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returntothepit >> discuss >> Who else thinks Mastodon is OVER RATED? by tr00ness on Sep 24,2006 12:53pm
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Who else thinks Mastodon is OVER RATED? - usless poll
1yup, over rated
2hey, when i press this option, i feel special
no vote


toggletoggle post by tr00ness at Sep 24,2006 12:53pm
biased poll, mmm hmmm



toggletoggle post by pam   at Sep 24,2006 12:54pm
right here! all hail the biased poll.



toggletoggle post by espresso at Sep 24,2006 12:57pm
Yup... definately over rated



toggletoggle post by DrinkHardThrashHard  at Sep 24,2006 12:59pm edited Sep 24,2006 1:00pm
Not overrated for me. Honest straightforward musicians, great drumming, unique sound, creative lyrics and concepts, no gimmicks.

I'm afraid I had to feel special.

How about a thread like this for Dragonforce or Opeth? Then you'll get my vote.



toggletoggle post by SlavonicIdentity at Sep 24,2006 1:01pm
I think they are.



toggletoggle post by pam   at Sep 24,2006 1:11pm
DrinkHardThrashHard said:

How about a thread like this for Dragonforce or Opeth? Then you'll get my vote.


Mine as well.



toggletoggle post by HailTheLeaf  at Sep 24,2006 1:53pm
I'd say they're underrated if anything...



toggletoggle post by DrinkHardThrashHard  at Sep 24,2006 2:05pm edited Sep 24,2006 2:10pm
I don't know about underrated, they're one of the most hyped metal bands in the world, and the overwhelming majority of metal and heavy music fans enjoy them. They're making some good money. And for once, I can feel like this successful band actually deserves it.




toggletoggle post by NippleViolater   at Sep 24,2006 2:13pm
pam said:
DrinkHardThrashHard said:

How about a thread like this for Dragonforce or Opeth? Then you'll get my vote.


Mine as well.







toggletoggle post by HailTheLeaf  at Sep 24,2006 2:18pm
I didn't know they were hyped, I still run into metal fans who've never heard of them.



toggletoggle post by Kevord  at Sep 24,2006 2:19pm
Cave dwellers



toggletoggle post by brian_dc  at Sep 24,2006 2:26pm
I voted to feel special.



toggletoggle post by vomitthesoul  at Sep 24,2006 2:37pm
All Metalcore bands are overated.The most overated one is from this area-Unearth



toggletoggle post by Kevord  at Sep 24,2006 2:38pm
Mastodon aren't metalcore dumbass.



toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Sep 24,2006 2:38pm
mastodon isn't a metalcore band



toggletoggle post by MarkFuckingRichards  at Sep 24,2006 2:39pm
i don't think they're overrated, i just think it all depends on musical tastes. anyone who can't get into the music will most likely say they think they're overrated.

i finally got the new album and after listening to it a few times and watching the dvd, i have a lot more appreciation for them. i've been a fan since lifesblood came out, but now i like them even more after seeing how much they work but at the same time how easy it comes to them because they just let it flow.



toggletoggle post by MarkFuckingRichards  at Sep 24,2006 2:41pm
how the fuck can you think mastodon are a metalcore band? have you even heard them?



toggletoggle post by pam   at Sep 24,2006 2:42pm
I hate Mastodon, but they are NOT metalcore.



toggletoggle post by HailTheLeaf  at Sep 24,2006 2:49pm
They're about as metalcore as Iron Maiden...I got the cd with the dvd and the dvd doesn't fucking work...



toggletoggle post by vomitthesoul  at Sep 24,2006 3:28pm
Kevord said:
Mastodon aren't metalcore dumbass.



