On Saturday night, I was assaulted just after Morbid Angel finished up their set. I'm not going to get into too much detail about it. I really didn't want to make a big deal about it but since people are talking I might as well issue a statement about it.

I was talking to Rev, my girlfriend, and standing next to some other friends who are regulars on this board. I was tapped on the shoulder by someone who I thought was a friend, whom I've NEVER spoken a negative word about and someone who is also twice if not more my size. I turned around to shake his hand and say 'What's up?'. Suddenly he grabs my head, bashes it against his, then pushes me over the seat/bar onto the pit floor and takes off. I stood up just trying to figure out what was going on. Everyone around had no idea it was even me at first, some thought it was a joke. Whatever. Anyways, I'm fine. I've since tried calling this induvidual to find out what the issue is, left a message, no reply. I will keep trying though as I would prefer to verbally settle whatever problem there is that I'm totally unaware of.

If you have been around here as of late, you'd know that I haven't been involved in too many discussions especially negative ones consisting of drama. Maybe I'm growing up a bit, or I'm just sick of it, I don't know. Josh Martin and I have had our fair share of arguments over this forum in particular and never has he taken things seriously enough to physically attack me. We've both said some pretty terrible things to eachother but it never left the internet. Why? Because we all have opinions, things to say, and no matter what is said it doesn't mean you want to do physical harm to that person because regardless of what you do to that person you can't take someone's opinions away from them. I will still have my opinions and no one will be able to take them from me, well unless you remove my brain.

I understand there are going to be people who are laughing about this thinking "well he deserved it." None of you will be able to convince me that I deserved being attacked for talking on a message board. Luckily I walked away with minimal injury, but it could have been worse if I was hit in a certain spot on my nose. Who knows? What if for some ridiculous reason I sufferred serious brain trauma and died? Over Internet Message Board Drama...and because someone takes harmless internet drama THAT seriously. Would you be laughing then? you know I wouldn't be suprised if some of you said yes. Am I going to go bomb your house for it or even care all that much? NO.

Well I have to say that my safety is not worth sacrificing for this message board. I know I can post on harmony-central.com and such talking about how certain guitars and amps suck without people much bigger than I hunting me down at shows for a cheapshot. I will still be around but only to discuss shows and other harmless matters. I've been a member of this board since it opened in Jan 02, but whatever, I'll have more time to play guitar/work and get stuff done.

Have fun everyone, and let this be an eye opener to anyone who thinks they are invincible online unless you stay inside all the time you never know who's going to take it to the next level. Apparently there are people who will, even one's who you'd least expect it from.

-ra


DrinkHardThrashHard said:

I didn't say I was going to lay off message boards as a whole, I wanted to point out that I have in fact layed off most of all the drama here and will continue to do so because before you know it, someone takes something in the wrong context, then that person tells someone else but adds on another sentence and by the time it reaches the last person it's a completely different story. I'm am done with it, it's not worth it. So if his point in this was to give me a wake up call to stop internet 'shit talking' it's too late, I already have.

Tell me who hit you so I can make fun of them in other threads in hopes they suckerpunch me.

a headbutt? who was it, the junk yard dog? seriously though, that's pretty fucking pathetic.

The singer of senseless mutilation from what I read. I must have just missed this since I left shortly after the MA set.

it was with in a few inch of my open bag where tom was thrown over. I was putting my (and carina's) camera gear away in. the bag was around arm-pit level and all my stuff would have been destroyed in a fall like that.

i was shocked when aaron first told me this as well...i still don't get it...don't think it's funny either. Even if it was message board crap, then talk to the person if something bothers you that much.

Tom, I will teach you martial arts over the next few months and then you can crane kick whoever did this to you at the Tri-Valley Regional Metal Championships. Then we can head to Okinawa for a little RnR

i think this situation is ridiculous. The guy who attacked Tom is a coward.

is his name doug aubin?

sounds like a scene in the Sopranos last night

Wow....what a fucking cunt, that's just not cool. I don't see why someone would have THAT much of a problem with Tom, he's one of the nicest guys i've ever met. Just sucks when people take a message board too seriously and resort to attacking someone unexpectedly.

Stupid drunk violent pussy.

