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returntothepit >> discuss >> The Official "Fuck Rox's in Oxford" Thread by sacreligion on Aug 21,2006 5:19pm
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toggletoggle post by sacreligion at Aug 21,2006 5:19pm
At the August 11 show they threatened to shut it down unless I payed out of my pocket. I agreed to pay the remainder of the sound guy/door guy's pay after all the money was collected at the door. They then tried screwing me out of almost another $200 after the fact. Luckily Bill Doomus, the promoter there at the time who unfortunately had to worka show at the Lucky Dog that same night, paid me back for what I had to pay since he thought it was fucked up and knew it wouldn't have happened if he was there.

After that, they got all of Bill Doomus' contacts for bands, etc. and proceeded to fire him the next day for no reason. He had put on shows there for 6+ months with about 75% of them being packed.

Everything that place has done that's business-related in the last few weeks has proved to everyone that's worked with them that they aren't worthy of support from any local band. If they contact you about a show, DO NOT PLAY! Boycott the fuck out of them so they close down.

We're scheduled to play there September 1st, and I'm sorry to say that we won't be playing simply for those reasons. It's a shame that all this had to go down, but fuck them.



toggletoggle post by rox sux sax at Aug 21,2006 6:21pm
I back that up. The guy at the door and the sound guy are COMPLETE ASSHOLES!


!!!BOYCOTT!!!



toggletoggle post by Anthony nli at Aug 21,2006 8:39pm
Given all this, I should probably cancel the Sept. 1 date. I dont want my band or others who I've asked to play and put in touch with Doomus to deal with shady people and I dont want the club to try to extort me the night of the show.

I will contact Goreality and Deconformity and see what they think. Unfortunately this has turned into a big fiasco, when all I wanted was a cool show with local death metal bands.



toggletoggle post by fishcakes at Aug 21,2006 10:42pm
we don't want to play there now either, we are off this shit bro. let's set up another show.....



toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Aug 21,2006 10:50pm
we have a show booked there next month through doomus. that sucks that they screwed him over.



toggletoggle post by Cecchini   at Aug 21,2006 11:14pm
thats pretty lame-0 man



toggletoggle post by Sacreligion at Aug 22,2006 12:58pm
dreadkill said:
we have a show booked there next month through doomus. that sucks that they screwed him over.


i wouldn't recommend it since he won't be there...he was the only one there who had a clue as to what he was doing.



toggletoggle post by sibz  at Aug 22,2006 2:39pm
yeah fuck that place



toggletoggle post by litacore   at Aug 22,2006 3:19pm
I just wonder why they think they're such the doberman's testicles. I've never een fucking heard of the venue until this show was announced. They sound really unprofessional.



toggletoggle post by Yeti at Aug 22,2006 3:30pm
its a shame because it was out in the boonies and its pretty much the only venue within like a 20 mile radius. things went well for a few months, and then they got greedy.



toggletoggle post by litacore   at Aug 22,2006 3:33pm
fuck 'em in the ear then



toggletoggle post by litacore   at Aug 22,2006 3:34pm
the other ear too



toggletoggle post by fishcakes at Aug 22,2006 3:39pm
we won't be playin here...



toggletoggle post by metal_church101  at Aug 23,2006 1:42pm
Thanks for looking out for us.



toggletoggle post by Sacreligion at Aug 23,2006 2:51pm
no problem dude

rox's = mass gayening



toggletoggle post by bump 4 knowledge at Aug 30,2006 12:30pm
hatred for rox's



toggletoggle post by BlackoutRick at Aug 30,2006 12:52pm
Yeah, Our show on the 8th is cancelled cuz they lost their liquor license. Amateurs.



toggletoggle post by ShadowSD  at Aug 30,2006 1:04pm
Some club they have with no bands willing to play there anymore and no alcohol to drink.



toggletoggle post by Josh_hates_you  at Aug 30,2006 1:09pm
weird that they lost the liquor license since this club has been there for over 20 years. it was manny's before it was rox's.

