comon people voice your opinions what is best

I LIKE THRASH BECAUSE I DONT LIKE TO POLLUTE EGGS

out of those...


numetal.

gay poll



thrash

which

Anonymous people who cannot spell should not be allowed to make polls...PS I vote none of the above..Goregrind !

dwellingsickness said:

Here Here!

Since grind wasn't an option I voted Thrash. They're tied in my book.

I don't listen to nu metal, but I enjoy the other three immensely. My heart is with thrash and death though.

Dissector said:

seconded.

no vote

GRIND.

stupid post

Thrash no doubt.
I like old death, BM, and grind. Doom and stoner kinda bore me but some shit I can deal with.

black metal is mine but i went with thrash, soley because most thrash records from the 80's blow away 90% of the modern DM sound.

black metal and thrash are my personal favorite metal sub genres

BornSoVile said:

100% agreed.

Dissector said:

Thrash from the 80's = grab a walker and an oxygen tank when being compared to 90's death metal. Mortal Decay's Forensic, Demilich's Nespithe and Necrophagist's Onset Of Putrefaction make 80's thrash sound like Winger.

the key word is MODERN.
Nespithe was 93. Mortal Decay is awesome, Forensic is my favorite UL release. aesthetically, necrophagist's vokills are the only thing that reallly give them that pure death sound, unfortunately I'd like them alot more if there were no vocals.

So by Modern DM you mean the bands who use a gratuitous amount of slam riffing? I mean, I am a fan of slam, its a DM riff, but I too will agree that bands who overuse it and want to be Devourment should not exist.

Sorta, nothing has really caught my attention lately. Aside from Dying Fetus, Krisiun, Goratory, Cryptopsy, Mortem, Morbid Angel-nothing off the top of my head has truely blown me away for death metal. I still like it alot. Thrash gives me a feeling I can't get from DM. Older Death Metal is awesome and is severly overlooked like Dimilich for example. Hardly anyone even has heard the name.

Slam riffing is great for the most part, when done effectively. I've just sorta grown out of the notion that whatever the best band is on earth has to be the fastest, sickets, most techinical, super guttural, band going. half the time most of these modern bands call themselves death grind, which doesn't even add up right. it's comforting to listen to Obituary, not hear any blast beats or guttural vokills and realize that it's textbook DM.

Yeah DM is certainly in limbo right now that's for sure. Hopefully the bands that are good will continue to release some sick albums, like the new Disgorge cali (though I dont dig the vocals as compared to Matti Way)

I hate how people always write off older Thrash/DM/BM cause the production isn't what they were trained to listen to when getting into DM in the late 90's/00's... Personally I think bands like HELLHAMMER, old SODOM, SARCOFAGO, old PESTILENCE, AUTOPSY, BLASPHEMY, etc. etc. etc. are just as extreme and heavy as any current Unique Leader/United Guttural/Pathos style DM band.

Not all DM bands have Cannibal Corpse production... a lot of it is filthy sounding. I wouldn't really compare any of the bands above to Unique Leader bands, they all obviously have a different approach to extreme metal, and I'm one of those people who enjoys all Pestilence (even Spheres)

Well, I know DEMILICH, MORTAL DECAY and NECROPHAGIST don't fit that mold... I really dig Nespithe for sure... But you know what I mean. The sheer gutturality (a word?) that has progressed in DM over the years does make for a certain kind of heaviness, but I don't at all agree with the idea that it detracts from the brutality and heaviness of bands like those I listed.

BestialOnslaught said:

BestialOnslaught said:

Yeah, in my opinion for their time they were certainly brutal and yes, just because metal has gotten increasingly more faster and heavier, it doesnt make those past albums any less enjoyable. Consuming Impulse is a good example of an album that still levels you when you put it on.

Death Metal has been in limbo since 2000.

No it hasn't.

AUTOPSY_666 said:

I think it has. Last great DM record I heard was Destroy the Opposition.

Hahahaha!

Well what the hell do you have to offer to the subject Dwyer?

How can you comment when YOU are clueless?!

Cause I havn't heard a great DM cd since 2000! I wanna know what you think!

Here are good releases from just 2000...