By definition, the only violent pussy anywhere should be female.

(That means that he's gay, too)

Tom didn't deserve this...no one deserves that kind of treatment because what they say on a discussion board.

yeah, the internet isn't worth starting a real fight over. we all are entitled to our own opinions and shouldn't have to live in fear of reprocussions from speaking (typing) what's on our minds.

Tom, I hope this all works out in the end, and I'll whole heartedly agree that:

Internet < Real Life

but in actuallity the expression should be:

The Internet != Real Life (anyone not akin to g33k sp33k it translates to: The Internet DOES NOT EQUAL Real Life)

kailyn said:

I agree. Tom didn't deserve it.

i think this is ABSOLUTE bullshit.
I wont name names or anything like that but they know who they are and Tom asked i dont instigate anything further but i HAVE to say something. GROW THE FUCK UP. It's a message board. So what if someone doesnt like your band, the music you listen to, or even you! They're entitled to think and feel however the fuck they please. Taking cheap shots and taking off isnt gonna make anyone fear you or keep their mouth shut about the things you say. Its just gonna make them extremely comfrtoable in the idea that you are weak, close-minded, and a coward. I get into my fair share of arguments with people on this board, but never in a million years would assume that it would bring me or someone i know to any kind of bodily harm. Who the hell do you think you are? Everytime i think about this i fume like crazy. Anyone who knows Tom IN PERSON knows he is one of the nicest dudes on this board. So what if he's opinionated. Thats what a message board is all about. I may be babbling but I cant help it.
FUCK Censorship of ANY kind because thats exactly what this situation is.

tom, if you give up doing what you do cause someone assaulted you, it justifies their attack. You can curb your responses, I suppose, if you felt they were too caustic, but all and all I think learning from violence just supports violence as a means to an end. It's better to continue as who you are, showing that you won't let people try and "teach" you things with physical violence.

Whoever this dude is is a fucking goon.

I don't know Tom. I've only talked to him once wich was over aim to ask him a question and he was really helpful... I don't see any reason this had to happen.

tom's thin and not especially tall, clearly anyone that is big and brawny has no business fucking with him. Plus he's a nice guy, very friendly. He's not like this big menacing ogre or anything. I would think someone should just talk to him first.

or, just post shit-talking anonymously... that's what everyone else does.
don't deny it, remember, I see your ips.

Is Tom the first RTTP person to actually be assaulted for what they said online? Can we get the kid a fucking trophy? He achieved what so many have failed in attempting...

Any shit-talking I do is strictly signed in.

You're all ugly.

pam nli said:

I got jumped by a skin head with a big stick and fat girlfriend about 2 years ago for shit talking on RTTP.

I wouldn't change it for the world.

DreamingInExile said:

Definitely not.

Tom says shit that goes beyond just having an opinion.
Tom says lots of shit that, if he was saying it to that person's face, would get him punched out and it would be deserved.
The lesson here is, don't say things on the internet that you wouldn't say to someone's face. Some people get violent, that's life.

Its good that Tom learned that you can't always hide behind your keyboard.

Whoever headbutted him is a pussy for running away after he did it though.

Josh_Martin said:


While I think this situation is pretty gay, I do agree that you shouldn't say shit online that you wouldn't say to someone's face.

i knew one day someone would do this to tom. its really not very surprising it happened. sucks for you man. careful what you say. internet or not. all kinds of shitheads in this world.

Josh_Martin said:

pretty much all that needs to be said.

the_taste_of_cigarettes said:

Nick, I agree with what your saying and let me clarify what my original post was getting at. I haven't been 'talking shit' about anything lately, I stopped because it was just getting old. Which even furthermore makes this entire attack on me even more bogus. I've never said anything negative about his band, in fact he was in porphyria for a period of time right before I joined the band, I've talked to him on the phone a few times the most recent time being in november and there was no bad blood at all.

The violence on me hasn't taught me anything other than the fact that some people have serious issues attacking someone with the build of a 13 year old in comparison to them. haha. Especially when there was no previous instigation of anything of the such. Someone was probably feeding him bullshit that night or previously which lead him to do what he did.

