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returntothepit >> discuss >> site's slow? blame yahoo! by the_reverend on Feb 26,2006 3:12am
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toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Feb 26,2006 3:12am
YahooSeeker 1.2 is killing th server.

68.142.230.190 - - [26/Feb/2006:03:10:08 -0500] "GET /view.php?formid=2830 HTTP/1.0" 200 7 "-" "YahooSeeker/1.2 (compatible; Mozilla 4.0; MSIE 5.5; yahooseeker at yahoo-inc dot com ; http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/shop/merchant/)"
68.142.230.202 - - [26/Feb/2006:03:10:09 -0500] "GET /postreply.php?formid=21663&replyid=308322 HTTP/1.0" 200 7 "-" "YahooSeeker/1.2 (compatible; Mozilla 4.0; MSIE 5.5; yahooseeker at yahoo-inc dot com ; http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/shop/merchant/)"
68.142.230.194 - - [26/Feb/2006:03:10:09 -0500] "GET /band.php?band=dour_cursiva HTTP/1.0" 200 7 "-" "YahooSeeker/1.2 (compatible; Mozilla 4.0; MSIE 5.5; yahooseeker at yahoo-inc dot com ; http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/shop/merchant/)"
68.142.230.201 - - [26/Feb/2006:03:10:09 -0500] "GET /postreply.php?formid=16033&replyid=251074 HTTP/1.0" 200 7 "-" "YahooSeeker/1.2 (compatible; Mozilla 4.0; MSIE 5.5; yahooseeker at yahoo-inc dot com ; http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/shop/merchant/)"
68.142.230.186 - - [26/Feb/2006:03:10:09 -0500] "GET /view.php?formid=11689 HTTP/1.0" 200 27854 "-" "YahooSeeker/1.2 (compatible; Mozilla 4.0; MSIE 5.5; yahooseeker at yahoo-inc dot com ; http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/shop/merchant/)"

I started blocking them.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Feb 26,2006 3:26am
grrr... I've banned like 30 ips from them. and they are hitting the site at like 30/second!



toggletoggle post by Jonahnli at Feb 26,2006 10:37am
yahoo is haxing ur shit noob



toggletoggle post by Joe/NotCommon   at Feb 26,2006 10:46am
Is this their search engine spiders or whatever they call those things?



toggletoggle post by infoterror  at Feb 26,2006 5:57pm
DO YOU HAVE ROBOTS.TXT?
IF SO, YAHOO SHOULD GO PICK COTTON.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Feb 26,2006 6:10pm
yahooseeker1.2 reads robots.txt and then doesn't pay attention to it.



toggletoggle post by retzam at Feb 26,2006 7:53pm
What is yahooseeker 1.2 exactly?



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Feb 26,2006 8:54pm
its a spider for yahoo.com
so far this month, they have downloaded over 17GB from rttp



toggletoggle post by infoterror  at Feb 26,2006 9:22pm
the_reverend said:
yahooseeker1.2 reads robots.txt and then doesn't pay attention to it.



WELL
I AM NOT ONE TO BE TALKING ABOUT BAD NETIQUETTE
BUT
SURELY THEIR BEHAVIOR QUALIFIES?

OBVIOUSLY COMMUNISTS CONTROL YAHOO
ALERT Z.O.G.



toggletoggle post by contagion   at Feb 26,2006 9:58pm
Jonahnli said:
yahoo is haxing ur shit noob
that made me laugh




toggletoggle post by ArrowHead nli at Feb 27,2006 11:10am
That's pretty sketchy. Why would a spider be downloading that much? Try emailing a copy of your log to yahoo support, see if there's anything they can do about it.

