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New site? Maybe some day. 
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Man Cro Cop fucked Sapp up! |
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Ok here is the link my bad I'm slow.
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someone said that punch shattered his orbital bone (outer eye socket bone). I think I would cry too.
this is from his wikipedia site:
"Despite losing his first fight by disqualification, Sapp was initially successful in K-1. He twice defeated four-time K-1 champion Ernesto Hoost by technical knockout. Sapp's initial success with his intimidating, blind chase-and-punch method slowly petered out into disqualifications for bullrushing and punching after referee breaks. Additionally, experienced opponents discovered Sapp's weak points—his weak chin and legs. In what marked the beginning of his K-1 decline, Sapp was knocked out by Croatian Mirko "Cro Cop" Filipovic in 86 seconds at the March 30, 2003, Saitama event. After Filipovic landed several solid kicks to his sides and legs, an overhand left broke Sapp's orbital bone." |
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CroCop is a tough motherfucker. |
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Eh, everyone has their day with these matches, because it's real fighting. I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of the guys cry out in pain, but they never publicize that.
Sapp gets props for appearing in a Takashi Miike film. |
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sapp is huge but he isnt exactly that tough. no skill at all. he drops like a bitch when he gets hit decently. although a broken orbital bone would drop any one of you people too so you cant really fault him for that. |
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Steve The Undertaker will always be #1 and secondly Cro Cop is the baddest of the bad if he could only beat that ass clown Fedor he would be #1 in the world. But someone everyone should watch because I believe he is the next big thing is Brandan "The Truth" Vera. He's chrasmatic and he can fuck people up. |
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TheGreatSpaldino said: | sapp is huge but he isnt exactly that tough. no skill at all. he drops like a bitch when he gets hit decently. although a broken orbital bone would drop any one of you people too so you cant really fault him for that. |
Well, almost any hit one of those guys make would drop any of US hehe. |
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Morbid_Mike said: | Steve The Undertaker will always be #1 and secondly Cro Cop is the baddest of the bad if he could only beat that ass clown Fedor he would be #1 in the world. But someone everyone should watch because I believe he is the next big thing is Brandan "The Truth" Vera. He's chrasmatic and he can fuck people up. |
he aint talking bout the undertaker. . . . . |
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sacreligion said: Morbid_Mike said:| Steve The Undertaker will always be #1 and secondly Cro Cop is the baddest of the bad if he could only beat that ass clown Fedor he would be #1 in the world. But someone everyone should watch because I believe he is the next big thing is Brandan "The Truth" Vera. He's chrasmatic and he can fuck people up. |
he aint talking bout the undertaker. . . . . |
NO WAY REALLY! I have a brain man but anyone named MORBID mike might have and affinity for MR Mark Callaway! p.s. I used to pro wrestle and the Undertaker was my number one superstar to rip off! |
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And on top of that the Freat Kahli is a filthy fucking MUSLIM! |
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nah man he's from a mountain town in northern india he's probably pagan
plus, he beat the undertaker's ass...and could tear your arms off |
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sacreligion said: nah man he's from a mountain town in northern india he's probably pagan
plus, he beat the undertaker's ass...and could tear your arms off |
He could try but I know much too much about the human anatomy to let that happen three pounds of pressure an ears gone! Even less for an eye!
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i think it's more than 3 pounds...i just pulled on my ear pretty hard and it's still there |
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No I am quite sure my friend. Obviously you are going to stop yourself before your ear rips off and either way yea The Great Kahli is huge but fuck him he's a pro wrestler have him fight Fedor and I bet he gets beat badly! |
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no way dude...he's not even strong enough to knock him over, or even make a dent for that matter
if fedor came near khali it'd be like robot chicken's "most one-sided fist fights" |
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OH YEAH!? well my dad can beat up your dad! |
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ha...I was gonna say that. |
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I think it's funny how many people on here and quick to call the dude a pussy for going down like that. I had no idea there were so many professional shootfighters on this board. |
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seriously. And he broke a fucking bone that holds your eye in place... |
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Yeah well Kahli is a murderer (technically). He killed someone in the ring by accident. The guy died from his injuries. |
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Yeah, breaking your orbital bone is no joke. I know a little bit about it... and thats's no easy rehab. |
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sacreligion said: no way dude...he's not even strong enough to knock him over, or even make a dent for that matter
if fedor came near khali it'd be like robot chicken's "most one-sided fist fights" |
you are not serious?!