Stepping back and watching all the scene drama go on here without getting involved just makes me think to myself "man, did I really act/say things like that, why did I waste my time?!" There are plenty of retired people who don't post here anymore who would definitely agree on that.

i gotta respect a good headbutt. especially if he dropped the guy.
but running away? pfftt should have stood over him and spit on him. now thats a real headbutter's m.o.

I know alot of people on here talk shit about Troll, And he is in the same band, But yeah that is ridiculous. I am friends with those guys and they do get a little rowdy at times, But I never would have seen that coming. I can see sticking up for a band member, but not like that.

i like silky's JYD comment. Some of these other comments aren't needed.

I'm not one to talk shit, sure once in a while I've said a few things, but all-in-all I usually keep my mouth shut if I don't have anything good to say. I don't know what instigated the headbutt, but I'd really like to know.

I just hope that this can all be resolved verbally without anymore physical violence.

and I agree with your comment about having the build of a 13yr old... I'm just as scrawny as you... HAHAHA

dwellingsickness said:

I've never said anything bad about Troll either. I know people who have and reasons why but he's never done anything to me directly. I'm pretty sure he was also present during this incident and who flipped me off as I stood up. Why? I do not know.

I guess attendance at Coos County fest just dropped for this year..

dwellingsickness said:

I doubt it, the one we played was pretty awesome and was a good time. I did have some complaints about one of the bands that played that one member of senseless got defensive about. I didn't threaten him or even say enough to deserve this even if it was to his face. Anyways, There are a lot of people up there who are deprived of shows so I'm sure they'll continue having the same turnout as long as the lineup is solid.

I wonder if the motive was because I prefer Steve Tucker over David Vincent in Morbid Angel.

RustedAngel said:

... I'll kill you.

i'm surprised the singers of twytch and wretched asylum haven't attacked me and the majority of rttp posters yet.

RustedAngel said:

Perhaps. And thus I should probably refrain from saying that I think David Vincent aiming to replace Joey DeMaio in Manowar.

RustedAngel said:

Steve Tucker sucks...That's it, I am kickin your ass next time I see you

shitty deal, where was security? huddled off to the left of the stage measuring biceps?

what suprises me the most is that everyone just watched. i'm no tough guy, but if it went down like you said, then I would at least have been like "what the fuck was that?" sucks you can't even trust your friends in this business.

i think his friends were too shocked and taken by surprise to react before the kid ran away.

dreadkill said:

yeah, it's definitely understandable. Though I think if other certain friends of mine were present it wouldn't have happend that way if at all. Oh well. It's over. I'd still like to talk with him to squash whatever issue he has like a civil human being.

I question if Tim had been there whether there would have been such a problem.

I'd like to see that guy headbutt you with that brawny fellah around.

Have you called him?

i like when people settle things like adults.

mcmahon said:


Unfortunatly, it happened so quickly that no one had time to react. I didn't even know it was Tom until a few seconds after it happened. The "security" guards COULD have done something though.

looks like i was correct

Tom's been my neighbor for over 3 years and he's one of the coolest guys I know. This is rediculous.

dwellingsickness said:

twice, left a message. Shawn has also called him and hasn't gotten any answer either.

niccolai said:


I suppose that means you should present the trophy to him. Nice job.

wow thats fucked

This is fucking HILARIOUS!

Someone post a pic of the headbutt dude so I can buy him a beer.

nyuck nyuck.

ha, Coming from someone who talks insane amounts of shit about a number of people here but just don't post as much. I will find it hillarious when it happens to you, actually, no, no I wouldn't. Because you've never done anything to me that would make me feel like you deserve it.

I've had people try to fight me over shit I said on the internet before, it's dumb and I didn't say you deserved it. It's still really, really funny though.

BestialOnslaught said:

Explain to me how is this funny... please, I don't see the humor in it

Tom's a goon, he got hit. What's not to get?

This is bullshit. I have definetly pissed people off just joking around before, some stuff along time ago, some people take things a little too personally sometimes and dont know how to react. its ridiculous and out of control how some people think they are so grown up and above childish crap like talking shit on the internet but then go and pull bullshit like that. some people dont know how to be decent human beings and its frustrating. sorry that you had to go through that stupid ordeal.

BestialOnslaught said:

well with him being in a death metal band, we all know how you feel about death metal bands in the area maybe you could work something funny out.

