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returntothepit >> discuss >> Islam is so peaceful.......we are the tyrants for attacking them!!! I've seen the light!!!! by hoser on Aug 24,2006 11:13am
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toggletoggle post by hoser at Aug 24,2006 11:13am edited Aug 24,2006 11:25am
Hail The Leaf was right all along.....I'm so stupid. Why would we attack such peace loving people!!???

We are such tyrants!!! I have picture proof of our tyranny!!!





The following pictures were taken at a peaceful Muslim protest in England called the "Religion of Peace Demonstration."

































I wonder how Allah feels about all of this?? They sure are peaceful people!!! We should leave them alone!!!



toggletoggle post by hoser at Aug 24,2006 11:26am
HOW PEACEFUL!!!



toggletoggle post by powerkok   at Aug 24,2006 11:26am
Simply, WOW.
Those fuckers shouldve been shot right there, on the spot.
Terrorists waiting to happen.



toggletoggle post by Man_of_the_Century at Aug 24,2006 11:28am
Democracy is definately the wrong thing for them... What were we thinking.



toggletoggle post by hoser at Aug 24,2006 11:30am
I think I see Hail the Leaf somewhere in the back there......hmmmm......



toggletoggle post by Man_of_the_Century at Aug 24,2006 11:31am
Is she the one with the face covering?



toggletoggle post by powerkok   at Aug 24,2006 11:35am
Hopefully.
Maybe she needs to be treated like an Afghani wife, to understand that those people are fanatics, with mean spirits.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Aug 24,2006 11:38am
yeah.. it's so wonderfully judging the many for the sins of the few.
how's maine going for you whitey? I heard you and your buddies started some sort of organization or something.




toggletoggle post by powerkok   at Aug 24,2006 11:40am
Well you dont see Christians rallying with signs that threaten death to an entire continental region, do ya, smarty?



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Aug 24,2006 11:44am
here's some interesting stats, mr. christian.

Major Religions of the World (mid-2005 est.)4

Christian 2,133,806,000
Roman Catholics 1,118,991,000
Independents* 425,170,000
Protestants 375,815,000
Orthodox 219,501,000
Anglicans 79,718,000
Muslims 1,308,941,000
Hindus 860,133,000
Chinese Universists 404,921,000
Buddhists 378,808,000
Sikhs 25,377,700
Jews 15,073,000


and to powerkok, yeah.. christians would never ralley and call for the death of thousands, right? no one would expect the spanish inquisition!



toggletoggle post by Man_of_the_Century at Aug 24,2006 11:45am
powerkok said:
Well you dont see Christians rallying with signs that threaten death to an entire continental region, do ya, smarty?


Yes...




toggletoggle post by powerkok   at Aug 24,2006 11:46am
Thats pre america, bud, and Im not christian, by any means.



toggletoggle post by powerkok   at Aug 24,2006 11:47am
that was to rev....as far as kkk, they are a bunch of dumb rednecks.



toggletoggle post by Messerschmitt at Aug 24,2006 11:49am
this one cracks me up the most...



toggletoggle post by Man_of_the_Century at Aug 24,2006 11:50am
powerkok said:
that was to rev....as far as kkk, they are a bunch of dumb rednecks.


Just like the Islam extremists are a bunch of camel jockeys. Not all of them are bad, but there are a lot of them that are.

P.S.

Rev, in that list you have Roman Catholics and Christians listed seperate, but Catholics are christians...



toggletoggle post by powerkok   at Aug 24,2006 11:52am
MOTC....I hear ya, and I do not disagree.....

But there is one thing that we dont like,




And it starts with

HE


MAN.



toggletoggle post by Man_of_the_Century at Aug 24,2006 11:53am
u don't like He-Man?




toggletoggle post by niccolai   at Aug 24,2006 11:54am
Rednecks...

Snow-hicks...

same thing.





toggletoggle post by niccolai   at Aug 24,2006 11:55am
Messerschmitt said:
this one cracks me up the most...


That's my favorate as well.

the last holocaust was some how 'less real'



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Aug 24,2006 11:56am
MOTC: close, but no cigar, my intentation didn't go through. if you added those up it would be a # higher than the world population.

Christian 2,133,806,000
>Roman Catholics 1,118,991,000
>Independents* 425,170,000
>Protestants 375,815,000
>Orthodox 219,501,000
>Anglicans 79,718,000

since all those people are xtians.

also, there might be some posts here who are a bunch of dumb rednecks. or am I stating the obvious now?



toggletoggle post by RichHorror  at Aug 24,2006 11:56am
According to some neo-nazi skin on Geraldo it never happened.



toggletoggle post by powerkok   at Aug 24,2006 11:57am
Of course it wasnt real...ask Mel Gibson's dad.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Aug 24,2006 11:57am
total photoshop gold...

co'mon.




toggletoggle post by Man_of_the_Century at Aug 24,2006 11:59am
the_reverend said:
MOTC: close, but no cigar, my intentation didn't go through. if you added those up it would be a # higher than the world population.

Christian 2,133,806,000
>Roman Catholics 1,118,991,000
>Independents* 425,170,000
>Protestants 375,815,000
>Orthodox 219,501,000
>Anglicans 79,718,000

since all those people are xtians.


HA... I'm retarded...



toggletoggle post by powerkok   at Aug 24,2006 11:59am
Is that a GI Joe nazi wardog?



toggletoggle post by niccolai   at Aug 24,2006 12:01pm
Correction:

It's a CROSSEYED GI Joe nazi wardog.



toggletoggle post by powerkok   at Aug 24,2006 12:02pm
noted.



toggletoggle post by niccolai   at Aug 24,2006 12:05pm edited Aug 24,2006 12:05pm
It could also be mentioned that he is being plowed in the ass against his will by that GI Joe, but that's neither here nor there for the conversation.



toggletoggle post by powerkok   at Aug 24,2006 12:05pm
HAHAHAHAHa



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Aug 24,2006 12:11pm
that is no gijoe, that is snake eyes.
don't pigeon hole him cause you can't understand his handicap.



toggletoggle post by RichHorror  at Aug 24,2006 12:12pm
That was the most funny and nerdy thing Aaron has ever said. And being Aaron, that's quite a feat.



toggletoggle post by Messerschmitt at Aug 24,2006 12:14pm
the_reverend said:
MOTC: close, but no cigar, my intentation didn't go through. if you added those up it would be a # higher than the world population.

Christian 2,133,806,000
>Roman Catholics 1,118,991,000
>Independents* 425,170,000
>Protestants 375,815,000
>Orthodox 219,501,000
>Anglicans 79,718,000

since all those people are xtians.

also, there might be some posts here who are a bunch of dumb rednecks. or am I stating the obvious now?


yeah, you also got yer stupid long haired hippy vegans? yer, wigger jumpdafuckuppers? yer, supercool tech talk fuckers? yer, new wave nu metal dooooosh bags that are like, i like metal but i'm not angry, peace, love, let's end the violence, but i like metal?



toggletoggle post by HailTheLeaf  at Aug 24,2006 12:20pm edited Aug 24,2006 12:21pm
Hoser still doesn't know why we were bombed...that's sad. Gosh, who knew there would be extremists on both sides of organized religion...



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Aug 24,2006 12:24pm
yeah, but OUR extremists are doing good things like forcing evolution out of the classroom, blowing up abortion clinics, burning blacks, and being president.



toggletoggle post by hoser at Aug 24,2006 12:29pm
I agree wholeheartedly that there is violence in every culture, but that's not my point.

These people are downright fucking dangerous. It could be YOUR family on the next plane that they bomb, or building that they destroy....all in the name of Allah.

Since when has Allah become a God of hatred and destruction....I am a Christian by birth, but I do not practice it. I see also where Christianity has destroyed and killed in the name of their God.

Organized religion as a whole is pretty fucked up, and nothing more than standardized cults with lots of money and political influence.

I'm gonna become a bona fide Pagan and be done with it all.

I still want these idiots killed. Like I said....any type of extremism can be dangerous.....but these people are fucking scary. They'll strap bombs to their own children if they think that it will kill anyone. Anyone not Muslum is their enemy. Scary.



toggletoggle post by Murph  at Aug 24,2006 12:33pm
Don't forget holding mass hypnosis in athletic stadiums. Billy Graham can drop my balls right in his mouth, there's your communion, bitch.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Aug 24,2006 12:36pm
I guess abortion clinic bombings aren't scary...
http://www.cnn.com/US/9801/29/bombing.update/index.html
or being at a federal building
http://www.cnn.com/US/OKC/bombing.html
or going to pubs
http://www.manchester2002-uk.com/buildings/bombing.html

yeah, fuck islam, they are obviously all scary and wrong.



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Aug 24,2006 12:40pm
hoser, some where along your bloodlines, I hope you have some Islam



toggletoggle post by niccolai   at Aug 24,2006 12:49pm
the_reverend said:
I guess abortion clinic bombings aren't scary...
http://www.cnn.com/US/9801/29/bombing.update/index.html
or being at a federal building
http://www.cnn.com/US/OKC/bombing.html
or going to pubs
http://www.manchester2002-uk.com/buildings/bombing.html

yeah, fuck islam, they are obviously all scary and wrong.



Cristian fundamentalists bomb abortion clinics because they disagree with abortion, so they are killing the people who take part in it.

That's not quite comparable to someone who hijacks an airplane full of parents, children, ect. and kills all of them because they disagree with the people who govern the country that they just so happen to live in.



