Bands on The Bill so Far:
Alice in Chains
Buckcherry
Ra
Candy Striper Death Orgy
Change of System
Cherry S/T
Pendulum Theory
Hexerei
Broken Mindz

just what i deducted from other people

Candy Striper Death Orgy is selling their tickets for $37.50
dunno about the rest of the guys
but you know what to do, loco happens every year...

I sort of want to shoot this cause it's out doors right?

it's like 95% bands I hate, but I would like to shoot more outdoors shows.

yes, that is my plan. not enough outdoor shows these days :( i am wondering who else is going to pick this up...

A Breed Apart is playing too

I just want to be the first to post this show is gay.

the show is coming together a bit strangely...

i would like to shoot this outdoor show too, but not with a camera

i went once and saw primus, when it was at greenhill park in worcester, but i got free tickets so its alright.

gay

I only went to the one that Faith No More played.

We're working on more "METAL" bands to be on this so sit tight......... Of course, NUCLEAR ASSAULT might be doing it. I'm trying to push for TYPE-O-NEGATIVE, MELIAH RAGE and a few others.........

i was at the Primus show too. i miss green hill park. i hear they are/have put a school there

i can only imagine the things the found in the dirt.

yeah def not a fan of this nu metal fest

pay to play extreme right here,holy fuck, the tix they have to sell is ridiculous

CANDY STRIPER DEATH ORGY said:

in 99 Type O was supposed to play. but didnt. if they play this year i think my head will explode. that or Carnivore, since they are doing some stuff around then anyways.

PAY..........TO..............PLAY..............pay to play........$ 2 play..............PaY to PlAy........pAy....TO pLaY...........Pay to Play................pAY to pLAY.......

Pay to play is gay....my ego doesn't need to be fed so much so that I'd pay one fucking dime to put my band on a stage in front of a bunch of shitbirds that listen to WAAF.

CANDY STRIPER DEATH ORGY said:

Damnit man, put together a huge local thrash fest with NUCLEAR ASSAULT and MELIAH RAGE!

Yeah Locobazooka is the worst pay to play I've ever seen in my natural born life. Tickets are what? Over 30 dollars and each band needs to sell like 500+ tickets I heard if I'm not mistaken. So basically you need to hand them anywhere from $15,000 and up so if that's the case then I'm all set.

Did anyone go last year?

mcmahon said:

Just the suckers in bands willing to shell out enough to buy a brand new car so they'd have 15 minutes on stage on borrowed or shared equipment while some manic-panic-pink-haired-prepubescent-fat girl-in-her-Hot-Topic-outfit/uniform screams but doesn't even know or care who the fuck your band is and will never take the initiative to find out after the show unless you get played on 'AAF. Don't EVER pay someone to play a gig; keep your fucking rock star bullshit dream in check and don't give the sleaze ass promoters the idea that they can charge bands for floortime & make life harder for those of us who play only because we love to make music and could give a rat's ass about the mallmetal fucktards.

..oh, and Emergenza, Nemo and all those other ridiculous events should fucking cease to exist as well...I'm not sure whether to be angry at the bands that support this shit, or feel sorry for 'em that they got suckered.

I support it to an extent. Maybe sell a few tickets for a few bucks to get on some really decent shows isn't bad but these places/people like The Bomb Shelter, Emergenza, Nemo, Locobazooka, having to sell a shit load of tickets and such is fucking rediculous.

KeithMutiny said:

I was there that year also...primus was nasty...I bought my first tab of acid there

infant_skin_suitcase said:


Primus is only good because of the Possessed connection...otherwise they're granola funkmasters.

