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returntothepit >> discuss >> Zakk Wylde... by RustedAngel on Nov 30,2004 1:06pm
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Zakk Wylde... - usless poll
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toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Nov 30,2004 1:06pm
Am I the only one who doesn't think he's that great?



toggletoggle post by Christraper at Nov 30,2004 1:08pm
youre insane. zakk wylde can play circles around anyone on this board. i only like his stuff with ozzy though.



toggletoggle post by powerkok   at Nov 30,2004 1:09pm
have you ever seen him play a live solo?
If you have, and youre not impressed, then youre not watching close enough.



toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Nov 30,2004 1:09pm
yes, I didn't say anyone on this board, especially I, was better than him. I'm merely saying from what I've heard from Ozzy, to BLS, none of the guitar playing was really revolutionary or anything.



toggletoggle post by powerkok   at Nov 30,2004 1:13pm
Ohh I totally agree, but when he goes out and does his 20 minute solo at live shows, like I said yesterday, I had NO idea how good he actually is.
really amazing.



toggletoggle post by paganmegan   at Nov 30,2004 1:15pm
I say nay simply because black label society makes me want to end my existance... ( over use of pinch harmonics and silly hick lyrics) stuff with ozzy is great however, he can definitely play a mean solo



toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Nov 30,2004 1:16pm edited Nov 30,2004 1:17pm
yeah, maybe I'm missing something, or haven't heard a certain song or whatever. I've heard 2 BLS albums, one heavy, one mellow...and some of the new ozzy stuff. I may have heard one solo that sounded pretty good. You'd think with BLS he'd go even more crazy with guitar shit since it's his material.

As far as guitar virtuoso's, I'd pick Vai/Malmsteen over Wylde anyday.



toggletoggle post by Christraper at Nov 30,2004 1:16pm
i dunno dude. to each his own i suppose. but any guy who goes out of his way to pick every note of his solos and not use any hammer on/pull offs is pretty kickass in my book.



toggletoggle post by paganmegan   at Nov 30,2004 1:17pm
RustedAngel said:
yeah, maybe I'm missing something, or haven't heard a certain song or whatever. I've heard 2 BLS albums, one heavy, one mellow...and some of the new ozzy stuff. I may have heard one solo that sounded pretty good.

As far as guitar virtuoso's, I'd pick Vai/Malmsteen over Wylde anyday.


Oh yeah, they can sweep arpeggiate wylde to death



toggletoggle post by Abbath at Nov 30,2004 1:18pm
i just think his a bad ass motha



toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Nov 30,2004 1:19pm
I love pinch harmonics just as much as the next guy, but yeah, I think wylde does overuse them in a couple of songs that I know of.



toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Nov 30,2004 1:19pm
Abbath said:
i just think his a bad ass motha


shave off that nutsac chin he's got going and I'm pretty sure he wouldn't look so badass anymore.



toggletoggle post by powerkok   at Nov 30,2004 1:21pm
ya I also agree, he does those, vibrato pulls at the end of all of his pinches, and I think that takes away from the coolness of a pinch harm.



toggletoggle post by paganmegan   at Nov 30,2004 1:22pm
RustedAngel said:
I love pinch harmonics just as much as the next guy, but yeah, I think wylde does overuse them in a couple of songs that I know of.


In every song I've heard!! Even in an acoustic/mellow one he felt the need to blast in with power chords and pinch harmonics!

theres tasteful use, and then theres overuse. Chuck was great for throwing in a nice tasty pinch here and there, but zakk wylde needs to calm the fuck down with those



toggletoggle post by paganmegan   at Nov 30,2004 1:23pm
and the low string pinches, that comprise basically the entire riff I find repulsive and annoying after awhile



toggletoggle post by powerkok   at Nov 30,2004 1:26pm
ya, those r what I was talkin about...the 'werooooos'



toggletoggle post by Todd(bombshelter) at Nov 30,2004 1:26pm
He does an amazing rendition of the Star Spangled Banner,he did that at chantilly's ,all i gotta say is holy shit!



toggletoggle post by paganmegan   at Nov 30,2004 1:28pm
powerkok said:
ya, those r what I was talkin about...the 'werooooos'


weroooooos heh

yeah they annoy me



toggletoggle post by Justin ACR at Nov 30,2004 2:01pm
RustedAngel said:
Am I the only one who doesn't think he's that great?


