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returntothepit >> discuss >> The Line in the Sand is Drawn..........Porphyria, Who's side are you on? by brokenclown on Nov 4,2005 6:21pm
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toggletoggle post by brokenclown at Nov 4,2005 6:21pm
Will they do the show and betray the comradery of local metal bands? Or will they bow out and spit in the face of this vermin?



toggletoggle post by KeithMutiny  at Nov 4,2005 6:22pm
this thread is gonna turn out to be a giant fucking aids factory.



toggletoggle post by DreamingInExile   at Nov 4,2005 8:12pm
KeithMutiny said:
this thread is gonna turn out to be a giant fucking aids factory.


doesn't every thread?



toggletoggle post by Joe/NotCommon   at Nov 4,2005 8:14pm
I hope Sin of Angels get the chance to betray the metal scene and play with Vital Remains at the Palladium.



toggletoggle post by the_taste_of_cigarettes  at Nov 4,2005 8:30pm
I'll still like them. Who fucking cares?



toggletoggle post by DreamingInExile   at Nov 4,2005 8:31pm
the_taste_of_cigarettes said:
I'll still like them. Who fucking cares?





toggletoggle post by davefromthegrave  at Nov 4,2005 8:32pm
how the fuck is playing a show betraying the metal community?



toggletoggle post by shrapnel ! at Nov 4,2005 8:33pm
i dont think anyone actually has a problem with them, i mean at times i wanna smack tom around but i mean i dont think there's a problem with them.

it's like tim said why does everything on here have to be a dramafilled issue this isnt survivor it's whoever works there asses off to get shit done.



toggletoggle post by Joe/NotCommon   at Nov 4,2005 8:38pm
I have a problem with them, but I am glad they arent backing off this show because that would be gay. I would use that against them in some future thread.



toggletoggle post by davefromthegrave  at Nov 4,2005 9:02pm
why would they back down off this show?



toggletoggle post by davefromthegrave  at Nov 4,2005 9:13pm edited Nov 4,2005 9:13pm
anybody got an answer for me, or is the answer too fucking stupid to even put into words?



toggletoggle post by Joe/NotCommon   at Nov 4,2005 9:14pm
Josh from Abhorred feels that nobody should play shows organized by Kenny Lanning, and this show was organized by that kid.



toggletoggle post by davefromthegrave  at Nov 4,2005 9:19pm
okay. I understand.
i don't know that guy but according to several people on this site, he's fucked over bands numerous times.
Well, they can play whatever show they want to play.



toggletoggle post by dwellingsickness at Nov 4,2005 9:36pm edited Nov 4,2005 9:37pm
Who cares if they play that show...I am sure any local band would jump at the chance to play with Vital Remanis and Incantation



toggletoggle post by shrapnel ! at Nov 4,2005 9:39pm
dwellingsickness said:
Who cares if they play that show...I am sure any local band would jump at the chance to play with Vital Remanis and Incantation


yup why were willing to sell tickets to play with them !



toggletoggle post by davefromthegrave  at Nov 4,2005 9:39pm
dwellingsickness said:
Who cares if they play that show...I am sureany local band would jump at the chance to play with Vital Remanis and Incantation


right on. Ask yourself what's worse for the scene:

1. A band playing a show that involves somebody you don't like.

2. You being angry at some dickhead who screwed you over in the past, and holding a grudge against one of your peers because they happened to have something to do with that person.

which one is worse for the scene?



toggletoggle post by sinofangels-ray  at Nov 4,2005 9:57pm
Dude it's Just A show!!!! Why would anyone back off to play a show I don't see it betraying any scene. most promoters and club owners are scumbags that care about the botom line not your Band or who plays. I have never met this shitbag kenny but i hear he's a total scumfuck but ya know what if he offerd me a show that was going to gain more exposure for me and my band i'll take it. that's what it's about right if not i would stay home and jam in my basment and never do anything because part of this shit is getting ripped off and fucked with you just have to deal with it and learn... and by the way I have played shows w Vital and Incan many times both together and seprate and they were always a fucking blast......