Fedor would turn that tall freak into a pile of goo with one punch.
Theres a big difference in being big and jacked, than being a GREAT fighter.
Size has nothing to do with it.
And your Undertaker comment is laughable.
Let me fill you in on something.....WRESTLING IS FAKE.
IT IS A SHOW.
nothing more.
The Undertaker lost, because his script advised him to do so. |
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If you broke your orbital bone, chances are you'd be bawling involuntarily anyway due to the stress on your optic nerve. |
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Sapp is an overgrown ape, that got ktfo'd by Kimo, a 250 lb mediocre fighter, with no gas. |
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Yeah. Ken Shamrock didn't kill that big goof and every other jamoke he was in the ring with because he was getting a paycheck. If it was in UFC or PRIDE... oh boy. So much death. |
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wrestling's fake?! oh my god dude...my life is over
ass
if you're a great fighter you can do all you want but if someone can tear off your arms it's kinda one-sided |
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Eh, I've seen smaller fighters take out larger fighters many times. And champions get taken down by mediocre guys. That's how fickle a real fight can be. That's why the real ones rarely last long. |
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yeah...but this dude is like 7'4 and weighs something like 450 pounds
maybe if you broke his legs with a bat you'd stand a chance |
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Also, just because wrestling is fake, does not by any means imply that WWE and other pro wrestlers (who do it for show) are weak. As fake as it is, you still have to take a pretty heavy beating and know what you are doing. |
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I wouldn't say wrestling is fake, that's real blood, those are real chairs, and those wrestlers really get hurt. Granted the matches are planed and it is scripted but seriously if there was no type of story or anything for the matches I think it would get pretty boring and some of these matches wouldn't even have a build up to them. |
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Skill beats size. Always. |
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yeah...professional wrestlers are some of the best-conditioned athletes in the world |
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sacreligion said: | yeah...but this dude is like 7'4 and weighs something like 450 pounds |
Being Large sized means he suffers a -1 to his Armor Class, -1 to his attacks, but does get a +4 Grappling bonus and Reach.
This is not Bob Sapp's first loss. Won't be the last. |
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-1 to his armor class? that dude is like pure muscle
im tellin ya dude he'll just tear your arms off |
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He can always pray for a saving throw. |
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what if he has an amulet of infinite stat points? |
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sacreligion said: -1 to his armor class? that dude is like pure muscle
im tellin ya dude he'll just tear your arms off |
The -1 to his AC comes from the fact he is Large sized, and an easier target to hit. Humans do not normally receive a natural armor bonus, regardless of how muscled they are. You can purchase a Feat to gain natural armor, but Bob Sapp must have used his supply up. |
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Man, I want to start a campaign so ba--
I mean, roleplaying games?! What the fuck, are you faggots serious? Go get laid. |
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I'm a 26 year veteran RPG faggot, and for most of that time, I could not get laid. Then I discovered the fine art of drink spiking. |
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wresters are in good shape.....cage fighters are in great shape....there is a difference, its called stamina. |
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Man, I could never find enough people that did it for fun. My circle always consisted of nothing but rules nazis. |
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My group plays for fun, rules are good to know and fun to keep it balanced (especially with the very wankable new edition), but we've pretty much kicked out all the rules lawyers over the years whose idea of a game is looking up stuff to get in a pissing contest with the DM, as opposed to playing their character and having a good time, and letting the DM have a little control over the game he put so much time into. |
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powerkok said: | wresters are in good shape.....cage fighters are in great shape....there is a difference, its called stamina. |
Some of them were one before the other, too, we can't forget that.