Don't be suprised that this place didn't make it as a metal club, it has been failing top 40 dance club as long as I can remember.



toggletoggle post by sacreligion at Aug 30,2006 6:07pm
lost their liquor license? ha...hahaha



toggletoggle post by hutch  at Aug 30,2006 8:49pm
deconformity has never played there and never will. that is bullshit they tried to fuck you like that man. we all back you guys up, we will boycott that place they will never have the pleasure of having all us local bands that work our asses off to make these shows good. Fuck them!!



toggletoggle post by midgetstealer at Aug 30,2006 10:30pm
We played a show there two weeks ago.. We got payed 17 dollars and they were serving alcohol. The place was gay the guy running was some washed up guido dickhead. reminded me of a joe pesci with hair.The only thing they got going for them is a hot ass MILF behind the bar.



toggletoggle post by Dankill at Aug 31,2006 12:47am
Anyone every had problems with Doomus?
I know a guy in the local music business who, when I told him about this, assumed it was Bill's fault because he is appearently a "scumbag".
I didn't know if he had a known rep, good or bad, or who he's worked with a lot.



toggletoggle post by sacreligion at Aug 31,2006 1:56am
some people might not like him, but i know for a fact he's not a "scumbag" and there's 100+ pepole from just around this area that will back me up on that



toggletoggle post by Yeti at Aug 31,2006 10:42am
yeah Doomus is no scumbag, he's done alot to help out, he was just fucked with no lube by Rox's.



toggletoggle post by ShadowSD  at Aug 31,2006 11:24am
You know what's really funny, not long after that show we all played there, Rox's sent us a friend request on myspace.



toggletoggle post by mortalis nli at Aug 31,2006 12:08pm
yeah, definitely a grade-A milf at the bar. not enough of a reason to play there again, though.



toggletoggle post by Yeti at Aug 31,2006 12:40pm
i bet she had roast beef tapestries though. she was cute but looked like she had more miles than I-90.



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Aug 31,2006 12:44pm
roast beeg tapestries.. ? haha how does one tell such things?



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Aug 31,2006 12:44pm
beef*



toggletoggle post by midgetstealer at Aug 31,2006 12:52pm
Shes probly like throwing a hot dog down a hallway, but thats not a problem when you are drinking a beer and shes serving you. When she gets naked and she has to go fishing for her underwear thats when you gotta worry.



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Aug 31,2006 12:53pm
eww



toggletoggle post by ShadowSD  at Aug 31,2006 2:53pm
Yeti said:
i bet she had roast beef tapestries though. she was cute but looked like she had more miles than I-90.


And probably a more reasonably priced toll booth.



toggletoggle post by 77-7 at Sep 3,2006 1:05pm
hilarious BUMP



toggletoggle post by fish tacos at Sep 3,2006 10:29pm
bump for a place that will forever suck rectum



toggletoggle post by Josh_hates_you  at Sep 4,2006 1:46am
better late than never. reposted from baystate rock.


Just so that both sides are heard....



Rox's The Rock House's Response.....
Body: We would like to take the time to respond to several messages left on myspace, concerning Rox's The Rock House, in Oxford.

The purpose for terminating Will Doomus Entertainment from booking shows at our club was a business decision only. It was nothing personal, as some are making it. Many of the the bands had come to us and expressed their concern, over the way Bill Dumas was treating them, claiming that he was acting that he was the bands manager, and he was not paying the bands, and treating the bands unprofessionally.

We understand that whatever the agreement that Bill worked out with each band, is your own personal agreement, such as... you had to bring a certain amount of people to get paid. Well thats fine and thats your perogative, but if thats the way you feel then you should not have complained to us about him. We thank Bill for being a part of the success at Rox's, but we did the booking on our own at Mulligans in Worcester, and we have no problem doing it again here at Rox's. We decided to give him an opportunity to assist us because we have worked with him before.

We were told of some SHADY things that Bill was doing with several bands, in cheating them out of hard earned payments. Taking your concern is our number one priority. We have dealt with it, and decided not to hire from outside, for booking purposes.

Bands state that we are taking 50% of the bands money at the door. A bar charges a cover charge for many reasons... such as paying off staff, sound, and the entertaiment. Entertaiment, being the bands, in this case we decided that the bands would get 50% off of each head they brought in, releasing the pressure that they had to bring over a certain amount of heads to get paid. To be upset about getting paid is fine, but what about the bands that travel God only knows how many miles, and can only bring a couple of people willing to travel 50 plus miles to see their favorite band? We feel they should get something, just like the bands that bring 5 ~ 10 or even 100 heads. Every band should get something and thats why we deciced to do HALF OF THE COVER, that way, costs are paid, bands are paid regardless, and your walking out with something instead of nothing.

