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returntothepit >> discuss >> Using a serial number to find out the year of my bass by xmikex on Jun 5,2006 2:56pm
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toggletoggle post by xmikex at Jun 5,2006 2:56pm
So I bought this super sweet Fender Precision bass off of a friend of a friend this weekend. He didn't know much about it, and I'm trying to figure out exactly how old this thing is (everyone who's looked at it said probably 70's). How can I use the serial number to find out the year?

thanks.



toggletoggle post by sacreligion at Jun 5,2006 2:57pm
contact the company

isn't that what serial numbers are for? keeping track?



toggletoggle post by SACAPAPADOO   at Jun 5,2006 2:58pm
last 2 numbers in the code should be the year, i.e 1234567 its a 67



toggletoggle post by Kinslayer at Jun 5,2006 3:04pm
Whats the serial number?

I have to do this shit at work all the time...



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Jun 5,2006 3:16pm
i'm at work right now. i'll get it to you tonight.



toggletoggle post by ShadowSD at Jun 5,2006 3:22pm
SACAPAPADOO said:
last 2 numbers in the code should be the year, i.e 1234567 its a 67


Be careful when ordering an instrument using the two digit system, though. I say this having recently become the owner of a steam-powered 1867 Whigenbocker bass.



toggletoggle post by SACAPAPADOO   at Jun 5,2006 4:10pm
ah point well taken



toggletoggle post by Ryan_M at Jun 5,2006 4:17pm
ShadowSD said:
SACAPAPADOO said:
I say this having recently become the owner of a steam-powered 1867 Whigenbocker bass.


hahahaha



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Jun 5,2006 4:52pm
there should be a site that you can go to.
most guitar companies have them



toggletoggle post by niccolai   at Jun 5,2006 4:55pm
Supply a picture.

Specifically of the headstock logo, controll cavity (if any), and the heel.

Many maufacturers from that time era didn't have an archivable serial number system, so it's very possible that it's just a number. At the very least I will be able to find out what factory made it.



toggletoggle post by niccolai   at Jun 5,2006 4:57pm
the_reverend said:
there should be a site that you can go to.
most guitar companies have them


Practically never have serial number info though.

You can usually email a company and expect a response in 2-4 MONTHS.


I'd say the BEST bet is to find a forum dedicated to that company. Most people there will be historians on the company and will be able to tell you everything.



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Jun 5,2006 5:28pm
396981



toggletoggle post by SACAPAPADOO   at Jun 5,2006 5:31pm
i say 1981



toggletoggle post by niccolai   at Jun 5,2006 5:45pm
could be any number of things. pictures would help.

alot of times companies go year/month/number made

other companies go by term/factory/year



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Jun 5,2006 7:00pm
i did some research and the year i came up with was 73. I just took it to a shop to get some work done on it and they said it could be even older.



toggletoggle post by TheGreatSpaldino   at Jun 5,2006 7:05pm
THATS A LOT OF NUTS!

but seriously... damn, thats old.



toggletoggle post by blue  at Jun 5,2006 10:39pm edited Jun 5,2006 10:40pm
xmikex said:
i did some research and the year i came up with was 73. I just took it to a shop to get some work done on it and they said it could be even older.


it is even older. fender serial numbers from the seventies on have a letter at the beginning the serial. yours as far as i can tell is 1970 or before.


you might be able to date it better if you:

#1 look under the pickguard
#2 seperate the neck from the body and look in the neck joint



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Jun 6,2006 9:18am
it's in the shop right now getting some work done but once i get it back i'll post some pics and let the RTTP historical society here take a crack at it. haha

thanks



toggletoggle post by ShadowSD at Jun 6,2006 4:54pm
xmikex said:
396981

i did some research and the year i came up with was 73. I just took it to a shop to get some work done on it and they said it could be even older.


1881 dude, I'm telling you...




toggletoggle post by ShadowSD at Jun 6,2006 4:55pm
I'll offer you twelve shillings for it.



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Jun 6,2006 6:04pm
Fender serial #s DO NOT use the last 2 digits for the date. For an older one, I'm not sure, but looking under the pickguard MIGHT have the date(my 78 telecaster has it on the end of the neck under the pickguard. At some point, I believe around 76-77, they adopted the system that they still use(for American made models). It is a letter followed by a series of numbers. The letter tells you the decade, S=70s, E= 80s, N= 90s, Z= 2000s. For example, I've got a Strat right here next to me, serial # N8960183. It's a 98. If your bass doesn't have a letter at the beginning, it's older than mid 70s. My 78 tele has S8#####... but the ones from a few years earlier don't have the letter and I'm not sure how to tell the date by the serial #.




toggletoggle post by niccolai   at Jun 6,2006 9:11pm
usually in the neck mocket, or under the picguard wil be 'date of completion' or the innitials/name of the luthier who completed it.


used the last two numbers of the year in the serrial is a very recent prctice, I don't know why everyone thinks it's a given.



toggletoggle post by blue  at Jun 6,2006 9:16pm
niccolai said:

used the last two numbers of the year in the serrial is a very recent prctice, I don't know why everyone thinks it's a given.


when did they start with that? to this day fender still does the 'letter plus number' technique on all their serial numbers to date them.



toggletoggle post by xmikex at Jun 6,2006 10:58pm
ShadowSD said:
xmikex said:
396981

i did some research and the year i came up with was 73. I just took it to a shop to get some work done on it and they said it could be even older.


1881 dude, I'm telling you...



Francis Scott Key wrote the star spangled banner on it. I'll sell it to you for $14 Confederate dollars.



toggletoggle post by niccolai   at Jun 7,2006 9:19am edited Jun 7,2006 9:21am
blue said:
niccolai said:

used the last two numbers of the year in the serrial is a very recent prctice, I don't know why everyone thinks it's a given.


when did they start with that? to this day fender still does the 'letter plus number' technique on all their serial numbers to date them.


What I meant is companies in general haven't been doing the 'last two numbers are the year of production' thing. With the Exception of BCrich, they've been doing it since the seventies. I have no idea how fender's sn system is, I try and avoid fenders.



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Aug 15,2009 6:58pm
mij, vj cj any J in the # will mean it was made or crafted in japan. the last 2 digits dont mean anything anymore. and a M in the # coming first means mexican made



toggletoggle post by joeyumbrella  at Aug 15,2009 9:34pm
blue said[orig][quote]
niccolai said:

used the last two numbers of the year in the serrial is a very recent prctice, I don't know why everyone thinks it's a given.


when did they start with that? to this day fender still does the 'letter plus number' technique on all their serial numbers to date them.


fender didnt incorporate that until the 80's... not posi, but pretty?



toggletoggle post by Conservationist  at Aug 15,2009 10:28pm



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