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returntothepit >> discuss >> so i was listening to Until Your Heart Stops and then Perfect Pitch Black... by the_taste_of_cigarettes on Sep 18,2005 10:36am
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toggletoggle post by the_taste_of_cigarettes  at Sep 18,2005 10:36am
what the fuck happened to Cave-In? Steve Brodsky and Adam wrote some fucking incredible shit for Until Your Heart Stops...basically redefining the limits of metal and hardcore for the next 5 years following, and then Perfect Pitch Black is like...it's still not that shit. Why did they abandon what they were doing?? It was unprecedented and still no one's emulated it.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Sep 18,2005 10:51am
welcome to 2000 nick!
you have 5 1/2 years of disappointing releases to go.



toggletoggle post by wade at Sep 18,2005 11:07am
i like jupiter.



toggletoggle post by DeOdiumMortis  at Sep 18,2005 11:16am
I like Uranus.



toggletoggle post by the_taste_of_cigarettes  at Sep 18,2005 12:09pm
sigh



toggletoggle post by DeOdiumMortis  at Sep 18,2005 12:11pm
the_taste_of_cigarettes said:
sigh


No that was here



toggletoggle post by DrinkHardThrashHard  at Sep 18,2005 1:03pm
I liked Until Your Heart Stops, Jupiter and a little bit of Antenna. I don't think they redefined anything though, bands were already adding psychedelia, space rock and other influenced into metal/hardcore for over a decade before that came out.

This new one is fucking terrible, it just doesn't work how they mix everything together. Not for me.



toggletoggle post by the_taste_of_cigarettes  at Sep 18,2005 1:57pm
you consider until your heart stops psychadelic?



toggletoggle post by DrinkHardThrashHard  at Sep 18,2005 2:54pm
Not entirely, but then again 'psychedelic' is an ambiguous term. But I can't deny some of the space rock and ambient elements (as well as the segues), which some consider psychedelic. I'm pretty sure one of the members of the band (who are from my town) actually called their new direction 'psychedelic' in a conversation once when describing it to me (this was before UYHS came out).



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Sep 18,2005 7:46pm
yes, they were billed as both "psycedillia" and "indie rock" at the same time.



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