BLS and Ozzy dont do Zakk justice, you gotta hear some of his unreleased stuff, simply amazing! I'm a guitar player and have been forever, i like guitar driven stuff, and i can honestly say that im not a huge fan of BLS, i like some of the Ozzy stuff, but that def does not do Zakk Wylde justice. I've got some tracks on my comp that would make you shit your pants, just send me an im, ill send em over to u, aim: justin acr.



toggletoggle post by Justin ACR at Nov 30,2004 2:03pm
P.S. BLS is music he writes drunk in the studio, its not really pre-written, he even goes back and has to relearn the lyrics before he goes on tour. zakk's a drunken mess, but a cool dude, ive met him once before.



toggletoggle post by abhorred  at Nov 30,2004 2:44pm edited Nov 30,2004 2:44pm
B.L.S. is pretty good...but i never really got into them too much
His stuff with ozzy rules and pretty much speaks for itself
the albums that i fucking love though, are pride and glory and book of shadows



toggletoggle post by Hooker  at Nov 30,2004 3:37pm
His best shit is Book of Shadows.



toggletoggle post by Justin ACR at Nov 30,2004 4:13pm
Book of Shadows is awesome



toggletoggle post by Hooker  at Nov 30,2004 4:17pm
Totally underrated.



toggletoggle post by paganmegan   at Nov 30,2004 4:18pm
zakk wylde is so not underrated he's on the cover of a guitar magazine every two months



toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Nov 30,2004 4:19pm
book of shadows is incredible. i like that one alot. pride and glory is good too. bls and ozzy aren't his best.



toggletoggle post by dreadkill  at Nov 30,2004 4:20pm
his pinched harmonics remind me of little richard going "WOOOOOOOO!"



toggletoggle post by Hooker  at Nov 30,2004 4:58pm
paganmegan said:
zakk wylde is so not underrated he's on the cover of a guitar magazine every two months


That album is underrated.

Book of Shadows. Not Zakk Wylde himself.



toggletoggle post by abhorred  at Nov 30,2004 5:06pm
that album is amazing...if i put that in my cd player it dosen't come out for weeks



toggletoggle post by KeithMutiny  at Nov 30,2004 5:06pm
i think he sucks... hairy balls



toggletoggle post by WhyamIandasshole   at Nov 30,2004 5:10pm
Book of Shadows is the best I've heard. Pride and Glory is good too. He gets too into the whole vertuoso shit instead of writing songs like he used to.



toggletoggle post by Hooker  at Nov 30,2004 5:13pm
Now he's doing a shitty nu metal ozzy impression on everything. Going down hill just like the rest.



toggletoggle post by damnose   at Nov 30,2004 5:23pm
Zakk Wylde is a talented guy, but I don't think he's a great songwriter; his days with Ozzy were much better. I love his playing on Ozzmosis, and with Geezer on bass and Dean Castranova on drums he had an awesome backing band, which he seems to lack on the solo stuff.

Also: for most blatant abuse of pinch harmonics (and there are many) see Crazy Babies. Man, the production on that album is terrible. It sounds like you're listening through a hole in the ground, and Ozzy and the band are playing in a cave 30 feet down.




toggletoggle post by moran   at Nov 30,2004 5:44pm
damnose said:
he had an awesome backing band, which he seems to lack on the solo stuff.




Listen to Pride & Glory, the best band he's had so far. Solid as shit.



toggletoggle post by Hooker  at Nov 30,2004 5:49pm
Definitely. Tichi and Lomenzo are fucking madmen. Best power trio since Mountain. Or... Rush... or any of the way better power trios before... them.. nevermind.



toggletoggle post by assuck   at Nov 30,2004 5:54pm
zakk is an incredible guitarist

period



toggletoggle post by Kalopsia   at Nov 30,2004 6:16pm
i agree with you tom. yes he's a great guitarist, but nothing special in my ears



toggletoggle post by Blue  at Nov 30,2004 6:20pm
highly overrated. his earlier stuff was good, but then all of a sudden he decided to go super radio rock and proclaim himself a metal god, when what he does nowadays is far from metal. and he definetly gets waaaay too many mentions in guitar magazines.



toggletoggle post by assuck   at Nov 30,2004 6:24pm
Blue said:
when what he does nowadays is far from metal.


that is the stupidest thing you've ever said



toggletoggle post by Blue  at Nov 30,2004 6:38pm
shut up. i dont need this.



toggletoggle post by RustedAngel at Nov 30,2004 6:39pm
assuck said:
zakk is an incredible guitarist

period


so are a gazzillion other people.



toggletoggle post by Hooker  at Nov 30,2004 6:40pm
RustedAngel said:
assuck said:
zakk is an incredible guitarist

period


so are a gazzillion other people.


That's a great point, duder. Good job.



toggletoggle post by Kessaris at Nov 30,2004 7:13pm
I'm going to stand up for Blue here. Zakk Wylde is good, but I think he is greatly overrated. On top of that, he just does pentatonics and harmonics. And he just pushes down that wah pedal to dirty up the sound so it sounds better than it is. There are tons of better people out there so I really don't even waste my time with him. Overrated.