toggletoggle post by Termination slip at Nov 4,2005 9:59pm
Kikey Lannings productions



toggletoggle post by diamond_dave  at Nov 4,2005 11:07pm
davefromthegrave said:

which one is worse for the scene?


in addition to what dave said...i don't know exactly how the palladuim works, and i certainly understand not wanting to deal with certain people as a matter of principle.
BUT-- it seems to me that it would make more sense to play the show and get a foot in the door...talk to people there, make contacts, find a way around this guy. i think that benefits the scene (i.e. all of us) more than a boycott.



toggletoggle post by mOe  at Nov 5,2005 1:43am
Porphyria are awesome dudes and would never do anything to outright FUCK or hurt the scene. Them playing this show does not hurt the scene. Kenny, in his own quasi-retarded, unorthodox way is kind of contributing to the scene. I dont see any of the other bookers in the Mass scene getting Vital Remains at the Palladium. So what if he doesnt pay bands, most of the bands he books are wicked local. Any unsigned local band should not care about not getting paid or losing money on a show i've been playing in bands since i was 15 and havent made a penny yet. WHO CARES. nothing against Josh, he's a great dude. But the hude deal he's making about this isn't extremely warranted.



toggletoggle post by slowlypeelingtheflesh   at Nov 5,2005 2:16am
I support Porphyria and their efforts to get kids at shows.



toggletoggle post by BornSoVile   at Nov 5,2005 10:47am
unnessecary thread.



toggletoggle post by DreamingInExile   at Nov 5,2005 10:57am
BornSoVile said:
unnessecary thread.


Agreed, I'll be at this show, I don't care who set it up

if some of you have it in for a band just for playing a show booked by a shitbag then that's your problem, I agree with the others saying that a boycott won't do shit but hurt the scene. the way to do it, is make good contacts with the larger nationals, and maybe they'll request you on their next appearance.



toggletoggle post by mark fucking richards at Nov 5,2005 1:24pm
mOe said:
Porphyria are awesome dudes and would never do anything to outright FUCK or hurt the scene. Them playing this show does not hurt the scene. Kenny, in his own quasi-retarded, unorthodox way is kind of contributing to the scene. I dont see any of the other bookers in the Mass scene getting Vital Remains at the Palladium. So what if he doesnt pay bands, most of the bands he books are wicked local. Any unsigned local band should not care about not getting paid or losing money on a show i've been playing in bands since i was 15 and havent made a penny yet. WHO CARES. nothing against Josh, he's a great dude. But the hude deal he's making about this isn't extremely warranted.


the whole issue isn't about money, it's the principle that kenny makes all these crazy promises, then breaks them, even for touring bands. he also guarantees that he has a PA, or that a show is all ages/18+ when it's really 21+, etc. etc. etc. he just tells everyone what they want to hear and doesn't deliver. i'm not saying it's wrong to take shows with him, but everyone should just know what to expect when dealing with him.




toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Nov 5,2005 1:27pm
I don't even understand this thread...



toggletoggle post by brokenclown at Nov 5,2005 2:05pm
This is a joke thread, don't take it so seriously



toggletoggle post by brokenclown at Nov 5,2005 2:07pm
Everyone needs to lighten up around here



toggletoggle post by AUTOPSY_666   at Nov 5,2005 2:39pm
I'm for anything that pisses Josh Staples off.



toggletoggle post by xericx   at Nov 6,2005 5:00pm
Joe/NotCommon said:
Josh from Abhorred feels that nobody should play shows organized by Kenny Lanning, and this show was organized by that kid.


feed us fetus was booked with vital remains at the palladium a few months ago with porphyria. he posted flyers and everything for the show, and vital remains wasn't even actually booked...is this a confirmed vital show or is he just making shit up again....that guy keeny needs to be burned at the stake. what a fucking joke he is.



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