I've always noticed that most cage, Pride, or mixed-martial arts fights that I watch, seem to be settled by how quickly you can apply your finishing hold. Ground and pound mayhem. That's why they are so quick, and very rarely do you see a fighter in those leagues with an outstanding, durable record, because so many are equally matched in talent, physique and technique.
I wish Bas Rutten would fight some more. |
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Bas is the man....he's traing in cali now, and I believe he still trains his Neder-fighters as well.
Bas is my favorite fighter of all time, what an efficent fighting machine, and a smart man.
you dont find that very often. |
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Nice, another Bas fan!
You remember that special on TV, he was training that guy 'the Hammer' and that other guy (I forget the name) who later pussed out and quit? |
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also...I 'd have to say that Ive seen cage fighters turn wrestler.
Buy I cant think of any wrestlers (pro) that have gone to the cage. |
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Mark Coleman and Mark Kerr
There is a great documentary on it called 'The smashing machine"
definitley rent it if you havent seen it yet.
Bas is in it quite a bit and knocks Ricco out for not training hard enough. |
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Kurt Angle was an olympic wrestler before he went to the WWE and now I'm gonna go out on a limb and say he's my favorite wrestler because for some reason he makes every match awesome. Including when he faced Mark Henry and that guy is boring as shit. Kurt Angle's got talent. |
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Does Mark Coleman still fight? He seemed like he sort of had it together. |
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Coleman actually did fight recently in PrideGP, but lost quite quickly.
He is getting up there in the years.
Ever see the infamous Pete Williams high kick to Colemans face?
classic. |
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sacreligion said: | yeah...professional wrestlers are some of the best-conditioned athletes in the world |
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Surely that is the best-conditioned tamarin you've ever seen. |
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Fuck ya, George the animal Steele!!
What an amazing human. |
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dude i was talking about the cruiserweights, etc.
cage fighters have awesome stamina but usually tire out quicker because the fights are more strenuous than wrestling matches...but you gotta figure the wrestlers do matches that last a half hour and they do all sorts of crazy flips and shit throughout the whole thing |
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I think stamina-wise they are all pretty well matched, cage fights are shorter but more strenuous since it's an actual fight, whereas wrestlers showboat for long periods of time, but are doing a lot of carefully staged moves.
Fighting-wise, cage fighters would probably kick their ass though. They're not there to look good or be flashy.
Ground.
Pound.
Tapout. |
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DrinkHardThrashHard said:
 Fuck ya. |
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powerkok said: Fuck ya, George the animal Steele!!
What an amazing human. |
george the animal would still kick the shit out of that steroid looking nigger sapp |
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Wrestlers are trained to do flashy gymnastics for 10 minute stretches at a time. They are well tuned, well trained athletes.
That said, they spend little to NO time learning how to beat the fuck out of people. This is why when all the drama flashy gimmicks are set aside, not a single one of those assmonkeys could take Kurt Angle or Ken Shamrock in a fight.
Except Seargent Slaughter, of course. |
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Ken Shamrock isn't even at the top of the game anymore.
We want Bas. |
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ArrowHead nli said: | Wrestlers are trained to do flashy gymnastics for 10 minute stretches at a time. They are well tuned, well trained athletes. |
True, but pro MMA fighters are trained to fight up to 25 minute matches, with intense cardio punishment, and must be guarded against stiking, grappling/submission and the "puncher's chance" that some no-name is going to ring their bell out of nowhere.
Pro wrestlers can technically be called atheletes, true, but most pro wrestlers who actually have an MMA background (i.e. Kazushi Sakuraba, Ken Shamrock) can adapt to pro wrestling without even the slightest bit of effort, while in most cases, pro wrestlers-turned-MMA-fighters (i.e. Dos Caras Jr.) end up getting crushed seconds into their first real MMA bout (i.e. Cro Cop kicking the aforementioned Dos Caras Jr. upside the head so hard he split his scalp open even though it was hidden beneath a wrestling mask.)
Are pro wrestlers atheletes? Sure, but are they even close to being comparable to a mixed martial artist? Fuck no.