Lalonde gives them metal cred, and Claypool can obviously work his way around a bass quite nicely. I can see the talent and the appeal, but forgive me for thinking they're a bit too on the "silly" side with their whole goofiness factor. Don't hate 'em, don't love 'em either. I hate the granola bars who go to see 'em though.

heeeeeeeeeeeeeey i love granola bars, and what type of acid are you on buddy if you're able to see granola going to shows

Primus is comprised entirely of granola bars.

i will eat primus

I will take Primus on a camping trip and eat them.

whiskey_weed_and_women said:

I'm specifically speaking of those who wear the birkenstock shod-foot; the dinkless guardians of the patchouli patch; the minions of the VW driving Phish fuckers; trust fund hippie motherfuckers who are THE personification of all that is granola...hopefully you have a strong digestive system to be able to stomach that shit if you eat it.

camping trip, wait will there be drugs involved

Hi, I don't believe we've met. My name is Drug Addict.

anonymous said:

i just enjoy the granola

i'm going so i can see if broken mindz is as awesome live as their band name would suggest.

hahahhahaha

HA ha ha ha... Cherry S/T

This thread is sheer brilliance.

well, you know how it is. loco has been going on for a long time etc, and the same for these others fests. as long as there are bands willing to pick up the bill, these things aren't going away.

and that was hilarious dreadkill

i think it will be a good show all the same, and who knows what other bands that will pick up the bill, its still early for judgement. ive been to loco three or four times and enjoyed it. it has gotten a bit pricey, but what hasnt? ugh.

anonymous said:

anonymous owes me a new computer chair. i just peed. >:-D

Bands As of right now...

Black Stone Cherry
The Neighborhoods
Mardo
Down At Dawn
Edge City Outlaws
12 Step Program
Escape To Everything
Shadows Of Light
Short Fuse
Y69
Splitsense
Seis Pistos
Broken Mindz
My Alibi
The Out-Siders
Better Left Unsaid
Shavahawk
Crooked
M-16
Hexeri
Leaving Eden
Thout
Kreagen
Shattersphere
Candy Striper Death Orgy
A Breed Apart
Change Of System
Pendulum Theory
Lucid Sky
Ionia
25Affair
Crazy Jane
Eulogy XL
Jaded
Purenform
Cherry S/T

*as taken from http://www.locobazooka.com

who?

everpessimistnow said:

gayest show ever !

yea but alice in chains....

Josh_hates_you said:

SACAPAPADOO said:

isnt layne stanley dead, yeah so its just a cover band.

whiskey_weed_and_women said:
thats how i felt about it, ehhhh

yea but layne was just a front man,he wasnt the guitarist writing all the music.granted he was the greatest heroin addict to have ever lived but you know what fuck it alice in chains is one of my top 10 bands and going to see them might be better than banging your mom

http://www.myspace.com/purenform
http://www.myspace.com/shattersphere

:gag:

:chortle:

:choke:

lame, if meliah rage play i'll go.

i don't know why csdo just doesn't put on a huge fucking thrash show.

like them meliah rage, wargasm, nuclear assault, toxic holocaust and acouple of the more local thrash bands.

It's like the doors withought Jim Morrison. Who gives a shit?

SACAPAPADOO said:

ok, no wrong ........OVER THE LINE !!!!!!!!!!

Layne wrote some great songs for them, but him writing the music doesnt matter if you take away his voice from all those songs AIC wouldnt be AIC. they dont play a style of music you can just throw any singer up there and say hey sing these lyrics. Layne had a motherfuckin soul bitch, more then i can say about me while im banging your mom.

that's a lot of bands, anyone know how many there were per day (approx) at NEHMF?

I just listened to Purenform on myspace. How can a band have such good influences and call themselves heavy metal but yet play the most boring cock rock I've ever heard?

wicked wisdom are so metal....

wheres the slayer and harderfaster stage?

eddie said:

I suggested this in another thread. Did not hear back from CSDO.

whiskey_weed_and_women said:

I agree, because I think AiC reached the point where Layne became synonymous with the band. It's just one of those cases. Often, a band can get past this. In the case of a Layne, Halford, Dickinson, or other iconic rock/metal legend, I can't get past it.

well, i will never be able to see AIC as it was intended, so i will at least see them this way. what can ya do?

Save your money and see a band that's relevant.

everpessimistnow said:

You can go spend the $ to see their current incarnation.

I got to see Alice in Chains a few times way back when (Facelift era, etc).

But, hey, I never got to see Led Zeppelin, Chubby Checker, or Charlie Parker either....it's something I live with.

i want to see CSDO too, i love those guys, so ill go and hopefully have a good time at least. i dont even know 80% of these other bands.

You don't WANT to know 80% of these other bands

I'm kind of surprised my band hasn't played with CSDO yet.

