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returntothepit >> discuss >> New England Metal and Hardcore Festival '06 by the_reverend on Feb 22,2006 3:07pm
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toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Feb 22,2006 3:07pm
New England Metal and Hardcore Festival '06

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

FEBRUARY 22, 2006



ESP Guitars and Krank Amps present
8th Annual New England Metal And Hardcore Festival
Friday April 28, Saturday April 29 and Sunday April 30

The Palladium - 261 Main St. - Worcester, MA
MassConcerts is proud to announce that the New England Metal & Hardcore Festival will return once again to the Palladium in Worcester, Mass., on Friday April 28, Saturday April 29 and Sunday April 30. Friday tickets are $35.00; Saturday and Sunday individual day tickets are $40.00. Three-day passes are $109.50. Tickets go on sale this Friday, February 24 at 10:00am at all Strawberries Record Stores, online at tickets.com, or by calling tickets.com at (800) 477-6849.

Proclaimed in past years as one of the best American festivals focusing on heavy music, the three-day show will host numerous metal, hardcore, and metalcore bands along with a jam-packed vendor area where fans can purchase hard-to-find CDs, t-shirts, and other music merchandise. ESP Guitars will be giving away guitars and Krank Amps will be giving away amps and even a half stack. These two great companies will also be bringing you up close and personal with some of the bands they endorse - so as we get closer to fest we will have schedule of artist signings and other surprises. "If you decide to go to only one fest this year, this should be it," says Revolver Magazine and MetalJudgment.com calls it "...hands down, the best metal fest in the world."

The show will once again take place on two stages at The Palladium. Bands that have already been confirmed for the festival are: Lacuna Coil, Gamma Ray, DragonForce (first time EVER in America!), Arch Enemy, Chimaira, The Black Dahlia Murder, Bullet For My Valentine, Exodus, Cryptopsy, 100 Demons, A Perfect Murder, Alarum, Arsis, Bloodline Calligraphy, Bronx Casket Company, Byzantine, Caliban, Cattle Decapitation, Colin Of Arabia, Damnation AD, Dead To Fall, Death Threat, Demiricous, Dying Eyes Bleed, Ed Gein, Embrace The End, Folly, Full Blown Chaos, Goat Horn, God Forbid, Hate Eternal, Horse The Band, Hypersolid, If Hope Dies, Immolation, Inked In Blood, Into Eternity, Ion Dissonance, Ligeia, Losa, Mercury Switch, Necrophagist, Neuraxis, Nodes Of Ranvier, On Broken Wings, Protest The Hero, Ramallah, Righteous Jams, Ringworm, Sanctity, Scars Of Tomorrow, Second Story Window, Shoot To Kill, Since The Flood, Skinless, Still Remains, Suffocation, Sworn Enemy, The Acacia Strain, The Absence, The Classic Struggle, The Miles Between, Torn Assunder, Trouble, Twelve Tribes, Who Killed The Promo Queen, Wolf, xDEATHSTARx, and xLOOKINGFORWARDx.

More bands will be announced in the coming weeks. Talent is subject to change.

"We’ve been extremely happy with how this festival has grown over the years," said MassConcerts Booking Agent and festival co-founder Scott Lee, "and this year the lineup is one of the most varied yet - a great mixture of different styles of bands."



The 8th Annual New England Metal and Hardcore Festival is brought to you by ESP Guitars and Krank Amps, teaming up to present the festival this year; Prosthetic Records, which is sponsoring the 2nd Stage upstairs, Revolver Magazine our exclusive magazine partner and creator of the official event program, Facedown Records which is sponsoring our street marketing efforts, FUSE TV, Mazur PR and The Syndicate. Vendors this year include Century Media, Trustkill, Eulogy/Hand of Hope, Metal Blade, Red Rocket Records, and many others.


Informational and Related Links
Bands:

Lacuna Coil,

Gamma Ray,

Dragonforce,

Arch Enemy,

Chimaira,

The Black Dahlia Murder,

Bullet For My Valentine,

Exodus,

Cryptopsy,

100 Demons,

A Perfect Murder,

Alarum,

Arsis,

Bronx Casket Co,

Byzantine,

Caliban,

Cattle Decapitation,

Colin Of Arabia,

Damnation Ad,

Dead To Fall,

Death Threat,

Demiricous,

Ed Gein,

Embrace The End,

Folly,

Full Blown Chaos,

Goat Horn,

God Forbid,

Hate Eternal,

Horse The Band,

Hypersolid,

If Hope Dies,

Immolation,

Inked In Blood,

Into Eternity,

Ion Dissonance,

Ligeia,

Mercury Switch,

Necrophagist,

Neuraxis,

Nodes Of Ranvier,

On Broken Wings,

Protest The Hero,

Ramallah,

Righteous Jams,

Ringworm,

Sanctity,

Scars Of Tomorrow,

Shoot To Kill,

Since The Flood,

Skinless,

Still Remains,

Suffocation,

Sworn Enemy,

The Acacia Strain,

The Absence,

The Miles Between,

Trouble,

Twelve Tribes,

Wolf,

Xdeathstarx



toggletoggle post by whiskey_weed_and_women  at Feb 22,2006 3:12pm
Cryptopsy, Cattle Decapitation, Colin Of Arabia, Death Threat, Ion Dissonance, Neuraxis, Ramallah, Righteous Jams, Since The Flood, Suffocation

if i get my pass ill go but otherwise all the bands i wanna see i can see at small clubs for like 5 - 7 bucks



toggletoggle post by whiskey_weed_and_women  at Feb 22,2006 3:13pm
oh and im actually amazed burn in silence hasnt been listed



toggletoggle post by Y_Ddraig_Goch  at Feb 22,2006 3:14pm
And thus I will be only going for three bands again.

Gamma Ray, Dragonforce, and Into Eternity.

Is it me or does this thing become more and more medicore Metalcore from down the street each year.



toggletoggle post by succubus  at Feb 22,2006 3:14pm
http://www.massconcerts.com/graphics/defyunlearnblackwebbanner.gif

my favorite part of the email was the bottom =)



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Feb 22,2006 3:16pm
oh, I got it from another company before from massconcerts.



toggletoggle post by horror_tang NLI at Feb 22,2006 3:19pm
Wow, not that I am going, but can you put tickets on layaway or do they have some sort of financing program.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Feb 22,2006 3:24pm
SHUT UP RICH!



toggletoggle post by BornSoVile   at Feb 22,2006 3:25pm
holy shit, 3 day pass = 109.50!!!!



toggletoggle post by KeithMutiny  at Feb 22,2006 3:29pm
waste of money.

when are people gonna smarten up and stop feeding into this fucking bullshit.

