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returntothepit >> discuss >> Otep and candiria at the bombshelter by the_reverend on Feb 24,2005 12:31am
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toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Feb 24,2005 12:31am
anyone else going?
todd, will I have problems getting in?



toggletoggle post by whiskey_weed_and_women  at Feb 24,2005 12:32am
gay !

maybe if it was Candiria from 3 years ago !



toggletoggle post by blue  at Feb 24,2005 12:33am
i havent seen candiria in 5 years. ill keep it that way and my dreams will stay reality.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Feb 24,2005 12:35am
nope, this is candiria the nu-metal band.
I thought they were on roadrunner.. so I asked the girl there about the show. she said they weren't on roadrunner... and I zing what with "oh... well, can you blame me for thinking that?"



toggletoggle post by blue  at Feb 24,2005 12:36am
haha.



toggletoggle post by BobNOMAAMRooney nli at Feb 24,2005 12:46am
Otep's anti-Bush video scores a 97 on the unintentional hilarity scale.

"DO I NEED A GAS MASK?"



toggletoggle post by Todd(bombshelter) at Feb 24,2005 2:12am
You should not have trouble getting in, what time do you plan on being there?, I will try to meet you or something,and give you tickets just in case or something like that.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Feb 24,2005 6:55am
tickets? oh man, do I have to start selling tickets now?
heh. I was just worried about my camera getting in.
are you going to the show?
I'll be there around 8-ish.



toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Feb 24,2005 8:43am
aaron, i can't believe you're going to this show. You always hated candiria, even the old shit.

OTEP? give me a fuckin break. GAY.



toggletoggle post by the rev amous at Feb 24,2005 9:04am
did I mention that I was going to see Slipknot next month?



toggletoggle post by Abbath at Feb 24,2005 9:16am
GeT DoWn WiTh ThE sIcKnEsS!!!!!!!!!!!!



toggletoggle post by blue  at Feb 24,2005 3:45pm
RustedAngel said:
aaron, i can't believe you're going to this show. You always hated candiria, even the old shit.


how dare you.



toggletoggle post by KeithMutiny  at Feb 24,2005 4:05pm
godam thats a gay show...



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Feb 25,2005 2:37am
I'm back.
working on pictures



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Feb 25,2005 2:41am
ok, first off, I'm not really a fan of any of the bands...
pictures are uploading.



toggletoggle post by BobNOMAAMRooney nli at Feb 25,2005 2:49am
Bucket Hat fat kid of indeterminable gender is not impressed.





toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Feb 25,2005 2:55am
that guitarist was an ass.



toggletoggle post by BobNOMAAMRooney nli at Feb 25,2005 2:57am
Goth Girl seems to be entranced by his incredible bangs.



toggletoggle post by BobNOMAAMRooney nli at Feb 25,2005 2:59am
That bucket hat kid is fucking ballsy because I'm sure American Head Charge was all like "JUMP DEE FAAHK UUUP!" and he was like "I will not jump, you bore me."



toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Feb 25,2005 8:52am
aaron you must feel so GAY right now. I can't even imagine.



toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Feb 25,2005 8:55am
why the hell was sarah there?



toggletoggle post by Abbath at Feb 25,2005 9:27am
BobNOMAAMRooney nli said:
Goth Girl seems to be entranced by his incredible bangs.



hahahaha i was just gonna say that, might sad



toggletoggle post by succubus  at Feb 25,2005 9:28am
she was there with her man aaron told me



toggletoggle post by litacore   at Feb 25,2005 9:33am
I like Otep. The rap aspect of her vocals I can do without but when she growls it's cool.

S/he looks like Candy Darling in some of those pictures.



toggletoggle post by timma nli at Feb 25,2005 10:23am
BobNOMAAMRooney nli said:
That bucket hat kid is fucking ballsy because I'm sure American Head Charge was all like "JUMP DEE FAAHK UUUP!" and he was like "I will not jump, you bore me."


it'd be even better if he had a fat englishman's accent.
"jump? you want me to bloody facking jump?"



toggletoggle post by BobNOMAAMRooney nli at Feb 25,2005 10:30am
I actually imagined him saying "BOOOOOOOORING" in a very gay tone.



toggletoggle post by timma at Feb 25,2005 10:41am edited Feb 25,2005 10:41am


and VOGUE. I don't see how you could possibly look badass whilst playing the keyboard.

in overalls.

with american head charge.



toggletoggle post by Paullll at Feb 25,2005 10:51am
I cant believe candiria the same band who put out beyond reasonable doubt is playing with otep............