DrinkHardThrashHard said:
muhahahahaha! i have this feeling that you are right, i messaged eric about setting up a show in the future, i know hes been busy, he just got back from a racing event. but i would be game for a show like that >:-D

McMahon said:


there are around 8-10 stages at this event like warped tour

DrinkHardThrashHard said:

lame

Craptacular.

Hey everybody......

Give me some time. I'm trying to put on a "THRASHFEST" Me and Tony from Meliah Rage talked about this last night. This is why I'm doing this LOCOBAZOOKA event...... I want to get a shitload of METALHEADS out to this to show. So, we can show the people running this event that everybody wants to see real METAL!! I should have Meliah Rage and Nuclear Assault on this show soon....... If everybody comes out and shows support........ I'm sure that New England Concerts and 3D Entertainment will help put on a THRASHFEST. Plus, I think it's a great idea for bands (all of the ones on this board) to bring promo to give out. This is a great way to get your band noticed to over 20 thousand people!! Don't forget, their will be people from magazines, record labels, radio stations, clubs, etc., etc.

So, think about going......... I know that most of you (including me) don't care for 80% of the bands.

If you want to go contact me (Eric Paone) at : CSDOband@aol.com. I've got tickets a lot cheaper than everybody else. We're not looking to make a profit on the tickets. We just want to get everybody there!!

well said eric :-D

anonymous said:

The fact that you used this word makes you gayer than anything else, ever. the mere pronunciation of this term actually imitates the sound of a closet door opening and you stepping out of it.

everpessimistnow said:

I bet you massaged him too.

not recently. good call on the dinkless.

davefromthegrave said:

Um, that was me, posting anonymously because of being on the 'ol work computer...and I can assure you I'm not at all of the homosexual persuasion, although "dinkless" is reserved in my lexicon for such choicely ridiculous moments as listed above. If you've got further commentary about my preference based on the use of a silly word, I'm certain that we could arrange to meet so that I might prove to you in person my overwhelmingly hetero nature...

...so fuck off, and please do excuse my use of an admittedlysophomoric term! Yeeesh....

sophomoric is today's word of the day.

MELIAH RAGE has been added to LOCOBAZOOKA!! So, that now makes two hard hitting power thrash bands I hope to have NUCLEAR ASSAULT on it soon...........

So, we'll be sharing a merch tent with Meliah also....... Keep your eye out for the sexy dirty girl that we'll have hanging around outside the tent passing out flyers

CANDY STRIPER DEATH ORGY said:

ass now i have to pay too much money to go

eh, if I could get free tix I'd go, but that's not happening, since I refuse to listen to WAAF and their 12 song rotation long enough to hear Mistress Carrie bitch and moan and then give tickets away...

I would like to see Meliah Rage, and CSDO, love 'em or hate 'em you can't deny that they put on a good show and get the crowd moving.

Idk if Im gonna go to this show.AIC arnt the same band without Layne Staley.Plus I dont like Meliah Rage.

if you go to this you≠metal

this might be worthy of supporting if it didn't rape local bands/had more than 1 or 2 good bands playing

CANDY STRIPER DEATH ORGY said:


If u have this THRASHFEST,u gotta try and get Testament on the bill.They havnt played a show in New England since 1996.

CANDY STRIPER DEATH ORGY said:


Idc for the new Meliah Rage singer.He dont fit the band in my opinion.Bring back Big Mike!!!!

Jugulator said:

wrong, I saw them in Waterbury CT on the 'The Gathering' tour, which is still one of the best shows I've ever been to

2000 - 5/05 WATERBURY, CT - CITY LIMITS was the show

I've also seen Testament at both Pearl Street (with Shadows Fall) and Middle East downstairs (w/SYL), both dates were after they released Demonic in 1997.

So yeah, they've been here multiple times since 1996, right?

So I was wrong.Its still been way to long since they played a show in Mass.Heres some others that avoid my home state:

Divine Empire
Deicide
Bolt Thrower
Sodom
Venom

Deicide isn't allowed in MA due to Glen's alleged statutory rape charges (I'm not sure how true that rumor is, but it seems that way since they haven't been back since it supposedly happened)

I couldn't care less about Deicide, but goddamnit it I need my Bolt Thrower, and goddamnit I need to play with them.