Anyone who pays that obscene amount of money deserves nothing less than immediate death.



toggletoggle post by Yeti at Feb 22,2006 3:30pm
109.50????? is that a joke????? what the fuck happened to this festival? this used to be THE festival. of course now it becomes a money grubbing crap fest



toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Feb 22,2006 3:32pm
KeithMutiny said:
waste of money.

when are people gonna smarten up and stop feeding into this fucking bullshit.

Anyone who pays that obscene amount of money deserves nothing less than immediate death.


Well, more people feed into ozzfest and their bill's are shittier and it's about the same price for 1 day and less bands. Even if no one from RTTP went to this fest it probably wouldn't put much of a dent into attendance.



toggletoggle post by KeithMutiny  at Feb 22,2006 3:33pm
RustedAngel said:
KeithMutiny said:
waste of money.

when are people gonna smarten up and stop feeding into this fucking bullshit.

Anyone who pays that obscene amount of money deserves nothing less than immediate death.


Well, more people feed into ozzfest and their bill's are shittier and it's about the same price for 1 day and less bands. Even if no one from RTTP went to this fest it probably wouldn't put much of a dent into attendance.



oh belive me, i completely agree with that statement.



toggletoggle post by KeithMutiny  at Feb 22,2006 3:36pm
I belive a protest, of sorts, is in order.

If/When any such campaign happens, its not directed towards any of the musicians playing, be it most of them suck, thats not the issue.

not that anyone cares what i have to say, but i think this is completely out of hand.



toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Feb 22,2006 3:37pm
Yeti said:
109.50????? is that a joke????? what the fuck happened to this festival? this used to be THE festival. of course now it becomes a money grubbing crap fest


well, there are way more bands playing now hence why it's become a 3 day festival. I don't think I'm going to go unless I can get myself on the list again



toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Feb 22,2006 3:39pm
I was hoping to get the band onto this clusterfuck this year but it's looking like another "you have to be signed, or friends with scott lee deal" once again.



toggletoggle post by KeithMutiny  at Feb 22,2006 3:40pm
sabotage!



toggletoggle post by BornSoVile   at Feb 22,2006 3:45pm
i just wanna see that necrophagist tour and the cryptopsy tour. that's it. hopefully it can be on one day or two days. perhaps i'll just go to saratoga if worse comes to worse.



toggletoggle post by KeithMutiny  at Feb 22,2006 3:47pm
maybe there will be a providence date for all of the above.



toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Feb 22,2006 3:47pm
I heard Kenny Lanning is putting on the fest this year.



toggletoggle post by BornSoVile   at Feb 22,2006 3:49pm
i doubt it cause the dates are already released, plus i wouldn't be surprised if contractually they can't play within 50 miles of worcester or something like that. maybe that's why cryptopsy worked in manch vegas last year.



toggletoggle post by BornSoVile   at Feb 22,2006 3:49pm
Tom, this a *cyber noogie* for you ; )



toggletoggle post by DrinkHardThrashHard  at Feb 22,2006 3:50pm
Gah, I think I'm going to pass on this. As much as I'd love to see Gamma Ray and Goat Horn, the rest of the lineup is basically metalcore 101 and a bunch of the tech death stuff that is also popular with the same crowd (not that I don't like Neuraxis, Cryptopsy etc myself).



toggletoggle post by kessaris   at Feb 22,2006 3:57pm
Dragonforce, Necrophagist, Suffocation, Exodus...okay I guess I'll go this year



toggletoggle post by DrinkHardThrashHard  at Feb 22,2006 4:36pm
Crap, I just read back over the list and realized Wolf and Trouble are playing....now the temptation is growing.



toggletoggle post by ninkaszi at Feb 22,2006 4:42pm
Gamma Ray, Exodus, Cryptopsy, Cattle Decapitation, Colin Of Arabia, Goat Horn, Hate Eternal, Immolation, Necrophagist, Neuraxis, Ramallah, Righteous Jams, Ringworm, Suffocation, Trouble.

these are the only bands i have any interest in watching and i am sure they will be spread out through the three days. i probably wont be there unless i sneak in.



toggletoggle post by KeithMutiny  at Feb 22,2006 4:44pm
i heard theres already a myspace group for it this year...



toggletoggle post by RichHorror  at Feb 22,2006 4:45pm
the_reverend said:
SHUT UP RICH!


...



toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Feb 22,2006 5:35pm
so far i am not going. they have to add some of my favorite bands to get me there this year. there's a small handful of bands that i want to see, but i've seen most of them already.



toggletoggle post by KeithMutiny  at Feb 22,2006 5:38pm



toggletoggle post by diamond_dave  at Feb 22,2006 5:42pm
am i way out of touch or something? i have never heard of most of these bands.



toggletoggle post by BlackoutRick at Feb 22,2006 6:01pm
Holy Shit!!! TROUBLE!!! YYYYYYYYYEEEESSS!!! Righteous Jams, Neuraxis, and Byzantine are the only others I would see. Where's Glass Casket?



toggletoggle post by Josh_hates_you  at Feb 22,2006 6:16pm
wow, 6 bands i like and a whole lotta gay.



toggletoggle post by mcmahon  at Feb 22,2006 6:21pm
i'm gonna go.

fuck it, few less beers a night til then will be worth it.



toggletoggle post by BobNOMAAMRooney nli at Feb 22,2006 6:40pm
Are Arch Enemy bolted to the Palladium floor?



toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Feb 22,2006 6:44pm
BobNOMAAMRooney nli said:
Are Arch Enemy bolted to the Palladium floor?


