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returntothepit >> discuss >> psychedelic drugs as medicine? by HailTheLeaf on May 24,2006 12:27pm
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toggletoggle post by HailTheLeaf  at May 24,2006 12:27pm
http://www.alternet.org/drugreporter/36346/

This features an interview with Charles Grob, and while it doesn't cover as much as I'd hoped, at least it's out there. I also recommend watching "Hoffan's Potion", which goes into the LSD experiments conducted in Canada in the 50's and 60's in much more detail.

Charles Grob, M.D., is director of the Division of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry at Harbor-UCLA Medical Center and professor of Psychiatry and Pediatrics at the UCLA School of Medicine. He conducted the first government-approved psycholobiological research study of MDMA, was the principal investigator of an international project in the Brazilian Amazon of ayahuasca, and is now studying the use of psilocybin with advanced-stage cancer patients. He is editor of "Hallucinogens: A Reader" and recently co-edited, with Roger Walsh, "Higher Wisdom: Eminent Elders Explore the Continuing Impact of Psychedelics."




toggletoggle post by Yeti at May 24,2006 12:38pm
yeah it didnt get too in depth, but it was interesting. i still dont agree with the use of ecstasy, but i do partake in mushrooms, which i must say when taken properly and you dont let the trip overtake you and go bad, it changes you.



toggletoggle post by HailTheLeaf  at May 24,2006 12:51pm
yeah, I'm all set with ecstacy myself, but I'd definately like to know more about their research with mushrooms, and the history of plants out there with hallucinogenic properties.



toggletoggle post by whiskey_weed_and_women  at May 24,2006 12:54pm
everyone should be made to take pcp at least twice a week



toggletoggle post by HailTheLeaf  at May 24,2006 12:57pm
pcp? fuck that...



toggletoggle post by whiskey_weed_and_women  at May 24,2006 12:59pm
HailTheLeaf said:
pcp? fuck that...


its ok ill bring over some and you wont even know, best drug ever.....right up there with mesc



toggletoggle post by HailTheLeaf  at May 24,2006 1:00pm
nnnnoooo thanks, all set with the chemicals



toggletoggle post by whiskey_weed_and_women  at May 24,2006 1:01pm
HailTheLeaf said:
nnnnoooo thanks, all set with the chemicals


haha you wouldnt even know dood, haha you wouldnt even know



toggletoggle post by whiskey_weed_and_women  at May 24,2006 1:02pm
i think itd be awesome to see you on real psychedelics that have speed attached, put you out in the streets.

you'd like a crazy lil monkey. itd fucking hiliarious



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at May 24,2006 1:03pm
HTL just wants to smoke all the plants she finds



toggletoggle post by whiskey_weed_and_women  at May 24,2006 1:04pm
hey pcp was a plant of some sort at one point or another



toggletoggle post by HailTheLeaf  at May 24,2006 1:05pm
depends on the plant..haha



toggletoggle post by Man_of_the_Century at May 24,2006 1:22pm
Interesting, but I'm going to researve judgement till the end on the study. I do like how that guy doesn't come right out and say that the drugs will do this or that, he leaves the option of failure open.



toggletoggle post by RichHorror  at May 24,2006 1:41pm
Cocaine is a plant.



toggletoggle post by HailTheLeaf  at May 24,2006 8:30pm edited May 24,2006 8:30pm
Flintstones chewable morphine!



toggletoggle post by Jugulator at May 24,2006 9:06pm
I used to do LSD back in day.I was told by a shrink that doing that drug to much can cause permanent pyschosis.All I know is that after I stopped doing it I got paranoid and depressed.Not a recomended drug to get into.



toggletoggle post by whiskey_weed_and_women  at May 24,2006 9:09pm
dood shut the fuck up acid flashbacks are a daily activity for me. saying acid is bad is like saying hey dont drink water.

you fool, you're bad for the drugs. not the otherway around.



toggletoggle post by HailTheLeaf  at May 24,2006 9:15pm
I haven't done acid since high school...



toggletoggle post by Jugulator at May 24,2006 9:15pm
Ive never had a flashback



toggletoggle post by whiskey_weed_and_women  at May 25,2006 12:53am
Jugulator said:
Ive never had a flashback


then you havent done nearly enough of it to be concerned about shit.



toggletoggle post by hungtableed at May 25,2006 1:33am
I always thought ecstacy is for fuckin homos,
but acid (more specifically liquid) and shrooms were always a great time.



toggletoggle post by retzam at May 25,2006 6:35am
Shrooms are soooo great. I've only done them 3 times and two of those times were like, amazing experiences. The other time was fun, but I was just hanging out at a friends house and was unable to really go anywhere, so the experience wasn't all that it could have been. Even if you don't take enough to have crazy hallucinations, you still have a lot of fun. I wanna try acid. I think I'm gonna some time this summer.



toggletoggle post by retzam at May 25,2006 6:38am
Oh yeah, and as for ecstacy, I took like a third of a pill once and barely noticed anything, but I was reallllly stoned at the time, so maybe that's why. My friend who took the rest of the pill said he was feeling it pretty noticeably, so I was surprised when I got nothing at all. Probably a combination of shitty X and high resistance. I'm not very interested in the stuff though. Too much risk in what your getting lots of times, although, I guess it's getting safer. Still, I'd probably just want to fuck whoever was around.

Salvia is good too, but I've never had really strong stuff that can really give you a crazy out-of-body experience.



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