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Aug 24,2006 12:51pm
Yes they should all be taken care of along with that nazi state of Israel.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Aug 24,2006 12:57pm
niccolai, sorry, this is american and america is for xtians. no bombings no extremists.
unless there are taxation! and then we have ourselves a little olde tea party.

look at that cute little sigheil indian.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Aug 24,2006 12:59pm
and tell me how much different hijacking a airplane full of parents, children, and the cast of the TV show millenium is from bombing a country with cluster bombs, killing more civis that militants?



toggletoggle post by hoser at Aug 24,2006 12:59pm
anonymous said:
hoser, some where along your bloodlines, I hope you have some Islam


Father: Born in Ireland

Mother: her mother born in Scotland, her father born in Germany

I can just about guarantee that there isn't 1 drop of Muslim blood in my body.




toggletoggle post by niccolai   at Aug 24,2006 12:59pm
Islam should bomb both britain and the cherokee nation.



toggletoggle post by hoser at Aug 24,2006 1:02pm
Hey I didn't start this to talk about religion....

All organized religions suck......Feel free to worship whatever, I could give a damn...that's your right. BUT not in their countries...they string you up and kill you for being anything BUT Muslim there....and we're the bad guys here?? That's where I draw the line....get on the right team here people!



toggletoggle post by brian_dc  at Aug 24,2006 1:07pm
Well then what did you start this to talk about? What are you recommending other than just complaining? Yes, Muslim extremists are dangerous and yes that is a bad thing. It's funny how the jump after that conclusion is to say, "kill 'em all" or make some comment that it's ok when innocent Muslims are killed. I'm not saying you're saying that here, but yeah...I guess...what are you saying here?



toggletoggle post by HailTheLeaf  at Aug 24,2006 1:07pm edited Aug 24,2006 1:22pm
Murph said:
Don't forget holding mass hypnosis in athletic stadiums. Billy Graham can drop my balls right in his mouth, there's your communion, bitch.


I can't believe Pat Robertson's 700 club is on ABC family channel...sickening. Christians used to light people on fire and slowly roast them for practicing other religions, now they just invade countries and bomb and shoot people.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Aug 24,2006 1:08pm
Germany has always had a huge muslim population.
I may have a little jew from my great-grandfather on my mother's mother's side that comes from that area. you can't guarantee anything other than people like to fuck.



toggletoggle post by niccolai   at Aug 24,2006 1:11pm edited Aug 24,2006 1:11pm
You can't be a 'little jewish'

It's a religion. It drives me crazy when people say that. Iff your great great great grandmother got her boink on with a german jew, that would make you part german, not part jewish.

Hey, I'm a seventeenth agnostic.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Aug 24,2006 1:12pm
saying "kill em all" makes you as bad as them. figuring out how to make extremists go away (even through targetted assasinations) is fine by me. bombing school and milk plants isn't fine by me.

".they string you up and kill you for being anything"
just like "we white people" have in the past, are in the present, and will in the future. one problem with a lot of these places is that technology hasn't invaded their lives. we need to get them playing gameboys and eating. this will move them from the year 1492 into present day stuff.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Aug 24,2006 1:13pm
"jewish" is not only a religion, but a race.
12 tribes of isreal my brother. read a book or something.



toggletoggle post by niccolai   at Aug 24,2006 1:15pm
hebrew. Not Jewish.

You are a non sematic heeb. you can't be a non sematic jew.



toggletoggle post by brian_dc  at Aug 24,2006 1:16pm
niccolai said:
You can't be a 'little jewish'

It's a religion. It drives me crazy when people say that. Iff your great great great grandmother got her boink on with a german jew, that would make you part german, not part jewish.

Hey, I'm a seventeenth agnostic.


No, Judaism is a religion. Jewish is a heritage. There are probably more secular Jews than their are religious Jews. But actually, the way it works is that the heritage has to be a part of your maternal bloodline. I don't know why, but that's the way it is.



toggletoggle post by brian_dc  at Aug 24,2006 1:17pm
now we're just arguing semantics.



toggletoggle post by niccolai   at Aug 24,2006 1:17pm
Oh brian wants in on this too huh?

Where's my razor.

I'm going to cut you two so good meng.



Wait.. then what the fuck does that make Madona?



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Aug 24,2006 1:17pm
I don't consider myself a racist guy per say. But growing up in Brockton race, and culture were always a big big issues. There was always this underlying idea that regular ass white people should feel a certain amount of cultural guilt.

I say to Islam the same thing I've said about black people, and Jews, or whatever: What exactly am I supposed to feel sorry for? Slavery was terrible, but it ended about 50 years before my ancestors ever came to America. The holocaust was horrible, but just about everyone in my family line who could was fighting a war against it. And now Islam wants my guilt too, and for what?



toggletoggle post by brian_dc  at Aug 24,2006 1:17pm edited Aug 24,2006 1:18pm
the_reverend said:
saying "kill em all" makes you as bad as them. figuring out how to make extremists go away (even through targetted assasinations) is fine by me. bombing school and milk plants isn't fine by me.


yep, that's the irony I was getting at.



toggletoggle post by brian_dc  at Aug 24,2006 1:18pm
niccolai said:
Wait.. then what the fuck does that make Madona?


A stupid whore who happens to read the Torah.



toggletoggle post by hoser at Aug 24,2006 1:19pm
brian_dc said:
Well then what did you start this to talk about? What are you recommending other than just complaining? Yes, Muslim extremists are dangerous and yes that is a bad thing. It's funny how the jump after that conclusion is to say, "kill 'em all" or make some comment that it's ok when innocent Muslims are killed. I'm not saying you're saying that here, but yeah...I guess...what are you saying here?


What?....Where am I???




toggletoggle post by niccolai   at Aug 24,2006 1:20pm
xmikex said:
I don't consider myself a racist guy per say. But growing up in Brockton race, and culture were always a big big issues. There was always this underlying idea that regular ass white people should feel a certain amount of cultural guilt.

I say to Islam the same thing I've said about black people, and Jews, or whatever: What exactly am I supposed to feel sorry for? Slavery was terrible, but it ended about 50 years before my ancestors ever came to America. The holocaust was horrible, but just about everyone in my family line who could was fighting a war against it. And now Islam wants my guilt too, and for what?




I love that. People expect me to feel guilty for slavery when i'm a first generation immigrant who had nothing to do with slavery, nor did my ancestors, but I'm just not black so i must have done somethign wrong.



toggletoggle post by niccolai   at Aug 24,2006 1:21pm
brian_dc said:
niccolai said:
Wait.. then what the fuck does that make Madona?


A stupid whore who happens to read the Torah.




Hey, She buys WAYYYY more Cabala water than Aaron does, so she's just as jewish as he is!



toggletoggle post by brian_dc  at Aug 24,2006 1:21pm
xmikex said:
I don't consider myself a racist guy per say. But growing up in Brockton race, and culture were always a big big issues. There was always this underlying idea that regular ass white people should feel a certain amount of cultural guilt.

I say to Islam the same thing I've said about black people, and Jews, or whatever: What exactly am I supposed to feel sorry for? Slavery was terrible, but it ended about 50 years before my ancestors ever came to America. The holocaust was horrible, but just about everyone in my family line who could was fighting a war against it. And now Islam wants my guilt too, and for what?


Nobody should be asking for guilt. That's just lame. But since ignorance is also lame, just a little bit of understanding that there is a difference between the kind of people who roll around blowing shit up in the name of Allah and the millions of other Islamic people who aren't like that would be nice. Whatever, though. People are generally going to think what they think. This will all be off our radar within the next 20 years.



toggletoggle post by brian_dc  at Aug 24,2006 1:23pm
hoser said:
brian_dc said:
Well then what did you start this to talk about? What are you recommending other than just complaining? Yes, Muslim extremists are dangerous and yes that is a bad thing. It's funny how the jump after that conclusion is to say, "kill 'em all" or make some comment that it's ok when innocent Muslims are killed. I'm not saying you're saying that here, but yeah...I guess...what are you saying here?


What?....Where am I???



Probably Maine, right?



toggletoggle post by HailTheLeaf  at Aug 24,2006 1:30pm
Those people look different from us and believe other things! We don't want to take the time to understand them, so let's kill them! Wonderful way to look at the world eh?



toggletoggle post by Man_of_the_Century at Aug 24,2006 1:32pm
HailTheLeaf said:
Those people look different from us and believe other things! We don't want to take the time to understand them, so let's kill them! Wonderful way to look at the world eh?


They do the same to us...

And by they I mean the extremists.



toggletoggle post by powerkok   at Aug 24,2006 1:36pm
HailTheLeaf said:
Those people look different from us and believe other things! We don't want to take the time to understand them, so let's kill them! Wonderful way to look at the world eh?


I wish you were an Afghani wife.
I would stone you so hard.



toggletoggle post by powerkok   at Aug 24,2006 1:37pm
And btw......htl.....Get back in the fucking kitchen in between loads of laundry, bitch!!!!!



toggletoggle post by Josh_Martin at Aug 24,2006 1:52pm
powerkok said:
Well you dont see Christians rallying with signs that threaten death to an entire continental region, do ya, smarty?


Maybe not a whole continent but I believe these morons are all christians

http://www.godhatesfags.com



toggletoggle post by HailTheLeaf  at Aug 24,2006 2:21pm
Man_of_the_Century said:
HailTheLeaf said:
Those people look different from us and believe other things! We don't want to take the time to understand them, so let's kill them! Wonderful way to look at the world eh?


They do the same to us...

And by they I mean the extremists.


Really? They've invaded our country and bombed our houses? they've taken control of our government and resources? When did this happen? My electricity and water haven't been inturupted yet...I'm just taking a stab here, but maybe if our government stopped invading other countries and fucking with people, there might be fewer extermists in the Middle East who want us all dead.




toggletoggle post by Man_of_the_Century at Aug 24,2006 2:40pm
HailTheLeaf said:
Really? They've invaded our country and bombed our houses? they've taken control of our government and resources? When did this happen? My electricity and water haven't been inturupted yet...I'm just taking a stab here, but maybe if our government stopped invading other countries and fucking with people, there might be fewer extermists in the Middle East who want us all dead.