ha



toggletoggle post by pisscup at Feb 22,2006 7:23pm
only $55 for this -

DISMEMBER - SWEDEN
VITAL REMAINS - RHODE ISLAND
HAEMORRHAGE - SPAIN
PUNGENT STENCH - AUSTRIA
NECROPHAGIST - GERMANY
DEMILICH - FINLAND
UNHOLY GRAVE - JAPAN
MACHETAZO - SPAIN
BUTCHER ABC - JAPAN
DISFEAR - SWEDEN
SEVERE TORTURE - NETHERLANDS
ANATA - SWEDEN
SANITYS DAWN - GERMANY
ROMPEPROP - NETHERLANDS
CLITEATER - NETHERLANDS
SKINLESS - NEW YORK
GORGASM - ILLINOIS
EMBALMER - OHIO
YACOEPSAE - GERMANY
WTN - SINGAPORE
ENGORGED - OREGON
BURNT BY THE SUN - NEW JERSEY
MUNICIPAL WASTE - VIRGINIA
CENOTAPH - TURKEY
MUCUPURULENT - GERMANY
TOTAL FUCKING DESTRUCTION - PESNNSYLVANIA
MESRINE - CANADA
CATHETER - COLORADO
BENEATH THE MASSACRE - CANADA
ELECTRO QUARTERSTAFF - CANADA
QUILLS - MARYLAND
EMBRYONIC CRYPTOPATHIA - MASSACHUSETTS



toggletoggle post by contagion   at Feb 22,2006 7:35pm
pisscup said:
only $55 for this -

DISMEMBER - SWEDEN
VITAL REMAINS - RHODE ISLAND
HAEMORRHAGE - SPAIN
PUNGENT STENCH - AUSTRIA
NECROPHAGIST - GERMANY
DEMILICH - FINLAND
UNHOLY GRAVE - JAPAN
MACHETAZO - SPAIN
BUTCHER ABC - JAPAN
DISFEAR - SWEDEN
SEVERE TORTURE - NETHERLANDS
ANATA - SWEDEN
SANITYS DAWN - GERMANY
ROMPEPROP - NETHERLANDS
CLITEATER - NETHERLANDS
SKINLESS - NEW YORK
GORGASM - ILLINOIS
EMBALMER - OHIO
YACOEPSAE - GERMANY
WTN - SINGAPORE
ENGORGED - OREGON
BURNT BY THE SUN - NEW JERSEY
MUNICIPAL WASTE - VIRGINIA
CENOTAPH - TURKEY
MUCUPURULENT - GERMANY
TOTAL FUCKING DESTRUCTION - PESNNSYLVANIA
MESRINE - CANADA
CATHETER - COLORADO
BENEATH THE MASSACRE - CANADA
ELECTRO QUARTERSTAFF - CANADA
QUILLS - MARYLAND
EMBRYONIC CRYPTOPATHIA - MASSACHUSETTS
maryland death fest. the illest fest ever.




toggletoggle post by HailTheLeaf  at Feb 22,2006 7:41pm edited Feb 22,2006 7:42pm
wow, 2 bands I'd want to see, and they've both been around for over 20 years...gayest line-up ever.



toggletoggle post by swamplorddvm  at Feb 22,2006 7:47pm
Necrophagist, Cryptopsy, Exodus and BULLET FOR MY VALETINE!!! WOOOOOOOO!!!



toggletoggle post by Photo Guy at Feb 22,2006 8:13pm
2 bands that I'd like to see: Lacuna Coil and Exodus. Seen both before. (Exodus in 1990, TYVM - Pantera, Exodus and Suicidal Tendencies at The Channel in Boston.) The rest of the lineup I honestly couldn't care less about. $109.50 for two bands is a pretty shitty return on a pretty hefty investment. I'll pass, thanks.



toggletoggle post by pam nli at Feb 22,2006 9:36pm
I think I'm all set this year. I'm not even going to try getting a photo pass. I'd love to see Exodus but not at the expense of sitting through all that shit.

I'm mailing in a demo tomorrow just to say I tried, however. Too bad, I do like going at least one day to this fest, but there's just no way this year. First year I've stayed home, ever. It's overpriced, 90% metalcore, and the fest is too fucking big for the palladium. If you're going to rip people off, you should at least allow them 3 inches of breathing space while inside. You can't even get to the upstairs bands. Plus, that many smelly mod kids in one tiny building? Grrrross.



toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Feb 22,2006 10:17pm
exactly



toggletoggle post by mOe nli at Feb 22,2006 10:39pm
yea, this fest is definitly a better lineup this year, but i doubt i'm goin three days....gettin too old and too broke for that
i'll most likely just go on the day FASSW plays and be done with it

p.s. Premonitions of War needs to play this



toggletoggle post by MetalcoreSUCKS at Feb 22,2006 10:56pm
swamplorddvm said:
Necrophagist, Cryptopsy, Exodus and BULLET FOR MY VALETINE!!! WOOOOOOOO!!!



Id rather save my $$ and go see Exodus when they play at Marks showpalace on May 1st instead.Fuck this SHITFEST!!!!!



toggletoggle post by chris_from_shit_fuck  at Feb 22,2006 11:17pm
Exodus, Cattle Decapitation, Suffocation, Black Dahlia Murder are the only bands I want to see right now. That's not enough to justify the ticket price, especially if the bands aren't all playing the same day.



toggletoggle post by retzam at Feb 23,2006 12:02am
I'll go the day Dragonforce are playing, and I heard that they are headlining Sunday, so if true, I hope they put together a good line up for Sunday.



toggletoggle post by davefromthegrave  at Feb 23,2006 12:11am
there's always one band each day that I actually want to see, and a ton of horseshit metalcore bands.

the nemhf is starting to piss me off.



toggletoggle post by Y_Ddraig_Goch  at Feb 23,2006 3:04am
Let's burn scott lee til he signs good bands, and or try to raise money for a real new England metalfest.

Sunday is ussually the only day worth going. I hope that dragonforce, Gamma Ray, and Into Eternity all play on one day, so far that is all I want to see.



toggletoggle post by i_am_not_me   at Feb 23,2006 3:08am
Dragonforce...on Sunday...of course.


I'm demanding that Sunday off this year. Or I'm closing the store the second I get to work.



toggletoggle post by i_am_not_me   at Feb 23,2006 3:13am
Dragonforce...on Sunday...of course.


I'm demanding that Sunday off this year. Or I'm closing the store the second I get to work.