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Feb 25,2005 10:52am
All you hardcore kids are gay!



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Feb 25,2005 11:19am
first I'm told I'm ruing hardcore,
then I'm told "stick to metal",
then I'm told I'm not a "self respecting metalhead",
and now I'm a gay hardcore kid?
WTF is going on here?!



toggletoggle post by litacore   at Feb 25,2005 11:21am
I like Otep. I am also guilty of owning Slipknot and SOAD CDs (I was tempted by BMG Music Club, the devil!)

I put the 'P' is POSER!



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Feb 25,2005 11:49am
what a late show for a weeknight! that kind of sucked. I would like to say again that my review should be read from the stand point that I don't like nu-metal. with that preface, let me begin.

descend: they sounded a bit like tool. the lead singer looked really familiar.

six side: reminded me of 95. pre-nu-metal loud rock.

bloomsimple: well, this band features VOD members. I was a huge fan of the first couple VOD cds... but we all know how their last cds turned out. I was expecting to hear crap and I was hoping to hear old VOD. er.. it was a little of both I guess. Their cd is coming out and I'm probably not going to dig it, but live it was decent. only one track (the second I think) sucked.

candiria: oh man! I've never really liked a full candiria song. normally, they mess a song up with rapping or something. This set was awesome. they played a lot of songs where they mixed up their "typical" jazz time-signature change-ups with what sounded like mashuggah. it was cool to say the least. having seen them a few times over the passed few years, this was the best set I've ever seen them do.. which is odd since they just released the worst CD ever.
I guess candiria's been the band that's been holding up this tour and it was evident last night. I would say 1/2 the crowd left after candiria finished.

otep: a lot of people have talked about liking this band so they were sort of the "driving force" behind me deciding to go to this show. I sort of thought I was going to hate their much... especially when I was on the side of the stage and muscle city chris told me that the guitar play was in ICP!?! They started, Otep goes off talking all crazy.. I'm sure it's just an act, but I guess a lot of people connect with what she's saying. The music wasn't terrible. I could listen and enjoy it in the same way I can listen to some soulfly. I noticed some of the drumming was heavy on the toms like soul fly too.
when Otep finished, the entire crowd turned and headed for the door.

american head charge: first of all, their tour manager was really cool. such a nice lady. These guys went on after 12:30 and there weren't many people left, but everyone that was left packed right up to the front. I listened for a few songs and it was ok. a little too "jump the fuck up". It reminded me of a more pissed off nu-fear-factory with out the good drumming. The singer gave anderson some grief about saying it was last call, but whatever. At one point, the bassplayer pulled a reverse ascendancy and walked around the crowd (reverse since with ascendancy, it's the guitar players). But then one of the guitar played spat water at my camera in the crowd and then stared at me and mouth 'fuck you'.

you know, whatever, some people have to front or whatever on stage and I've been flipped off and everything which is all just part of their tough act. their set ended and I packed up my stuff and walked out. I saw that same guitar have a fan come up to him and then as they walked out side the guitar player started yelling "you want to punch me, come on, you got one fucking chance" and got in front of and in the face of their fan... who was a head taller and probably had 40lbs on the guitar player. the fan was just standing there like "WTF?!?" as this guy was yelling in his face. I wanted to go over and tell him to stop attacking a fan but he stopped after a minute and walked off... I'm definitely giving him the asshole of the night award.



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Feb 25,2005 11:49am
ps: the keyboardist was the coolest part of AHC actually.



toggletoggle post by blue  at Feb 25,2005 12:00pm
bloodsimple.....i expected so much out of them, being a huge VOD fan. but they just poo on me i tell you.



toggletoggle post by whiskey_weed_and_women  at Feb 25,2005 12:56pm
blue said:
bloodsimple.....i expected so much out of them, being a huge VOD fan. but they just poo on me i tell you.