What are they then?




toggletoggle post by litacore   at Sep 24,2006 3:28pm
I don't really listen to them

they're just a metal band, if business is working out for them, I'd rather it was them than Hatebreed or Victory Records drek



toggletoggle post by dwellingsickness at Sep 24,2006 3:55pm
So this is thread # what, now?, Concerning this band that a majority seem to dislike ,but seem to be making new threads,just wording them differently.



toggletoggle post by Cecchini   at Sep 24,2006 4:18pm
i thought it was pretty common knowledge that mastodon sucked. the only time i've heard praise for this band has been like the past 2 weeks.



toggletoggle post by Kevord  at Sep 24,2006 4:21pm
vomitthesoul said:
Kevord said:
Mastodon aren't metalcore dumbass.



What are they then?



There just a straight up Metal band there's nothing core about them. But there still mediocre.



toggletoggle post by pam   at Sep 24,2006 4:31pm
Evidently, the only topics permitted on RTTP are mastodon, right wing/left wing fighting and jew bashing.



toggletoggle post by Kevord  at Sep 24,2006 4:35pm
Don't forget sick moshing and how much you suck.



toggletoggle post by pam   at Sep 24,2006 4:36pm
haha. That too.



toggletoggle post by Allah That at Sep 24,2006 6:41pm
Dar reads Nietzsche.



toggletoggle post by anonymoUSA at Sep 24,2006 6:44pm
back on topic: i find them boring and easy to forget. zzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZz



toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Sep 24,2006 6:58pm
pam said:
Evidently, the only topics permitted on RTTP are mastodon, right wing/left wing fighting and jew bashing.


it's getting old.



toggletoggle post by Allah That at Sep 24,2006 7:00pm
They already thot of that. mastodon= millions of years old.



toggletoggle post by Ryan_M at Sep 24,2006 7:38pm
vomitthesoul said:
Kevord said:
Mastodon aren't metalcore dumbass.



What are they then?



Jesus Christ, you're pissing all over a band you don't know jack shit about. Go jerk off on your Six Feet Under CDs. Wiener.



toggletoggle post by Ryan_M at Sep 24,2006 7:39pm
Every band in the world is over rated. Listen to music you like.



toggletoggle post by xanonymousx at Sep 24,2006 7:54pm
mastodon stole a haste the day riff from their ep way back.



toggletoggle post by metalguy at Sep 24,2006 8:17pm
I can't find anything redeeming about listening to that band.



toggletoggle post by DrinkHardThrashHard  at Sep 24,2006 9:59pm edited Sep 24,2006 10:06pm
vomitthesoul said:
Kevord said:
Mastodon aren't metalcore dumbass.



What are they then?



Hard to describe, but a fusion of classic metal, death metal, some punk and hardcore, prog rock, blues and stoner rock. Vocals are very similar to other bands from their home area like F.U.C.T., early Today is the Day (2 of the Mastodon guys were in TITD and Lethargy at one point) with a touch of early splattercore like old C.O.C., etc.

Their conceptual style for lyrics and artwork theme is a marriage of prehistoric imagery, psychedelia, mythology, and various forces of nature. Their lyrics are heavily influenced by Neurosis, although their music is in a way very busy, and thus the antithesis of Neurosis.



toggletoggle post by infoterror  at Sep 24,2006 11:17pm
Completely. Emo garbage praised by Relapse. 'Nuff said.

Mastodon is emocore. Metalcore. Whatever.



toggletoggle post by infoterror  at Sep 24,2006 11:17pm
DrinkHardThrashHard said:
Hard to describe, but a fusion of classic metal, death metal, some punk and hardcore, prog rock, blues and stoner rock.


You mean, a garbage bag full of random shit... that's metalcore d00d. Solly, no glot, c'lom Fliday.



toggletoggle post by Neverpurified  at Sep 24,2006 11:33pm
infoterror said:
Completely. Emo garbage praised by Relapse. 'Nuff said.

Mastodon is emocore. Metalcore. Whatever.


HAHA, emocore..that's a good one.

I fucking love this band, very talented guys, good songwriters, and amazing live...I see nothing wrong/overrated about them



toggletoggle post by DrinkHardThrashHard  at Sep 25,2006 1:16am edited Sep 25,2006 1:20am
infoterror said:
Completely. Emo garbage praised by Relapse. 'Nuff said.