Abramelin - Deadspeak

Abscess - Tormented

Aeon - Dark Order

Aeternus - Burning The Shroud

Aghora - Aghora

Alchemist - Organasm

Altar - In The Name Of The Father

Anaal Nathrakh - Total Fucking Necro

Arghoslent - Arsenal Of Glory

Asphyx - On The Wings Of Inferno

Atomizer - The End Of Forever

Autopsy - Ridden With Disease

Beheaded - Resurgence Of Oblivion

Behemoth - Thelema.6

Blood Duster - Cunt

Bloodbath - Breeding Death

Bloodshed - Skullcrusher

Brodequin - Instruments of Torture

Burial - Enlightened With Pain

Carnal Forge - Firedemon

Centinex - Hellbrigade

Cephalectomy - Sign Of Chaos

Ceremony - Days Before The Death

The Chasm - Procession To The Infraworld

Circle Of Dead Children - Exotic Sense Decay

Cromlech - The Vulture Tones

The Crown - Deathrace King

Cryptopsy - And Then You'll Beg

Damaged - Purified in Pain

Damnation (POL) - Resist

Dark Tranquillity - Haven

Decapitated - The First Damned

Deceased - Supernatural Addiction

Deepred - Prophetic Luster

Deströyer 666 - Phoenix Rising

Disembarkation - Rancorous Observision

Disgorge - Forensick

Dismember - Hate Campaign

Dispatched - Motherwar

Dominion Caligula - A New Era Rises

Earth (AUS) - Star Condemn'd

Embraced - Within

Encabulos - Abandoning the Flesh

Enforsaken - Embraced by Misery

Fleshgrind - The Seeds Of Abysmal Torment

Funeris Nocturnum - Pure Satanic Blasphemy

Gehenna (NOR) - Murder

God Dethroned - The Ancient Ones

Gospel of the Horns - Eve Of The Conqueror

Hypocrite - Edge Of Existence (Re-issue)

Illdisposed - Retro

Immolation - Close To A World Below

Impaled - The Dead Shall Dead Remain

Impaled Nazarene - Nihil

Impious - Terror Succeeds

In Aeternum - The Pestilent Plague

In Flames - Clayman

Incantation - The Infernal Storm

Infernal (SPN) - Whipping the Sacred Law

Kataklysm - The Prophecy (Stigmata of the Immaculate)

Krisiun - Conquerors Of Armageddon

Last Days of Humanity - Hymns of Indigestible Suppuration

Liar of Golgotha - Ancient Wars

Lividity - The Age Of Clitoral Decay

Lost Soul - Scream Of The Mourning Star

Macabre - Dahmer

Malevolent Creation - Envenomed

Martyr (CAN) - Warp Zone

Maze of Torment - Death Strikes

Megiddo - The Devil And The Whore

Misery - Curses

Misfortune - Forsaken

Morbid Angel - Gateways To Annihilation

Mortuary Drape - Tolling 13 Knell

Mourning Beloveth - Dust

Necrodeath - Mater Of All Evil

Necromicon - Peccata Mundi

Nevermore - Dead Heart In A Dead World

Nifelheim - Servants Of Darkness

Nile - Black Seeds Of Vengeance

Nocturnus - Etheral Tomb

Novembers Doom - The Knowing

Nunslaughter - Hell's Unholy Fire

Obscenity - Intense

Old Man's Child - Revelation 666 (The Curse Of Damnation)

Opera IX - The Black Opera

Origin - Origin

Orphanage - Inside

Primordial - Spirit The Earth Aflame

Profanity - Slaughtering Thoughts

The Project Hate MCMXCIX - Cybersonic Superchrist

Psychrist - Embrace Rapture In Disgust

Psycroptic - The Isle Of Disenchantment

Quo Vadis - Day Into Night

Ragnarok - Diabolical Age

Raise Hell - Not Dead Yet

The Ravenous - Assembled In Blasphemy

Rebaelliun - Burn The Promised Land

Regurgitate - Carnivorous Erection

Ritual Carnage - Every Nerve Alive

Rotting Christ - Khronos

Runemagick - Resurrection In Blood

Sabbat (JAP) - Satanasword

Satanic Slaughter - Banished To The Underworld

Serpent Obscene - Serpent Obscene

Seth - L'Excellence

Shape of Despair - Shades Of...