This just furthers my opinion that anything yahoo blows.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Feb 27,2006 11:49am
I just looked and added up ALL the yahoo spiders and they downloaded over 59GB this month.
damn.
google's only 11GB.



toggletoggle post by DreamingInExile   at Feb 27,2006 12:01pm
wow, at any rate, that's a shitload of bandwidth to have leeched by a spider...

even google's 11GB is a lot.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Feb 27,2006 12:15pm
yeah, but I really don't mind the googling. they are more of a trickle. the yahoo one ate dick and I blocked their ips.



toggletoggle post by pam   at Feb 27,2006 2:03pm
I don't understand a word of this thread, but Fuck Yahoo.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Mar 1,2006 9:47am
they killed it again today.



toggletoggle post by paganmegan   at Mar 1,2006 9:51am
pam said:
I don't understand a word of this thread, but Fuck Yahoo.





toggletoggle post by litacore   at Mar 1,2006 10:07am
I miss those yahoo TV commercials.

they should film a new one where they assist the Chinese government to throw dissidents in jail



toggletoggle post by Arthur_ATD   at Mar 1,2006 10:18am
i don't understand much of this, but i do know that those spiders suck, i couldn't even get in this morning.



toggletoggle post by succubus  at Mar 1,2006 10:19am
yeah it even temporarily "paused" our emails...sucks!!!



toggletoggle post by DreamingInExile   at Mar 1,2006 10:20am
yeah, Yahoo just raped all accessable bandwidth. have you sent yahoo hate mail yet? I can understand a little here and there, but for how slow (or non existant) the site was running this morning, it felt like they raped and pillaged your bandwidth



toggletoggle post by Arthur_ATD   at Mar 1,2006 10:24am
DreamingInExile said:
for how slow (or non existant) the site was running this morning, it felt like they raped and pillaged your bandwidth
they more than raped and pillaged, they flat out fucked the bandwith in the ass to the sweet beat of elton john




toggletoggle post by hoser at Mar 1,2006 10:27am
I don't understand any of this.......spiders or whatever. But....is that legal? Seeing as you pay for the hosting and all....how is it that they can scum your bandwidth like that?



toggletoggle post by pisscup at Mar 1,2006 10:45am
how do we get back at them?



toggletoggle post by MetalcoreSUCKS at Mar 1,2006 11:48am
What was up with this site earlier this morning? I couldnt get it to come up on my computer.Server problems maybe?



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Mar 1,2006 12:02pm
I am the server.
they was escentially DoS the site.
2-3 server requests a second is a little much, no?



toggletoggle post by DreamingInExile   at Mar 1,2006 12:07pm
the_reverend said:
2-3 server requests a second is a little much, no?


yeah, definately... I say we get a shit ton of people to ping flood yahoo, with large packets



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Mar 1,2006 12:20pm
ahahahaha, your funny.
1) packet of death's are fixed in 99% of ip stacks out there (unless you are hitting a win95 machine and I believe yahoo runs on FreeBSD which I don't think ever died from PODs)
2) attacking yahoo is like trying to blow over the empire state building.

their servers are the biggest hubs in the country.

they load balance in a ton of different place in the coutry with clustered hubs. cut out al lthe conections going over the mississippi and you will still have yahoo on either side of the country.

most of the traffic (especially in this area of the country) actually goes through switches/center hubs/fiber that they own.

they also deploy adaptive IDS solutions which actually scans incoming connections to see what they want and then figure out it it's valid and looks for some server that isn't too busy.

in the end, they would never see your "attack" and the only thing that could come out of it would be possible legal troubles for you.



toggletoggle post by raped and pillaged at Mar 1,2006 12:38pm
this is worse than prison rape (and I should know) ;)
there nothing that anyone can do?



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Mar 1,2006 12:38pm
not really.
I'm blocking them anyhow.



toggletoggle post by pisscup at Mar 1,2006 12:53pm
the_reverend said:
not really.
I'm blocking them anyhow.



can you totally and completely block them?



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Mar 1,2006 1:12pm
I just block out their ips from the site in my code.
it makes them make a lot more rquests faster, but since the requests aren't doing more than printing "die now" to them, it's all good.



toggletoggle post by MetalcoreSUCKS at Mar 1,2006 1:13pm
the_reverend said:
I am the server.
they was escentially DoS the site.
2-3 server requests a second is a little much, no?



I have nt idea what DoS is




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