I emailed the webmaster of Bolt Thrower's site recently asking if they plan on touring over here.And he said that they need to get on a tour with more popular,american bands.He also mentioned that the last time Bolt Thrower toured here it was an organizational disaster.I take it that means they lost money.That blows!!!

YO GUYZ, I'M THROWIN TOGETHER A WIKKED SIC NU-METAL BAND ANYONE WANT TO DONATE THE CASH MONEY TO GET US ON LOCOBAZOOKA?

C'MON, THIS SHOW NEEDS FUCKIN DOWNSLIPSHUVEL MUDD 59

This shows a waste of time. Even if Slayer was playing I still wouldn't go. I'm not gonna support Gay-AF and there trendy cock rock bullshit.

NeverSayNever have been asked to play and are considering options availible.

mastermindz playing?

everpessimistnow said:



a bunch of bands no one has ever heard of, and will never hear of again.

p.s. if i took pictures, id rather take pictures a gay orgy involving farm animals than this

P.s. THAT GUY FROM ALICE IN CHAINS IS FUCKING DEAD,SO WHO CARES, ITS LIKE IF NIRVANA CAME BACK WITH NO KURT COBAIN

the_reverend said:

that would totally ownzor

i agree, not a 'core show without mastermindz man

mcmahon said:
id love to see you guys on it, but you know this. it just sucks how much $$$$ it is. its a steep one man.

bolt thrower is comming to boston later this year.
you are the biggest fag in the world if you go to this queerfest. i don't care who you get to play, fests suck anyway and this is the worst of the worst

Georgoroth said:



How do u know that Bolt Thrower are coming to Boston??

More people talking shit about something that could benefit them.

i agree, it could help a lot of people, but this one is heavy man. i can understand selling 50 tickets to play with Suffocation, but this is like a 200 minimum, and the base price is $37.50. not many good bands can afford that if they arent able to sell all the tickets. it closes the event to really good bands that arent able to take the risk.

anonymous said:

Mistress Cary's posting anonymously on the RTTP board! How the fuck does paying to play benefit anyone other than the greedy promoter(s)??? You're not "helping" me unless your putting some $ in MY pockets or giving me something more than 15 minutes on stage on someone else's gear in front of a herd of sheople. God damn, how hard is it to figure this one out!?!?

Last year some chick contacted us to play locobazooka; she knew our album titles and songs, and went on about how everyone involved in the event would LOVE to see us on the bill, etc. We thought she was sincere and although we were skeptical due to the nature of the event, we looked further into it....ends up she was just soliciting us like all the rest, wanted "X" amount of money for tickets upfront, yada, yada ,yada. Needless to say we told her to piss off. She was nothing more than a salesperson, one who did just a bit of homework before contacting us, thinking she'd woo us by knowing so much about the band. Fucking hooker.

This "Fest" and I use the term loosely, Should be wiped off the face of the planet

heh, you all have valid points, and its a shame that people are trying to trick you. but thats a fact of life in general, and in music, its even more prevalent. these things exist because bands pick up the bills man. and i think the point is that you have to bring a small army of fans (or friends or family members) with you that will pass out flyers blah blah. just playing the show isnt enough, but it doesnt differ from other shows in that respect. you cant just go to a dive bar, play a gig for a $40.00 bar tab and expect that everyone in the place is going to remember you or care to, you have to work the crowd and give them a reason to like you, good music isnt enough. this event is really expensive, but if you attack it you might get a good number of fans out of it. and i agree the set times bite, and the shared gear isnt good either, but i have seen the same things happen at regular local shows, so i guess you just have to adapt and be innovative. it sucks, but its reality.

haha.

from the site it looks like Burn in Silence is a headliner.