Shining - Within Deep Dark Chambers

Silent Stream of Godless Elegy - Themes

Soilwork - The Chainheart Machine

Sorhin - Apokalypsens Ängel

Soul Reaper - Written In Blood

Spasme - Deep Inside

Spawn of Possession - The Forbidden

Suidakra - The Arcanum

Svartsyn - ...His Majesty

Therion - Deggial

Throes of Dawn - Binding Of The Spirit

Thy Serpent - Death (EP)

Thyrane - The Spirit Of Rebellion

Thyrfing - Urkraft

Unlord - Gladiator

Unmoored - Kingdoms Of Greed

Usurper - Necronemesis

Vader - Litany

Vintersorg - Cosmic Genesis

Virulence - Dormant Strains (EP)

Watchmaker - Kill. Crush. Destroy.

Yattering - Murder's Concept

Want me to do 2001, 2002, 2003 and 2004 also?

yeah, do 01, 02, 03, 04, and 05 too please.
I don't deny 2000 was a good year. Most of the releases aren't DM though!

BornSoVile said:

like youd know ....fluffer!

diden't morbid angle break up?

AUTOPSY_666 said: Here are good releases from just 2000...

Anaal Nathrakh - not death metal

Carnal Forge - not death metal

Circle Of Dead Children - a death metal band, not really a death metal album

Deströyer 666 - not death metal

Nevermore - gay

Nile - gay

Old Man's Child - gay

Ritual Carnage - not death metal

Sabbat (JAP) - are you fucking kidding me? not death metal...

Seth - i have a cousin named seth

Soilwork - gay

Watchmaker - hahahahaha you're killing me here Dwyer...

BornSoVile said:

You must be more stupid than I think you are! Death / Grind, Death / Thrash, Doom / Death, Black / Death, etc. are all in the DM category.

2001...

Abaddon Incarnate - Nadir

Abominator - Subversives For Lucifer

Aborted - Engineering The Dead

Abortus - Process of Elimination

Aborym - Fire Walk With Us!

Absu - Tara

Adenine - Govern The Unaligned

Aeternus - Ascension Of Terror

Akercocke - The Goat Of Mendes

Alas - Absolute Purity

Altar - Red Harvest

Amon Amarth - The Crusher

Anata - Dreams Of Death And Dismay

Ancient Rites - Dim Carcosa

And Oceans - Allotropic/Metamorphic Genesis Of Dimorphism (A.M.G.O.D)

Angelcorpse - Iron, Blood, & Blasphemy (Comp)

Aphasia - Arcane In Thalassa

Arch Enemy - Wages Of Sin

Arkhon Infaustus - Hell Injection

Autopsy - Torn From The Grave (Comp)

Belphegor - Necrodaemon Terrorsathan

Benediction - Organized Chaos

Blood Red Throne - Monument Of Death

Bloodthorn - Under The Reign Of Terror

Blut Aus Nord - The Mystical Beast Of Rebellion

Bolt Thrower - Honour Valour Pride

Cadaver Inc. - Dicipline

Cannibal Corpse - Gore Obsessed

Carnal Forge - Please... Die!

Catamenia - Eternal Winter's Prophecy

The Chasm - Reaching The Veil Of Death (MCD)

Circle Of Dead Children - The Genocide Machine

Cirith Gorgor - Unveiling the Essence

Council Of The Fallen - Revealing Damnation

Countess - The Revenge Of The Horned One - Part I

Darkane - Insanity

Death - Live In L.A. (Death & Raw)