I like plenty of Death Metal, just cause your band is total poo doesn't mean I hate the whole genre, retard.

ha, yeah sure, you say that now. whatever man.

wow...not cool.

Haha yeah, I'm obviously soooooo scared of getting headbutted by some dude I don't even know that I'm changing my entire opinion about Death Metal!

Your band sucks.

BestialOnslaught said:

I always found it funny how important being the Big Dick In Charge on the internet meant to you.



you must be a pretty sad guy overall.

Shut up, rapist.

BestialOnslaught said:

+10 scene points

I bet you look in the mirror at night and go "good job alex, you fucking showed them all who's boss. you fucking laid down the law. no one can touch you."

kinda like Silence of the Lambs shit

BestialOnslaught said:

I cant see the humor here buddy, care to explain yourself beyond this unintelligible comment?

Don't even try to be funny, it doesn't work. Stick to things you know, like emo and sexual assault.

kailyn said:

Yeah, cause you let him fuck you... Some of us don't like him as much as all that and are therefore entertained by it, I don't see why that's so hard to get.... And I don't think Tom posted this not expecting to have some people make fun of the situation unless he's even dumber than I thought, so get over it.

you know when there's almost a fight and somebody's always saying "He's not worth it, he's not worth it"

This dude is just instigating shit, just let him play with himself.

BestialOnslaught said:


Man, you need your own show. It can be called "Ignorant Piece of Shit Theater"

if all of your jokes are this good I bet it will run for like, 8 seasons.


Go pretend you like metal to impress more hipsters.

BestialOnslaught said:

ok, then you start a band and make better music, then you will have bragging rights.

Damn, I got all the metalcore dorks on my ass today! Tho thenthitive!!

DreamingInExile said:

That's the most retarded thing I've ever heard, and coming from someone in a Unicorn Metal band, it's even funnier.

brian_dc said:

point taken.

the_taste_of_cigarettes said:

Pretend to like Metal? Again, that's something you're much better versed in than I. Let me handle the humor and awesomeness, you take care of the posing.

BestialOnslaught said:

let's stoop a bit lower fucktard... that's an uncalled for comment

How is that uncalled for? It's true.

Seriously, please explain to me how someone has to have a band of their own in order to be allowed to have an opinion on another band. I'd really like to see that logic played out in text.

http://gorillamask.net/catfight.shtml

pam nli said:


gotta love them internets

BestialOnslaught said:


Usually if you're in a good band, people would take your comments into concideration more so than if your band sucks or dont have one.

What a remarkably intelligent contribution, we've really been lacking without your presence here in the past Kailyn.

What I've learned from my time here is that you can't win an argument with BestialOnslaught, even if you've won it. It was expected that he'd come in here with some witty comments and he did. The majority of the people here disagree with his type of mentality, it's known. Just let him go on.

brian_dc said:


I like cats.

Dude, you made this thread, why turn into a whiny bitch when it doesn't get the exact reaction you were looking for?

BestialOnslaught said:

??? Since when is Shroud a "Unicorn Metal Band" ???

that comment made me laugh, and

if I were in a powermetal band that comment would make sense, but I'd still laugh at the stupidity of that comment

read my last post, and I'm not whining at all.

RustedAngel said:

you mean the non-existant type?

DreamingInExile said:

Since I got a chance to see you guys live, duh.

Those unicorns must be really sad about the perils of life. I remember Shroud being doom metal.

isn't power metal fast?

But seriously, since noone is allowed to have an opinion unless they're in a band, I'd like to see if anyone in any actual GOOD bands has objections to me laughing at Tom's misfortune. Maybe I will change my mind if someone who can actually write a riff tells me to cut it out!

that's a rhetorical question...by the way.

You're still in a Metalcore band.

the unicorns in the movie legend were sad. so very very sad.

BestialOnslaught said:


Yeah, I know. That makes me gay. Glad we got that out of the way.

Haha...

You said it, not me!

just saving you the trouble.

this whole situation is bullshit...anyone who said what happened was funny or anything along those lines is a scumbag

i talked to this dude a few days ago about the coos county fest...now i want nothing to do with him

what a fucking coward

yeah i talked shit about people on the internet...come headbutt me

I'm no homophobe!

you like man-o-war. anyone that likes man-o-war can't be a homophobe.