Mastodon is emocore. Metalcore. Whatever.


Wrong.



toggletoggle post by DrinkHardThrashHard  at Sep 25,2006 1:19am
infoterror said:
DrinkHardThrashHard said:
Hard to describe, but a fusion of classic metal, death metal, some punk and hardcore, prog rock, blues and stoner rock.


You mean, a garbage bag full of random shit... that's metalcore d00d. Solly, no glot, c'lom Fliday.


There was nothing random about it, it just goes to show how difficult they are to describe.

MASTODON SUCKS bECAUZE THEY ARE POPULAR!!! POPULAR = METALCORE. I FEEL THRET-END. ZOMG ANY POPULAR METAL SUX!!!

There, a better and more accurate critique.



toggletoggle post by infommercial at Sep 25,2006 1:31am
what he said.



toggletoggle post by sxealex   at Sep 25,2006 9:06am
yea so far im liking the new album minus some of the odd vocals. they have huge sound.



toggletoggle post by NippleViolater   at Sep 25,2006 10:12am
They're bad ass, get yo fuckin minds right.



toggletoggle post by Yeti at Sep 25,2006 10:36am
DrinkHardThrashHard said:
How about a thread like this for Dragonforce or Opeth? Then you'll get my vote.


i still dont see how Opeth is overrated. they are anything but. they have been pumping out fantastic music for over a decade now, and they finally got some recognition, and were immediately lumped into the "overrated" category. i just dont see it.



toggletoggle post by brian_dc  at Sep 25,2006 10:52am
sxealex said:
yea so far im liking the new album minus some of the odd vocals. they have huge sound.


yeah, the track with cyber-vocals kinda bores me. Otherwise, I can dig it.



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Sep 25,2006 12:25pm
Yeti said:
DrinkHardThrashHard said:
How about a thread like this for Dragonforce or Opeth? Then you'll get my vote.


i still dont see how Opeth is overrated. they are anything but. they have been pumping out fantastic music for over a decade now, and they finally got some recognition, and were immediately lumped into the "overrated" category. i just dont see it.


Opeth had recognition for years, it's just that newbs and bandwagon metal fans (who didn't give a shit about metal in the 90s) didn't listen to them because they weren't popular yet. So they hadn't heard them. And yes, they are overrated.



toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Sep 25,2006 12:30pm
anonymous said:
Yeti said:
DrinkHardThrashHard said:
How about a thread like this for Dragonforce or Opeth? Then you'll get my vote.


i still dont see how Opeth is overrated. they are anything but. they have been pumping out fantastic music for over a decade now, and they finally got some recognition, and were immediately lumped into the "overrated" category. i just dont see it.


Opeth had recognition for years, it's just that newbs and bandwagon metal fans (who didn't give a shit about metal in the 90s) didn't listen to them because they weren't popular yet. So they hadn't heard them. And yes, they are overrated.


i agree



toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Sep 25,2006 12:31pm
other overrated bands: dragonforce, and everyone on rttp's favorite band, necrophagist.



toggletoggle post by Yeti at Sep 25,2006 12:40pm
anonymous said:
Yeti said:
DrinkHardThrashHard said:
How about a thread like this for Dragonforce or Opeth? Then you'll get my vote.


i still dont see how Opeth is overrated. they are anything but. they have been pumping out fantastic music for over a decade now, and they finally got some recognition, and were immediately lumped into the "overrated" category. i just dont see it.


Opeth had recognition for years, it's just that newbs and bandwagon metal fans (who didn't give a shit about metal in the 90s) didn't listen to them because they weren't popular yet. So they hadn't heard them. And yes, they are overrated.


naw, i still dont agree.



toggletoggle post by brian_dc  at Sep 25,2006 1:10pm
dreadkill said:
other overrated bands: dragonforce, and everyone on rttp's favorite band, necrophagist.


whoa, he went after necrophagist! Get him!

