ain't it pretty?

not 100% definete, but I'm going to try it out in boston, and if I likes I pay for and take home. $1300 ($1900 new) with the footswitch ($200 new) mint condition, the guy needs to sell it to buy a tattoo kit. If I like it enough I might consider selling my DSL100, but for now I'll keep it.

I've been curious about engls for a while. Never played one.

yeah, I was too until I found this guy derek who posts on HC's website.

check it: http://www.rocksolidamps.com/

I was sick of hearing soundclips of amps of people playing gay shit, it did no help. Derek's got metal riffs, and some clips even have roddy doing the drum tracks. Excellent site for a metal guitarist looking for gear.

I was looking at the framus cobra as well which are still sick heads, but he checked out my band and said I should def go with a powerball... I guess even Erik/Hate Eternal (who's been a die hard marshall fan for 14 years) is using a powerball on the new record.

wow...ok so explain some real geeky shit, like how many tubes etc how many. why is it better than a marshall or mesa, what makes it great?
I know it looks really nice in that pic! I like that mesh.
P.s. I will never use another guitar head again. Im a poweramp guy, so Im not biased at all.

what pre/power setup do you have?

kok, the problem with marshall is they aren't really too metal sounding coming out of the box. Most marshall's you hear that sound really good are modified probably in some way. I got my Output Transformer replaced with an OEI from voodooamps and it sounds better than it did stock.

with mesa, a lot of people accuse mesa of being amps for nu-metal kids. I personally just don't really dig how they sound. Not many amps are made for metal... But amps like ENGL, FRAMUS are...

check out a few clips of the engl powerball:
http://www.rocksolidamps.com/MP3/Powerball%20Derek%20Roddy%20Seth.mp3 -- random riffs with a derek roddy drum track
http://www.rocksolidamps.com/MP3/Walk%20No%20Solo%202.mp3 -- pantera / walk.
http://www.rocksolidamps.com/MP3/Engl%20Powerball%20Covers.mp3 -- some random riffing.

here's the framus cobra doing praise the lord - dying fetus:
http://www.rocksolidamps.com/MP3/Dying%20F...us%20PTL%20Framus%20Cobra%20MP3.mp3



powerball specs:
Front Panel Features 4 channels: Clean, Crunch, Lo Gain Lead and Hi Gain Lead; 2 Gain knobs each for CH I (Clean & Crunch) and CH II (Lo Gain and Hi Gain Lead) 4 Volume knobs: Clean, Crunch, Lo Lead, Hi Lead; Bright and Bottom sound-shaping buttons for CH I; Separate Bottom sound-shaping button for CH II Lo Lead and Hi Lead; 4-way voicing section, Bass, Middle, Treble Clean, Treble Crunch for CH I; 4-way voicing section, Bass, Mid Open, Mid Focused, Treble for Ch II; CHI/II channel switch, Gain Lo/Hi, Sound style selector Open/Focused (affects all channels), Master A/B, switchable on the device or via two ENGL Z-4s or an ENGL Z-5 Custom Footswitch, A and B power amp Master knobs; Power amp Presence and Depth Punch knobs; Electronic monitoring system for the power amp tubes; Standby switch.
Rear Panel Features 2 stereo ¼” jacks for the Z-4 two-way footswitch; D-Sub 9 port for connecting the ENGL Z-5 Custom Footswitch; Noise Gate Threshold for activating the lead channels' Noise Gate and setting the desired threshold for the Noise Gate; F.X. Loop Send / Return with Balance knob; Power amp outputs: 2 x 4 ohms, 2 x 8 ohms and 1 x 16 ohms; 100 watts, 4 6L6GC power amp tubes.
Technical details The ENGL Powerball is a state-of-the-art guitar head featuring four channels in all-tube design: Clean, Crunch and two lead channels with different gain tunings - Lo Lead for swift response and Hi Lead with enhanced gain levels, massive low end and a mighty punch. A Bottom button boosts low end response for each lead channel, intensifying what is already considerable bottom end punch. If the occasion calls for mega depth punch, this is the button to push. The two primary channels each sport a specially tuned three-way voicing section: Main Channel I (Clean & Crunch) with separate Treble knobs for Clean and Crunch Main Channel II (Lo Lead & Hi Lead) with two Mid knobs, Open and Focused. This means that the midranges of the two sound styles are separately adjustable and accessible via footswitch. In addition, the Open and Focused sound styles affect the Clean and Crunch channel so that they can be tuned precisely to taste. Each channel is equipped with a Volume knob. This makes it possible to dial in precisely the desired balance of levels for the different channels. Beyond that, there are two Master (A & B) knobs for presetting different overall levels. Power amp outputs: 2 x 4 ohms, 2 x 8 ohms and 16 ohms for various speaker combinations. Footswitch functions: Ch I/II, Gain Lo/Hi, Open/Focused sound style selection, Master A/B; Clean - Crunch and Lead Lo - Hi are switched via Gain Lo/Hi. ENGL Z-5 Custom Footswitch port: This footboard is the command center for controlling all switching options remotely. Power amp Presence and Depth Punch knobs. 4 x 6L6GC-powered 100-watt power amp with electronic circuit breaker. Adjustable FX Loop (0 to 100% from parallel to serial); Noise Gate in the two Lead channels with adjustable Threshold.