Blue in memory of such a good band, and to pay honour i will rock my old school VoD shirt tonight Ha !



toggletoggle post by blue  at Feb 25,2005 12:58pm
you brought a tear to my eye.



toggletoggle post by BobNOMAAMRooney at Feb 25,2005 1:01pm
the_reverend said:



He should also get an award for looking like Adam Duritz from The Counting Crows.



toggletoggle post by Josh_Martin at Feb 25,2005 1:08pm
the_reverend said:
candiria: oh man! I've never really liked a full candiria song. normally, they mess a song up with rapping or something. This set was awesome. they played a lot of songs where they mixed up their "typical" jazz time-signature change-ups with what sounded like mashuggah. it was cool to say the least. having seen them a few times over the passed few years,


Rev., it's "past' not "passed". You always do that.

Are old Candiria demos worth anything on Ebay? I used to see them all the time when I lived in NYC. I saw them a few months after they formed. Carly had this whole pot-smoker schtick going, he was calling himself the "marijuana messiah". Pretty gay.
But they would open for everybody around '93-'94. I have a couple of their old demos I think one's called Subliminal and the other's called Deep in the Mental or something like that. Pro copied demos, not dubs. Worth putting on Ebay? I can't stand Candiria.




toggletoggle post by blue  at Feb 25,2005 1:12pm
Josh_Martin said:

Are old Candiria demos worth anything on Ebay? I used to see them all the time when I lived in NYC. I saw them a few months after they formed. Carly had this whole pot-smoker schtick going, he was calling himself the "marijuana messiah". Pretty gay.
But they would open for everybody around '93-'94. I have a couple of their old demos I think one's called Subliminal and the other's called Deep in the Mental or something like that. Pro copied demos, not dubs. Worth putting on Ebay? I can't stand Candiria.


i wouldnt be suprised if you made some money off of those.



toggletoggle post by Anonymous at Feb 25,2005 2:25pm
RustedAngel said:
why the hell was sarah there?



What difference does it make?



toggletoggle post by Anonymous at Feb 25,2005 2:27pm
By the way, you all should check out their (self-destructive) band bio on myspace. It's fucking hilarious, they fucking suck my anal juices. I need to get a screen name.

www.myspace.com/americanheadcharge

..fucking junkies, go figure.



toggletoggle post by Anonymous at Feb 25,2005 2:36pm
Anonymous said:
RustedAngel said:
why the hell was sarah there?



What difference does it make?





toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Feb 25,2005 2:38pm



toggletoggle post by grundlegremlin at Feb 25,2005 3:02pm
Jesus, that show looked like it was a Hot Topic fashion show!!!!! What the fuck happened to Candiria?!?!?! Oh wait I know $$$$$$$$$$ gotta be the bling. It's sad when bands that used to be decent are now petty much unlistenable, RIP Candiria, please quit soon.Please?



toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Feb 25,2005 3:21pm
grundlegremlin said:
RIP Candiria, please quit soon.Please?


they don't even have either original guitarist. It will never be the same.



toggletoggle post by BobNOMAAMRooney nli at Feb 25,2005 3:29pm
WILL I NEED A GASMASK?
SHOULD I GET INOCULATED?
WILL THIS WAR LAST?
WILL WE BE INCINERATED?



toggletoggle post by the_reverend   at Feb 25,2005 4:05pm
oh also, Otep ended the set asking if there was a girl named.. marry.. I think.. in the audience. and then she read a note give to Otep from Marry's husband who's serving in iraq to say that he loved her and would be home shortly. I thought that was kind of cool.



toggletoggle post by Todd(bombshelter) at Feb 25,2005 10:06pm
haha that pic of Anderson is priceless



toggletoggle post by anonymous at Apr 17,2005 5:20pm
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toggletoggle post by anonymous at Nov 13,2005 6:56pm
at club 125 ahc went on before candiria wierd



toggletoggle post by PatMeebles at Nov 13,2005 7:12pm
Does that dumb broad still put distortion on her voice?



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