Haha, yeah, they probably get jocked more than they deserve. But for good technical death metal that still has some songwriting merit, there just aren't a whole lot of competitors.



toggletoggle post by 8008135 at Sep 25,2006 4:41pm
necrophagist > mastodon



toggletoggle post by Anti-Racism  at Sep 25,2006 5:42pm
Mastodon is like Metallica, if they spent too much time at some wanky college. Opeth is like a cross-dresser at a UFC.



toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Sep 26,2006 3:24pm
Anti-Racism said:
Mastodon is like Metallica, if they spent too much time at some wanky college. Opeth is like a cross-dresser at a UFC.


that post makes absolutely no sense.



toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Sep 26,2006 3:25pm
brian_dc said:
dreadkill said:
other overrated bands: dragonforce, and everyone on rttp's favorite band, necrophagist.


whoa, he went after necrophagist! Get him!

Haha, yeah, they probably get jocked more than they deserve. But for good technical death metal that still has some songwriting merit, there just aren't a whole lot of competitors.


i don't really have a problem with necrophagist, but their music does little for me and it seems like everyone gets an unwarranted boner over them like they invented metal.



toggletoggle post by infoterror  at Sep 26,2006 4:57pm
Necrophagist is trivial shit. Martyr is better in that same pointless style.

Mastodon is typical nu-metal garbage to these ears. No style, no substance, nothing but hipster irony.

Fuck that.



toggletoggle post by Anthony nli at Sep 26,2006 5:06pm
infoterror said:
Necrophagist is trivial shit. Martyr is better in that same pointless style.

Mastodon is typical nu-metal garbage to these ears. No style, no substance, nothing but hipster irony.

Fuck that.


What is pointless about Martyr's style?



toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Sep 26,2006 5:09pm
infoterror's life is pointless.



toggletoggle post by Anthony nli at Sep 26,2006 5:09pm
To my ears, Martyr create much more meaningful and unique music than Necrophagist. I really wouldn't lump them together like that.

It's a shame Martyr aren't more well known and well-loved. They are one of the best active metal bands in the world. But even if they were more popular, people who've heard a snippet of maybe two songs would be coming out of the woodwork to say it was just "technical wankery." Tools.



toggletoggle post by Allah That at Sep 26,2006 5:32pm
dreadkill said:
infoterror's life is pointless.


infotexas.



toggletoggle post by Marco  at Nov 15,2006 1:45pm
drumming is amazing
end of story



toggletoggle post by DrinkHardThrashHard  at Nov 15,2006 4:45pm edited Nov 15,2006 4:52pm
Anthony nli said:
To my ears, Martyr create much more meaningful and unique music than Necrophagist. I really wouldn't lump them together like that.

It's a shame Martyr aren't more well known and well-loved. They are one of the best active metal bands in the world. But even if they were more popular, people who've heard a snippet of maybe two songs would be coming out of the woodwork to say it was just "technical wankery." Tools.


Martyr is definitely better than Necrophagist (especially that new album). That highly technical style is always going to have a limited following though, just as it always has, which is why people grew up with Ozzy and Manowar and left Watchtower and Cynic on the record store shelf, and Avenged Sevenfold blew up to the teenie boppers and Discordance Axis didn't.

Who cares though, as long as we get to listen to Martyr



toggletoggle post by HailTheLeaf  at Nov 15,2006 9:08pm
Eh, some people are oblivious to how incredible Mastodon is, so what? yay! more small venue shows and rare vinyl for me. Opeth are amazing also...



toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Nov 15,2006 9:21pm
why is this thread back?



toggletoggle post by 1a2b3 at Nov 15,2006 10:51pm
cuz mastodon lovers never learn



