I'm heading off the show in 40 minutes-ish.

back, working on pictures now.

hurry up with the pictures >: )

a review of the show too, please...thanks >: )

give me a break

where else can you get photos that fast


aaron makes all the rest of us look bad

i know, i was trying to be enthusiastic >: )

lol


this is why i don't even want to post myne...by then it will be too late...take 2 days and it's too long

damn....

I wish I went.

pictures are uploading now.

awesome pics, that was waay fast too...thanks

awesome pics and awesome night! i just got home now, i'm shitfaced and tired, i'll write my review tomorrow.

\m/

No randomshot of the cooler?!

That picture of me and Mary is great!

Had a good time, good to see the rev and the missus again. My buddy is passed out on my kids bed so I think he had a good time too. haha. First time seeing Porphyria, they were sick. Nice job Tom. Estuary were great, AWESOME to see Ascendancy again, been a long time. I'm going to go check out The Accursed's pics now. Thanks to those who checked them out!!

ps-Aaron there are two c's in accursed.

THIS SHOW WAS AMAZING
great to see all my metal kin again, you guys put on a hell of a show, can't wait to hang with you all again, made it back on the cape in record time, thanks again to HCN, Ocean, Porphyria, Ascendancy, and Shroud for giving me many boners for many days to come

snowwhitesuicide said:

yep and i told him about shroud typo too

he's going to fix them!

;)

AUTOPSY_666 said:

yar it iz!!

Ok Aaron, where's the review?
:p

see migrane thread..he's lying down...can't look at the screen yet =(

one of the staff guys was a total ass to me.

i had to get my hand restamped 3 times b/c apparently he couldn't see the ink on my skin

blind fuck

grrrr

Ya, who were those dildo security retards anyway? Both of them were a couple of ultra fat mongoloids who came to the show 3/4 of the wat through it and started copping everybody around. Whoever hired these morons needs to have their head examined. Couple of fat dildos they were.

who was the chick that was using the bomb shelter as a daycare center and had hair longer than her entire outfit?

Her 6 year old son is more fucking Metal than most people I know!

He bought a MERCYFUL FATE tribute CD and he is growing his hair that long so he can donate it to cancer kids and then grow it back.

i talked to them both...actually last time aaron and i saw them was about a year ago at a met cafe show and we were talking about that

he's a cute kid!

Just woke up... zzz... good show. Spent way too much money. I only shot Ascendancy last night. Not sure how the pics came out yet.

I forgot that I shot Porphyria, too. The pics came out blurry and hazy from the fucking smoke. My eyes are still burning.

Ascendancy at Heavy Rotation Online
Porphyria at Heavy Rotation Online

I had fun, my neck hurts. I laughed my ass off 3/4 of the night. people there were awesome, funny, metalheads!

Pics look awesome as usual.
Thanks to Dan and the shroud crew for getting us this show.
and kell for being the meat in a hoser/kok sandwich. lol.

Tom, howd that video turn out? hahahahaha
Hoser woke up shawn of porphyria, with his bare ass, tellin shawn,
"play the drums, shawn"
while smacking his ass. hahahahahhaa

good time.

AUTOPSY_666 said:

well i feel like an ass :(

yeah, it was kinda weird, i went to take a piss, and theres a 5 year old girl in the mens bathroom. hahaha ok.
I 'll use the stall, thanks.

boy...not girl

succubus said:

Too bad, you could have gotten some nice young action.

it was sweet meeting ya dirteecrayon, hope to see ya again soon!

thats a boy?
If so it makes more sense, that he was in the boys bathroom!

swamplorddvm said:

Thats plain wrong man!

uh oh

does that make me gay then?

yes he's a boy, his name is Chris

i was going to send his mom links to the pics but i hope she doesn't see your comment swamplord...

Holy hell i did that didn't I?

The last thing that I remember before I went into my beer induced daze was asking Sean to play the drums on my ass cheeks and he looked at me like either he or I was retarded and then he continued to sleep. The look on his face was pretty priceless. I don't think that he was interested in my ass.

"Play the drums Sean, go ahead do it, play the drums, they're free!"

Abbath said:

ditto!

i still want my guided tour of the cape!!!

