro because he was claiming that he wasnt selling any burzum CDs even though everyone knew he was. I meen yeah I probebly should have like taken him to small claims court. Even when Varg was burning churches they where giving away lighters with the first pressing of Burzum's "Ask". What Varg was was a very dedicated busness man who know the justice system there was a joke and wouldnt be in jail for more than 10 years and come out a legand. Only too bad for him they made an example of him and the scene passed him by.
Thats only my humble ass opinion though.


Burzum is amazing music none the less



toggletoggle post by retzam at Oct 26,2003 5:29pm
Crulety. said:
Varg didnt kill euro because he took black metal too serious, hell he was the one that quit Old Funeral (a band with the founding members of Immortal). He killed euro because he was claiming that he wasnt selling any burzum CDs even though everyone knew he was. I meen yeah I probebly should have like taken him to small claims court. Even when Varg was burning churches they where giving away lighters with the first pressing of Burzum's "Ask". What Varg was was a very dedicated busness man who know the justice system there was a joke and wouldnt be in jail for more than 10 years and come out a legand. Only too bad for him they made an example of him and the scene passed him by.
Thats only my humble ass opinion though.


Burzum is amazing music none the less


Dedicated business man?????



toggletoggle post by Cruelty. at Oct 26,2003 6:08pm
Well you know he couldnt have anyone saying he wasnt keepin it real



toggletoggle post by retzam at Oct 26,2003 7:30pm
Cruelty. said:
Well you know he couldnt have anyone saying he wasnt keepin it real


Yeah, dat brotha was keepin it real nigga.



toggletoggle post by Terence   at Oct 26,2003 7:37pm
Varg looks like a little boy. What a fag. Why do people still pay attention to him.



toggletoggle post by MyDeadDoll   at Oct 27,2003 1:51am
At least I know I can kill someone in Norway, go to prison for a short time, and take a lave of absence from my sentence... apparently, Varg was also given his own sort of room away from the other inmntes and he was able to play in a band and let his mom come and visit...



toggletoggle post by BornSoVile   at Oct 27,2003 1:52am
With all this talk about the murder I suggest we take no sides and select Nargaroth-The Day Burzum Killed Mayhem off the amazing album Black Metal ist Krieg as the musical pick. (http://www.herbstleyd.cjb.net/) that's a decent fanpage, only thing I can find on the net. Bang your head, fuck god.



toggletoggle post by thegreatspaldino   at Oct 27,2003 4:12am edited Oct 27,2003 4:13am
im sorry but Varg is a worthless asshole and he deserves to be slammed in the pooper by 30 turkish prison guards and 12 black guys in under an hour.



toggletoggle post by succubus  at Oct 27,2003 6:46am
thegreatspaldino said:
im sorry but Varg is a worthless asshole and he deserves to be slammed in the pooper by 30 turkish prison guards and 12 black guys in under an hour.



yes precisely



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Oct 27,2003 8:23am edited Oct 27,2003 8:24am
come on guys, he says it was self defense.
http://www.geocities.com/misanthrophicblackmetal/releases_live_bootleg01.htm
is that the black metal elvis?



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Oct 27,2003 8:37am



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Oct 27,2003 11:34am




toggletoggle post by retzam at Oct 27,2003 3:14pm
Are those pictures of him getting caught or something? I heard they found him yesterday.



toggletoggle post by BornSoVile   at Oct 27,2003 4:17pm
hehe, Varg drove a Volvo. Him and Snorre of Thorns, drove 8 hours in a VW Gulf to kill Euro.



toggletoggle post by retzam at Oct 27,2003 4:31pm
BornSoVile said:
hehe, Varg drove a Volvo. Him and Snorre of Thorns, drove 8 hours in a VW Gulf to kill Euro.


Bastards



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Oct 27,2003 5:02pm
when you are going to kill someone the first and foremost thing on your mind should be
GAS EFFICENCY!



toggletoggle post by severmywrists at Oct 27,2003 5:35pm
and who could forget this pic upon glimpsing through lords of chaos




toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Oct 27,2003 5:37pm
I just got out my copy of lords of chaos and was totally going to grab that same picture.



toggletoggle post by succubus  at Oct 27,2003 6:02pm
why are all the pics comnig up as Red X's???



toggletoggle post by DeOdiumMortis  at Oct 27,2003 6:04pm
Same for me, this and 2-3 other threads. Gayternet.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Oct 27,2003 6:07pm
works fine for me...



toggletoggle post by succubus  at Oct 27,2003 6:11pm
ok after refreshing they are all ok


WEIRD



toggletoggle post by retzam at Oct 27,2003 10:45pm
The pic that severemywrists posted is still a red x for me, what is it?



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Dec 24,2004 12:41pm
tytyrtyertetrwer



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Dec 24,2004 12:42pm
u9u9u9i



toggletoggle post by pisscup at Dec 24,2004 4:21pm
I would let him hide at my house.



toggletoggle post by enonymous at Feb 22,2006 8:52am
I don't think any of you can really KNOW what happend.. So you take "Mayhems side" just because you like their music more than Burzums? WTF logic is that? you fucking idiots.

I can't say which one is better band, but I do like Burzum more. It's much more variable than Mayhem, ofcourse I know that Mayhem "started" it all, but it doesen't make them "gods" of Norveigen Black Metal.

Anyways, I believe what Vikernes says, just cause his story sounds more realistic than any other media version or what ever shit those other storys were.



ps. Media really fucked this up, I suggest that you all obtain (how? we are in internet, I'm sure you figure out how ;D) document called "Satan rides the media" it gives some what real picture about this whole event.



toggletoggle post by BornSoVile   at Feb 22,2006 9:47am
Varg is up for parole in April. Candlelight has added him to their artists page...



toggletoggle post by Yeti at Feb 22,2006 10:40am
seriously. no one really knows why he killed him. i am going to guess it was because he wanted to. i dont think he had a reason, he just claimed to in order to plead his case. plus, no one in their right mind would be able to get sounds like that out of their throat. granted i dont agree with the murder, but man, you cant beat the music. you sit back, light one up and throw on Det Som En Gang Var, it doesnt get any better than that. i even really like the ambient stuff. Hlidskjalf is awesome, and Daudi Baldrs is also awesome, but in a more comical way. Varg is the brunt of alot of hate, but i dont agree, he is the man either way.



toggletoggle post by BobNOMAAMRooney nli at Feb 22,2006 12:15pm
One would hope that he didn't kill him over money issues, because that would be very Jewish of Varg.



toggletoggle post by BSV@school at Feb 22,2006 1:48pm
i posted Varg's reasoning on here not that long ago...



toggletoggle post by BornSoVile   at Feb 22,2006 3:33pm



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toggletoggle post by BlackoutRick at Mar 25,2006 12:57pm
retzam said:
Cruelty. said:
Well you know he couldnt have anyone saying he wasnt keepin it real


Yeah, dat brotha was keepin it real nigga.



When keeping it real goes terribly wrong!




toggletoggle post by Joe/NotCommon   at Mar 25,2006 1:05pm
I am happy to report I've never heard a single song from Burzum and I absolutely hated Mayhem the one time I heard them.



toggletoggle post by pam nli at Mar 25,2006 1:06pm
I think Varg is a big queer.



toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Mar 25,2006 1:32pm
i love black metal but i never liked varg.



toggletoggle post by slowlypeelingtheflesh   at Mar 25,2006 1:43pm
Joe/NotCommon said:
I am happy to report I've never heard a single song from Burzum and I absolutely hated Mayhem the one time I heard them.





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