HOLY SHIT...DID I SEE TROUBLE MENTIONED?! Okay...the shitcore bands are DEFINITELY worth putting up with...for fucking Trouble, and Dragonforce, and Gamma Ray, and Exodus, and Cryptopsy, and Neuraxis, and Into Eternity, and Suffocation, and Immolation, and Necrophagist, and Arsis, and Byzantine...



toggletoggle post by i_am_not_me   at Feb 23,2006 3:47am
...and is that Wolf the Swedish Wolf? God damn, that would fucking own. I was OBSESSED with them back when Black Wings came out. I listened to Venom a fucking billion times.



toggletoggle post by DrinkHardThrashHard  at Feb 23,2006 9:18am
I'm pretty sure it's the Swedish Wolf. Maybe they're on tour with Gamma Ray.



toggletoggle post by Joe/NotCommon   at Feb 23,2006 9:29am
It's cool Arsis is playing.



toggletoggle post by mark fucking richards at Feb 23,2006 12:33pm
there are a lot more bands i'd like to see on this year's fest than last year, a few of which i do not want to miss, but if the good bands are spread throughout all 3 days and i can't afford it, i'll suck it up and just save all my money for MDF.



toggletoggle post by Justice ACR at Feb 23,2006 12:48pm
Lacuna Coil, Arch Enemy, Exodus, Cryptopsy, Alarum, God Forbid, Hate Eternal, Into Eternity, Necrophagist, Ramallah there are the only bands that id want to see, and ive already seen most of them many times, i dont think its worth it



toggletoggle post by pam nli at Feb 23,2006 1:42pm
Wolf rules. I've seen them though. Same with Lacuna Coil, Into Eternity AND Trouble...so I'm still not going. Plus Into Eternity is SO disappointing live, their new singer is a schmo.

Exodus is still the only seller for me.



toggletoggle post by pam nli at Feb 23,2006 1:44pm
I don't see which bands are playing on which days...where are you guys seeing that?



toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Feb 23,2006 1:49pm
i would go to this if tom jones headlined.



toggletoggle post by KeithMutiny  at Feb 23,2006 1:51pm edited Feb 23,2006 1:51pm



toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Feb 23,2006 2:53pm edited Feb 23,2006 2:58pm
KeithMutiny said:

hahah oh, come on keith, just don't go.

I gotta say you cannot see 90% of the bands on this fest for 5-7 dollars locally like you stated. It's a festival and there are 75+ bands but probably will be close to 100 by the time the full lineup is announced. So you figure around 30 bands per day. Other shows with just 4-5 bands can be $10-15. So by your standards lets say it's $7 to see 4 bands, well multiply the amount of bands by 8 = 32. So then 8 x $7 would come out to $56 if you were charging $7 per 4 bands...$56 x 3 days = $168. So by the amount of bands on this fest, $109 is actually cheaper than you would charge

p.s. I do think that $110 is a lot for 3 days of shows, but I'm not going to go on strike or something. You gotta figure a lot of these bands are probably getting paid in the thousands to play.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Feb 23,2006 2:56pm
now that is funny



toggletoggle post by MetalcoreSUCKS at Feb 23,2006 3:14pm
They need more Death Metal/less Metalcore bands on this fest to make it more interesting.Until that happens I wont go to these Shitfests.



toggletoggle post by KeithMutiny  at Feb 23,2006 3:15pm
thats ok, you can support big buisness.

kill the little guy, right?

capitalism at its finest, god bless america!!!!

SELL EVERYTHING!!!! WOOOO HOOO!!!!



toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Feb 23,2006 3:21pm
KeithMutiny said:
thats ok, you can support big buisness.

kill the little guy, right?

capitalism at its finest, god bless america!!!!

SELL EVERYTHING!!!! WOOOO HOOO!!!!


like I said, I'm not going unless I can get on a list.

How is this killing a little guy? I don't know of anyone else who has the capability or capacity to hold such a fest in the tri-state area. I can't imagine scott lee makes much money.



toggletoggle post by KeithMutiny  at Feb 23,2006 3:32pm
RustedAngel said:
I don't know of anyone else who has the capability or capacity to hold such a fest in the tri-state area.


Thats my point, they realise this,

and in turn cornered the market and can set a price wherever they so desire, thats my argument. When is enough going to be enough?





toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Feb 23,2006 3:36pm
KeithMutiny said:


Thats my point, they realise this,

and in turn cornered the market and can set a price wherever they so desire, thats my argument. When is enough going to be enough?



So you're saying if they were charging $7 for a 3 day pass you wouldn't have started an anti-nemhcf myspace group? With that amount of bands, especially national/worldwide acts on it I'm sure it costs more than we think to put something like that on.



toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Feb 23,2006 3:37pm
KeithMutiny said:

When is enough going to be enough?



When it officially sells out.



toggletoggle post by KeithMutiny  at Feb 23,2006 3:41pm
RustedAngel said:
KeithMutiny said:


Thats my point, they realise this,

and in turn cornered the market and can set a price wherever they so desire, thats my argument. When is enough going to be enough?



So you're saying if they were charging $7 for a 3 day pass you wouldn't have started an anti-nemhcf myspace group? With that amount of bands, especially national/worldwide acts on it I'm sure it costs more than we think to put something like that on.


yes, i am saying that. well aware it would cost more than that to run this show, but not what they're asking.




toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Feb 23,2006 3:50pm
KeithMutiny said:


yes, i am saying that. well aware it would cost more than that to run this show, but not what they're asking.



how do you know? how many new england metal & hardcore fests have you put on in your lifetime?



toggletoggle post by BornSoVile   at Feb 23,2006 3:57pm
I can understand boycotting years ago when it really sucked, but there are actually a strong number of bands I want to see. If you want to get more attention to the boycott, just invite some nazis, that's what I did in 03.



toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Feb 23,2006 4:00pm
A myspace group is not going to effect the turnout of this fest. I look at the members of the group already and I don't think I've seen any of them at any previous metalfests.

If you can't afford it, just don't go. Continue seeing localized shows and the larger nationals whenever they come around.

Josh, I remember the Nazi's in 03' you bastard!



toggletoggle post by BornSoVile   at Feb 23,2006 4:01pm
holy shit, i can't believe ATR isn't playing!



toggletoggle post by KeithMutiny  at Feb 23,2006 4:45pm
so, rather than accepting the fact someone would like to change any event to help everyone... youd rather just go oh, o well, and roll over and die?

thats fine.

and josh, you missed the point of my means.