=)

ok though i am still quite hung over, here is my take on the evening.

hcn- they were awesome, wish i heard a bit mor guitars but overall a great set, the singer gets better and better!


ascendancy was crazy as usual, awesome set, couldn't hear the damn guitars enough, but i still loved their set, great bunch of guys!


i missed liquid violence, man i had to shit, so i went to dunkins, and then got attacked in the parking lot by the car bar crew! wish i at least got to hear em

porphyria- fucking btootal..these guys amaze me!!!!!!!!!!!!!! awesome death metal from nh. and their guitarist shreds! woo hoo!


ocean- fucking stellar set awesome awesome awesome!!!! love em! great intensity!


accursed...good set great energy, too bad they didn't stick around for the party!


estuary was awesome, they fucking rock! hot chick too

melaih rage...man not my thing, i used to love their old stuff, but they sound nothing like they dd. they are good players and i'll give them that...good set, tight as hell!

shroud...well i couldn't hear our keyboardist on stage at all, kelly did a great job, i sweated my balls off. over all i think we did ok!

command presence...they fucking rocked out with their cocks out. and pete did a great job as the second singer...awesome guys, my head, though pounding buy this point did not stop banging the whole set! \m/

this was a great time and i had a blast, shroud would like to thank rev carina, valhalla, jeremy at oak knoll, john at pathos, tim and screaming ferret, tod, serge and all at the bombshelter , all the rttp peeps and the snakenetters for going out. awesome show!

after the show we went to the hotel and partied till 5 am, got kicked out of 4 rooms, the pool area and everywhere untill we got the ok to drink in the pickneck areas. man i was trashed. jake and chris went...all in all a crowd of 30 were partying all over the hotels...awesome wooo hoooo snakenet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

\m/ \m/ \m/ \m/

during liquid violence

tom : what is that guy saying
me : i think drink for a drink
tom : a chink for a chink????

hahahaha

so why didnt 137 or beyond the embrace play?
and I thought cp dropped?

ahahahha you were so high last night power

hahahaha. ya, no different than any other night.

I totally don't remember Command Presence playing... I didn't think I was that drunk.

But it was cool to meet all you RttP peeps, even though I was my usual unsociable self.

RTTP Wins!! By a small margin day 2 of the fest had more people show up and actually stay for the duration.. I had a lot of fun, met some cool people , I just wish I was not stuck up front all friggin day,but from what i heard (could not see) it was cool. Ascendancy sounded awesome ,way better than usual.porphyria was sick as usual(Serge loves you guys). and the rest of the bands were sick ,i could not believe that was a girl singing for Estuary,wow! , after hearing that she gets my vote on the most brutal DM vocalists thread!!...PS.-Terence, those CD's i got from you are killer, Nothing like listenin to Cliteater at 4 in the morning to piss the neighbors off, I guess I was still a little deaf from being at the club all day, cause "apparently" my music was "way to fuckin loud at this time of the night" according to them... oh well fuck'em haha

i am so sorry to command presence...

i was on stage and i guess i stepped on something and turned a guitar off =((((((so sorry!

NO that was us!!!
It was hosers power to his noise supressor!

powerkok said:

huh?

are you kidding?

I must say that the soundguy really sucked. Nothing personal against him....but the sound mix SUCKED.

Guitar is one of the most prominent factors of metal, and they were low all night.
also, Im standing there doing backups, and nothings coming out....we were the first band.
by the time the accursed played ( 6 hours later), the guitarist is doing backups, and nothings coming out.
6 FUCKING hours and the guy still dosent hear that nothing is coming out.
LAME.
Sound guys can make or break a show...and he broke this one imo.
Bands were all good. not their fault at all.

succubus said:

NO! Im not kidding. hahaha.

it was me?

=(

i know it happened during CP because the guitarist told me

and aaron saw it too

sigh

i suck =(

well, I noticed hosers guitar was off and Im like, hmm wtf, then after our set I asked him, and he said succubus hit the power strip.
hahaha whatever.
I also watched rev walk right into a light can, with his head. he kinda looked at it, shook his head a bit and continued shooting. hahahah thats metal.

oh hoser

i'm SO SORRY

oh man

i feel horrible
=(

oh man, you're soooo dead...

hahaha like I said...whatevah!!
MUCH worse has happened.

hey wyrm...when did u guys play last night?!?!
I heard right before shroud went on that cp dropped off?
but I see pics. WHAT GIVES MAN!? ha ha I was there till after Meliah got done, how could I have missed this?

oh and i forgot to give you the cinnabons!!

CP played after SOB

and who is wyrmFingerz?

PowerKok, my excellent dude, we went on after Meliah Rage. ( i guess we finally took BTE's spot)

there were some terrible rumors circulating last night, but it was all good.

FOOK ASS!!
I really wanted to see you guys too.
next time, dammit.

Ya...succubus...the friggin cinnabons..hahaha. next time as well, dammit!

succubus said:


that's a question a lot of people wind up asking.