Rock Solid Amps Price: $1839.00
Suggested MSRP: $2299.00

tom, i love ya and everything...but you're a bastard. expect a masked man with a crowbar at your place after you buy that head, he'll take care of it for you...heh heh

ya sounds real good on those mp3s. The one by itself, u can hear the saturation....very nice.
I d say that it sounds more triple rect than marshall in that clip, but it def. has that marshall mid thing goin.

but sounds sweet and Im sure itll kick ass. thx for the info. pal.

Hooker said:

POD preamp (with abnormal settings)
Mesa simul 295 tube power
mesa trip rect straight oversized cab.

i was thinking about getting one of those ENGL Fireball's....I'm leaning towards the Genz Benz El Diablo now though:

the el diablo definetly looks nice, any links to some clips?

I really like the feature to switch from 50 to 100 watts..... would be nice for when playing in your bedroom, ect.

the powerball owner just called me, i'm bringing my axe to everett tomorrow to try it out and probably take it home!

http://www.purevolume.com/mucopus

we both used the el diablo... ernie (our other guitarist) owns one and is tyring to persuade me to get one. i have a solid state set up right now which is alright, but compared to the el diablo i totally get dominated sound wise.

any tube amp above $1,000 will dominate a solid state amp.

yea yea

I just got a Laney VC50. Not in the same league by any means, but I love it.

the laney sounded badass tonight

RustedAngel said:

suck it

RustedAngel said:

i will build a solid state out of my cock and beat you unrelenting with it just to show you how powerful my solid state cock can be

goratory said:

lol, I was just pretending to be a tube elitist. don't mind me!

Only non tube amp I would buy is a line 6.
but tubes rule!!
goratory what do you use?

powerkok said:


marshall mode 4.

you owe it to your self to try a VHT Pitbull.

nothing wrong with VHT either.

My Dream heads:
ENGL Powerball (prolly getting tonight)
ENGL Savage 120 SE
FRAMUS Cobra
VHT Pitbull Ultra 100 w/eq
SOLDANO SLO
DIEZEL VH4/Herbert
BOGNER Uberschall
Line 6 Vetta 2

and everything. hahahaha.

framus cobra
engl powerball
diezel vh4

powerball review - "If you want high gain this is your amp. I played on all kinds of marshalls, crates, line 6's and the all mighty triple rectos, I love this amp. In my opinion it walks all over them. The only amps that will touch ENGL are names like Hughes&Kettener, Bogner, Soldano, Dezel, VHT ect. Don't waste your time on medocer amps, you will only be unhappy. "

the amp is indeed pretty and I bet it whales but the knobs look kinda fragile

I agree powerkok, nothing beats a tube amp. I graduated from a solid state Marshall Mosfet 100 to a JCM 900 this past summer and I'm such a convert.

lol, what the hell would you do to knobs that would break them anyways? they are meant for you to turn and doesn't require a lot of effort. I've seen people with knobs torn off their amps before. If you have that much of an issue maybe you should think about putting your head in an ATA case.