Hey, what Karl Logan does backstage stays backstage!

except for everyone in manowar.

This has been fun guys!

Man-o-war = Biggest gimmick band in the history of metal,Well besides Spinal Tap

BestialOnslaught said:

you're a terrible person

I can't stand Manowar.

I'll play you off with some George Michael:

I Feel So Unsure
As i take your hand
And lead you to the dance floor
As the music dies
Something in your eyes
Calls to mind a silver screen
And all its sad goodbyes

[Chorus]

I'm never gonna dance again
Guilty feet have got no rhythm
Though it's easy to pretend
I know you're not a fool
I should have known better than to cheat a friend
And waste a chance that i've been given
So i'm never gonna dance again
The way i danced with you

Time can never mend
The careless whisper of a good friend
To the heart and mind
Ignorance is kind
There's no comfort in the truth
Pain is all you'll find

[Chorus]

Tonight the music seems so loud
I wish that we could lose this crowd
Maybe it's better this way
We'd hurt each other with the things we want to say
We could have been so good together
We could have lived this dance forever
But now who's gonna dance with me
Please stay

[Chorus]

Now that you've gone
Now that you've gone
Now that you've gone
Was what i did so wrong
So wrong that you had to leave me alone

SacreligionNLI said:

What are you doing in this thread? There aren't any shows to beg for here.

oooh, that was a pump fake exit

you failed at being funny

my posts are usually random stoned banter

Yeah, I really do not know Tom well at all but I know a lot of people have issues with him so I am not surprised at all

You talk enough shit when you weigh 120 lbs chances are at some time your going to get a licking

Oh well, reality is harsh

this thread is awesome.

CNV said:

and what are these issues?

-he said he doesn't like my band on the internet
-he said he doesn't like my friends band on the internet
-he disagree's with my opinions

chances are I don't even know these people in person nor would I have a conversation with them in any other situation than the internet maybe. That's what a message board is for, mass amounts of people who do and do not know eachother discussing different topics.

and it's funny that you said 'get a licking' my grandfather use to say that a lot, hahah.

I'm just glad The Rev's equipment is ok!

someone's getting a headbutt...

and if it ain't fionna apple i don't give a rat's ass!

BROOOOOOTAL HEADBUTT COMING YOUR WAY!!!!!!

SacreligionNLI said:


I love me some fiona apple

haha that is an old friggin pic..

inject-now said:

Thanks to who?

Haha

me.

RustedAngel said:

A guy gets killed because of a arguement on the internet? YOU BET YOUR ASS I'D BE LAUGHING! That is fucking comedy gold!

i_am_not_me said:

You're getting headbutted.

ok this thread is too much! hillarious really. i like tom and i like chug. bummer on tom's behalf. shit talking on the internet is fun till someone gets hurt!

dreadkill said:

yea, just like how I'm surprised that Kenny Lanning and Joe Christiani hasn't began their extermination of all those who contributed to their ridiculing here. With that said, Tom must have a pretty hard head because for those of us who have seen Senseless Mutilation or have played with them you'd see that the singer counts off every song by smacking his mic off his head.....

the_reverend said:

Tom cruise was also wearing tina turner armor. and satan had testicles on his chin.

I don't know, I think a lot of shit-talking on the internet is really a reflection of one's actual feelings, unmarred by the inhibition of actually saying it to someone's face. Except you are actually writing it down and leaving a 'paper trail'. What I'm confused about, is why did the guy do it if Tom DIDN'T talk shit about him? Was he misinformed? And if it wasn't something said on a message board, etc., why write about it here and then cite that you are going to lay off the message boards? Doesn't quite add up for me, we don't know all the facts and probably will never hear the other side of the story. That said, no-one really deserves to be attacked over internet slander, I hope Tom is alright and it gets straightened out.

PS: Alex definitely likes death metal, otherwise he wouldn't spin it at his shows.

tom are you all right?