Todd said:


Todd, Im glad you like those cd's, Cliteater is fucking awesome!

We had a great time, thanks to Dan for hooking us up. Thanks to Kell for just being awesome.Sorry we had to jet before your set.Jenny's show was great. She was happy I made it back in time. I agree that the sound sucked. How do we get to the show next Friday?

good times. I got to hang out with a group of metal gang members. By the end of the night i found that i was also wearing the special colors and clothing as well. the letters rttp across our ripped chests will tell all the posers not to fuck with the metalheads. <3 i love this sweatshirt <3 anyway.. I was quite amused by seeing command pressance, a chick singer who blew me out of the water, the later night hotel/pool and picnic table party, carbar(as usual;)), the redhands something or other tattoo given to me by a child who is growing his hair out so he can cut it off and give to kids with cancer, kelly's hot skirt, and the shots that were poured down the mouths of those on stage. I also was able to hear all about the ascendancy south american tour from terrence. killer! this should become a yearly event.

sounds like you fuckers had a great time while i was pissing away my life in burlington massachusetts.

sarahkubrick said:

ya except next time with valhalla!! \m/

and my joke side project

And hopefully some people (other than the bands and a handful of friends) will show up.

powerkok said:

I did that twice... you saw the first time.
the second time I didn't even look at it cause I knew what I did.

hahahahaha. classic.

i had a super duper, good time. drunk. good.

kok - i will be the meat in your HCN sandwich any day. HA!

reuben - YOU are awesome. i will send you directions for the friday gig. i'm glad Jenny's gig went well. i hope you told her 'good luck' from me.

sarah miles - I LOVE YOU, I LOVE YOU, I LOVE YOU...the elements, in action! I will be at your Nov. 6th gig, but I hope to see you much, much sooner.

josh/ascendancy - good to see you again. i'll try to come to your haunted house.

i though all the bands pretty much rocked, because i love them all. it was good to see my CP chicks again, from the days of old. i agree that the sound was, well, eh...everyone i talked to said our sound was fine, but i couldn't hear a note i sang. i couldn't get any vocals in the moniters. ah well. as long as it sounded fine in the audience.

hahaha, what happend to beyond the embrace playing? were they a no-show? what fags, that band sucks anyway. The BarBq was awesome, thanks to dan's dad!

hand choke neck: tore shit up pretty hard, vocals were a bit lower than usual. s1ck mosh.

ocean: man these guys have some heavy ass riffs, I'm not a huge fan of slow music, but I can definetly get into their shit more than other bands of their genre.

us: OMFG, the levels sounded fine for our quick sound check...as soon as we went into the song I could hear absolutely NOTHING at all except for myself. I was turning myself down in between each song and backing up a bit just to hear the snare drum to keep time. Shawn's guitar wasn't even coming out of his monitor. Dane (drummer) said all he could hear was feedback the entire set. I thought it was our worst show to date due to the circumstances. The last time we played the shelter (14th aug.) the sound was pretty excellent. I don't understand what happend this time around. Hopefully it sounded better in front of the stage, thanks to everyone for the people all around the stage! and for lighting off the party favors, haha.

liquid violence: all I know is that they were all wearing shirts with german flags on them. I was waiting for them to say "hail hitler!" in between songs but I couldn't understand anything they were saying. they weren't really metal at all.

Ascendancy: came on and played a grueling set of brutality. This show I could actually hear terence's vocals pretty well, it's almost hard to believe it's actually coming out of him!!! insane! Definetly hard to hear what was going on at certain points due to the acoustics in a room like that.

The accursed: came on and played an energetic set just as I remember them doing the last few times I've seen them. I don't really know any of the material though. The scream for like 3 minutes straight at the beginning was pretty cool. Iron Lungs. haha.

Estuary: pretty awesome band, probably one of my favorites of the night. Sick vocals, more brutal most guys doing them. heh. Drove 15 hours to play in front of like 30 people, gotta love it! I'm sure they gained 30 fans though.

Shroud: I thought they sounded good over the PA you could hear everything pretty clearly. I don't know how they fit a song into that last 7 minutes though? Dan said they were speeding it up, but it still seemed DOOM to me

I was pretty exhausted at this point and made my trek back home to maine. yay. Drive seemed longer than usual!

Thanks to Snake, for throwing this damn bash, and putting us on the bill, Thanks to dan for recommending us as well! If you're looking for a new forum to explore go check out the snakenet board.

wheres estuary from?

i think ohio?

ps. once again thanks to jess, aaron, carina for the photographs!

RustedAngel said:



Yes. Thank you, guys. It means so much to all of us kids in bands, as you know. You ROCK.