Just as a note: Bob Sapp was the Japanese K-1 Grand Prix champion in 2005, by the way, so although he's not exactly the most graceful or measured MMA fighter, he sure as hell gets the job done. Also, he beat Ernesto Hoost, who beat Cro Cop THREE times. It's not the fighters' history, it's all in the fight at hand, so you never know. |
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MMA fighters can certainly kick pro wrestlin' ass.
No bullshit.
Ground.
Pound.
Break.
That's what I love about it...
Also, I must admit MMA has a great overall level of sportsmanship. These guys all know that they can kick each others' asses, even the good ones know they could lose on the drop of a dime if they aren't paying attention to even a low-ranking fighter. So there is this great level of respect. |
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TheAccursedDrummer nli said: ArrowHead nli said:| Wrestlers are trained to do flashy gymnastics for 10 minute stretches at a time. They are well tuned, well trained athletes. |
True, but pro MMA fighters are trained to fight up to 25 minute matches, with intense cardio punishment, and must be guarded against stiking, grappling/submission and the "puncher's chance" that some no-name is going to ring their bell out of nowhere.
Pro wrestlers can technically be called atheletes, true, but most pro wrestlers who actually have an MMA background (i.e. Kazushi Sakuraba, Ken Shamrock) can adapt to pro wrestling without even the slightest bit of effort, while in most cases, pro wrestlers-turned-MMA-fighters (i.e. Dos Caras Jr.) end up getting crushed seconds into their first real MMA bout (i.e. Cro Cop kicking the aforementioned Dos Caras Jr. upside the head so hard he split his scalp open even though it was hidden beneath a wrestling mask.)
Are pro wrestlers atheletes? Sure, but are they even close to being comparable to a mixed martial artist? Fuck no.
Just as a note: Bob Sapp was the Japanese K-1 Grand Prix champion in 2005, by the way, so although he's not exactly the most graceful or measured MMA fighter, he sure as hell gets the job done. Also, he beat Ernesto Hoost, who beat Cro Cop THREE times. It's not the fighters' history, it's all in the fight at hand, so you never know. |
Try reading my entire post, and you'll see that you just reiterated my point.
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But d00dz Kenta Kobashi put a bear in a headlock! |
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the problem with a lot of MMA these days is it's all rolling around fucking each other(at least in ufc)
that's where the fighters tire themselves out, trying to break out of ground grappling/trying to win a ground grapple
i have the same issue with boxing...20 seconds of dancing around, 3 punches, hugging |
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There are traditional sambo wrestlers (in Russia) who actually train against bears. I believe the bears are carefully selected for size though and the claws are snipped.
That's how Capcom got the idea for Zangief. Notice all those scar? |
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DrinkHardThrashHard said: Ken Shamrock isn't even at the top of the game anymore.
We want Bas. |
Bas set to fight Kimo in the upcoming WFA fight card! |
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sacreligion said: the problem with a lot of MMA these days is it's all rolling around fucking each other(at least in ufc)
that's where the fighters tire themselves out, trying to break out of ground grappling/trying to win a ground grapple
i have the same issue with boxing...20 seconds of dancing around, 3 punches, hugging |
Listen there is absolutly nothing gay about grappling if I knock your ass out you will probably be fine 20 mins later if I dislocate or break your arm or choke you out that's something mentally that sticks and the pain last much longer physically and egotistically. |
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DrinkHardThrashHard said: powerkok said:| wresters are in good shape.....cage fighters are in great shape....there is a difference, its called stamina. |
Some of them were one before the other, too, we can't forget that.
I've always noticed that most cage, Pride, or mixed-martial arts fights that I watch, seem to be settled by how quickly you can apply your finishing hold. Ground and pound mayhem. That's why they are so quick, and very rarely do you see a fighter in those leagues with an outstanding, durable record, because so many are equally matched in talent, physique and technique.