DrinkHardThrashHard said:

Either he was misinformed or he thought I was one of his ex-girlfriends, my hair is decieving. I didn't say I was going to lay off message boards as a whole, I wanted to point out that I have in fact layed off most of all the drama here and will continue to do so because before you know it, someone takes something in the wrong context, then that person tells someone else but adds on another sentence and by the time it reaches the last person it's a completely different story. I'm am done with it, it's not worth it. So if Doug's point in this was to give me a wake up call to stop internet 'shit talking' it's too late, I already have.

Well, aside from Josh and I's heated arguments which I have enjoyed in the past.

inject-now said:

That dude looks like a fucking terrorist.

dyingmuse said:

yeah man, I'm alright, thanks for asking. Just a bit of a bruise in between my eyes.. All I want is to talk to him about it but he hasn't called me back yet. Did he lose his cell/is he not home or something?

RustedAngel said:

Ha!

RustedAngel said:


Amen.

i called him too, and no answer

hope they made it home ok


we did drink till 930 am and they were all cocked when they drove home

dreadkill said:

lololololololol

ha

this thread has become what it was supposed to be against.

If someone started a thread about Rice Krispies, it would probably contain arguments, and at least one death threat. You know how it goes around here.

i'll jump into that one, steve tucker owns david vincent's ass. *badly dubbed accent* you wanna fight, fight me!

I'm just glad I got to post the lyrics to Careless Whisper

nevermind

got a problem with George Michael?

I love how this turned into shit talking about rttp:

Wow Tom, I'm sorry to hear that. What the fuck is the matter with people? I left the RttP board last year because I started to feel like I was back in high school. I've never, ever in my life encountered so many close-minded, ignorant people in one place, than on that board. I started my zine and booking shows as a fun thing to do, but never realized there would be so many politics within the "scene." It was disappointing, at best, and that's why I don't care to be associated with that board anymore either.

Anyway, you know all this already and I'm just venting. I hope you're OK. xo.

Posted by Jessica on Monday, April 10, 2006 at 10:20 AM

bro the RttP forum is mad gay. i'm glad you don't post there anymore because it means that you know it's not worth the pissing contest. hope to talk to you soon.

Posted by DannyP! on Monday, April 10, 2006 at 11:20 AM

anonymous said:

and so are the "Days Of Our Lives"...

Well, as far as I'm concerned, it sucks that the shit happened. I gotta say, aside from all of this....I'd STILL like to headbutt Josh Martins chin into his fucking neck, and Doug is what I would consider a dear friend of mine, so I can't get on his case. Tom is also a friend of mine, and before I got to know him, I wanted to headbutt his chin into his neck too.

All this aside....let it go. It was a metal moment.

No need for any more sensitivity. Shit happens, and you Tom will laugh about it one day. I've had my head beat in plenty of times. Hated it at the time, was embarrassed, but it happens. Hope you feel better, man.

anonymous said:

wow...
yes there are crap talkers on here...but what does hating on rttp have to do with what happened?

RTTP turns people into headbutters. I'm contacting my attorney.

with out a doubt

I clearly have an excellent case.

anonymous said:

I can't speak for them but it looks like they are just not faund of the forum not RTTP as a whole. There's definitely a lot more to this site than the forum which I'm sure people who dislike the forum can appreciate.

yeah once again an anonymous homo has tried to stir up shit

the rev will tell you firsthand my undying affection for him and this site. that being said, i steer clear from the forum as much as possible.

everytime I start to hate this forum I think, "At least it's not lambgoat"

Everytime I start to hate this forum I realize I actually only hate myself. Then I burn myself with lit cigars.

I have to say that although at times when my opinions have been at odds with BornSoVile, that doesn't by any means make me want to fight him. Id like to think that, despite our diffences in opinions, shall we cross paths anytime in the near future we will be more apt to matchin out on a bowl than throwin down.

hoser said:

I'll smoke to that HTB.

I am surprised Troll has not seen this thread, since essentially it turned into a thread about his band

Doug from Senseless did this, no shit... that's a surprise to me, he was always nice to me whenever I worked with them. Plus, he seemed to be the kind of dude who channelled all his anger out onstage... I guess not. I'm almost tempted to call him myself about this, this is childish drunken bullshit that benefits no one.

As far as Shroud being called unicorn metal, that only works if you believe that unicorns went extinct from depression.