I can very easily afford to go, its the principle.




toggletoggle post by KeithMutiny  at Feb 23,2006 4:48pm
ya and now made aware vendor booths are 1500...

come on, you dont see this as trying to hose people for everything they can get?



toggletoggle post by anonymous? at Feb 23,2006 4:51pm
I heard some jerk named Jeremy is trying to get any band stuff into swag bags for the fest! what a prick he is! who does he think he is! screw him!! Why is he think he is such a nice guy! He's just out for himself .. ! hehe



toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Feb 23,2006 4:52pm
BornSoVile said:
holy shit, i can't believe ATR isn't playing!


i almost shit my pants in shock when i saw they weren't playing. at least all the other bands they sound like will be playing so no one will miss them.



toggletoggle post by anonymous+ at Feb 23,2006 4:53pm
maybe jeremy is the little guy? although i heard he can eat anyone under the table!



toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Feb 23,2006 4:55pm edited Feb 23,2006 10:02pm
KeithMutiny said:
ya and now made aware vendor booths are 1500...

come on, you dont see this as trying to hose people for everything they can get?


dude, it's a business. If the palladium didn't charge for someone to setup a booth there they'd be giving out space for free. (Does your landlord let you live rent free? no Do american legions let you put on shows in their space for free? no) If you're booth is smart then $1500 is NOTHING because you'll make that back and THEN SOME. You think they want a bunch of little weener's who don't know what they're doing taking up space at such a popular event? hellz no.

If you figure 3,000 kids go to metalfest, even if only 300 kids buy cd's from you at $9/ea you're making making your $1500 back plus another $1200 which is a total of $2700.




toggletoggle post by succubus  at Feb 23,2006 4:59pm
KeithMutiny said:

give me a break

look at how many bands are playing


if you're going to bitch what about ozzfest?
the cost for 1 ticket is more than a 3 day pass



toggletoggle post by succubus  at Feb 23,2006 5:01pm
rusted angel made a million great points in this thread



toggletoggle post by succubus  at Feb 23,2006 5:02pm
oh and RETURNTOTHEPIT and DEFYUNLEARN are 2 sponsers..you going to boycott rttp too now?



toggletoggle post by KeithMutiny  at Feb 23,2006 5:02pm
the point of my statement was that perhaps with the price on the vendor's increase, you still need to raise the ticket prices to such and obscene amout?

I have no problem with them charging the vendors, the vendor can easily make the money back, plus some, that has nothing to do with what im saying.

so then, how many vendor licenses are issued? x $1500 + % of merch? + food/bar sales? + ticket prices? = ?




toggletoggle post by succubus  at Feb 23,2006 5:02pm
*sponsor



toggletoggle post by KeithMutiny  at Feb 23,2006 5:04pm
succubus said:
oh and RETURNTOTHEPIT and DEFYUNLEARN are 2 sponsers..you going to boycott rttp too now?



well i almost forgot.

+ sponsor money = ?



toggletoggle post by KeithMutiny  at Feb 23,2006 5:05pm
i just belive it could be done with much less of a financial agenda in mind.

apparently you people think otherwise.



toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Feb 23,2006 5:20pm
my reason for not going is because the lineup sucks.



toggletoggle post by KeithMutiny  at Feb 23,2006 5:22pm
i honestly dont mind the line up, its better than it has been for a while, in my personal opinion.



toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Feb 23,2006 5:29pm
i liked last year's lineup better. king diamond, behemoth, dark tranquillity, obituary. this year's is better than 2 years ago when evergrey was the only band i wanted to see and they cancelled. i was so pissed.



toggletoggle post by BornSoVile   at Feb 23,2006 5:44pm
so what is the boycott about?



toggletoggle post by KeithMutiny  at Feb 23,2006 5:49pm
well i never mentioned the word boycott.

but the point is the insane prices, and that its turning into an investment, rather than an art expression.



toggletoggle post by Yeti at Feb 23,2006 5:49pm
boycotting is a bit extreme. if you dont agree with the ticket prices, just dont go.



toggletoggle post by KeithMutiny  at Feb 23,2006 5:54pm
KeithMutiny said:
not that anyone cares what i have to say, but i think this is completely out of hand.





toggletoggle post by BornSoVile   at Feb 23,2006 5:55pm
so your protesting it cause it's expensive. okay i understand that. it will probably cost you more to go to MDF with gas/hotel. I know they're not directly related to the fest but why not protest that too? and like tom said, you should make one about ozzfest. consistency is the big ethical rage nowadays.



toggletoggle post by KeithMutiny  at Feb 23,2006 5:58pm
im not going to MDF, though it is a great line up, because of the money as well.

as for ozzfest, perhaps in time, but this is my issue at hand because the initial shock was so disturbing.

and dont try and lecture me on consistancy.



toggletoggle post by pam nli at Feb 23,2006 6:13pm
yikes. I'm just not going because I'm claustrophobic, poor and don't like shitty metalcore. I'm not burning my bra.



toggletoggle post by DaveSnake888  at Feb 23,2006 8:46pm
TROUBLE RULES THE LAND



toggletoggle post by pam nli at Feb 23,2006 8:50pm
They were awesome live, too.



toggletoggle post by KeithMutiny  at Feb 23,2006 8:53pm
http://www.bostonphoenix.com/boston/music/...local/rucker/documents/04819497.asp

the only trouble i listened to, but they were awsome... im also well aware its not the same band, before anyone points this out.



toggletoggle post by jrb2917 nli at Feb 23,2006 8:56pm
I was a huge Trouble fan.. I think I stillhave 'the skull' on vinyl



toggletoggle post by jrb2917 nli at Feb 23,2006 8:58pm
hehe oops wrong band?



toggletoggle post by KeithMutiny  at Feb 23,2006 9:04pm



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Feb 23,2006 9:36pm
the most confusing part of this thread is that $1500+$1700=$2700. that really cofuses me to the point of not reading past there.

but dudes, go or don't go, this festival will still sellout like it does every year. this year there is A lot less "bullshit" music than other years. there are a lot more "surprises" in the line up that are really fucking awesome. yes the price for all 3 days is a little much when you look at it, but at least it's not just the same shadowsfall line up that used to happen every year. I think this is a very strong year. and the whiners will always find a reason to bitch about this shit. do me a favor, go to milwaukee metal fest and then come back and tell me nemhf sucks. you want the worst fest ever.. "treat" you sell to mmf. worst thing ever.



toggletoggle post by DrinkHardThrashHard  at Feb 23,2006 9:38pm
Trouble are fucking legends, are you telling me the band playing the Fest is another, with the same name?

Fuck.
Fuck.
Fuck.

Shouldn't they be called "The Trouble"?



toggletoggle post by DrinkHardThrashHard  at Feb 23,2006 9:40pm edited Feb 23,2006 9:41pm
the_reverend said:
the most confusing part of this thread is that $1500+$1700=$2700. that really cofuses me to the point of not reading past there.

but dudes, go or don't go, this festival will still sellout like it does every year. this year there is A lot less "bullshit" music than other years. there are a lot more "surprises" in the line up that are really fucking awesome. yes the price for all 3 days is a little much when you look at it, but at least it's not just the same shadowsfall line up that used to happen every year. I think this is a very strong year. and the whiners will always find a reason to bitch about this shit. do me a favor, go to milwaukee metal fest and then come back and tell me nemhf sucks. you want the worst fest ever.. "treat" you sell to mmf. worst thing ever.