I wish Bas Rutten would fight some more. |
88-14-6 Jeremy Horn's fighting record and he's still fighting! |
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sacreligion said: no way dude...he's not even strong enough to knock him over, or even make a dent for that matter
if fedor came near khali it'd be like robot chicken's "most one-sided fist fights" |
I have to agree with Powerkok on this one wrestling is fake and the great Khali would get desroyed by Fedor on Fedor's worst day. There is a reason Fedor is #1 in the world and is undefeated in all meanings of the word if Royce Gracie can tapout Akebono what makes you think Fedor could beat up a big slow indian.If you have any doubt search youtube for the video titled Fedor's striking power. |
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I want you to know I am pumped so many people are fans of combat sports even if these are arguments It's better to know that MMA is truly reaching it's golden age if anyone of you guys is interested in being a fighter MA has some of the best MMA schools around (ie Sit Yod Tong and The Boneyard) |
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Morbid_Mike said: DrinkHardThrashHard said:powerkok said:| wresters are in good shape.....cage fighters are in great shape....there is a difference, its called stamina. |
Some of them were one before the other, too, we can't forget that.
I've always noticed that most cage, Pride, or mixed-martial arts fights that I watch, seem to be settled by how quickly you can apply your finishing hold. Ground and pound mayhem. That's why they are so quick, and very rarely do you see a fighter in those leagues with an outstanding, durable record, because so many are equally matched in talent, physique and technique.
I wish Bas Rutten would fight some more. |
88-14-6 Jeremy Horn's fighting record and he's still fighting! |
Like I said, though, rarely, and does he fight the tough fighters a lot? I barely even remember his name.
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Jeremy Horn is the only MMA fighter to fight free fights. |
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As far as tough opponents well I believe most these guys are tough and it all depends on the skill level of fighting but last I checked Horn was Militich(SP?) The toughest guys in the MMA world. |
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DrinkHardThrashHard said: There are traditional sambo wrestlers (in Russia) who actually train against bears. I believe the bears are carefully selected for size though and the claws are snipped.
That's how Capcom got the idea for Zangief. Notice all those scar? |
Zangeif is also a faggot, according to Capcom of Japan. are you implying that Russian sambo wrestlers are gay? ;) |
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Sambo owns everyone except Tim Sylvia! |
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SteveOTB said: I disagree with biggest man you've ever seen.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XP8uWqGXfH0&search=Khali |
that guy is hugee |
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anonymous said: | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Nj2RPyR0FQ&mode=related&search= |
THAT IS FUCKIN AWESOME! AHAHAHAHHAA |
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sacreligion said:
Yes WTF is right! |
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that's better than arnold's japanese commercial appearance |
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Morbid_Mike said: | Sambo owns everyone except Tim Sylvia! |
PFFFFFFFFT
Sylvia got lucky.
It wont happen again.
AA is going to demolish him. |
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TheGreatSpaldino said: DrinkHardThrashHard said:There are traditional sambo wrestlers (in Russia) who actually train against bears. I believe the bears are carefully selected for size though and the claws are snipped.
That's how Capcom got the idea for Zangief. Notice all those scar? |
Zangeif is also a faggot, according to Capcom of Japan. are you implying that Russian sambo wrestlers are gay? ;) |
Well, it does get pretty cold out there in the Siberian outback. |
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I feel obligated to tell any fight fans here, http://www.sherdog.net
is a great fight forum.
I am on there quite frequently. |
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when i view the commercial alls i can think of is donkey kong |
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If you want to see how huge Bob Sapp really is, check out the samurai horror slasher flick Izo by Takashi Miike. The entire film consists of a samurai coming back from the dead and cutting his way through various scenes, people, and time periods, and that is it! But there is one scene in which he faces off against Sapp, who is playing a giant monk, complete with the bead necklace. It's fucking hilarious. |
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There you go!
Seriously fucked up, awesome flick! Then again, few of Miike films aren't. |
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Iwouldnt especially call bobby sapp a pussy.... but I think his size and physique add to his popularity, rather than fighting skill.
I am not a huge Sapp fan.
Goodridge would HOUSE him. |
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Sapp is like a Michael Clarke Duncan that can fight a little. |
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Hahah, I don't know how he can even hold that controller. Maybe an XBOX controller... |
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hahahah good analogy.....have you seen m c d at any recent ufc events?