So terrorism started just as we invaded Iraq? Oh, thats right, its been around for hundreds and thousands of years. What was thier justification then? Did we invade them before? Maybe it was Operation Desert Storm? Nope, we were defending a weaker country. I know, they must have been able to see in the future, knew we were going to invade them right now, and wanted to get a jump-start on it.

I wish I could live in your world where all we had to do was throw down our arms and the world would be filled with peace and happiness. Here in the real world, it doesn't work like that. Never has, never will. There is always going to be war, death, poverty, starvation, ect. The only thing people can do is try not to be the ones with the shit end of the stick.

There are only two ways to eliminate religious extremists... #1 - Everyone follows the same religion or #2 - No one follows any religion. Either way, there will always be extremists. And pointing your finger is not going to solve anything.



toggletoggle post by hoser at Aug 24,2006 2:45pm
Nope. They have been extremists for 1,000 years, and will continue whether we are there or not. They've been doing this shit to each other since the Persian Empires. They did it to Spain, France, Germany...just to name a few, and all before the Roman Empire took over.

Secondly....as a woman, you wouldn't even be able to attend school in their countries. You couldn't vote, you couldn't even show your face except to your husband. Why aren't you pissing and moaning about the rights that women over there DON'T have? How about female babies being DROWNED in China? How about the Chinese setting a child per couple limit of 2? So parents drown the females until they get a male. Where is all of your outrage in these areas of concern? How about MS13 gangs infiltrating your cities with their drugs and violence....where's the outrage!? I would agree with you if you just stopped bashing your country based on foreign policy that you don't believe is justified. How about the human rights everywhere else in the world that are being stomped on by militaristic, dictatorial, self proclaimed kings?

My point is that this shit goes on everywhere. Stop bashing your country all of the time. If you want to bash something, bash all power and religion, and I guarantee that I'll end up agreeing with you. Just have a little pride in the fact that you are American and can enjoy freedoms that people elsewhere in the world would give their lives to have.

I hope that was coherent. Sorry if it wasn't.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Aug 24,2006 2:48pm
" How about the Chinese setting a child per couple limit of 2?"

2? try 1. you need to stop writing your facts down on ane etchersketch. every time a bee buszzes around you, you wipe out 1/2 the things you think you know.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Aug 24,2006 2:49pm
freedom means people being able to say the shit that she says and you say.
GIVE THEM THE FREEDOM TO POST ABOUT THEIR DUKIES ON THE INTERNET!



toggletoggle post by Man_of_the_Century at Aug 24,2006 2:53pm
hoser said:
Nope. They have been extremists for 1,000 years, and will continue whether we are there or not. They've been doing this shit to each other since the Persian Empires. They did it to Spain, France, Germany...just to name a few, and all before the Roman Empire took over.


The first terrorist group was believed to be in the 1st century, during the Roman empire.



toggletoggle post by HailTheLeaf  at Aug 24,2006 3:00pm edited Aug 24,2006 3:02pm
that's right Hoser, there are human rights atoricties all over the world, but since America projects itself as this superpower of freedom and democracy while commiting war crimes with our money, I have a bigger problem with that at the moment. If China had better access to bith control, there would be no babies to drown...their government obviously has it's head up it's own ass...like many, many others. Take pride in being an American? Why would I take pride in something I had nothing to do with... I was born here, I had no control over it, it's not like I risked my life floating over here on a raft, or walking through a desert dodging a border partol. The people who go through that and make it might have something to be proud of, but everyone else should really get over themselves. We're not fucking special.



toggletoggle post by powerkok   at Aug 24,2006 3:03pm
What did I tell you....get back in the fucking kitchen, in between loads of wash.
You know what happens, when I tell you 3 x.
TWO black eyes!



toggletoggle post by CaptainCleanoff at Aug 24,2006 3:21pm
HailTheLeaf said:
that's right Hoser, there are human rights atoricties all over the world, but since America projects itself as this superpower of freedom and democracy while commiting war crimes with our money, I have a bigger problem with that at the moment. If China had better access to bith control, there would be no babies to drown...their government obviously has it's head up it's own ass...like many, many others. Take pride in being an American? Why would I take pride in something I had nothing to do with... I was born here, I had no control over it, it's not like I risked my life floating over here on a raft, or walking through a desert dodging a border partol. The people who go through that and make it might have something to be proud of, but everyone else should really get over themselves. We're not fucking special.


Oh jeez, it is trying to make a useless point again.




toggletoggle post by brian_dc  at Aug 24,2006 3:26pm
hoser said:


My point is that this shit goes on everywhere. Stop bashing your country all of the time. If you want to bash something, bash all power and religion, and I guarantee that I'll end up agreeing with you. Just have a little pride in the fact that you are American and can enjoy freedoms that people elsewhere in the world would give their lives to have.



See, I completely agree with this point even though that isn't what you've been expressing here. The only reason I got invovled at all is that it seemed you were exclusively bashing Islam until Rev started calling out other religions. And Islam is not the problem. It's exactly power and religion in general.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Aug 24,2006 3:26pm
"The first terrorist group was believed to be in the 1st century, during the Roman empire."

tell that to the jews in egypt. how many plagues were there again?



toggletoggle post by brian_dc  at Aug 24,2006 3:29pm
Oh, but I do hope that you don't think that the United States should have a clear conscience. That would be ignorant. We all have to live with our dirty laundry, but denial of it just makes us puppets.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Aug 24,2006 3:30pm



toggletoggle post by Man_of_the_Century at Aug 24,2006 3:54pm
the_reverend said:
"The first terrorist group was believed to be in the 1st century, during the Roman empire."

tell that to the jews in egypt. how many plagues were there again?


I'm not sure what you mean...



toggletoggle post by hoser at Aug 24,2006 4:34pm
the_reverend said:
" How about the Chinese setting a child per couple limit of 2?"

2? try 1. you need to stop writing your facts down on ane etchersketch. every time a bee buszzes around you, you wipe out 1/2 the things you think you know.


Oh jeez....you read that somewhere after you read my post. At least I knew about the fact that they has a child limit to begin with.

HA!




toggletoggle post by KillerKadoogan   at Aug 24,2006 6:36pm
I'd just like to point out that one of the background signs says something about the Fantastic 4:



toggletoggle post by KillerKadoogan   at Aug 24,2006 6:37pm
NON-ISLAMS
YOU WILL PAY
THE FANTASTIC 4 ARE ON THEIR WAY!!!



toggletoggle post by hungtableed at Aug 24,2006 6:39pm
we should start gassing Arabs. Fuck it, we should even be in the business of drowning the pricks.



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Aug 24,2006 7:14pm
hungtableed said:
we should start gassing Arabs. Fuck it, we should even be in the business of drowning the pricks.


Along with those trouble making bastard fuckin Israelis. They are the true reason for the problems.



toggletoggle post by CNV at Aug 24,2006 8:00pm
If someone came into my village, stole my land, bulldozed my home, shot my friends and family, and then told me how to live I would be just as extreme as these so called terrorists

Extreme enough that I would not care if I lived or died

The only thing that would matter at that point would be killing jews

hahahaha



toggletoggle post by hungtableed at Aug 24,2006 9:19pm
CNV said:
If someone came into my village, stole my land, bulldozed my home, shot my friends and family, and then told me how to live I would be just as extreme as these so called terrorists

Extreme enough that I would not care if I lived or died

The only thing that would matter at that point would be killing jews

hahahaha


hahahaha

extreme enough to think that even women are less than human and you would wrap them in fucking rags and treat them like fucking livestock. Face it, no matter how fucked up you think the jews are, the fucking smelly arabs are so much worse. If the U.S. had half the ball bag that we should, the middle east would be reduced to rubble - a nuclear waste land.




toggletoggle post by babyshaker not logged in at Aug 24,2006 9:34pm
CNV said:
If someone came into my village, stole my land, bulldozed my home, shot my friends and family, and then told me how to live I would be just as extreme as these so called terrorists

Extreme enough that I would not care if I lived or died

The only thing that would matter at that point would be killing jews

hahahaha


wow i actually agree with this statment



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Aug 24,2006 9:49pm
quote from hungtableed...
"extreme enough to think that even women are less than human and you would wrap them in fucking rags and treat them like fucking livestock. Face it, no matter how fucked up you think the jews are, the fucking smelly arabs are so much worse. If the U.S. had half the ball bag that we should, the middle east would be reduced to rubble - a nuclear waste land."

Fuckin A including NAZI Israel !!!



toggletoggle post by Hoser at Aug 25,2006 12:55am
Did anyone notice that all of these signs seem to have the same handwriting?

Photoshopped? HMMMMMMMM....Rev already said that methinks.



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Aug 25,2006 5:12am
Hoser said:
Did anyone notice that all of these signs seem to have the same handwriting?

Photoshopped? HMMMMMMMM....Rev already said that methinks.


Dude, you are so fuckin right!



toggletoggle post by CNV at Aug 25,2006 10:25am
hungtableed said:
CNV said:
If someone came into my village, stole my land, bulldozed my home, shot my friends and family, and then told me how to live I would be just as extreme as these so called terrorists

Extreme enough that I would not care if I lived or died

The only thing that would matter at that point would be killing jews

hahahaha


hahahaha

extreme enough to think that even women are less than human and you would wrap them in fucking rags and treat them like fucking livestock. Face it, no matter how fucked up you think the jews are, the fucking smelly arabs are so much worse. If the U.S. had half the ball bag that we should, the middle east would be reduced to rubble - a nuclear waste land.