Let's be fair though. Some of the earlier Milwaukee metalfests (late 80s, early 90s) were absolutely phenomenal, with kickass lineups. They suck today (I agree). Also, you have to give Koshick credit, as scummy as he may be, he kept doing them even during the 'dead years' of metal (early to mid 90s). Metal is doing extremely well now, and New England is one of its hotspots, so of course a fest like the NEMHF is going to be successful.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Feb 23,2006 9:40pm
I'm not sure which trouble this is... there are 3 troubles I can think of.
the trash metal on, the metal one, and the old school hardcore one. I think the hardcore one is the only one still around.
I've seen their name on things lately.



toggletoggle post by DrinkHardThrashHard  at Feb 23,2006 9:42pm edited Feb 23,2006 9:44pm
the_reverend said:
I'm not sure which trouble this is... there are 3 troubles I can think of.
the trash metal on, the metal one, and the old school hardcore one. I think the hardcore one is the only one still around.
I've seen their name on things lately.


The doom metal Trouble is back together, from what I've heard. Which is why I originally believed it was them playing the NEMHF :( I lose...

If there's a way to confirm this though....someone please do. It might make a difference whether I drop $30-odd bucks to go see one of the days.



toggletoggle post by KeithMutiny  at Feb 23,2006 9:49pm
Im willing to bet its not "The Trouble" from Boston.

but then again, you never know, they been talking about a reunion for a while, and bridge nine just re released thier cd last summer...

but i guessing its more the metal, trouble.



toggletoggle post by KeithMutiny  at Feb 23,2006 9:51pm
and death threat... thats not the powerviolence skater west coat death threat is it?

or is it the local death threat?



toggletoggle post by thewrldcanwait   at Feb 23,2006 9:57pm
Honestly, I'm on the Reverend's side. This fest isn't that bad at all, and just because you actually have to pay a little bit of money people are getting all upset. If one day is only 40 bucks, that's way less than some shitty Ozzfest tickets or even something good, like Slayer tickets. So maybe the local bands you see for 5 or 10 bucks are for ONE DAY going to cost you 3 or 4 times more, think of all the big names from all over the damn world that are playing at this thing. If it's too much, suck it up and wait til you can see your favorite bands at a shitty local club for 5 or 10 bucks again.



toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Feb 23,2006 10:01pm
the_reverend said:
the most confusing part of this thread is that $1500+$1700=$2700. that really cofuses me to the point of not reading past there.


ahahahah oops, It was the end of the day and I was getting rowdy.




toggletoggle post by DrinkHardThrashHard  at Feb 23,2006 10:06pm
I say it's business as usual. If you like a lot of the bands, it's worth the asking price. If not, don't go. The Palladium is paying for it, and they pick the bands. That is the reality. Life goes on. I think 'boycotting' it is just stupid, it's not like it's mandatory to attend the NEMHC Fest.

I've always wanted to do a large fest, though not of this scale, I did put on one Stormfest way back in 1999 in the Lawrence mill of all fucking places. I think I'd aim for a higher % of black, death, doom, thrash, and speed metal, but that's just my preference. Some of my band are going to try our hands at some booking coming up, so we'll see where that leads.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Feb 23,2006 10:07pm
when I was talking "troubles" the metal trouble was the doom metal one.
I was thinking the one of nemhf was the hardcore one since I thought they actually were doing a reunion (since panic is also doing reunions)



toggletoggle post by slowlypeelingtheflesh   at Feb 23,2006 10:09pm
im gonna wait until the schedule is posted and then see if I wanna go.



toggletoggle post by BornSoVile   at Feb 23,2006 10:21pm
The Trouble (Boston) was and still is one of the most important bands in my life. I have all the 7"s and Nobody Laughs Anymore's original press on GMM. I think the only show they played outside of new england was the GMM Beer Olympics in Atlanta. Fuck it, I'm putting the Crime and Punishment slab on right now. WE ARE THE BLOOD!!!
I <3 You Keith.



toggletoggle post by KeithMutiny  at Feb 23,2006 10:26pm
SATURDAYS... KIDS... NOTHIN ELSE TOO DO... WASTED YOUTH!

haha, fuckin right.

and yes, I was at thier last show at the greek american club in central square in the summer of 99. The nazi skins showed up and started a fight and the cops busted it and started arresting everybody. Ducky boys played, anti-hero, and patriot never got to go on... that was a fun show though, it was fuckin packed.



toggletoggle post by BlackoutRick at Feb 24,2006 1:06pm
Hypersolid is on the fest. Awesome for those guys!!! Buddys of ours.



toggletoggle post by davefromthegrave  at Feb 24,2006 1:20pm
BornSoVile said:
holy shit, i can't believe ATR isn't playing!


atari teenage riot? I actually wanna see them.



toggletoggle post by i_am_not_me   at Feb 25,2006 11:53am
...and I just now notice that Tom's favorite amp company is sponsoring this year. Or "presenting". Whatever.



toggletoggle post by succubus  at Feb 25,2006 12:00pm
atr=all that remains



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Feb 25,2006 12:01pm
I saw most of atari teenage riot (with out the carl crack, even though he was still alive) and it sucked. it sucked so bad that I left.
Alex Empire can suck a dick.
he was all painted green.

All I wanted was merbow to come out and play and I couldn't take it anymore so I left.



toggletoggle post by pam   at Feb 25,2006 12:45pm
DrinkHardThrashHard said:
the_reverend said:
I'm not sure which trouble this is... there are 3 troubles I can think of.
the trash metal on, the metal one, and the old school hardcore one. I think the hardcore one is the only one still around.
I've seen their name on things lately.


The doom metal Trouble is back together, from what I've heard. Which is why I originally believed it was them playing the NEMHF :( I lose...

If there's a way to confirm this though....someone please do. It might make a difference whether I drop $30-odd bucks to go see one of the days.