Its cool that CSDO are on the bill this year.But Im not paying $40 to see them.I'll be seeing them with Godless Rising July 14th in Oxford

Jugulator said:
that looks like a good show. i think i am going to that too.

everpessimistnow said:

Are you trying to convince US, or yourself??? I respectfully disagree that you can't carve out your niche by playing dive bars and never doing these pay to play fests...I can think of many, many bands that have great followings who'd never play a chump fest like locobazooka, or any such nonsense. And great music IS enough; people will eventually take notice of you if you just keep doing your thing, and it's good. Lastly, in reference to your "get a good number of fans out of it" point, who the fuck wants locobazookians as "fans" in the first place??? I'd rather play to an O'Brien's full of fuckers with integrity than some soccer stadium full of retards. Yeesh...but good luck, may your ozzfest dreams come true!

i dont care who plays as long as the sound is decent and doesn't make me feel disoriented to the point where I can't tell if they are playing or doing a soundcheck.

who hasn't been apart of the 'stadium of retards' at one time or another? To me, bands who have their shit together and play in basements and dark bars have a responsibility to show stadium fans they can compete with stadium bands. Stadium fan sees non-stadium band and later supports more basement and dark bar shows. That's an advantage to playing large stadium shows. It's a lot of work to sell tickets, not to mention ponying up the cash to get started. Playing the show will probably the easiest part of the experience.

mcmahon said:

anonymous said:

you definitely can carve out a 'niche' playing local bars and clubs, but everyone on this board has been to a show where fucken awesome bands played to a crowd of 3 people. why? because normal everyday joe 'stadium fans' don't even know that there is a good local scene. they haven't heard your music, and they don't care to because they don't know who the fuck you are. and i agree that there are some great locals that have awesome followings, but they didn't get them just by playing shows, they talked to people, made new friends, and promoted their ideas. they made sure everyone knew who they were, and they played a good show. if good music was enough, there wouldn't be these 'fests', bands wouldn't need myspace or websites, they wouldn't have mailing lists, and they wouldn't need flyers. people would just come out to shows by word of mouth alone. and a 'locobazookian' is just a person who hasnt been to O'Breins yet, heh.

...I need Rich Horror to chime in right about now with a synopsis of this, worded as only Rich Horror can word it...

Uh, I didn't need to go to gay fucking festivals full of gay fucking bands to find out about good underground bands.
If people don't care enough to find shit out for themselves then they deserve the shitty music they're going to get stuck listening to. Fuck them and I don't give a shit if they ever hear or see my band. If I was in this to be popular and make money my band would sound gay just like every band on this gayass locobazooka jewish piece of shit festival.

Josh_Martin said:

..And Josh, when I introduced myself at the Abhorred show and said I loved your RTTP posts, THIS is why!!! HAHAHAHA! I couldn't agree more with what you've said, and it's what I've been saying throughout this post. Bravo.

Josh_Martin said:

hahaha, i didnt either, but i dont go to local shows that have 20,000 people at them, so something has gone amiss. i have been to a ton of local shows that kicked the ass of stadium shows, but thats the way it goes i guess. and as for money, i didnt think it was about that, its a tragedy that its become that way, but welcome to capitialism, heh. either way, im going to see Candy Striper Death Orgy and now Meliah Rage whom i have never seen. i am sure it will be a good time, and as for the other bands on this, ehh. ive never even heard of most of them, so who knows, maybe ill be surprised.

hahaha oh shit ra.

DreamingInExile said:

That show was fucking great. That was the place co-owned by Jamie Jasta right? I used to live about a mile and a half from there.

The New Lineup---

Travis Meeks - Days Of The New
Socialburn
Black Stone Cherry
The Neighborhoods
Mardo
Down At Dawn
Edge City Outlaws
12 Step Program
Escape To Everything
Shadows Of Light
Short Fuse
Y69
Splitsense
Seis Pistos
Broken Mindz
My Alibi
The Out-Siders
Better Left Unsaid
Shavahawk
Crooked
M-16
Hexerei
Leaving Eden
Thout
Kreagen
Shattersphere
Candy Striper Death Orgy
A Breed Apart
Change Of System
Pendulum Theory
Lucid Sky
Ionia
25Affair
Crazy Jane
Eulogy XL
Jaded
Purenform
Cherry S/T
Skulltoboggan
Meliah Rage

The only bands Ive heard of on that list are CSDO and Meliah Rage.Are the others even Metal bands?

everpessimistnow said:


Have fun sitting through the other 40 bands that you dont care about

I wonder how the Godless Rising/CSDO show in Oxford will be affected turn out wise since its the same night as the SOTU at Great Woods