I could care less if they wrap their women in fucking tin foil, as long as they are far, far away from me

Out of sight and out of mind

Our support for that rat hole Israel is what makes me have to worry about arabs

Israel is the real problem

and I bet your a jew, hahahahaha

I have a joke I made up

What is another term for anti semetism???

Telling the truth, bwahahahahaha

Hezbollah!!!!!



toggletoggle post by Man_of_the_Century at Aug 25,2006 10:32am
HTL, You never responded to me... Why is that? Here it is again in case you missed it.


Man_of_the_Century said:
HailTheLeaf said:
Really? They've invaded our country and bombed our houses? they've taken control of our government and resources? When did this happen? My electricity and water haven't been inturupted yet...I'm just taking a stab here, but maybe if our government stopped invading other countries and fucking with people, there might be fewer extermists in the Middle East who want us all dead.



So terrorism started just as we invaded Iraq? Oh, thats right, its been around for hundreds and thousands of years. What was thier justification then? Did we invade them before? Maybe it was Operation Desert Storm? Nope, we were defending a weaker country. I know, they must have been able to see in the future, knew we were going to invade them right now, and wanted to get a jump-start on it.

I wish I could live in your world where all we had to do was throw down our arms and the world would be filled with peace and happiness. Here in the real world, it doesn't work like that. Never has, never will. There is always going to be war, death, poverty, starvation, ect. The only thing people can do is try not to be the ones with the shit end of the stick.

There are only two ways to eliminate religious extremists... #1 - Everyone follows the same religion or #2 - No one follows any religion. Either way, there will always be extremists. And pointing your finger is not going to solve anything.





toggletoggle post by Dick Tracy at Aug 25,2006 10:35am
ALLAH BAKLAVAHHH!!!



toggletoggle post by ct borderpatrol at Aug 25,2006 10:44am
i dont think we should kill all the musims, but i do belive they should be shipped out of europe back into their lands where they can have shira law. fuck this immigration flood in the west. us european people no longer have a legitimate claim to turf anymore thanks to the globalist scum.



toggletoggle post by brian_dc  at Aug 25,2006 11:08am
Hoser said:
Did anyone notice that all of these signs seem to have the same handwriting?

Photoshopped? HMMMMMMMM....Rev already said that methinks.


that is one possibility. It's a strong one, there are the occasions where there is only one person who makes the signs and hands them out at the protest location and junk.

Though the Fantastic 4 thing makes me think that someone is pulling a practical joke.



toggletoggle post by ShadowSD  at Aug 25,2006 11:41am edited Aug 25,2006 12:48pm
hoser said:
These people are downright fucking dangerous. It could be YOUR family on the next plane that they bomb, or building that they destroy....all in the name of Allah.


Yes, exactly. That's why I take issue with leaders who enact policies that strengthen those terrorists and increase their ability to attack us. Our leaders, by making foreign policy decisions that hurt our standing in the world and making us seem like the GREATER of two evils to reasonable Muslims across the globe, are just as dangerous, because their actions bolster terrorist sympathy and recruitment around the world.

The difference is, our leaders, unlike the terrorists, take our tax dollars and talk endlessly about how they're actually protecting us from terror, while calling anyone who disagrees with them unpatriotic terrorist sympathizers (which prevents anyone from even SUGGESTING a course change in policy in order to merely protect ourselves). Those leaders are just are downright fucking dangerous as the terrorists who benefit from their foreign policy blunders.


hoser said:
All organized religions suck......Feel free to worship whatever, I could give a damn...that's your right. BUT not in their countries...they string you up and kill you for being anything BUT Muslim there....and we're the bad guys here??


Like you said, all organized religion sucks, and we have extremists of every monotheistic religion causing today's problems. Christian and Jewish extremists who have pushed the US into a completely pro-Israel policy have provided the fuel without which Islamic extremists wouldn't GIVE A FUCK about America. If those Christian and Jewish extremists hadn't hijacked US foreign policy, Muslim extremists wouldn't be nearly as dangerous to us. So I don't see the point of singling out Muslims in this thread; we win the argument if this war on terror is civilization against religious extremists, they win if they can position it as Christian vs. Muslim. So why we should help them?

After all, most Islamic extremists live in a culture of religious fascism, while we have a two century history of a pluralistic society; if we can't be the ones who prevent this from being seen as a purely holy war, they sure as hell won't.



toggletoggle post by wow at Aug 25,2006 12:42pm
even if the muslims did nothing wrong, kill them anyway for saying alah akbar every 5 seconds.



toggletoggle post by wow at Aug 25,2006 12:46pm
nooo its cool to wear rags on our heads.



toggletoggle post by wow at Aug 25,2006 12:47pm
oh yeah and lets try and haggle everything we buy at retail stores where you can't actually haggle. fuck



toggletoggle post by BobNOMAAMRooney nli at Aug 25,2006 12:49pm
And let's charge an additional buck fifty for cheese on a CHEESEBURGER at our sub shops.




toggletoggle post by BobNOMAAMRooney nli at Aug 25,2006 12:51pm
Here's a question about Arabs.

Why is it that the Arab guys at the gas station near my house are all cool while the ones who work at sub shops are fucking douchebags?

Don't you think you'd be more bitter selling something that your family and homeland are being bombed over than some meatballs?



toggletoggle post by ShadowSD  at Aug 25,2006 12:55pm
Maybe it's because the ones with a gas station feel like they have a piece of the pie, while the others feel like they're designing edible dildos for mass consumption.



toggletoggle post by BobNOMAAMRooney nli at Aug 25,2006 12:58pm
That and the whole having to handle three types of pork when someone wants and Italian



toggletoggle post by hoser at Aug 25,2006 1:17pm
BobNOMAAMRooney nli said:
That and the whole having to handle three types of pork when someone wants and Italian



Hahahahahahahahahaha......I'll take a pork bomb please.




toggletoggle post by HailTheLeaf  at Aug 25,2006 3:11pm edited Aug 25,2006 3:15pm
Man_of_the_Century said:
HTL, You never responded to me... Why is that? Here it is again in case you missed it.



Because I had better things to do yesterday.


HailTheLeaf said:
Really? They've invaded our country and bombed our houses? they've taken control of our government and resources? When did this happen? My electricity and water haven't been inturupted yet...I'm just taking a stab here, but maybe if our government stopped invading other countries and fucking with people, there might be fewer extermists in the Middle East who want us all dead.


So terrorism started just as we invaded Iraq? Oh, thats right, its been around for hundreds and thousands of years. What was thier justification then? Did we invade them before? Maybe it was Operation Desert Storm? Nope, we were defending a weaker country. I know, they must have been able to see in the future, knew we were going to invade them right now, and wanted to get a jump-start on it.


No, we started terrorizing other countries long before Iraq, but there's no justification for it now, nor has there ever been. I don't know what "their" justification is, whoever they are. Is your argument that because other countries are doing it, it's ok for us to? Because that's pretty sad, by that logic everyone should be able to have nuclear weapons, that would be fantastic wouldn't it? We were defending OIL in Operation Desert storm...and testing neat new chemicals out on "our troops", then denying them proper medical care when they came home, denying they were exposed to anything in the first place. What was our justification for napalming children in Vietnam?, they must've been a real threat. How about the secret wars in Columbia? I'm sure there's alot of justification there.



toggletoggle post by BornSoVile   at Aug 25,2006 3:33pm
arn't those pictures from when those brutal Danish cartoons drew Allah?



toggletoggle post by hoser at Aug 25,2006 3:55pm
HTL....ITS WAR RETARD...KIDS GET KILLED!!! HOLY SHIT!! THERE IS NO JUSTIFICATION THERE IT JUST FUCKING HAPPENS!!!! GAAAAHHHHHH!!!!!!! IT HAPPENS!!!!!

HOOOOOOLY SHIT!!! YOU THINK THAT WE WANTED TO NAPALM KIDS IN VIETNAM!!!?!?!???? THE COWARDLY ENEMY HIDE AMONGST THEIR CIVILIANS!!!!!

THEY THINK THAT WE WON'T DO IT IF THERE ARE WOMEN AND CHILDREN AROUND. INSTEAD OF FIGHTING THEY FUCKING HIDE IN THE STREETS LIKE THE SOMALI'S DID TO US....THEY WALK WITH WOMEN AND CHILDREN AND SHOOT AT UD FROM WITHIN THEM.....WHAT ARE WE SUPPOSED TO DO?? STAND THERE AND LET THEM SHOOT AT US OR MOW THE FUCKING CROWD DOWN?

MOW THEM DOWN...THERE IS NO JUSTIFICATION AT ALL....IT'S WAR!!!



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Aug 25,2006 4:19pm
hoser said:
HTL....ITS WAR RETARD...KIDS GET KILLED!!! HOLY SHIT!! THERE IS NO JUSTIFICATION THERE IT JUST FUCKING HAPPENS!!!! GAAAAHHHHHH!!!!!!! IT HAPPENS!!!!!

HOOOOOOLY SHIT!!! YOU THINK THAT WE WANTED TO NAPALM KIDS IN VIETNAM!!!?!?!???? THE COWARDLY ENEMY HIDE AMONGST THEIR CIVILIANS!!!!!

THEY THINK THAT WE WON'T DO IT IF THERE ARE WOMEN AND CHILDREN AROUND. INSTEAD OF FIGHTING THEY FUCKING HIDE IN THE STREETS LIKE THE SOMALI'S DID TO US....THEY WALK WITH WOMEN AND CHILDREN AND SHOOT AT UD FROM WITHIN THEM.....WHAT ARE WE SUPPOSED TO DO?? STAND THERE AND LET THEM SHOOT AT US OR MOW THE FUCKING CROWD DOWN?