They are, I saw the doom-Trouble in Ohio, although it was a couple years ago. That'll be terrible if it's some less-worthy Trouble.



toggletoggle post by pam   at Feb 25,2006 12:46pm
I'm happy All That Remains isn't playing, I'm sick of taking pictures of that fucks huge nostrils. That band sucks out loud.



toggletoggle post by davefromthegrave  at Feb 25,2006 1:29pm
dreadkill said:
i would go to this if tom jones headlined.


the rev needs to take pics of a tom jones show sometime.



toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Feb 25,2006 1:32pm
i wanted to see tom jones, but that fuck charges way too much for tickets.



toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Feb 25,2006 1:33pm
pam said:
I'm happy All That Remains isn't playing, I'm sick of taking pictures of that fucks huge nostrils. That band sucks out loud.


hahaha, yeah, that dude's snookerholes are humongous. you could lose your camera in there or possibly get tangled in his nose hairs and be forced to listen to bad metalcore and survive on boogers.



toggletoggle post by davefromthegrave  at Feb 25,2006 1:35pm
haah, i want to se goat horn real bad.



toggletoggle post by mOe nli at Feb 27,2006 9:39pm
i was pretty nonchalant about this fest until Suicide Silence got added today...
so now i HAVE TO go

i'm pumped



toggletoggle post by whiskey_weed_and_women  at Feb 27,2006 9:46pm
oh my god, no way. yeah who cares.



toggletoggle post by mOe nli at Feb 27,2006 10:15pm
yea, Suicide Silence is this band from CALI that i've been fiending to see since i first heard em. Their EP is brutal shit. I mean, they're no Throwing Shrapnel but who is. IF we gauged everything by that we wouldnt listen to anything. Not even Throwing Shrapnel.



toggletoggle post by davefromthegrave  at Feb 27,2006 10:55pm
mOe nli said:
yea, Suicide Silence is this band from CALI that i've been fiending to see since i first heard em. Their EP is brutal shit. I mean, they're no Throwing Shrapnel but who is. IF we gauged everything by that we wouldnt listen to anything. Not even Throwing Shrapnel.


tom jones would still be at the top of every playlist.



toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Feb 27,2006 10:57pm
i'm still holding out hope for tom jones to headline this. if he doesn't, i definitely won't go.



toggletoggle post by Cav at Feb 27,2006 11:02pm
i checked out suicide silence the other day...i liked em a lot...everyone else in my band bashed em. thanks for being on my side moe



toggletoggle post by brian_dc  at Feb 27,2006 11:07pm edited Feb 27,2006 11:07pm
every song just sounds the same to me....they're not bad. I just don't get all the buzz. Oh and the drummer inexplicably wears a mask.



toggletoggle post by Cav at Feb 27,2006 11:14pm
overcast just got added



toggletoggle post by whiskey_weed_and_women  at Feb 27,2006 11:15pm
mOe nli said:
yea, Suicide Silence is this band from CALI that i've been fiending to see since i first heard em. Their EP is brutal shit. I mean, they're no Throwing Shrapnel but who is. IF we gauged everything by that we wouldnt listen to anything. Not even Throwing Shrapnel.


oh snap you sure called me out by using my bands name in there as a reference point.

and yeah id rather listen to my band anyday over anything you like. scenester



toggletoggle post by tbone_r nli at Feb 27,2006 11:40pm
yeah, i heard about overcast. awesome.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Feb 27,2006 11:42pm
overcast is awesome!
I shot there first reunion and one of the pictures ended up in the shadows fall cd



toggletoggle post by kessaris   at Feb 28,2006 12:17am
The Scenester: Well you know something dude, I travelled to the highest balconies. I travelled to the lowest mosh pits. I've been through the sweatiest basements and the most crowded merch tables. But you know something brother, when I hear that there is a bicker going on on a RTTP thread, well I just gotta call it out DUDE! You know, it's been a long time for the Scenester. For years we have dominated the shows we have gone to by coming our hair over and wearing the tightest, cheapest clothes money can buy...for the third or 4th time.

I don't know where I was going with this, but I mean...come on.



toggletoggle post by brian_dc  at Feb 28,2006 12:19am
I am curious what you would be like if wrestling had never touched your life.



toggletoggle post by whiskey_weed_and_women  at Feb 28,2006 12:21am
indubitably, now where do i throw my 25cents



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Feb 28,2006 12:21am
like this:



toggletoggle post by brian_dc  at Feb 28,2006 12:23am
wow....that picture came to you quickly.....



toggletoggle post by kessaris   at Feb 28,2006 12:25am
I'd probably be a lot cooler



toggletoggle post by Blue  at Feb 28,2006 2:55am
Cav said:
overcast just got added


ARE ARE YOU FUCKING SHITTING ME



toggletoggle post by brian_dc  at Feb 28,2006 3:00am
like overcast, blue?



toggletoggle post by whiskey_weed_and_women  at Feb 28,2006 4:23am
Overcast, Cryptopsy, Cephalic Carnage, Cattle Decapitation, Colin Of Arabia, Death Threat, Doom Raider, Ed Gein, , Ion Dissonance, Neuraxis, Ramallah, Righteous Jams, Since The Flood, Skinless, Suffocation, Terror

im hoping Doom Raider, is really Doomriders and they just fucked up, still not enough to send 100bucks.



toggletoggle post by brian_dc  at Feb 28,2006 4:52am
I didn't know you dug Ion Dissonance...kinda surprised me

but you are a man of surprises.



toggletoggle post by whiskey_weed_and_women  at Feb 28,2006 5:38am
brian_dc said:
I didn't know you dug Ion Dissonance...kinda surprised me

but you are a man of surprises.


they bug me sometimes with their breakdowns cause they have a lot of really good riffs otherwise but i could get into them live.



toggletoggle post by succubus  at Mar 1,2006 10:22am
oh aaron, i asked S for a banner and she just sent it so if you wanna put it up you can just use my url.
Also, i added the MD fest one too using your URL



toggletoggle post by CARINA using another at Mar 1,2006 10:24am
[IMG]http://www.defyunlearn.com/banners/NEMHF8.gifhttp://www.metalandhardcorefestival.com/ [/IMG]



toggletoggle post by CARINA using another at Mar 1,2006 10:30am
CARINA using another said:
[IMG]http://www.defyunlearn.com/banners/NEMHF8.gifhttp://www.metalandhardcorefestival.com/ [/IMG]


take 2

http://www.metalandhardcorefestival.com" TARGET=3>
http://www.metalandhardcorefestival.com



toggletoggle post by Joe/NotCommon   at Mar 1,2006 10:37am
I scanned this thread so I might be saying what someone else already said, but the NEMHF is a business, not a DIY expression sort of thing. They are marketing to younger kids who spend their parents money. The price really isn't that outrageous considering they have the whos who of big business metal and hardcore altogether. The vendor price seems a little high to me, but like someone else said they have limited space and don't want people like me taking up space with my crap. Having vendors everyone knows is an added attraction.



toggletoggle post by paradigmdream  at Mar 1,2006 12:28pm
is there a list of who is playing what day yet?