Yer just pissed off cause your a disaffected shit who only likes music that would NEVER be selected to play for waaf shit birds. Stay in yer basment and jam out to Meligha rage and judge the world on what very little you know. Even Slayer pays for the civic centers it plays at. Money is recouped through merch...ya know that shirt your probably wearing right now! Its a Buisness and just cause you dont have the balls to put money were yer mouth is dont fuckin rag on those bands who would rather spend money to promote and forgoe things like a new car or another trendy tough guy tatto! well I must be getting back to the WAAF web site as I am missed buy the other Cock Rockers, as you will never be

whisky said:

Fuck you. You're an ass pirate, you play a 7 string guitar, you can't spell worth a damn, and you have the grammar of a 4th grader. So go put your money to better use than to pay-to-play-gayfest and take a remedial english class instead. You'll go much further in life by doing that than by your pursuit of the nu-metal grail. Faggot.

whisky said:




Don't you get what this show is REALLY about?! If there was something good that comes out of it for bands shitloads more would jump on it, but the truth is 99% of the time your gonan show up, play, go home being no bigger than you were the night before.

Who does this show benefit?!

THE PROMOTER!

You agree to a contract with them where you sell X amount of dollars, that X amount covers nearly all the costs of the promoters typically, so if nobody shows up they still get their cash! Thats why they do it, you could sit there and play to a big empty field with just the other bands watching and it wouldn't matter because the promoter got his money to pay for the bands, security, venue etc... The only difference is he took it out of your ass instead of you pissing hours of your life away selling overpriced tickets to whoever will buy them. Most of these fests have agreements with bands where if you don't cough up the cash they can take you to court to get the rest of it... it's blatant assrape.

The worst about this show is how the promoters act under the guise that they are trying to help the local bands when in fact they are doing SHIT for them. They are using the local acts as a safety net to cover their ass if the show goes for broke.

So before you knock people on this board for putting down this pay to play bullshit show, look at yourself first and realise that what your doing is just supporting a bullshit policy that is structured to more cripple local bands than help them.

I just heard it costs $8,000.00 to get on this show and you need to sell 100 tickets but I could be wrong.

the shittiest part of this show is big shovel of BULLSHIT the promoters feed you saying how much its gonna help your band, it's gonna do shit because most people who listen to WAAF are meatheads... They want to show up and see their new favorite nu metal band that WAAF constantly plays and thats it.

If promoters REALLY want to help local bands heres what you can do:

1. When headliners come through and need local openers get bands that actually FIT WITH THE HEADLINER. If a death metal band comes through why are a chunk of their local openers metalcore or nu metal bands?! Oh yea cause the promoter just gives a shit about who agrees to sell tickets first, not for putting on the best show possible.

2. Do not FORCE bands to sell tickets to play your show, thats fuckin rubbish. Keep the money at the door if you want and give bands tix to sell for an OPTIONAL profit, thats pretty fair I would say. A majority of bands around here know how to spread the word and get the show out to people... Plus what exactly is the job of a promoter?! Oh yea, to promote.

3. Give new bands the chance. I know every show needs bands that can draw, but every band has to start from scratch at some point. You want to prove your worth to helping local bands, throw a new band on the middle of a show so people can actually hear them.

4. Shut down this loco-bullshit show.

Cecchini said:

Definately, giving a band an option to sell tickets is a good idea and I competely agree on having bands that fit the actual bills. Mark's Show Place seems like they'll throw anyone on with any national that play there. Giving unknown bands a chance by putting them on bigger shows will really help them get their name out and more promoters should really start doing that. Promoters are getting so lazy these days by booking the shows, having the bands advertise them, and that's all they really do now it seems with the exception of a few.

whisky said:

Trust me, if you were really wanted at this festival, or successful, you would not be paying thousands of dollars to be on a completely miscast bill.

Regardless of their style of music, the majority of the rock bands on this bill will not achieve mainstream success. You can tell by simply listening to the lack of quality in their songwriting (check out any of their homepages), which is not even on par with the latest stuff you'd hear on the WAAF rotation, much of which is already gayer than a male Nightwish fan.

People are going to go to this for Alice in Chains or another major label act, and maybe a few brave metalheads for CSDO and Meliah Rage. They do not care right now about 80% of the bill, and they will not care once they walk out of there either.