MOW THEM DOWN...THERE IS NO JUSTIFICATION AT ALL....IT'S WAR!!!


Youre right. Now if we would just start doing the same to those fuckin jew bastards there would be balance. FUCK ISRAEL!!!!



toggletoggle post by Man_of_the_Century at Aug 25,2006 4:20pm
HailTheLeaf said:
No, we started terrorizing other countries long before Iraq, but there's no justification for it now, nor has there ever been. I don't know what "their" justification is, whoever they are. Is your argument that because other countries are doing it, it's ok for us to? Because that's pretty sad, by that logic everyone should be able to have nuclear weapons, that would be fantastic wouldn't it? We were defending OIL in Operation Desert storm...and testing neat new chemicals out on "our troops", then denying them proper medical care when they came home, denying they were exposed to anything in the first place. What was our justification for napalming children in Vietnam?, they must've been a real threat. How about the secret wars in Columbia? I'm sure there's alot of justification there.


My arguement is that you can't point the finger at us saying we started everything if we didn't start everything (not to say we didn't help, or try to stop it). There is justification in invading Iraq, Saddam was a horrible man and leader, and Iraq will be better in the future now that he's gone. I also think there are many countries that were worse than them, and they have worse leaders, and we should invade them too.

"I don't know what "their" justification is" - If you don't know what their justification is, then you are the one that doesn't know all the facts. Why do you act like you do.

Operation Desert Storm was a war about oil. But it wasn't the U.S. fighting to get oil. It was us liberating Kuwait, who was invaded by Iraq, who wanted their oil.



toggletoggle post by pam   at Aug 25,2006 5:00pm
HTL- I don't understand how you can think this country isn't special. Yes, we're fucked up. No, we're not perfect and we do some horrific shit. But we have the right to complain about it. We can have as many kids as we want, We women can go to school and wear what we please. We have no national religion (supposedly) and no one is going to stone you to death if they see your ankles. If our freedoms and the remarkable things we've accomplished in our very few years as a country mean so fucking little to you, get the fuck out.
This war kills me. I watch the news and want to cry. I think we really dropped the ball on a lot of things, but the reality of the situation is, we can't leave now. Bushie got us in way too deep. Do I mourn the kids and women and innocent civilians that are dying in heaps? YES. Does that make us a barbaric and horrible country worthy of your CONSTANT fucking complaining? NO. War sucks. It's ugly and unfair. We didn't need to invade Iraq and now the can of worms is wide open, so we can either look for ways to solve these problems, to help these people, to do what we can...or we can sit around a whine about what a horrible country we are.

What the fuck is the matter with you? Why do you spend so much time reading articles and learning about the injustices in the country and beyond if you don't love this country? You wouldn't be able to whine about this shit in most countries. They'd hunt you down and kill you. So be fucking GRATEFUL you were born here where you have fucking rights. Worry about those rights being upheld, worry about the issues in this country, but don't you dare think this country isn't special and go on living here. You cannot say you want things to be better here, or that you want the US to be better to others and say in the same breath that we're just nothing special. Your horrible negative attitude and lack of love for this country is PART OF THE PROBLEM, not the fucking solution.



toggletoggle post by CaptainCleanoff at Aug 25,2006 5:35pm
pam said:
HTL- I don't understand how you can think this country isn't special. Yes, we're fucked up. No, we're not perfect and we do some horrific shit. But we have the right to complain about it. We can have as many kids as we want, We women can go to school and wear what we please. We have no national religion (supposedly) and no one is going to stone you to death if they see your ankles. If our freedoms and the remarkable things we've accomplished in our very few years as a country mean so fucking little to you, get the fuck out.
This war kills me. I watch the news and want to cry. I think we really dropped the ball on a lot of things, but the reality of the situation is, we can't leave now. Bushie got us in way too deep. Do I mourn the kids and women and innocent civilians that are dying in heaps? YES. Does that make us a barbaric and horrible country worthy of your CONSTANT fucking complaining? NO. War sucks. It's ugly and unfair. We didn't need to invade Iraq and now the can of worms is wide open, so we can either look for ways to solve these problems, to help these people, to do what we can...or we can sit around a whine about what a horrible country we are.

What the fuck is the matter with you? Why do you spend so much time reading articles and learning about the injustices in the country and beyond if you don't love this country? You wouldn't be able to whine about this shit in most countries. They'd hunt you down and kill you. So be fucking GRATEFUL you were born here where you have fucking rights. Worry about those rights being upheld, worry about the issues in this country, but don't you dare think this country isn't special and go on living here. You cannot say you want things to be better here, or that you want the US to be better to others and say in the same breath that we're just nothing special. Your horrible negative attitude and lack of love for this country is PART OF THE PROBLEM, not the fucking solution.



I don't believe in God, but AMEN TO THAT!! Thanks Pam for putting this douche in her place, even though I think her place should be in another country that would oppress her useless hippy ass.



toggletoggle post by pam   at Aug 25,2006 5:41pm
You're welcome.



toggletoggle post by ShadowSD  at Aug 25,2006 6:10pm edited Aug 25,2006 6:19pm
Like Pam I can understand the we can't withdraw argument MUCH better than the we should have gone to war argument. Leaving in the middle of a commitment causes chaos, and betrays those counting on our protection. It really seems like an open and shut argument. It's not.

Logically, you have to be able to sit back and ask, what if the situation can only get worse from here? Let's say things are inevitably going to deteriorate, leading to us ultimately being forced to leave anyway; what does that mean coupled with more anti-American sentiment around the world every day we stay there, leading to a greater amount of sympathy towards, harboring of, and recruitment of terrorists? If we can determine within a reasonable certainty that we have nothing to gain by remaining, do we still stay regardless of the price? Or is there a limit?

The situation in Iraq allows one of two choices, both terrible. We can leave, causing the country to deteriorate further into chaos; terrorists will be able to train there en masse, the democratic strides made thus far will fall into shambles, and the country will be a bigger threat than ever before to us and our allies. Or we can stay in Iraq, and all those things will happen anyway, a few years later but much more intense, after the deaths of thousands more US troops, and thousands more terrorists recruited due to anti-American sentiment created by every day of the Iraq occupation. Take your pick.

If we don't like those two options, that's why we should never have gone in the first place. No one wants to be stuck between amputating a leg or a head, but I was saying this long before the war, the whole argument against regime change in Iraq is that once we get in, we will not be able to leave without causing chaos, because NO COUNTRY IN HISTORY HAS LIKED BEING OCCUPIED. We can either take this historical lesson, which should have been obvious to a donkey from the outset, and learn from it, or not. Things can't get better in Iraq. They never could have from the start, because we would inevitably been viewed as occupiers (which has the added bonus of daily reminding the Arab world of the Palestinian occupation also paid for by US tax dollars, which is what inspired Islamic terrorism against American civilians in the first place, ultimately leading to 9/11).




toggletoggle post by ShadowSD  at Aug 25,2006 6:16pm edited Aug 25,2006 6:18pm
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toggletoggle post by pam   at Aug 25,2006 6:34pm
Oh we DEFINATELY shouldn't have gone there in the first place. I don't know if it will get worse but I'm sure it will. We're involved now, we actually expected a country to just revolutionize and stand alone in a matter of years. Not gonna happen. We also should have been more secure here at home and more prepared for attack. Woulda, shoulda, coulda. Can't wait for 2008.



toggletoggle post by Hoser at Aug 25,2006 6:35pm edited Aug 25,2006 6:36pm
I figured out the major problem here......we're all too smart for our own good. RTTP for Congress. We could all bicker there and then have a metal show. It would be cool.

I agree that we shouldn't have been there in the 1st place, but I also believe that like anything else....once you commit...finish the fucking job. Problem with war is...there is no finishing anything without Genocide....which is not plausible by any means.

War sucks...bottom line....people die, and that's the most heart wrenching thing about it. We just have to do our best to minimalize the death.



toggletoggle post by ShadowSD  at Aug 25,2006 6:39pm
Hoser said:
I figured out the major problem here......we're all too smart for our own good. RTTP for Congress. We could all bicker there and then have a metal show. It would be cool.


Ha, that's the best form of goverment I can think of.



toggletoggle post by KillerKadoogan   at Aug 25,2006 6:41pm
KillerKadoogan said:
NON-ISLAMS
YOU WILL PAY
THE FANTASTIC 4 ARE ON THEIR WAY!!!





toggletoggle post by pam   at Aug 25,2006 7:00pm
Hoser said:
I figured out the major problem here......we're all too smart for our own good. RTTP for Congress. We could all bicker there and then have a metal show. It would be cool.

I agree that we shouldn't have been there in the 1st place, but I also believe that like anything else....once you commit...finish the fucking job. Problem with war is...there is no finishing anything without Genocide....which is not plausible by any means.

War sucks...bottom line....people die, and that's the most heart wrenching thing about it. We just have to do our best to minimalize the death.


Are you SURE you're hard-core right wing? You're a little too smart to play on their side.



toggletoggle post by Dankill at Aug 25,2006 7:28pm
HEY HEY HEY

Come on, Pam. Some of us are reasonable, educated people who have different views on how to run things. Not the evil boogeymen that Hailtheleaf seem to believe is hiding around every corner.

I think we'd do pretty good as Congress. The recesses would include booze and metal down the street before reconvening.