..thank you guys for thanking me even though you haven't seen my pics yet..since i didn't post them yet

<3

hopefully you'll like them!

RustedAngel said:

did i unplug that too?
=(

ya tom, the sound on stage was horrendous, but you guys' sound on the floor was pretty awesome.
trust me, it sounded nothing like the stage mix, cuz halfway thru the set I came back to yer side of the stage and watched from there, and man, what a difference. couldnt hear anything when we played either...I heard my guitar, and the bass guitar that kept popping on certain notes.

succubus said:

hehehehe!

rev's week-ass review:
hand choke neck: the beginning, I was like "what the fuck is that?" I guess they were the guinea pig for the sound of the day. after the first song, the sound kind of normalized. Chris's vocals sounded so much more br00tal than before. I guess the new cd has worked his joking-voice into something bottomless.

ocean: ninkaszi should be pissed that he missed this band. it's a mixture of conifer and noosebomb.

porphyria: largest crowd of the night and the first time that people started to mosh during the night.

ascendancy: unmatched brutality. they had one of the best sounds of the night.

liquid violence: from NY, they came out in matching germany-punk uniforms. I was expecting them to wow everyone with something like impaled. it was a lot different than that. post-thrash music, some of it reminded me of DRI.

the accursed: why do I always take so many damn pictures of them? they get up on stage and are 100% rockstars to the max!

estuary: ok, so this was probably the most brutal band on the bill. that girl's voice put everyone's to shame.

shroud of bereavement: the sound for them was really good. I kept getting pulled away from the stage during their set to shoot pictures of people.

meliah rage: I've never been a big meliah fan. I like a song here or there.

command presence: finally, cp playing again. I'm pretty sure the guitarist and drummer are the only 2 members left since I saw them in 2002.

RustedAngel said:

>to beyond the embrace playing? were they a no-show? what fags, that >band sucks anyway.

I thougt "Beyond the embrace" was fine,,the only band that sucked was shroud of bereavement..what a joke they are !..

It was time to go outside...

BTE didn't even play... shows what you know.

the_reverend said:


nope, just the vocalist is new.

... and better

the_reverend said:

actually, the only new member is kurly(vocals). everyone else is old school, yo.

"the only band that sucked was shroud of bereavement..what a joke they are !.. "

go kill yourself anonymous idiot
shroud is fucking awesome and dan hooks us up, he is the fucking man

anonymous said:

People who insult bands but don't have the balls to say who they are...are also a joke

fun day and night!
highlights by far were hand choke neck, porphyria, the accursed, and shroud! this was by far the most organized show i've ever had the priviledge to take part in. saw lots of new faces and met some good people too! rock on bombsheltah!

ASCENDANCY OWNS YOU!

matt send me that email about the shirt
NOW
please

jprobot@pcw1.com

o ya
hold on

Gotta love that anonymous posting faggot. BTE didn't even play which means that the anonymous asshole wasn't even there which means that he/she/it was probably at home flipping it's bean because it didn't have the balls to show it's face at an RTTP show. That's right anonymous wiener, I know who you are. Eye got my eye on you, pal.

*points finger in sarcastically threatening manner*

I can't wait to see carina's pics!

i got to the show wicked late. i missed basically everyone i wanted to see except for SOB, and Meliah Rage. it was the first time i saw SOB, and i was really impressed. great doom/death metal. the sound was awesome for them. i can't wait to see them again in providence this friday.

meliah rage was basically awful. it was really pathetic seeing a "classic" heavy metal/thrash band play to about nine people. i almost felt bad for them. it was entertaining for about ten minutes. then i went and hung out with josh some more. i saw some of command prescence and it's really not my thing.

it was my first time at the bomb shelter. it was a cool place. hopefully hirudinea can play a show up there with shroud of bereavement once we put out our split cd with watchmaker.

ninkaszi said:

we would love to do shows with yall....maybe with you and valhalla...they rock! lets do it guys! and thanks for the kind words. ohh and the annonomous guy is a coward for sure!....pussy!

cool thanks man, i just want to wait doing shows for awhile until our cd is finally out. our last show will be oct 16 at the choppin block. the cd should be out by the end of the year if all goes well.

i'll see you at the RI show this friday and we'll drink some beers. cheers!

I hope the turnout is good for Friday's show at KC's Tap.