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Jul 14,2007 4:57am
yeah theyre awesome! perfect for when i want something to put me to sleep



toggletoggle post by saint vitus at Oct 31,2009 9:28pm
MASTODON FUCKIN SUCKS, ONLY PEOPLE WHO LIKE THEM ARE TRENDY LITTLE 4 CHAN FAGS WHO WHO SLANG LIKE "EPIC FAIL"



toggletoggle post by sxealex   at Nov 1,2009 1:26am
EPIC TROLL FAIL ZOMG



toggletoggle post by MetalHead at Apr 17,2010 10:53am
for people like me who love all kinds of metal especially Slayer, Cannibal Corpse and Fear Factory, Mastodon is amazing and is the best band after these 3, i think they are actually underrated since none of my friends know them, I have more than 70 albums from more than 50 bands on my pc and i have some cds, but most of the albums i couldnt listen to them all from beggining to end none stop if they are more than 40 mins., but yesterday i listened to Crack the Skye from beggining to end and i still wanted more and the album is over 50 mins. i think Mastodon reached total perfection with their last album



toggletoggle post by Lich_King at Apr 17,2010 10:56am
Horribly overrated. Their whole thing is building up into something and instead of landing in a bangy groove, they start building up into something else.



toggletoggle post by reimroc at Apr 17,2010 10:58am
saint%20vitus said[orig][quote]
MASTODON FUCKIN SUCKS, ONLY PEOPLE WHO LIKE THEM ARE TRENDY LITTLE 4 CHAN FAGS WHO WHO SLANG LIKE "EPIC FAIL"


mad



toggletoggle post by MillenialKingdom  at Apr 17,2010 11:05am
I think what makes them overrated are the bands who have been emulating them over the recent years. I like Mastodon but I don't listen to much of them after Remission or Leviathan.



toggletoggle post by BlackoutRick at Apr 17,2010 11:06am
Lich_King said[orig][quote]
Horribly overrated. Their whole thing is building up into something and instead of landing in a bangy groove, they start building up into something else.


Exactly. Why is that bad?



toggletoggle post by TheRidersofDoom  at Apr 17,2010 11:34am
Eh, I love moby dick but one spin of the Leviathan album was enough from this band for me. Not bad, just not interesting to me.



toggletoggle post by Lich_King at Apr 17,2010 11:43am
I don't know how to answer that. If you can find a way to headbang to Mastodon, rock on. Me, I think it's a tepid prog mess for Terrorizer readers.



toggletoggle post by reimroc at Apr 17,2010 8:14pm
TheRidersofDoom said[orig][quote]
Eh, I love moby dick but one spin of the Leviathan album was enough from this band for me. Not bad, just not interesting to me.


Leviathan and Blood Mountain and really, really good. They're also more talented and interesting than a lot of the crap out there. I say you should give it another listen because I think your missing something.



toggletoggle post by patmeebles at Apr 17,2010 8:40pm
It's tough enough to be good at what you do, never mind having a sound that is unmistakable from other bands. So no, they're not overrated.



toggletoggle post by Lamp  at Apr 17,2010 8:42pm
I still like Remission and Leviathan and listen to them occasionally, but I can't tell if it's because I liked them in high school or because I really genuinely still like them. Considering I can't stand some shit I used to like, probably more the latter.



toggletoggle post by mutis  at Apr 17,2010 11:48pm
Never understood what all the fuss was about.



toggletoggle post by BlackoutRick at Apr 18,2010 10:06am
patmeebles said[orig][quote]
It's tough enough to be good at what you do, never mind having a sound that is unmistakable from other bands. So no, they're not overrated.


Truth. End thread.



toggletoggle post by tylor  at Apr 18,2010 10:12am
leviathan got old on me and i didn't really like anything that came out after that, but i'll always love remission and lifesblood



toggletoggle post by Lich_King at Apr 18,2010 10:13am
Well, originality only goes so far. Ed Gein, Liberace and Tim Burton are all original. Doesn't mean they're any good.



toggletoggle post by BlackoutRick at Apr 18,2010 10:14am
HAHAHA!! Yeah, good point.



toggletoggle post by MillenialKingdom  at Apr 18,2010 12:54pm
This is one of those bands where the elitists are like, "I oNlY LiKe teH OldE StuFF".