VOTE DANKILL IN '06



toggletoggle post by ShadowSD  at Aug 25,2006 7:34pm
Vote for me, I can triangulate better than Clinton and it doesn't involve three different chicks.



toggletoggle post by Dankill at Aug 25,2006 7:35pm
Hmmmmm, I can't touch that with a ten foot pole.
But dammit, people like me!



toggletoggle post by ShadowSD  at Aug 25,2006 7:37pm
Don't worry dude, we're running in different districts.



toggletoggle post by pam   at Aug 25,2006 7:44pm
ShadowSD said:
Vote for me, I can triangulate better than Clinton and it doesn't involve three different chicks.



I'd be more inclined to vote for you if there WERE three chicks involved.



toggletoggle post by ShadowSD  at Aug 25,2006 7:51pm
Uh oh, I'm losing the take-no-prisoners-metal-chick vote...

I would like to state that I support and have always supported orgies and the family values they instill.

That was close.



toggletoggle post by ShadowSD  at Aug 25,2006 7:52pm
On a serious note, Pam, I was bummed to hear you won't be coming to the party tomorrow. I will see to it that we all toast a drink to you in your absence.



toggletoggle post by Dankill at Aug 25,2006 9:06pm
HA!
I can always win by smut politik.



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Aug 25,2006 9:26pm
ShadowSD said:
On a serious note, Pam, I was bummed to hear you won't be coming to the party tomorrow. I will see to it that we all toast a drink to you in your absence.


I know! I'd totally be there but I already had multiple plans that day, plus Jon is coming from NJ and obviously I'm not with him. Have about 15 beers for me.



toggletoggle post by pam nli at Aug 25,2006 9:27pm
^^^that was me



toggletoggle post by Abbath at Aug 25,2006 10:23pm edited Aug 25,2006 10:24pm
KillerKadoogan said:
I'd just like to point out that one of the background signs says something about the Fantastic 4:



hahahahahha it looks like the sign says "the fantastic four are on their way!" that doods a little too excited for the movie next year



toggletoggle post by dwellingsickness at Aug 25,2006 10:36pm edited Aug 25,2006 10:37pm
Stupid threads like this should be on a seperate forum......Branch out Rev, Get a political forum goin so this crap don't waste all the space


Better yet.....Hoser and Hailtheleaf, Should make up their own forum or exchange numers or something!



toggletoggle post by HailTheLeaf  at Aug 25,2006 11:27pm
pam said:
HTL- I don't understand how you can think this country isn't special. Yes, we're fucked up. No, we're not perfect and we do some horrific shit. But we have the right to complain about it. We can have as many kids as we want, We women can go to school and wear what we please. We have no national religion (supposedly) and no one is going to stone you to death if they see your ankles. If our freedoms and the remarkable things we've accomplished in our very few years as a country mean so fucking little to you, get the fuck out.
This war kills me. I watch the news and want to cry. I think we really dropped the ball on a lot of things, but the reality of the situation is, we can't leave now. Bushie got us in way too deep. Do I mourn the kids and women and innocent civilians that are dying in heaps? YES. Does that make us a barbaric and horrible country worthy of your CONSTANT fucking complaining? NO. War sucks. It's ugly and unfair. We didn't need to invade Iraq and now the can of worms is wide open, so we can either look for ways to solve these problems, to help these people, to do what we can...or we can sit around a whine about what a horrible country we are.

What the fuck is the matter with you? Why do you spend so much time reading articles and learning about the injustices in the country and beyond if you don't love this country? You wouldn't be able to whine about this shit in most countries. They'd hunt you down and kill you. So be fucking GRATEFUL you were born here where you have fucking rights. Worry about those rights being upheld, worry about the issues in this country, but don't you dare think this country isn't special and go on living here. You cannot say you want things to be better here, or that you want the US to be better to others and say in the same breath that we're just nothing special. Your horrible negative attitude and lack of love for this country is PART OF THE PROBLEM, not the fucking solution.



I never said this country wasn't special, so I don't know what that's all about, I said we're not special, people who happen to be born here aren't any more special than anyone else. We're not entitled to any more or less than anyone born anywhere else. Bush got us into Iraq, yet we continue to allow him to run the country and screw things up for the world, we're being complacent with this while people continue to die, including 2,600 of Hoser's pals so far, and I think that does make us a barbaric and horrible country worthy of my constant complaining. You can watch the news and cry and then turn the other cheek and deny any involvement by keeping your mouth shut, or you can use your right to free speech while you still have it and wake some people up. Loving the land one lives on and the government that controls it are 2 very different things.



toggletoggle post by My_Dying_Bride at Aug 26,2006 8:33am



toggletoggle post by Y_Ddraig_Goch  at Aug 26,2006 9:03am
Actually I just heard they are pushing a bill to get the info from congress about why we really went to war, rumor is that it even calls for possible impeachment based on the ground bush was cited for saying that if they couldn't get a good enough reason he would have american fighters painted like un planes and fly them low over the now fly zone, and if Iraq fired at them he would have a reason to start a war.



toggletoggle post by Hoser at Aug 26,2006 9:13am
I'm not a hard-core right winger Pam. That's what makes me smart. I'm a Libertarian!!



toggletoggle post by Y_Ddraig_Goch  at Aug 26,2006 9:14am
I'm a Librarian



toggletoggle post by Hoser at Aug 26,2006 9:16am
I like books a lot.



toggletoggle post by Troll at Aug 26,2006 9:18am
the_reverend said:
yeah.. it's so wonderfully judging the many for the sins of the few.
how's maine going for you whitey? I heard you and your buddies started some sort of organization or something.


these guys know how to party




toggletoggle post by Troll at Aug 26,2006 9:20am
These guys are sponsered by Tide with bleach alternative



toggletoggle post by Y_Ddraig_Goch  at Aug 26,2006 9:21am
I am an Irish Nationalist, yesterday alone I bought about five books on Irish Folklore and Faery tales, and anyone who has read Irish faery tales knows that they are badass and not the silly fluffy disnet type stuff.



toggletoggle post by CaptainCleanoff at Aug 26,2006 9:41am
Troll said:
These guys are sponsered by Tide with bleach alternative



HAHA!!



toggletoggle post by ShadowSD  at Aug 26,2006 9:55am
the_reverend said:
yeah.. it's so wonderfully judging the many for the sins of the few.
how's maine going for you whitey? I heard you and your buddies started some sort of organization or something.



Leader: "See, up there is one of those new fangled picture snatchers. On one hand, it immortalizes us in our purest endeavors. On the other, it is black. I know this is complicated, Buford, that's why I'm explaining it to you..."



toggletoggle post by ShadowSD  at Aug 26,2006 9:57am
Or...

Leader: "Them pictures it takes are coming out black AND white. We need to get rid of that anti-segregation, nigger lovin' contraption."



toggletoggle post by ShadowSD  at Aug 26,2006 10:04am
Look at some of the other guys standing there, this photo argues against good genes in the white race.



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Aug 26,2006 10:24am
Whats the difference between those boys in those good clean robes doing what they do and what those fuckin Israelis do? Not a damned thing,except that those boys are on our side. FUCK NAZI ISRAEL.



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Aug 26,2006 10:28am
ShadowSD said:
Look at some of the other guys standing there, this photo argues against good genes in the white race.


I'd rather be the most fucked up dude in that picture than a sleazy murderous fuckin supremicist JEW, yes?




toggletoggle post by ShadowSD  at Aug 26,2006 11:48am
Listen to me carefully. FUCK JEWISH SUPREMACISTS. FUCK WHITE SUPREMACISTS. FUCK ISLAMIC SUPREMACISTS. They are all different shades of the same gay.



toggletoggle post by CaptainCleanoff at Aug 26,2006 12:02pm
ShadowSD said:
Listen to me carefully. FUCK JEWISH SUPREMACISTS. FUCK WHITE SUPREMACISTS. FUCK ISLAMIC SUPREMACISTS. They are all different shades of the same gay.



Gay? you are racist.



toggletoggle post by Troll at Aug 26,2006 12:05pm
he's gaycist



toggletoggle post by CaptainCleanoff at Aug 26,2006 1:09pm
Troll said:
he's gaycist


Big time.






toggletoggle post by pam   at Aug 26,2006 1:34pm
HailTheLeaf said:
pam said:
HTL- I don't understand how you can think this country isn't special. Yes, we're fucked up. No, we're not perfect and we do some horrific shit. But we have the right to complain about it. We can have as many kids as we want, We women can go to school and wear what we please. We have no national religion (supposedly) and no one is going to stone you to death if they see your ankles. If our freedoms and the remarkable things we've accomplished in our very few years as a country mean so fucking little to you, get the fuck out.
This war kills me. I watch the news and want to cry. I think we really dropped the ball on a lot of things, but the reality of the situation is, we can't leave now. Bushie got us in way too deep. Do I mourn the kids and women and innocent civilians that are dying in heaps? YES. Does that make us a barbaric and horrible country worthy of your CONSTANT fucking complaining? NO. War sucks. It's ugly and unfair. We didn't need to invade Iraq and now the can of worms is wide open, so we can either look for ways to solve these problems, to help these people, to do what we can...or we can sit around a whine about what a horrible country we are.

What the fuck is the matter with you? Why do you spend so much time reading articles and learning about the injustices in the country and beyond if you don't love this country? You wouldn't be able to whine about this shit in most countries. They'd hunt you down and kill you. So be fucking GRATEFUL you were born here where you have fucking rights. Worry about those rights being upheld, worry about the issues in this country, but don't you dare think this country isn't special and go on living here. You cannot say you want things to be better here, or that you want the US to be better to others and say in the same breath that we're just nothing special. Your horrible negative attitude and lack of love for this country is PART OF THE PROBLEM, not the fucking solution.