Seriously there's only like 2 band I'd want to see on that bill. Those being Alice In Chains and Jaded. We played with Jaded this weekend and they were an all girl old school metal band. Kind of reminded me of L7 with a more metal/punk flair to them. The chic guitarist was fucking insane, she was doing sweeps, tapping, and her playing was so smooth. At one point she stood up on the bar and started playing the solo for Van Halen's "Eruption". Pretty nuts. Plus they were all hot as hell.

L7 rules.

I will have to listen to Jaded. I have heard the name.

Loco was a good idea gone horribly wrong. i miss when it was at green hill park, and you could see all kinds of new bands in a semi-intimate setting. its sad that its mostly a money-making event now, but thats how most of these things turn out. as for Mark's Rock Club, i think there are just too many cooks in the kitchen. for both local shows and stadium shows, the wires have been crossed. bands are in a position where they not only have to promote shows, but they have to have a good business sense, and that isnt a good position. in the end, it takes away from the quality of the show, which in turn reduces the amount of people that want to go to a local show. id rather see bands like NSN writting new stuff or getting recording time than having to sell tickets. i think loco has some decent qualities, but only if good bands take these bills, or plan their own, but again, that forces them into the logistics, like getting sound permits, and advertising, and things that bands may not even have any experience with. its pretty much a catch 22. this year, loco is costing an average of $9,000 with an average number of tickets @ 200 for each local band. part of the heightened cost is due to the venue, but its still an assrape, because one ticket sold at $37.50 through a band is more than enough to pay one staff member for 1 hour, so if you do the math, 30 local bands could/are probably handling all the cost of the show, and advertising is essentially free, both AAF and BCN are plugging it, either positively or negatively. but its a tough position to be in, i want to support CSDO and Meliah Rage, because i think they are good bands. im just hoping that the day will run smoothly, and maybe one or two of these other bands will be good, and that maybe some of the people there will be turned onto the local scene, which was supposed to be the intention of locobazooka in the first place.

heh, anyone ever seen 'Wicked Wisdom'?! I can feel the awesome metal of Jada Pinkette-Smith under my skin already.

Wow yer so smart! I wont even defend against those coments except to say WRONG on every level. This site seems to have the hatred of a white power movment and for what? Most of you guys are going to the fuckin show but are gonna rip it up just so yer freinds dont think you like Nickleback (and inside you do) But if you dont rob somone for your ticket then I guess you to are sucker for paying $8.50 per band some of whom you might dig. Without drawing fire on my fellow band mates I speak for myself But Ill be playing for 20,000 people including you if your not indisposed whilst vomiting up a well spent $20.00. See ya at the show! SPORTS FANS!

please keep the whiskey outta this

whisky said:

And the majority of those 20,000 people are gonna be the ones who dont like old school 80s/early 90s Death and Thrash Metal.Most will be kids/teens who think that Nickleback,Korn and Rob Zombie are Metal.I wont support any kind of commercial crap.The underground scene needs way more help in surviving than the mainstream does.Fuck this tour!!!!!

When Distrust was going, We played Milwaukee Metalfest twice, and New Jersey Metalmeltdown twice, and had to pay $ 1000 to Jack Kishick promotions.

This is the same thing just on a bigger scale. Even the "true metalfests" had the same PAY TO PLAY bullshit. It sux u just can't avoid it even country and all other music has to deal with it in some way or another.

Distrust-Kevin said:


Koshick is a notorious rip off. In the old AC days he booked us to play that November to Dismember thing in Texas. He used our name on all the ads and promo. I know a bunch of kids got tickets because we were playing. Then, less than two weeks before the show, our plane tickets hadn't shown up yet. I tried to contact him to find out what was going on. He never responded. Then, one week before the showm our name was taken off the website.
Basically he never had any intention of flying us out. He just used our name to sell tickets.
He's done the same thing with several other bands too. Mostly European ones.

Thats funny cuz one of the NJ fests, (cant remember which one) Napalm Death was supposed to play and didn't. Wonder if maybe same thing happened with them.

The NJ metalfest was pretty cool back in 2003.To bad those fests are no more.