It makes us wonder why Bill had to make such a big stink about being let go, we all have been let go from jobs before, but we never made it our personal mission to bash them and put their character in question! We never once said anything bad about Bill, once again we like him, but we had to respond to the overwhelming complaints from the bands regarding Bill. Its as simple as that, and if the bands feel they are being cheated by getting half the door, then we can go back to Bill Dumas's tactics by only paying the bands that draw over a certain amount of heads, at still 50% of the cover?

Lets think hard and long about it guys and girls!!! If you want to cancel out on shows at Rox's thats fine, we will fill the slots with bands that don't mind being paid regardless on how many heads they bring. We just brought back a band called Hollow Image that Bill did not want playing at Rox's because they cancelled a show with him, so what if they did, it was not done to harm the night; it was done because something came up. We all have things that come up, but should bands be punished for taking control over something personal in their own individual lives? HELL NO, so their back, and their back to stay. And this is the kind of treatment that the bands do not need.

Forget about the childish game playing, and if you want to play at Rox's then that great, if not thats fine too. Its your call.

Rox's will not respond to anymore childish messages left on our new site. We have bands to work with, and your ALL more then welcome to come here and play and have a good time, because thats what its all about.

Thank you to all the bands who still support us and understand the profesional decision we had to make.

We look forward to seeing you,

The Staff at Rox's



toggletoggle post by sacreligion at Sep 4,2006 4:35am
they didn't mention stealing all his contacts right before they fired him, or totally fucking me over on august 11



toggletoggle post by Josh_hates_you  at Sep 4,2006 11:04am
did any band that ever played there ever sign any contract to play there? doubtful. so how could they steal said contracts?

as far as I can tell the incident with you guys if one that happened during the transition of letting go Dumas. maybe they had their head up their ass at that point before they came up with the "pay bands no matter what the turnout is rather than making them draw x number of kids" policy.

I' read a well laid out professional response from rox's. I read a bunch of gay internet mud slinging via myspace and message boards to back up this doomas douche bag.

Bands owe it to themselves to give the venue a chance under the new policy and see if it is actually as bad as these message boards make it out to be.

There are not alot of clubs for metal bands to play around here. So why ban yourselves from playing a club that fired their sheisty booking agent?



toggletoggle post by cough cough keef at Sep 4,2006 11:10am
did you read any of this thread? ontop of everything, the staff that work the are complete fucking ASSSSSSSSS HOOOOOOOOOLES

have fun with that sound guy ;)



toggletoggle post by Josh_hates_you  at Sep 4,2006 11:19am
leo the sound guy is a douche. he always has been. i never said he was cool. and his sound system is overkill for that little venue.

they shoud totaly do away with leo and gorilla sound and just get a PA to handle vox and let the bands just play out of their equipment. it would save on overheard cost by not paying that douche bag.

hell he used to send me threatening messages on baystate rock all the time cause i made fun of him so much.

most club owners are assholes. usually cause they need to pay bills or they dont have a club anymore. almost eveyone here has bitched about almost every owner of every venue. why does this suprise you? they have always been nice to me and i have only heard of 3 bands ever having a problem there. how many bands have had issues with mark's and the ultra negro security? and yet no boycott?


and yes i read the entire thread and the thread on baystate rock and all the myspace crap. It dont add up it bill's favor.





oops. i just noticed mike type contacts...not contracts. my fault.

either way stealing contacts is not hard.......just log onto myspace.



toggletoggle post by Yeti at Sep 4,2006 6:58pm
i stand by the statment of "fuck rox's" because of what they did that night. regardless of the situation or circumstances, to dump that kind of a "responsibility" on us at the last minute, pretty much putting us in a situation where we had no choice, is fucked up. they tried to fuck us over, plain and simple, and it had nothing to do with Doomas.



toggletoggle post by You still know who this is, you midget at Sep 6,2006 12:48pm
^^bump



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