To all owners of Engl amplifiers: I HATE YOU.
I myself have a rather sensual Mesa Simul 295 from about '86 or so, so it has both the EL34's and 6L6's. Nonetheless, I hate you.

well transporting the things in with other equipment sometimes causes damage, but ya know, my issue is more with sound.

Broken knobs are badass looking anyway. you should see Neptune's amps.

hehehe, i'd rather keep my knobs

a sensual mesa simul, rofl. Having both EL34's and 6L6's would be cool!

check it out...

the same package i'm getting to night but $300 more than I'm paying not including shipping.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...753176533&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1

good choice tom. i definetly agree with marshalls, they sound best for high gain when modified. one day ill purchased a hot rodded jcm 800. the framus cobra rock its hard, along with the genz benz. another one you should also consider is the ashdown fallen angel head. those rock heavily as well.

would i be considered a Tom wanna be if i purchased one of these amp heads ?

RustedAngel said:

I use both as well, although they say u get more gain from all 6l6s, I think or the other way around. I just need new tubes no matter what.
and, theres really nothing sensual about my simul 295...that thing is a loud, heavy, beast.
fucking thing weighs about 60 lbs.

ohhhhhhhhhhhhh

who just walked through the door with my practically new ENGL powerball with Z5 footswitch!

I have a diezel Herbert, best amp I've ever heard.

also, check out the VHT pitbull.

i love this thing.

I have that same opeth poster

YOU LUCKY BASTARD!

I have been jonesin' for an ENGL as well...

just the thought of it makes my wallet cry out in pain.

I am sure Engl amplifiers must sound very good; the Savage 120 model on my V-amp is my second favorite to use ( my favorite, of course, being the "Ultimate Plus" ).

phantos said:

My wallet is definetly crying because I planned on waiting 2-3 more months until I bought one, but I couldn't pass up the deal. Fun stuff comes before bills for now

Dymitry said:

As soon as I strummed the first chord I was in love and I knew I was taking it home! Such a Brutal Amp especially for nickelback riffs.

Actually I've heard from ENGL owners and sellers that the Savage 120, and even the $3500 special edition doesn't even the amount of gain of the powerball. Not even the diezel VH4 has the same amount... The Herbert does though.

oooo pink is pretty

i want to go home, and you all know why.

you need to totally get a second cab, and run both heads at the same time.

I WOULD reccomend you get a different cab for the ENGL. ENGL cabs are pretty hard to get right now, but a mesa cab or a madison might do the trick. Something a bit oversized, to account for all that extra air you're pushing.

The powerballs are the shit, you're one lucky mother for having one. I first heard one on this kid's recordings - http://www.btinternet.com/~mikawbarish/1960/TesseracT-Part1b-DFH2.mp3 , amazing sound. Even the clean tone is perfect.

there's a lot more samples of his recordings with the powerball at his website, - http://www.tesseract-project.tk/ . Talented kid, writes and records everything, even programs all the drums. (yeah, those drums are programmed. fooled me at first too!)

yeah man, first step was to get the head, next I'll be trying to hunt down a cab for it... I have many cabs in mind:

framus
engl (rocksolidamps should getting a batch in soon)
vht
vader
bogner

definetly haven't made any final decisions yet.

BTW, tesseract is awesome, I had a feeling they were using Drumkit From Hell and I was right... booya! I should really setup a mini studio on my computer so I can record guitar.

first notes on playing with the powerball:

well, the sound is sick... It seems that the built in noisegate is a bit weak which I knew before hand but that's not a huge concern because there are solutions for that...With my SUPER C going through the loop, it blocks the noise completely, but I'm still getting feedback at stage volume at stops. As a test I unplugged the loop, got out my Boss NS-2 and plugged that right into the front and it solved the problem. I'm not really sure what to think other than I guess I have to use my NS-2 for now, until I figure out how to back off the feedback. I'm not sure if it's the powerball that's causing the feedback or if it's my EMG's?

what does the footswitch control, besides channels and effects loop?

the footswitch controls the 4 channels (Clean, Crunch, Soft Lead, Heavy Lead) and has two additional features (Reverb or Contour & VLS or Master A/B)

I'm not really positive what the 'reverb contour does' but the Master A/B gives you two seperate master volumes, so you can have a lead volume and a rhythm volume.

rackmount is the way to go...fuck heads

dyingmuse said:

It might work for you, but I've yet to find a decent rack mountable pre-amp that can get the sound of a well built tube head. The prophecy comes close, but I'm saving my pennies and converting back over to a head.