Decapitated - Winds Of Creation

Deceased - Behind The Mourner's Veil

Deeds of Flesh - Mark Of The Legion

Deranged - Deranged

Diabolical Masquerade - Death's Design

Die Apokalyptischen Reiter - All You Need Is Love

Ebony Tears - Evil As Hell

The Elysian Fields - 12 Ablaze

Em Sinfonia - Intimate Portrait

Emancer - Utopian Illusions

Enslaved - Monumension

Enter My Silence - Remotecontrolled Scythe

Epoch of Unlight - Caught In The Unlight

Eternal Tears of Sorrow - A Virgin And A Whore

Evoken - Quietus

Exmortem - Berzerker

Finntroll - Jaktens Tid

The Forsaken - Manifest Of Hate

Fuck...I'm Dead - Bring on the Dead

Funeratus - Storm Of Vengeance

Funeris Nocturnum - From The Aspect Of Darkly Illuminated

Ghoulunatics - King Of The Undead

God Dethroned - Ravenous

Gorelord - Force Fed On Human Flesh

Gorguts - From Wisdom To Hate

Grand Belial's Key - Judeobeast Assassination

Gravewurm - Ancient Storms of War

Green Carnation - Light Of Day, Day Of Darkness

Hammers of Misfortune - The Bastard

Hatesphere - Hatesphere

Himinbjørg - Haunted Shores

Hollenthon - With Vilest Of Worms To Dwell

Illdisposed - Kokaiinum

Impaled - Choice Cuts

Impaled Nazarene - Absence Of War Does Not Mean Peace

Intense Hammer Rage - Avagoyamugs

Julie Laughs Nomore - From The Mist Of The Ruins

Kalmah - Swamplord

Kataklysm - Epic (The Poetry Of War)

Khold - Masterpiss Of Pain

King's Evil - Deletion Of Humanoise

Krisiun - Ageless Venomous

Lunatic Gods - The Wilderness

Lux Occulta - The Mother And The Enemy

Martyr (CAN) - Extracting The Core

Maximum Perversion - Repugnant Perturbation Excursion

Misery Index - Overthrow (EP)

Monstrosity - Enslaving The Masses

Morgul - Sketch Of Supposed Murderer

Morrigan - Plague, Waste And Death

Murder Squad - Unsane, Insane and Mentally Deranged

Myrkskog - Deathmachine

Mörk Gryning - Maelstrom Chaos

Necrodeath - Black As Pitch

Nephasth - Immortal Unholy Triumph

Neuraxis - A Passage Into Forlon

Night In Gales - Necrodynamic

Omnium Gatherum (AUS) - Rectifying Human Rejection

Panzerchrist - Soul Collector

The Project Hate MCMXCIX - When We Are Done, Your Flesh Will Be Ours

Prostitute Disfigurement - Embalmed Madness

Psychotogen - Perverse And Unnatural Practices

Pungent Stench - Masters Of Moral - Servants Of Sin

Pyaemia - Cerebral Cereal

Quo Vadis - Passage In Time

Rebaelliun - Annihilation

Root - Black Seal

Sanatorium - Internal Womb Cannibalism

Satans Blood - Christians To Ashes, Angels To Dust

Saxorior - Saxot

Sceptic - Pathetic Being

Shape of Despair - Angels Of Distress

Sigh - Imaginary Sonicscape

Sins Of Omission - Flesh On Your Bones

Soilent Green - A Deleted Symphony For the Beaten Down

Solefald - Pills Against The Ageless Ills

Spawn of Possession - Church Of Deviance

Throneaeon - Neither Of Gods

Twin Obscenity - Bloodstone

Vader - Reign Forever World

Varathron - His Majesty At The Swamp (Re-release)

Vomitory - Revelation Nausea

Witchery (SWE) - Symphony For The Devil

Withering Surface - Walking On Phantom Ice

Wurdulak - Ceremony In Flames

Yattering - Human's Pain

Zyklon - World of Worms

I'm not denying that there have been good detah emtal albums come out in the past few years. I would prefer to listen to the older death metal and thrash stuff over the newer stuff.

kadoogan said:

Just keep proving that you don't know what the hell you are talking about, little boy.

bring on 2002

2001 sucked. Ageless Venemous was my favorite that year.

AUTOPSY_666 said:

yeah, get him! don't fuck with john dwyer!

BornSoVile said:

You obviously haven't heard most of that stuff listed, the KRISIUN is one of the worst on that list.

2002...