I never said this country wasn't special, so I don't know what that's all about, I said we're not special, people who happen to be born here aren't any more special than anyone else. We're not entitled to any more or less than anyone born anywhere else. Bush got us into Iraq, yet we continue to allow him to run the country and screw things up for the world, we're being complacent with this while people continue to die, including 2,600 of Hoser's pals so far, and I think that does make us a barbaric and horrible country worthy of my constant complaining. You can watch the news and cry and then turn the other cheek and deny any involvement by keeping your mouth shut, or you can use your right to free speech while you still have it and wake some people up. Loving the land one lives on and the government that controls it are 2 very different things.


Oh I turn the other cheek? I am complacent? Really. I was unaware of that. I must have dreamed volunteering for the Kerry campaign and then The Coalition for Social Justice, Planned Parenthood, and the Coalition Against Poverty for the last year. Funny. Letters I've written, rallies I've attended, calls I've made...all nothing...I'm glad you let me know cause here I thought I was trying to make positive changes with my time instead of spitting alternet.org talking points all over a music message board.



toggletoggle post by CaptainCleanoff at Aug 26,2006 3:45pm
pam said:
HailTheLeaf said:
pam said:
HTL- I don't understand how you can think this country isn't special. Yes, we're fucked up. No, we're not perfect and we do some horrific shit. But we have the right to complain about it. We can have as many kids as we want, We women can go to school and wear what we please. We have no national religion (supposedly) and no one is going to stone you to death if they see your ankles. If our freedoms and the remarkable things we've accomplished in our very few years as a country mean so fucking little to you, get the fuck out.
This war kills me. I watch the news and want to cry. I think we really dropped the ball on a lot of things, but the reality of the situation is, we can't leave now. Bushie got us in way too deep. Do I mourn the kids and women and innocent civilians that are dying in heaps? YES. Does that make us a barbaric and horrible country worthy of your CONSTANT fucking complaining? NO. War sucks. It's ugly and unfair. We didn't need to invade Iraq and now the can of worms is wide open, so we can either look for ways to solve these problems, to help these people, to do what we can...or we can sit around a whine about what a horrible country we are.

What the fuck is the matter with you? Why do you spend so much time reading articles and learning about the injustices in the country and beyond if you don't love this country? You wouldn't be able to whine about this shit in most countries. They'd hunt you down and kill you. So be fucking GRATEFUL you were born here where you have fucking rights. Worry about those rights being upheld, worry about the issues in this country, but don't you dare think this country isn't special and go on living here. You cannot say you want things to be better here, or that you want the US to be better to others and say in the same breath that we're just nothing special. Your horrible negative attitude and lack of love for this country is PART OF THE PROBLEM, not the fucking solution.



I never said this country wasn't special, so I don't know what that's all about, I said we're not special, people who happen to be born here aren't any more special than anyone else. We're not entitled to any more or less than anyone born anywhere else. Bush got us into Iraq, yet we continue to allow him to run the country and screw things up for the world, we're being complacent with this while people continue to die, including 2,600 of Hoser's pals so far, and I think that does make us a barbaric and horrible country worthy of my constant complaining. You can watch the news and cry and then turn the other cheek and deny any involvement by keeping your mouth shut, or you can use your right to free speech while you still have it and wake some people up. Loving the land one lives on and the government that controls it are 2 very different things.


Oh I turn the other cheek? I am complacent? Really. I was unaware of that. I must have dreamed volunteering for the Kerry campaign and then The Coalition for Social Justice, Planned Parenthood, and the Coalition Against Poverty for the last year. Funny. Letters I've written, rallies I've attended, calls I've made...all nothing...I'm glad you let me know cause here I thought I was trying to make positive changes with my time instead of spitting alternet.org talking points all over a music message board.



heh, pwned again.



toggletoggle post by HailTheLeaf  at Aug 26,2006 5:28pm
pam said:
HailTheLeaf said:
pam said:
HTL- I don't understand how you can think this country isn't special. Yes, we're fucked up. No, we're not perfect and we do some horrific shit. But we have the right to complain about it. We can have as many kids as we want, We women can go to school and wear what we please. We have no national religion (supposedly) and no one is going to stone you to death if they see your ankles. If our freedoms and the remarkable things we've accomplished in our very few years as a country mean so fucking little to you, get the fuck out.
This war kills me. I watch the news and want to cry. I think we really dropped the ball on a lot of things, but the reality of the situation is, we can't leave now. Bushie got us in way too deep. Do I mourn the kids and women and innocent civilians that are dying in heaps? YES. Does that make us a barbaric and horrible country worthy of your CONSTANT fucking complaining? NO. War sucks. It's ugly and unfair. We didn't need to invade Iraq and now the can of worms is wide open, so we can either look for ways to solve these problems, to help these people, to do what we can...or we can sit around a whine about what a horrible country we are.

What the fuck is the matter with you? Why do you spend so much time reading articles and learning about the injustices in the country and beyond if you don't love this country? You wouldn't be able to whine about this shit in most countries. They'd hunt you down and kill you. So be fucking GRATEFUL you were born here where you have fucking rights. Worry about those rights being upheld, worry about the issues in this country, but don't you dare think this country isn't special and go on living here. You cannot say you want things to be better here, or that you want the US to be better to others and say in the same breath that we're just nothing special. Your horrible negative attitude and lack of love for this country is PART OF THE PROBLEM, not the fucking solution.



I never said this country wasn't special, so I don't know what that's all about, I said we're not special, people who happen to be born here aren't any more special than anyone else. We're not entitled to any more or less than anyone born anywhere else. Bush got us into Iraq, yet we continue to allow him to run the country and screw things up for the world, we're being complacent with this while people continue to die, including 2,600 of Hoser's pals so far, and I think that does make us a barbaric and horrible country worthy of my constant complaining. You can watch the news and cry and then turn the other cheek and deny any involvement by keeping your mouth shut, or you can use your right to free speech while you still have it and wake some people up. Loving the land one lives on and the government that controls it are 2 very different things.


Oh I turn the other cheek? I am complacent? Really. I was unaware of that. I must have dreamed volunteering for the Kerry campaign and then The Coalition for Social Justice, Planned Parenthood, and the Coalition Against Poverty for the last year. Funny. Letters I've written, rallies I've attended, calls I've made...all nothing...I'm glad you let me know cause here I thought I was trying to make positive changes with my time instead of spitting alternet.org talking points all over a music message board.


I'm glad, seriously, good for you, but I was unaware that I hate the land I live on and only attempt to start political discussion on message boards...oh apparently I'm also vegan and don't have a job, oh and according to the experts on the board who have never met me, I don't write any letters, make phone calls, sign petitions, attend rallies, volunteer, or donate either.



toggletoggle post by pam   at Aug 27,2006 3:28am
HailTheLeaf said:
pam said:
HailTheLeaf said:
pam said:
HTL- I don't understand how you can think this country isn't special. Yes, we're fucked up. No, we're not perfect and we do some horrific shit. But we have the right to complain about it. We can have as many kids as we want, We women can go to school and wear what we please. We have no national religion (supposedly) and no one is going to stone you to death if they see your ankles. If our freedoms and the remarkable things we've accomplished in our very few years as a country mean so fucking little to you, get the fuck out.
This war kills me. I watch the news and want to cry. I think we really dropped the ball on a lot of things, but the reality of the situation is, we can't leave now. Bushie got us in way too deep. Do I mourn the kids and women and innocent civilians that are dying in heaps? YES. Does that make us a barbaric and horrible country worthy of your CONSTANT fucking complaining? NO. War sucks. It's ugly and unfair. We didn't need to invade Iraq and now the can of worms is wide open, so we can either look for ways to solve these problems, to help these people, to do what we can...or we can sit around a whine about what a horrible country we are.

What the fuck is the matter with you? Why do you spend so much time reading articles and learning about the injustices in the country and beyond if you don't love this country? You wouldn't be able to whine about this shit in most countries. They'd hunt you down and kill you. So be fucking GRATEFUL you were born here where you have fucking rights. Worry about those rights being upheld, worry about the issues in this country, but don't you dare think this country isn't special and go on living here. You cannot say you want things to be better here, or that you want the US to be better to others and say in the same breath that we're just nothing special. Your horrible negative attitude and lack of love for this country is PART OF THE PROBLEM, not the fucking solution.



I never said this country wasn't special, so I don't know what that's all about, I said we're not special, people who happen to be born here aren't any more special than anyone else. We're not entitled to any more or less than anyone born anywhere else. Bush got us into Iraq, yet we continue to allow him to run the country and screw things up for the world, we're being complacent with this while people continue to die, including 2,600 of Hoser's pals so far, and I think that does make us a barbaric and horrible country worthy of my constant complaining. You can watch the news and cry and then turn the other cheek and deny any involvement by keeping your mouth shut, or you can use your right to free speech while you still have it and wake some people up. Loving the land one lives on and the government that controls it are 2 very different things.


Oh I turn the other cheek? I am complacent? Really. I was unaware of that. I must have dreamed volunteering for the Kerry campaign and then The Coalition for Social Justice, Planned Parenthood, and the Coalition Against Poverty for the last year. Funny. Letters I've written, rallies I've attended, calls I've made...all nothing...I'm glad you let me know cause here I thought I was trying to make positive changes with my time instead of spitting alternet.org talking points all over a music message board.


I'm glad, seriously, good for you, but I was unaware that I hate the land I live on and only attempt to start political discussion on message boards...oh apparently I'm also vegan and don't have a job, oh and according to the experts on the board who have never met me, I don't write any letters, make phone calls, sign petitions, attend rallies, volunteer, or donate either.