Hes gotten alot smaller. |
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I would love to make a living letting Japanese corporations make light of me, but I'm afraid I have no viable gimmick. |
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that video is like me, beating up 8 year olds. |
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I've seen that other video somewhere, maybe on my IZO DVD. |
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What's that other guy, the huge Brazilian (?), called "Mutant"? |
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nice, I have an old KOTC dvd with a fight between
Herb Dean vs Larry Landless.
I forget who won.
plus, all the goons from the tuf shows I II III are on alot of the cards. |
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Hahahaha....Morning Musume.... |
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DrinkHardThrashHard said: | What's that other guy, the huge Brazilian (?), called "Mutant"? |
Ricardo Morais |
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pam said:
He has to beat Fedor to dominaTE. and he hasnt had much luck. |
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that video wasn't that impressive actually...he's not that accurate with his hands he's pretty much flailing wildly
he'd be much mroe devastating if the threw punches wiht his weight behind them as opposed to just relying on his strength |
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Niccolai(?) Valuev
Look for him in the current/future HW boxing division.
He is fuckin ENORMOUS!!! |
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sacreligion said: that video wasn't that impressive actually...he's not that accurate with his hands he's pretty much flailing wildly
he'd be much mroe devastating if the threw punches wiht his weight behind them as opposed to just relying on his strength |
Exactly.
Hes got no skill. |
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Oh definitely, he's just a big lug that starts peppering you with blows, unfortunately he's such a big lug that means he can hurt you with those blows. Or just pick you up and throw you somewhere painful. |
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powerkok said: sacreligion said:that video wasn't that impressive actually...he's not that accurate with his hands he's pretty much flailing wildly
he'd be much mroe devastating if the threw punches wiht his weight behind them as opposed to just relying on his strength |
Exactly.
Hes got no skill. |
*I still would not fight him.
I would even go so far as to say, I wouldnt even bother shooting him with a pistol.
Havta break out the 3 1/2 inch mag! |
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Damn, that guy Fedor is sick. Only one loss by TKO (cut). |
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you figure he'd train to become the best...not just work out all day so he's huge and immobile
khali will still kill everyone
that's just size that i don't think can be stopped |
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Yup....he is the best mma champ in a long time, if not ever.
Superb stand up, great everything else.
He is a machine. |
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would you stop with yer khali already!?
hed get killed in mma.
hahaha jeez. |
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The thing with Sapp is, he's got the personality so he just makes most of his dough off appearances. He probably doesn't give two shits about his record, as long as he gets paid and doesn't get broken too hard. |
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powerkok said: pam said:
He has to beat Fedor to dominaTE. and he hasnt had much luck. |
Yes, but Fedor is not human. |
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So I take it he's called Cro-Cop because he's a Croatian cop? |
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I love both Cro-Cop and Fedor. I was watching through my fingers when they fought. I knew Fedor would take him in the end but DAMN what a good fight. |
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someone find the video of Cro-Cop kicking that twat in the mexican wrestling mask in the face. that shit is hilarious. |
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sure was.....I love them both as well. well...ya not personally or anything, but.....ya. |
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hahaha ya....u see the blood coming out of the mask?? awesome.
What a tool.
I asked some peeps on sherdog what the deal was with the mask, and they say in Mexico, its some luta Livre shit, that you MUST wear the mask for honor or some garbage like that. GHEY. |
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pam said:
I wouldnt do Fedor....you ever see his teeth? |
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Yeah the Mexican mask is all important to them. Cro-Cop was smirking about it in his pre-fight interview. He's so awesome.
I don't think I have seen Fedor's teeth...can't be any worse than Takayama's grill...eeeesh |
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my uncle vinny on the right |
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that is not real. no way. that is fucking gross. |
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that'd be hilarious if that was real |
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powerkok said: pam said:
He has to beat Fedor to dominaTE. and he hasnt had much luck. |
This is very true my friend. And I must agree to disagree Sylvia will win cause he slimmed down and gotten much faster but either way I get these things every month so any of you HCN dudes are welcome to come to Lowell for a party with the BMR crew. |
 
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