Ablaze My Sorrow - Anger Hate And Fury

Aborted - Created To Kill (4-Way Split CD)

Abscess - Through The Cracks of Death

Acheron - Xomaly

Agalloch - The Mantle

Agatus - The Weaving Fates

Agoraphobic Nosebleed - Frozen Corpse Stuffed With Dope

Allegiance (SWE) - Hymns of Blood

Amon Amarth - Versus The World

Anaal Nathrakh - The Codex Necro

And Oceans - Cypher (Insect Angels & Devil Worms)

Antaeus - De Principii Evangelikum

Arcturus - The Sham Mirrors

Arghoslent - Incorrigible Bigotry

Atomizer - Death Mutation Disease Annihilation

Aurora Borealis - Time Unveiled

Barathrum - Venomous

Beheaded - Recounts Of Disembodiment

Behemoth (POL) - Zos Kia Cultus

Belphegor - Infernal Live Orgasm

Bestial Mockery - Christcrushing Hammerchainsaw

Blood Red Throne - A Taste for Blood

Bloodbath - Resurrection Through Carnage

Bloodshed - Inhabitants Of Dis

Cadaveria - The Shadows' Madame

Callenish Circle - Flesh_Power_Dominion

Captain Cleanoff - Captain Cleanoff

Carpe Tenebrum - Dreaded Chaotic Reign

Catamenia - Eskhata

Centinex - Diabolical Desolation

The Chasm - Conjuration of The Spectral Empire

Construcdead - Repent

Coprofago - Genesis

Count De Nocte - Carpe Noctum

Countess - The Revenge Of The Horned One - Part II

The County Medical Examiners - Forensic Fugues And Medicolegal Medleys

Crionics - Human Error: Ways To Selfdestruction

The Crown - Crowned In Terror

Dark Tranquillity - Damage Done

Darkane - Expanding Senses

Daylight Dies - No Reply

Deathwitch - Deathfuck Rituals

Decapitated - Nihility

Defleshed - Royal Straight Flesh

Deinonychus - Mournument

Demigod (FIN) - Shadow Mechanics

Deranged - Plainfield Cemetery

Deströyer 666 - Cold Steel... For An Iron Age

Detonation - An Epic Defiance

Dew-Scented - Inwards

Diabolical - A Thousand Deaths

Dies Irae - The Sin War

Dimension Zero - Silent Night Fever

Emancer - The Human Experiment

Enthroned - Carnage In Worlds Beyond

Entombed - Morning Star

Eternal Oath - Righteous

Excarnated - Homicidal Decimation

Exmortem - Pestilence Empire

Forefather - Engla Tocyme

The Forsaken - Arts of Desolation

Funeris Nocturnum - Code 666

Ghoul - We Came For The Dead!!!

Gorelord - Zombie Suicide Part: 666

Gospel of the Horns - A Call To Arms

Grave - Back From The Grave

Grey Skies Fallen - Tomorrow's In Doubt

Hate Eternal - King Of All Kings

Hatesphere - Bloodred Hatred

Immolation - Unholy Cult

Impaled - Mondo Medicale

Impiety - Kaos Kommand 696

Impious - The Killer

In Aeternum - Past And Present Sins (Comp)