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Mar 1,2006 12:32pm
there are some hints on the .com



toggletoggle post by Moran NLI at Mar 1,2006 12:34pm
Overcast is playing Saturday. I'll be there.



toggletoggle post by BSV@school at Mar 1,2006 1:12pm
aaron, i can't read that banner of yours at all.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Mar 1,2006 1:12pm
yeah, I need to re-do that.



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Mar 1,2006 8:45pm
on the site it saids that krank amps is gonna be giving away one of their half stacks thats like $3000 right there and thats a good chance since there is gonna be like 3000 people thoughout the weekend



toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Mar 2,2006 12:32pm
lucky me, I'm in without paying the $109. Not sure if I'll be hitting up the full 3 days though.



toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Mar 2,2006 2:14pm
aaron, I don't understand why they don't display your banner at least a tiny bit bigger rather than resizing it so you can't read it, I mean christ, you're there more than almost anyone.




toggletoggle post by pam nli at Mar 2,2006 2:19pm
It's looking good so far that I might get my pass. Pretty sweet!



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Mar 2,2006 3:56pm
for those of us that have to pay i wish they gave a list of bands with the days they were playing so we can pick and choose ( other than the headliners) it sorta sucks how they do things.... hellfest annouced which days what bands were playing... (even though hellfest got cancelled it was still a better idea other than guessing what day which bands are playing)



toggletoggle post by pam nli at Mar 2,2006 3:58pm
Yeah if I don't get my pass, I was planning to only attend one day. But I think they KNOW that's everyone's plan, so they wait until AFTER tickets go on sale to announce it or something.



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Mar 2,2006 4:00pm
probally cause thats the size that the rev paid for i don't know



toggletoggle post by TheHawthorneEffect_Kevin at Mar 2,2006 5:02pm
I think it's Dragonforce's first US show, it'll be interesting to see what they can pull of live. Those guitarists are sick.



toggletoggle post by pam nli at Mar 2,2006 5:50pm
I don't care about them, I hate the whole LOOK HOW FAST I CAN PLAY thing, for all forms of metal. Write a song I can remember five minutes later and we'll talk.

I WILL watch them though, just because I think they're aliens.



toggletoggle post by wakeoftears nli at Mar 3,2006 1:07am
Is there a list of exactly whos playing what day up yet?



toggletoggle post by wakeoftears nli at Mar 4,2006 1:25am
bump?



toggletoggle post by darkenedsoul   at Mar 5,2006 11:53am
Did you go to the metalandhardcore.com website? It usually gets posted there when they get things settled down. As for lineup, where are the black metal and doom metal bands? Arsis would be cool to see to meet up with Mike as well as see Lacuna Coil, Exodus, Suffocation and several others but still a semi-crappy lineup. TOO MANY DAMN HARDCORE/Emo-CORE bands...they should drop Metal from it and just do a freaking Hardcore show, then a METAL fest....



toggletoggle post by pam nli at Mar 5,2006 12:25pm
I agree. I don't understand the whole metal and hardcore unity thing. We don't generally like each other, can't we just leave it at that?



toggletoggle post by Josh603 at Mar 5,2006 12:50pm
April 28:
Headliners:
LACUNA COIL
Others:
BULLET FOR MY VALENTINE, ALARUM, ARSIS, NECROPHAGIST, NEURAXIS, DEMIRICOUS, STILL REMAINS, NODES OF RANVIER, IF HOPE DIES, LIGHT THIS CITY, ON BROKEN WINGS, SUICIDE SILENCE, THINE EYES BLEED

April 29:
Headliners:
ARCH ENEMY, CHIMAIRA, OVERCAST
Other bands:
EXODUS, SUFFOCATION, CRYPTOPSY, IMMOLATION, FULL BLOWN CHAOS, SKINLESS, THE CLASSIC STRUGGLE, CALIBAN, ION DISSONANCE, SWORN ENEMY, EMBRACE THE END, RIGHTEOUS JAMS,

April 30:
Headliners:
GAMMA RAY, DRAGONFORCE
Other bands:
BRONX CASKET COMPANY, GOAT HORN, HYPERSOLID



toggletoggle post by pam nli at Mar 5,2006 12:57pm
The fact that Chimaira is headlining over Exodus makes me die a little inside. I understand...popularity...but still.

Hope I get the pass, I want to see bands on all 3 days.



toggletoggle post by DrinkHardThrashHard  at Mar 5,2006 2:34pm
Can anyone confirm if Wolf is playing on the 30th, with Gamma Ray/DragonForce/GoatHorn? If that's the case, I'm going to go that day.



toggletoggle post by slowlypeeeling in pvd at Mar 5,2006 4:22pm
id go if crotchduster headlined all three days



toggletoggle post by BobNOMAAMRooney nli at Mar 5,2006 8:14pm
I'd go if could make make bands die at will with my as yet untapped psionic powers.



toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Mar 5,2006 8:42pm
okay, I'm an overcast fan, but for them to be headlining above bands like Suffocation is just wacky. Besides, the overcast reunion already happend like 4 years ago!



toggletoggle post by wakeoftears nli at Mar 5,2006 11:04pm
If Dragonforce, Into Eternity and Black Dahlia play on the same day I will be less broke than I very well could be.



toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Mar 5,2006 11:09pm
RustedAngel said:
okay, I'm an overcast fan, but for them to be headlining above bands like Suffocation is just wacky. Besides, the overcast reunion already happend like 4 years ago!


agreed



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Mar 6,2006 1:19am
well if you saw all the bands seperately it would total over $400 so I would be happy with the price of the 3 day pass and just suck it up and fucking deal with it instead of complaining



toggletoggle post by KeithMutiny  at Mar 6,2006 4:12pm
yea, but i would also go on record saying your an idiot and thats without hiding.

so i guess we're even.



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Apr 14,2006 9:03pm
it seems to me that black my heart and misery signals may be added to sunday.... look at their tour...



toggletoggle post by dwellingsickness at Apr 14,2006 11:15pm
If they were giving out tickets I might go



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