Mike, it's actually in Pawtucket (the bucket), north of Providence.

are there any nudie bars near the tap?

arrgggh
matt you didnt send that email

steph, just hold out til montreal!

sweet!

get on aim!

ninkaszi said:

sounds like a plan.

so snake is sorta mad at me, and everything about the fest apparently :( Here's basically the convo taken from the snakenet board. I know I wasn't the only one that thought Liquid Violence were skinheads. I apologized about assuming that and now I'm being accused of not supporting any of the bands even though I watched every band play their entire sets which is more than I can say for some of the people there. Am I being the asshole here, I don't even know? Someone help me out here.



I thought maybe their families originated from Germany...but I guess not? why are they sportin' german flags then? just curious?



I've met some skins that have some hair, it doen't require you to be bald. For the record, I never complained about our timeslot, and again, I watched their entire set as well as all the other bands. I wasn't the only one who had this thought cross their mind so don't get upset with me over it.



honestly, even though they are not nazi skins, I wasn't digging their punk/hardcore music. Again, I still watched them.



Snake, attendance at the bombshelter is always piss poor, you saw the shadows fall show, sure there was a decent amount of people there but that's a HUGE show for the area. There were not as many people there as their would be if they played the palladium in MASS. Even cannibal corpse can hardly draw in manchester. As a matter of fact the first time they came to Manch. w/ Hate Eternal there was about 60 people there tops...The Bloodletting tour show at the bombshelter was also a poor turnout considering all the bands were absolutely sick! (gorgasm, spawn of possession, pyaemia, severed savior, goratory, ascendancy) there was about 50 people at that show.



We didn't blow anything. Todd the door guy told me that we drew 26 people halfway through the show. So what are you talking about there? I watched all the bands. Never did I hang outside while a band was playing despite the horrible smoke problem in there. Stop assuming that I wasn't supporting anything just because I mistakenly thought a band was 'about' something I disagree with.



We drew over 26, I as well as the Rev RTTP and Carina noticed we had the most people out front for us as well. I can't speak for anyone else. I'm actually suprised we have a fanbase at all, we've only been playing shows since June. I've been working my ass off in this band, part of the reason why I broke up with my girlfriend because I wanted to focus 100% on the band and it sucks. Here's another weird story, We played another Bar literally down the street called Milly's Tavern back in July w/hcn,laz and over 130 people showed up! We got paid $110 for playing a 15 minute set opening! I'm pretty sure the club itself did some heavy advertising. I think if Serge hired someone to do club promo the bombshelter could potentially start to draw attendance like that for even local shows!!!



I, or my band never complained about our timeslot, we were actually grateful that we got to play 3rd. Dude, why are you blaming me for what you think is a failure? All this spawned from a false accusation which I already apologized for.

i hope snake sees this....

i don't think it's fair to blame Tom for the low turnout...i know for a fact he did his part to promote BOTH days of the show....unlike others

Why is he being blamed?

Also, Porphyria seemed to have the largest crowd....so i dunno why Tom is getting blamed for anything...the reverend and i were talking about how great the crowd response was too.

i also saw Tom watch that band and he was there the whole time as was i..again...some people were outside during their set...but NOT tom...which is why this post doesn't make sense to me...


as for the skinhead thing...it was just a misunderstanding...to be honest..i wasn't sure at first either...i can say when i was in highschool i knew a skinhead with a mohawk that had the same jacket...i know the singer from 30 seconds to mars has one too and he's not a skinhead...

still...why is he being blamed for the low turn out .... i don't get it...