Incantation - Blasphemy

Insision - Beneath The Folds Of Flesh

Insomnium - In The Halls Of Awaiting

Intense Hammer Rage - Gory B

Internecine - The Book Of Lambs

Into Eternity - Dead Or Dreaming

Kaamos - Kaamos

Kalibas - Product Of Hard Living

Kalmah - They Will Return

Kataklysm - Shadows & Dust

Korum - Son of the Breed

Lividity - ...Till Only The Sick Remain

Lock Up - Hate Breeds Suffering

Lord Belial - Angelgrinder

Mactätus - Suicide

Malevolent Creation - The Will To Kill

Mastodon - Remission

Megiddo - The Atavism of Evil

Merrimack - Ashes of Purification

Misery Index - Split with Commit Suicide

Misery's Omen - Misery's Omen

Morrigan - Enter The Sea Of Flames

Mourning Beloveth - The Sullen Sulcus

Mustan Kuun Lapset - Suruntuoja

My Dying Bride - Voice of the Wretched

Myrkskog - Superior Massacre

Mytile Vey Lorth - Mytile Vey Lorth

Naglfar - Ex Inferis

Napalm Death - Order of The Leech

Necrophobic - Bloodhymns

Neuraxis - Truth Beyond...
Novembers Doom - To Welcome The Fade

Nunslaughter - Waiting to Kill Christ

Obscenity - Cold Blooded Murder

Opeth - Deliverance

Origin - Informis Infinitas Inhumanitas

Pessimist - Slaughtering The Faithful

Primordial - Storm Before Calm

Psychrist - Debauching The Minions

Ram-Zet - Escape

Rapture - Songs For The Withering

The Ravenous - Three On A Meathook

Raventhrone - Endless Conflict Theorem

The Red Chord - Fused Together in Revolving Doors

Regurgitate - Hatefilled Vengeance

Ritual Carnage - The Birth Of Tragedy

Rotting Christ - Genesis

Runemagick - Requiem Of The Apocalypse

Sadistik Exekution - Fukk

Salem - Collective Demise

Sargatanas Reign - Euthanasia... The Last Resort

Scholomance - The Immortality Murder

Seth - Divine-X

Skepticism - The Process Of Farmakon

Solar Dawn - Equinoctium

Suidakra - Emprise To Avalon

Suture - Carnivorous Urge To Kill

Taetre - Divine Misanthropic Madness

Theory in Practice - Colonizing The Sun

Thorium - Unleashing The Demons

Throne of Chaos - Pervertigo

Unleashed - Hell's Unleashed

Unlord - Lord Of Beneath

Urshurark - Architecture Of Perfect Damnation

Vader - Revelations

Vaginal Carnage - Dildo Detention

Vehemence - God Was Created

Visceral Bleeding - Remnants Of Deprivation

Vomitory - Blood Rapture

Wolfen Society - Conquer Divine

Wounds - Chaos Theory

you called watchmaker death metal.

oh I forgot about Origin, no wonder I always say their under rated.
I'm talking about Pure Death Metal - in some shape or form all those bands have probably some vague association with DM but you can't sit here and tell me that a band like Seth or Merrimack has elements of DM in their sound. PURE DEATH METAL hasn't been developing AT ALL lately. Sure there are a few bands but none of them are impressing me or the masses (if that's important). toss up between Antaeus and Behemoth for 02.

man destroyer 666 rocks me the phoenix rising is the shit who knew good death came from australia lol another band i enjoy from that country is bestial warlust

Can't we just agree that it's all personal taste and opinion?

Dissector said:

I will but Dwyer insisted on being a bully, making fun of me and my buddy Ben for knowing nothing-which is funny cause Dwyer has offered nothing new to change my mind. I think it's pretty obvious that Dehumanized, Anoxia and Teratism have revitalized the scene world wide.

Anoxia was nasty until that one dude replaced that guy Dave, the riffing seems slower now, at least when I saw them last.

I have nothing against any of those bands, I'm cool with them all. I just need to make John happy. He has a sweeet smile, I wish my teeth looked as beautiful as his.

teratism makes me happy

I <3 Teratism

BornSoVile said:

I only listed a bunch of releases that you should check out, because you obviously don't get to hear enough good stuff.

AUTOPSY_666 said:

hey talk to me when I'm 36 and see how much good stuff I've heard by then! you got at least 14 years on me guy! i'm just a punk! you got senority!

I'm just trying to help, and you called it "bullying". And I wont be 36 until next March.

Dwyer cheats..He spends way too much time on metal Archives haha

kadoogan said:

Yeah... Watchmaker owes way more to thrash than death, imo.

First to vote for Doom.

I voted for thrash...the best type of metal ever created

I finally heard Dissection the other day, definately one of the worst bands I have ever heard in my entire life. I am guessing that is why black metal was kept off this guy's list.

I wouldn't consider dissection straight on black metal, they're rather death metal influenced.

I also can't get over the fact that soulside journey is a darkthrone album, which has little to do with the current topic but oh well

The 1st 2 DISSECTION CDs rule!

And Soulside Journey is great.

Soulside is definitely great. It just trips me out maaan...it's so not transilvanian hunger

You should have seen how many people were shocked at the time A Blaze In The Northern Sky came out!

AUTOPSY_666 said:

I'm glad someone besides me knows of Quo Vadis...

But I'm still the only person I've seen with a Quo Vadis Shirt

I have a QUO VADIS longsleeve from the demo.

I met those guys in person in 1996 at the Wetlands in NYC.

I've always thought of Dissection as more of a Heavy Metal band with Black/Thrash in their sound.

No one cares what you think, you are obviously clueless.

AUTOPSY_666 said:

I learned it all from you!

The Best is http://www.soundclick.com/damnationdivine