RustedAngel said:

Yeah, he uses DFH superior. It's a memory whore, and a little complex to use, but the sounds are worth it. I use a combination of DFH and DFH2, it's close but not quite the same quality or versatility.

Hey, if you need any help setting up that studio let me know, I'd be glad to help you out. I've got a pretty decent setup going right now myself.

Hey arrow head i may need some help also, right now i just have ntrack, and i know i have the drum kit from hell sounds on cd around here some where. Im just afraid to put them on my computer.

Aegathis nli said:

why?

Like u said, memory whore

I get around it by writing my parts as midi, then resampling and bouncing to audio track by track. I also sometimes use a single synth with a full close mic'd kit just so I can hear roughly what the drums will sound like as I'm tracking.

I really have no idea what I'm going to do about drum tracking... cause I'm not really good with drum 'timing'... So I guess getting my PC setup to record over an SM57 and do some vocal tracks will be good enough to start off with.. I asked what I should get on HC and here's what I think I'm going to get:

M-Audio Audiophile 2496 ($100)
M-Audio DMP3 ($150)
Sure SM57 ($80)

I think that's all I should need, minus the software which I'm sure I can pirate ;)

next time,
why don't you just try to get head?

any tips on mic placement as well?

on the cab? if so, 1" away from the grill off axis from the cone.
I prefer mic'ing the bottom right speaker, but I dont think it reallt matters.


ra, I can help ya with drum trax if ya want.

cool thanks for the help, I'll keep ya'll updated once I buy recording stuff, I'm sure I'll have a million questions.

when I mic my deizel amp I always keep the mic elevated and never let it toutch the gound, about six inches to foot away from the bottom right speaker sloping upwards. When I mic my crate I just sling it over the cab.
stay away from the sm 57. eats balls. try out AKG. the d2300 has a built in shockmount and is the best sounding mic I have ever used for drum and vocal micing next to the OHM 2

If you buy it from musicians friend, they give you two more for free.
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/srs7/g=rec/...mics/search/detail/base_pid/271146/

well, I've heard what the SM57 can and it sounds plenty good enough. I really don't need 3 mics i don't think?

the_reverend said:

that's what i think whenever i see the name of the thread

nic, you sound somewhat of an elitist gear whore?!?!
Am I right? haha.

http://www.soundsonline.com/sophtml/details.phtml?sku=PSP-06

I wonder if I can find a copy of that pirated to save some cash... I know i've found the wav samples for the drums before, but I'll need that software.

you won't need three, but for the same price as the 57, why not have three?

and yes, I am quite whorish when it comes to my equiptment. I'm the geek you see ariving at the show two hours before hand setting every dial on the amp to comply with the SPL of the building haha.


as far as that prate goes, search kazalite. I've found everything on there from counterstrike to photoshop and psps plugins to cakewalk and protools.

and undoubtedly tons of trojans and backdoors!!! Limewire is virtually riskfree...although I'd still scan the .exe's

I need a new counter strike cd key!! any ideas???

yes, throw your CS cd in the TRASH can.

Never had a single trojan or bd from klite. just make sure the filetypes your downloading are exe and scan before you install them

RustedAngel said:

yes I did actually, I fucking loathe cs, but I wanna steal cz.

RustedAngel said:

Firstly, you didn't find those wav's, because they cannot be accessed outside the kontact player that comes with DFH2. You probably had the original DFH samples.

Secondly, DFH2 is about a 2 gig download, that's a long time, and a lot of hope that the person that has the file doesn't sign off on you.

Thirdly, why are you looking for places to pirate it, when I already told you to talk to me when you try to get your studio going? Email me sometime, I think I can make you happy, and without even taking my pants off.

those are the best programmed drums ive heard, i wish i could find that for free to use with pro tools, if i dont end up selling it.

i will build a solid state out of my cock and beat you unrelenting with it just to show you how powerful my solid state cock can be...
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