i never heard them complain about their time slot either...

~~~~

i had a fun time at the show...i enjoyed all the bands and hope to post my pics of ALL THE BANDS soon!

bottom line, more people wouldve went if there was a good headlining band.
people arent going to rush out the door to see their local favorites at 3 pm on a saturday. thats just assinine. If snakenet had a good headlining band...(not some semi-good metal blade band that no ones heard of, and didnt show up), then people would have prolly come out.

Yes, Porphyria drew 26 people, HCN drew 23, thats 2 bands that drew more than 20. Also, as luck would have it, they were also 2 of the 3 first bands.
Do the math...thats 50 people. of 70 total people...
Whats that tell you?

Also, The whole promoting thing...I know We put flyers everywhere, and told as many people as we could about this show, even though, I didnt expect even 10 HCN fans to show due to the early start time.

I strongly believe that a metalfest, should be promoted by the people in charge of the fest, seeing how, in the end, its THEIR show, and it reflects on them.
I also heard some bullshit about not supporting the first day.
some people have lives. They cannot go to a club on the day before they have to be at the same club at 1pm. Especially when it got turned into, 'which day will draw more' contest. Some bands practiced friday night, so that they were primed and ready for the saturday show.

As for that, bands were told to show up 2 hours before they played. We were there at 1 pm, waiting. The snakenet people didnt even show up till 2:30!!!! Ur so metal, that youre an hour and a half late to your own show!

I have no problems with anyone on this, but Im stating pure, fact.
and the sound sucked balls.

some one should tell snake that i drove a total of 300 miles to see this show, and the guys from ocean drove from maine! that's dedication, the only vibe i got from those people were all negitive, i remember one of the guys flipped out on some people because they asked for some food free saying "NONE OF YOU SHOWED UP LAST NIGHT SO WHY DO YOU THINK YOU DESERVE ANYTHING!?" ya dude way to go

honestly, evryone i talkd to and judging by the video, i beleive shroud had the biggest amount of people watching...but what does that matter?
and weather or not people counted... we had at least 20 people there, sorry guys, but my whole family was there , my girlfriends family was there, my keyboardist's family was there...her boyfriend, my girlfriend. mike from eternal embrace, jeremy from oak k-noll, serge(the russian metal mother fucker. kelly's brother, and half of our fans happen to be snakenetters. why has it turned into this? and the headliner was a huge point in the no turnout.

this scene is pathetic, and thats the bottom line! i lost money on this fest as well. i really wish we had more people and i wish all the bands did. but this is new england, and its not the bands fault. its different everytime. we had the same line up a few months ago...ocean, porphyeria,hcn,and shroud we got 80 peeps...go figure!

well we had no family there, other than my little brother and todd said we had 26 people. I'm not gonna argue about who had the most people there, the only reason why I brought that up was because I was being accused of not drawing at least 20 people.

Snake apologized to Tom. It's all good. He explained everything. He's not blaming the bands. If anyone wants to read it, they can go to the Snakenet site. I don't want to copy and paste.

Ya I also think Shroud had the biggest floor audience. Not that it matters at all, because between shroud porph and hcn, that accounts for the 70- people...you cant tell me only 70 people showed up all day...there had to be more. 23 , 26, 25....for just 3 bands!! you cant tell me, not ONE other person came for any other bands!!
what about ascendancy? they had peeps...
so did the accursed.

I still had a good time regardless of some minor problems.

powerkok said:

Me too. I had tons of fun. That should be all that matters. I love all the bands that played, and I'll play with them again any day of the week, regardless of what any band draws, I will watch any band in the scene that's friendly and plays good music.

Again, Snake did apologize to Tom. It's all good.

yay!!

=)

I look at these words on this computer screen and see only a silent-never ending argument that seems like deja vu so many times over, over so many similar things in the past. Move on to the next thing now.
Do it better next time. This time is done.

yes things are good now, I just said the wrong thing at the wrong time. my bad. I just saw german army flag uniforms on a band from NY and made a false accusation. Sorry to liquid violence.

ok, another thing, tom should not have suffered the brunt of this whole thing! he did more than his part to support this thing,i saw all the posts and he was at the show the whole day, and that's more then i can say for half of the bands on this thing. though i didn't see him there on friday...it's all good though
one thing that i have to say is you can't please anyone, and thats a fact....these things make me wonder why i'm even playing anymore!
fuck it! im sick of the soap opera, backstabbing, unapreciative, bullshit that goes on! fuck it all!

yeah, I did have plans friday night, but I know that's no excuse. However, I am not into any of the bands that played friday at all. If there was at least one band that was playing that I was into I probably would have cancelled all plans and gone esp. since it would have been free.

and dan you're aware of the ERIC vs. RTTP drama. You showed up on Friday, yet no Eric on Saturday. I knew he wouldn't show.

ha haha...true that! and a csdo cronnie even insulted my band...it's comical really! ha ha ha

i must say distrust are bad assed these days, and you did miss their set. they rock. i fucking rushed down there to see their set and missed it myself...grrrr