The fact of the matter this year is:
This is so far one of the worst line ups Loco has ever had. I'm not talking about quality, per say, as much as number. They have like 5 headline bands, most of which has little or no airplay and the main headliner is the remains of a once great band with a dead lead singer.
I remember when they had a lot of bands they actually played or bands that had a serious pull. Remember when one year could have Primus, Kid ock, Limp Bizkit, Slipknot, Machine Head, Faith No More, Static X, Korn, ect. They got NO ONE this year. 90% of it is locals no one has ever heard of! They don't even have the Harder Faster stage anymore which was becoming one of the main draws of the past two years.
I'm not saying these bands are great by any means, but lets think about this. If you were booking this bill and compared it to past locos with a $60 price tag, does it match up at all to REALLY draw people???
NO, IT DOESN'T! Either the booker has fucked up big time or something is wrong.
Funny side note, I have a source inside this whole deal who told me funny stories about last year. They had a chance to book Avenged Sevenfold, but passed on them for Dope, because they'd never heard of them. They even put up a poll on the WAAF and Loco message boards asking the people to pick between A7X and Dope. A7X won by a landslide and still didn't get booked. Dope was a one hit wonder that hadn't been in rotation on WAAF in 6-7 years. 4-5 months later, they are all over A7X's nuts and have "Bat Country" on all the time.
Also, they had a choice between booking Clutch or Lamb of God. They picked Clutch over a price difference of $1000. Granted, I like Clutch, Lamb of God has a huge draw and $1000 extra for a huge notiable draw like that is a no brainer for a large festival and they blew it!
Plus, What the hell is the point of going to the Tweeter Center?!
That has to be more expensive then Green Hill Park or the Fitchberg airport. Plus, it limits the overall room for stages and playing.
The local bands get worse every year, whereas years back you could see some REAL underground Hardcore and Metal bands play there and sell less tickets for less money. It just gets worse and worse every year and just boggles my mind in terms of just pure business. It leads me to believe one thing.
They absolutely 100% do not give a damn at all anymore.

And yes, IT'S A FUCKING SCAM!

I'm happy for my friends in Burn In Silence to get the chance to play this show without all the crap in selling tickets and whatnot, but the fact remains that this is the worst line up for Loco ever and it may do minimal for them aside from blowing away some meatheads that don't even know dick about metalcore.

Dankill said:

how do u know these bands suck when u aint heard em yet

hey i like nickelback!

I stopped going to Locobazooka when they started going to the Fitchburg Airport Base. Greenhill Park was flat out awesome there because it was smaller, more shaded, and you definately didn't need to run forever to get to another stage plus when I used to go there were 3 stages so I'm not sure how many there are this time. The lineup in the past Locobazooka's used to be great and overall it was a good time. Now it's just completely going down hill in my eyes. It is a rip off for the bands. I don't know if any of these bands can actually sell 200 tickets and I don't know if you can make money off this but I've always hated selling tickets. But hey if a band can sell 200 tickets at the drop of a hat then to eaches own. I just don't think it's worth it.

everpessimistnow said:

We figured that.
You still haven't figured out that you're being made fun of, have you?

make fun all you'd like nickelback is soooo 'core!

pfff

its just too bad that barely anyone works together. a band will step on your face to get one fraction of a step ahead of you, then bitch about "unity" when they are stepped on. i personally dont think there is any saving of the local scene. it will collapse before it gets any better. its easy for those that have friends in the scene and are "popular" local acts to say that things are fine. but when a band tries to emerge, if they arent cookie cutter they are just shit on. i think its up to the bands to boycott Loco in order to help support the local scene, but again, its all about getting one step ahead.

Cuz if I haven't heard em yet, there is a reason for it!

AIC can throw any front man up there because the real Alice In Chains isn't Layne, it's Jerry Cantrell. Most of you thrashers don't realize it because all you know is a mush of speeding instruments and gargling vocals. Jerry is the voice that makes all the Alice signature harmonies that made AIC famous in the first place. Jerry wrote all the songs because Layne was in heroin loserville all the time. I can't wait to see Jerry in chains because they will be better than Layne in Chains!!!!!!

i think instead of the harder faster stage they said you could go free to last nights sthresstour at the palladium?

the fools are playing

Travis Meeks kicked ass