No but you're content to assume as much about other people. Get over yourself, you get what you give.



toggletoggle post by Man_of_the_Century at Aug 27,2006 9:43pm
pam said:
No but you're content to assume as much about other people. Get over yourself, you get what you give.





toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Aug 27,2006 10:12pm
this thread is still here?



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Aug 28,2006 12:28am
Fuck yeah, cause we hate arabs and jew bags.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Aug 28,2006 12:41am
this thread is worst than watching jackass censored.



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Aug 28,2006 8:01am
Almost like listening to bands that insist on hating Christians and destroying thier heritege, yes? Oh I'm sorry that shits just fine in overkill, right? Its a little too "kosher" for me, if you know what I mean...



toggletoggle post by Dankill at Aug 28,2006 6:30pm
Emeril knows how we roll.



toggletoggle post by PatMeebles at Aug 28,2006 7:44pm
I'm surprised about the quick pointing to the Christian extremes of 500+ years ago in order to try and hush up what us anti-islamonazis say about the plight of Muslims everywhere. Yes, we were just as bad... centuries ago. The difference between Christianity and Islam is that Christianity went through all the turmoil and came out a much more humanist religion, while Islam is STILL stuck in 8th Century barbarism in much of the world. So why don't you take the same amount of scorn to the religion that, even when offered modernity and peace, shrugged it off and decided to behead Christian school girls instead?

Oh yeah, bring up Milosovic. Yeah, there was a campaign in the last decade to wipe out Muslims from the region. Well, what happened? All the Christian groups and countries stood up to Milosovic and brought him down. Those bombings on abortion clinics that happen once every blue moon? Still condemned as evil by a majority of churches and Christian faiths. When was the last time you saw a no-holds-barred condemnation of Muslim attacks WITHOUT hearing at the end "but we must UNDERSTAND their anger, because it's really the Jews fault for defending themselves." Hell, we don't even have a problem calling these people what they are; Christian Fascists. The "Moderate Muslims" don't even want to admit that they have a serious problem with 150 millions members of their own faith. CAIR put out a press release that specifically scorned Bush for using the term "Islamic Fascists" because "they're not really Muslim. Well, just because you think someone's a poser doesn't mean they aren't what they say they are. What's the percentage of the Christian equivelant to Islamofascists? Are there really over 150 million Christians who support special taxes for infidels? Killing women for going to soccer matches? Circumsizing 8 year old girls with shards of glass and no anesthesia? Beheading men who don't have full beards (what is it with beheading, anyway)? Maybe you guys should, I don't know, actually COMPARE the extremes of two religions and then decide which is 1) actually worse and 2) poses more of a threat and 3) is more generally accepted by the rest of the demonination.



toggletoggle post by PatMeebles at Aug 28,2006 7:47pm edited Aug 28,2006 7:52pm
P.S. I declare a contest to see how many DIFFERENT examples the rest of the board can come up with of Christians bombing infidels and sinners and I'll bet all the tea in China that I can put up double that number when it comes to Muslims bombings Israel ALONE.

Edit: Also eligible are killings like the Chechan school massacre or the Yelwa massacre that have the same death toll/effect as a bomb



toggletoggle post by Y_Ddraig_Goch  at Aug 28,2006 8:18pm
How about this, Christians run the united states when there is supposed to be seperation of chruch and state, all our money is funneled to such christiand and jewish groups.

How about this, there has never been a non christian president, and even better, only two examples in history when there were presidenst of a different kind of christianity. Where are the non english, non german, non christian, non male presidents?

Why do so many things go censored on american movies and tv, but you hop over to mexico and the news broadcasters got size ddd jugs falling out of their shirts, go to japan and you see people being beheaded in little kid shows?


We are fooled to think we have as much freedom as we are told we do.

Judiaism, christianity, and Islam all suck.

down with the desert, up with the deep forests and fjords!



toggletoggle post by PatMeebles at Aug 28,2006 8:27pm
Y_Ddraig_Goch said:
How about this, Christians run the united states when there is supposed to be seperation of chruch and state, all our money is funneled to such christiand and jewish groups.

How about this, there has never been a non christian president, and even better, only two examples in history when there were presidenst of a different kind of christianity. Where are the non english, non german, non christian, non male presidents?

Why do so many things go censored on american movies and tv, but you hop over to mexico and the news broadcasters got size ddd jugs falling out of their shirts, go to japan and you see people being beheaded in little kid shows?


We are fooled to think we have as much freedom as we are told we do.

Judiaism, christianity, and Islam all suck.

down with the desert, up with the deep forests and fjords!


That was quite possibly the dumbest post I've ever read. It's called a representative democracy; just because you can't see tits and violence on PBS doesn't mean it isn't available and legal in the US. Hell, you don't even have to pay to see it.

Also, in Mexico their illegal immigrants are killed and tortued, while in Japan you can't spit gum on the street for fear of getting some serious legal ass fucking. Speaking of Japan, they restrict citizenship to those people they consider Japanese. There are multiple generations of immigrants who never get their citizenship, even when born there. Stop comparing the freedoms we have with the rest of the world; you will most likely lose or stalemate.

You think you're so tough badmouthing relgions in America, because you know that you'd never have to live with the fear of Christians slitting your throat for it. I dare you to say that Islam sucks to a Muslim and see what kind of reaction you'd get. Do you even think of Islam, or are you just saying that Islam sucks along with Christianity and Judaism because that way, you'll come off as "balanced?"



toggletoggle post by Y_Ddraig_Goch  at Aug 28,2006 8:49pm
Actually out of the three I like Islam the most, but only because of the three it is most tolerable (the koran anyways) I am not saying I support terror or Islamic Nations.

As well I have nothing against, Jews, Christians, or Islamist, just the institutes that run them and use their money to make war or convert people when it could be better spent feeding the hungry, constructing buildings, funding the arts, etc.

Of course I know we have the most freedom of all nations, barring possibly some of the more modern European nations, but we are slowly loosing all the freedoms we have. You can look at all the contents of the bill or rights and see where many times in history ,and more so in the present, where they are violated. I agree that some of my remarks were clearly just heated and passioned at the moment.

but if you look at your refrence to Japan's gum disposal laws, isn't that a good thing? I mean , I think it is Indonesia, but anyways some country in southeast asia is the cleanest of all nations in terms of litter and graffiti and other such things, how do they keep that up? they punish the people who violate it, they make them pick up trash while wearing signs that say "I am a litterbug, I hate (insert cities name)'s streets"


Sorry for my hothead and fast talking, traits o' the irish when they are bored.





toggletoggle post by infoterror  at Aug 28,2006 8:56pm
NO SHIT MORONS

EVERY ETHNIC-CULTURAL GROUP NEEDS ITS OWN SPACE
THIS INCLUDES JEWS AND MUSLIMS

SEND THE JEWS TO ISRAEL
SEND THE MUSLIMS TO ARABIA
AND MURDER THE FUCKING CHRISTIANS

HEIL HITLER
...NO, PROBABLY

HEIL NIETZSCHE?

WHY YES I DONT MIND IF I DO
EUGENICS NOW (x32)



toggletoggle post by PatMeebles at Aug 28,2006 9:11pm
Y_Ddraig_Goch said:
Actually out of the three I like Islam the most, but only because of the three it is most tolerable (the koran anyways) I am not saying I support terror or Islamic Nations.


How is it the most tolerable? If the religion isn't fucked up and it's just the institution, how can you give Islam itself a pass and say that it's more tolerable? Who was more tolerable by their own accounts, Mohammed or Jesus? Jesus only raised his hand once against a temple, not people. Mohammed fought wars and was a military leader.

Y_Ddraig_Goch said:
it could be better spent feeding the hungry, constructing buildings, funding the arts, etc.


All of those things Islam does... not.

Y_Ddraig_Goch said:
but if you look at your refrence to Japan's gum disposal laws, isn't that a good thing?


Good thing or not, we still have more freedom.



toggletoggle post by Y_Ddraig_Goch  at Aug 28,2006 9:25pm
I was speaking more tolerable to my knowledge in the realm of the holy books.

The Old testement is archaic and preaches all kinds of laws againts minorities, wizards, and certain social groups.

the Torah calls gentiles, beasts in human forms only meant to serve the jew.

and as far as I have read into the Koran I have yet to once find anything speaking down on something as evil and such.




As well I never said the institutions of Islam gives to the poor and such (well they do just like all the other religions, but just like all the other ones they brainwash the people they are helping) I am saying all three would better use the money they get on said things.


Of course Mohammed waged wars, he carried them out himself upon those he thought were wrong, he was a fool.

I can't defend any of the three more than the other

I guess of the three I just like Arabic culture more, the arts, the music, the architecture. Baghdad was once the capitol of the civilized world.


I say let the three have at each other and we pick off the remains.



toggletoggle post by infoterror  at Aug 28,2006 9:38pm
ISLAM PRESERVED THE GREEK KNOWLEDGE AFTER THE CROWD BURNT IT.
I HAVE NO USE FOR CHRIST OR MOSES.

I HAVE NO USE IN EUROPE/AMERICA FOR ISLAM.

BUT IN THE MIDDLE EAST? WELL, THEY DO THE BEST WITH IT.
AND THE JEWS HAVE NATALIE PORTMANN.




toggletoggle post by Y_Ddraig_Goch  at Aug 28,2006 9:40pm
Natale Portman is pretty damn hot for a flatchested jew



toggletoggle post by infoterror  at Aug 28,2006 9:59pm
I ONLY FIND JEWISH GIRLS HOT UP UNTIL THEY GET THEIR PERIODS.

THEN I CANNOT HAVE SEX WITH THEM FOR FEAR OF PRODUCING A HALFLING SPAWN.




toggletoggle post by anonymous at Aug 28,2006 10:10pm
I like mine well done if you know what I mean.



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