whatever though. i'm done with drama and soap operas in general. from now on, i'm going to let my other band members do the promo for a while, as i am tired of the whole fucking thing! and i'm tired of message board drama. i will not even get involved in band fights, let people say what they will. i work too hard in my band to let shit bother me.

..Yeah, Eric was too scared of you, rusted angel. That's why he didn't show on Saturday.

well, that and he doesnt seem too keen on supporting local metal, as apparent of his lack of promoting the second day.

i should talk, considering i didnt even go. =(

Corpsegrinder said:

nope he was scared of the fact that there would be about 30 people there that think he's a douchebag.

you have 30 boyfriends?

..so thats's where you get the dick photos you little queer.

Um ok. I don't understand what all the hot air is about. I thought turnout was decent but still strong. It coulda been better if some more established local bands played but it was awesome that these bands got the opportunity to partake in the fest. It would have been better if there were well known out of state bands playing. Decrypt, Mortal Decay, Misery Index woulda drawn easily 10 people a piece for a very small fee in comparision to some other bands fees which were just ridiculous. There are tons of bands within 12 hours of here that woulda and coulda drawn great, oh well. The Bombsheltah was the perfect place for this, I blame nothing on them, I thought they handled this very well for the most part. Liquid Violence was just kinda out of place. I didn't mind the music all that much but I don't think anyone there saw or felt anything metal about them, NE is clicky. On behalf of myself and Ascendancy there were no regrets, objections or any sort of hostility towards our given set time. I thought it was perfect, plus with the 3 bands that dropped off many bands got some extra time too which is always a plus. I'd definately put this show in one of our top 5 shows of this year. I thought the sound on stage was a little bad but nothing wicked extreme. Sound on the floor was pretty good. Every band was pretty damn tight. Um and I heard that BTE canceled cause the drummer had to be hospitalized cause he has a rare condition that prevents blood from circulating to certain parts of his body, he was having trouble with his leg apparently, bummer.

I <3 Josh. Well said. Right on. It was one of my top shows of the year, too. I had a great time.

I gave up No kids in the house poon pokin party, to stay and watch EVERY band too. even though the show was an obvious flop.

Snakes tude couldve used some tweaking, but 3 days of hotel living, and a metalfest thate was sinking faster than oprah in a vat of chocolate pudding, took its toll on him, I guess.

Yes Abbath, I heard that food comment...that was snake. That really pissed me off too...but I kept my mouth shut.
Dan, about the whole promotion part of this....I spent money and time outta my own pocket to promote this show, even tho we were opening, and not even close to mattering on the bill give or take. So, I want you to know that. We also did above and beyond what we had to for this show, w/o even a thx from anyone, so I dont wanna hear any crap!!
hahaha...ok Im kiddin about the crap thing, but the rest is serious.

I jokingly made a comment on the SnakeNet board that I deliberately avoided reading the comments here because I was afraid I would go off on a rant. Kell agreed in a follow up post, so of course I had to see what was said. ;)

PowerKoK is right. The show flopped. No one is responsible for that other then me. I am the promoter and organizer and when the show fails, the buck stops with me. I have no problem accepting the blame.

Yeah. My attitude did need a serious adjustment. I hate doing shows that tank. The bands that played for the most part spent the rest of the night outside or left. Bands that played one day didn't come out for the other. I vented my frustration on Tom, but it wasn't him or his band that was the problem. Honestly, it wasn't any of the opening acts problem. The headliners didn't draw. Even if BTE had played, there still wouldn't have been an additional people there since no one knew their drummer would be hospitalized hours before they were supposed to play. Seven Witches drew nothing either. Maybe that was partly the Dio/Anthrax show, but most likely it wasn't. I had been told by quite a few people they wouldn't draw. Obviously they were right and I was wrong.

As far as the bands not coming out and supporting each other goes. Yeah....that is a major issue for me. I don't expect bands to drive hundreds of miles to come out for one night, but enough people that I knew from the RI/MA area that were at the show Friday went home and were back the next day. I'm not going to belabor the point. It should be obvious to people. The guilty know who they are the ones that are not shouldn't be offended by the comments.

Yeah...my food remark was WAY out of line. I wanted to apologize the minute I said it, but I didn't have the balls to do it, so please accept my apology for that even though it is late. It was uncalled for. It was frustration speaking.

There was a lot of shit that went wrong behind the scenes that isn't public knowledge on this board, but I discussed in too much detail on the SnakeNet boards. Probably if you were aware of all we had to combat, you'd know that it was far more then the dismal turnout that was stressing me out.

As far as which band drew how many people...

The total paid at the show on Friday was 81. The total on Saturday was 98. Of those, 26 people were from the SnakeNet site. A couple of them were wives or friends of Command Presence and Shroud. The rest were SnakeNet people that flew in from out of town. None of those people were coming to see any band in particular. They were coming to party with their friends from SnakeNet.