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Apr 18,2010 5:35pm
Bores me to tears. No hate, just doesn't provoke any reaction in me. Which is probably not what they were going for.



toggletoggle post by BobNOMAAMRooney at Apr 18,2010 5:39pm
DestroyYouAlot said[orig][quote]
Bores me to tears. No hate, just doesn't provoke any reaction in me. Which is probably not what they were going for.



toggletoggle post by Eat Dicks (x86) at Apr 18,2010 6:04pm
They're pretty good, for an indie band.



toggletoggle post by moenli at Apr 18,2010 6:43pm
Great drummer. Meh songs.



toggletoggle post by IllinoisEnemaBradness at Apr 18,2010 10:06pm
moenli said[orig][quote]
Great drummer. Meh songs.


boring bass guitar with awful tone, drummer overplays, and now he sings? They listen to their label rep, made it more "accessible"
LAME



toggletoggle post by moonroom72  at Nov 9,2010 9:45pm
I think they're pretty important in the metal scene, they are one of the most pure bands I've ever heard, they're completely true to themselves and they never letup on integrity or creativity, or being hard working motherfuckers. They got the true spirit of Metal, which is lacking so hard in popular realms.



toggletoggle post by DestroyYouAlot  at Nov 9,2010 10:46pm edited Nov 9,2010 11:12pm
moonroom72 said[orig][quote]
I think they're pretty important in the metal scene, they are one of the most pure bands I've ever heard, they're completely true to themselves and they never letup on integrity or creativity, or being hard working motherfuckers. They got the true spirit of Metal, which is lacking so hard in popular realms.





toggletoggle post by nekronaut  at Nov 9,2010 11:08pm
Lich_King said[orig][quote]
Horribly overrated. Their whole thing is building up into something and instead of landing in a bangy groove, they start building up into something else.


At least they don't go around calling themselves the ''greatest (insert genre) band of all time'' like some other bands do

*cough*Lich King*cough*



toggletoggle post by late_rising at Nov 10,2010 1:34am
are you implying Lich King are not THE GREATEST PIZZA THRASH BAND OF ALL TIME??



toggletoggle post by hoser at Nov 10,2010 7:49am
I love 'em. Great band. All BS aside.



toggletoggle post by zurdo   at Nov 10,2010 9:23am
I think they're great at what they do, I like Kruger and Ved Buens Ende or Virus better.



toggletoggle post by slymoe nli at Nov 10,2010 9:26am
baroness baroness baroness



toggletoggle post by smoke one at Nov 10,2010 10:48am
^yep, for that style i'll take baroness over mastodon any day.

instrumentally mastodon are great, the vocals ruin it for me though. bring back the harsh vocals and i'd like them more.



toggletoggle post by The_Rooster  at Nov 10,2010 11:50am
moenli said[orig][quote]
Great drummer. Meh songs.


Most of the "meh" with that band, for me, is because of the drummer.

Drum solos are cool and all, but not when you play them through entire albums. It was really refreshing to hear him hold back a lot on the newest record. Opened things up a lot, and gave some space to the music. Prior to that, I've found his style to be incredibly claustrophobic and over-stated.

I don't think they're overrated. They are VERY good at what they do, and obviously work really hard, but I wouldn't say I'm a huge fan.

I do like a lot of their songs (mostly from "Remission"), but not enough that I listen to them with any regularity. The exception being this:



bennyhillifier



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Nov 10,2010 12:32pm
Mastodon live = "Dude, they've been playing this intro for like an hour and a half now... wtf the show's over?!"



toggletoggle post by RustyPS should be working at Nov 10,2010 12:50pm
only splitting one word into two for no reason is real



toggletoggle post by LBprovidence at Nov 10,2010 1:50pm edited Nov 10,2010 1:50pm
only time i saw mastodon mastodon swas in 2003, in a cold dark warehouse with about 30 people watching. but i remember them being really good. they were solid as hell, and had a great sound. i dont think they were pulling any rockstar shit either. havent followed them much since.



toggletoggle post by Lester__Burnham at Nov 10,2010 4:25pm
they good



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