Plus EMGs are weak!!! (that was for you Blue)

He's a cartoon character rocker who goes on VH1 and acts all badass with his long beard putting down Bruce Dickinson for fencing and saying thats not metal. Who gets off saying Bruce Dickinson isn't metal? Seriously!!!



toggletoggle post by litacore   at Dec 1,2004 10:46am


there ya go!



toggletoggle post by paganmegan   at Dec 1,2004 10:49am
HAHAHAHAHAHA
he was such a girly man and then he began his steroid diet




toggletoggle post by assuck   at Dec 1,2004 10:51am
i dont care if you dont like his playing, but to say that zakk wylde is far from metal is a little on the ridiculous side



toggletoggle post by paganmegan   at Dec 1,2004 10:51am
Kessaris said:
I'm going to stand up for Blue here. Zakk Wylde is good, but I think he is greatly overrated. On top of that, he just does pentatonics and harmonics. And he just pushes down that wah pedal to dirty up the sound so it sounds better than it is. There are tons of better people out there so I really don't even waste my time with him. Overrated.

Plus EMGs are weak!!! (that was for you Blue)

He's a cartoon character rocker who goes on VH1 and acts all badass with his long beard putting down Bruce Dickinson for fencing and saying thats not metal. Who gets off saying Bruce Dickinson isn't metal?

Seriously!!!


no one puts down Brucey




toggletoggle post by paganmegan   at Dec 1,2004 10:52am
zakk is metal, but he was better with ozzy, I personally feel



toggletoggle post by damnose   at Dec 1,2004 10:53am
oh yeah, I completely forgot about Zakk putting down Bruce. That's almost as dumb as Yngwie's fooking fury. And fencing IS metal, even if it's not much use against the Russian guns.



toggletoggle post by litacore   at Dec 1,2004 10:54am



toggletoggle post by damnose   at Dec 1,2004 10:56am
haha, find a pic of yngwie!



toggletoggle post by paganmegan   at Dec 1,2004 10:56am
damnose said:
oh yeah, I completely forgot about Zakk putting down Bruce. That's almost as dumb as Yngwie's fooking fury. And fencing IS metal, even if it's not much use against the Russian guns.


the russian guns!!!! HAHAHAHA the trooooooooperrrrrrr



toggletoggle post by litacore   at Dec 1,2004 10:59am
damnose said:
haha, find a pic of yngwie!


scouring the earth for that right now, believe you me



toggletoggle post by grundlegremlin at Dec 1,2004 10:59am
I read in an old magazine that his sister would catch him either playing air guitar or jerking off in front of a mirror.Who the fuck plays air guitar in front of a mirror?????



toggletoggle post by paganmegan   at Dec 1,2004 11:01am
jerking off in front of a mirror because he used to look so much like a woman



toggletoggle post by litacore   at Dec 1,2004 11:01am
um...zakk or yngwie?

both makes sense



toggletoggle post by paganmegan   at Dec 1,2004 11:01am
sounds like an yngwie thing



toggletoggle post by paganmegan   at Dec 1,2004 11:02am
he loves himself and his harmonic minor scales sooooo much



toggletoggle post by paganmegan   at Dec 1,2004 11:03am
his solos are so uhhh masturbatory



toggletoggle post by grundlegremlin at Dec 1,2004 11:03am
It was Zakk.



toggletoggle post by paganmegan   at Dec 1,2004 11:03am
well he looked like a chick



toggletoggle post by grundlegremlin at Dec 1,2004 11:04am
i wish my name was yngwie.



toggletoggle post by grundlegremlin at Dec 1,2004 11:05am
paganmegan said:
well he looked like a chick
I wonder if he pulled a Buffalo Bill




toggletoggle post by paganmegan   at Dec 1,2004 11:05am
If it was you could sweep arpeggiate all of us to death and through prima donna fits on air planes



toggletoggle post by grundlegremlin at Dec 1,2004 11:07am
Don't forget about having a killer hairdo.



toggletoggle post by Jellyfish at Dec 1,2004 11:11am
Ive never liked him much. Randy Rhodes puts him to shame anyway.



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toggletoggle post by paganmegan   at Dec 1,2004 11:46am
hahaha birds could make their home in yngwie's hairdo



toggletoggle post by paganmegan   at Dec 1,2004 11:46am
I like randy rhodes better than yngwie and zakk



toggletoggle post by litacore   at Dec 1,2004 11:47am
I like mantas

haha, that solo in "Lady Lust" is so technical



toggletoggle post by paganmegan   at Dec 1,2004 11:51am
heh mantas rules



toggletoggle post by damnose   at Dec 1,2004 12:22pm
yngwie.org??? yngwie is a non-profit organization? right.

I OWN THE HARMONIC MINOR SCALE AND ALL PROFITS ANYONE MAKES FROM PLAYING IT!!!



toggletoggle post by grundlegremlin at Dec 1,2004 12:24pm
It's the yngwie fanclub site. I hope to become fanclub president.



toggletoggle post by paganmegan   at Dec 1,2004 12:27pm
ha



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