ShadowSD said:

Same here man, I'm still waiting for him to call me. Hopefully today.

brian_dc said:

hah!

The correct term is Fairy Metal, as I use to describe Nightwish. But I guess since Unicorns are associated with fairiekind, elves, etc, that works. But Unicorns are phallic contrasts to the virgins who ride them...

RichHorror said:

I agree

I'm a keen judge of character.

HILLARIOUS!! so some dude just walked up to Tom and smashed in his face with his head...thats fucking ballzy dude!!
no offense Tom ive set aside any past problems with you, but dude people getting hit in the face is hillarious and a headbutt!! priceless......

he looks like the dude from System of a Down

You mean syndrome of a downz. ho hah.

Oh well! Shit happens...

anonymous said:
exactly

Yeti said:


EXACTLY what I thought.

the weird thing is that this:
http://www.returntothepit.com/view.php?formid=24745
is the only time that doug says something to "Tom", but the "Tom" that he says something to wasn't posted by Tom (as in rustedangel).

the_reverend said:


ATTN: Doug / Senseless

The Rev found this thread where you seem to think I am the Anonymous poster talking shit about senseless...Well as you can see from the above post, Rev can confirm that IT WAS NOT ME.

http://www.returntothepit.com/view.php?formid=24745

Now you know everyone, you can't believe everything you say / hear on the internet. Next time maybe try talking to someone before causing physical harm to them...An apology would be nice, but I don't expect one. I still wouldn't mind chatting with you on the phone so feel free to give me a call. If not, have a nice life, and good luck to you and the rest of the band. Later.

Oh snizz!

I am not sympathetic to either side.
I dont know whats funnier, the fact that Tom denies talkin smack online, or Doug headbutting someone no larger than a 12 year old chick.

powerkok said:HAHAHHAAAA oh man thats awesome

powerkok said:

Kok, I never denied talking shit online, 98% of the people here do it all the time. The point is I haven't talked shit about Doug/Senseless and if you had read my previous post you'd see an example.

ever think though Tom maybe someone just saw you talking so much shit they were just sick of reading it and took it upon themselves to do something about it. i mean be glad you only got a headbutt he could have decked you.

this is in no way cool or anything, it is funny. after about a week id think so too but man c'mon i fully expect someone to attack me at somepoint and why i carry weapondary with me at all times.

i got some goodstuff from vabeach when i was down there two weeks ago.

is it +3 against orcs?

RustedAngel said:


Im sure, but I know you, and maybe you didnt talk smack then, in that exact post, but you gotta admit, that ya do it a bit !!

Dont take that the wrong way either, I have no probs with you, but you hadda see/feel this comin, no?
Not sayin u deserved it man....

the_reverend said:

dood black lotus all the way

whiskey_weed_and_women said:

dude, if you read the things I've said already you'd know that I HAVEN'T been talking anything negative for a while now. I'm suprised you haven't simply noticed.

Someone I know has talked to him and he was pissed at something I said online about senseless, that being one/if only most recent incident only he thought it was me, but it wasn't.

god damn, I am hating this forum more than ever now.

naw lately i havent really even seen you on here, but i just meant in general.

drunk people are weird folks and at that point it might have hit, but you seem to already seem to know what this is about.

RustedAngel said:


oh c'mon now cheer up buddy. hmm hmm you wanna soooooooda

RustedAngel said:

welcome to my world. It sucks when everyone seems to disagree with you and wont listen to reason.

powerkok said:

No, I did not see this coming from him or anyone in his band because I've never had a problem with them. The couple times we've played with them I thought they were brutal shit, especially that Milly's show we all played.

That was a memorable show...I poured a 22oz draft down Boozey's ass crack.

what a waste!

Troll said:

that's alcohol abuse HAHAHA

bump for headbutted off the internet

bennyhillifier

This is important, I think. The intertard blows things way out of proportion, and every single part of it can be faked.

Good necropost.

I think you need to make that clearer:

No personal attacks.

People are going to be offended by truthful statements, and you wouldn't say them to their faces, but need to say them anyway.

It's when people shit-talk about each other on a personal level that it gets gay.

or when someone headbutts the wrong Tom

wow way to dig up an oldie, lol... someone was bored :-/