Serg showed me a sheet that Todd keeps to tell which people that came through the door came to see which band. Obviously if they are only given one choice, it is impossible to really say whether they would have listed a different band if their first choice wasn't there. Admittedly, I was pretty toasty when Serg was showing me the numbers. However, I remember him repeating time and time again that not one band drew more then 20 people. In my state of intoxication, I remember seeing 17 listed for Meliah Rage. I have my doubts about the validity of that number or my memory....take your pick. I also saw only one person for marked for Command Presence and one person marked for The Accursed. I know for a fact that a good number of the people that were there were wives, girlfriends and friends of Command Presence. That number could not have been accurate. Matter of act, at one point someone told me there were four people waiting in the parking lot that weren't going to come in if CP wasn't playing. I thought it must have been friends of mine playing a joke on me, but I didn't know any of those people and that is what they told me.

The real point is, does it really matter if one band drew 23 or another drew 11 based on a quiz at the door? Not really. The bottom line is excluding the SnakeNet people, 55 came out on Friday and 72 came out on Saturday. Haggle over who drew the most out of that if you want, but it really isn't going to mean a damn. The show still tanked and I am still ultimately responsible.

Yeah...doing a show that loses money sucks. But why I get so PO'd about bands not supporting each other is that we can't afford to be divided. No one band is bigger then the scene. We all need to work together so that everyone has a good crowd. Who plays which slot and who drew more of those that are there is irrelevent. I feel fucking horrible that many bands drove hundreds of miles to play in front of 30 or 50 people. I feel responsible. I feel even worse when virtually ever person walked out of the club before Liquid Violence even hit their first note. Fortunately a few people filtered in before their set was over, but when there were 100 paying and 50 or so band members there, that is just damn rude that no one watched.

But hey...no one is required to do something they don't want to do. If people paid money to stand outside and smoke or eat while they were playing, that is their right. I can't and won't try to force them to watch something against their will.

According to a few people I talked to, drawing 80 to 95 people a day was better then average for Manchester. The turnout certainly didn't suck for lack of promotion....except from the two bands at the top of the bill each night and they are nationals and I guess doing a small fest like this isn't a big deal for them. Dan and Layla were over the top with pushing this show. Every band except Distrust and BTE had the show posted on their site and even BTE added it before the show....only a couple of days before the show, but it was still before the show. And they were on tour, so they are pretty much excused. Without question, this was the best promoted show I have ever done. We had great press and good street teaming. We many never know why it didn't draw even 100 people a day, but it doesn't really matter. I know I did my best. I know Dan, Layla, Tim from Screaming Ferret, the SnakeNet people and many of the RTTP ppl did their best too. There is no shame in losing when you give you best effort, so I can live with this.

The first time I did a fest like this in NC, the show totally tanked. It wasn't as bad as this one, but I have done plenty of shows that didn't draw more then 40 people. That first year I lost more money doing that fest then a lot of people earn in a year. It didn't stop me from doing one the next year and with some minor tweaks, the next one had double the attendance. I believe we can do that with this fest too. I'll just have to take what I learned from this one and do a better job promoting it the next time.

Serg wants me to do more shows at the Bombshelter. I will certainly try to do that. When the next one will be and what form it takes isn't certain, but I am a fighter, not a quitter. I'm sure the next one will be bigger and better.

Thanks to everyone that came out. Thanks to all the bands that were playing. Thanks to the RTTP crew and thanks to everyone that was involved. We'll get 'em next time.

Snake you are the balls!!!! CHEERS BRO!!!!!!

awesome

ya man, very well said...cya in the future, and thanks for the show.

Originally posted by Snake: "Every band except Distrust and BTE had the show posted on their site"
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Oops... I spend so much time on the computer (not)... We have only had three shows so far since we got back together a few months ago and none of them were listed on our site. All future shows will indeed be listed however... I will personally make sure of it.

well said. Ive experienced way too many shows I've set up where Ive lost money, but I keep going. Its the metal way, unfortunately.

right on, Snake. right on.

"no shoes, no shirt, no service"

what do you work for hooters or something???

some guy said this to me and it was the funniest thing but i have no idea who he is.

the bombshelter wants promoters that mke money for them and that don't rip them off.
I honestly wish massconcerts would try to set up some shows there... so certain (hated) promoters stop ripping off bands and the bombshelter...
get some $$ into the BS so they can get more stuff moving.

right on man!

Actually, the little boy's name is Trent. His mom, Suzanne, and him are friends/fans of CSDO.

yup, i first talked to them at a CSDO show and we talked about that

i really thought his name was chris...my bad

oh, i forgot one of my favorite parts of the weekend. who had the noise maker thingy? Was that Porphyria? My drunk memory fails me. "this is to signify the break down". HA! Classic! Too bad it was just squeaking.

Sparkie said:


that's unfortunate

kellthevalkyrie said:

HAHAHAHA

yeah, I bought the horn last week... When I gave it to tim to use he broke the actual horn off it so it squeeled instead. lol. I had some party poppers left over from july4th so I told him to give them out to people. It was pretty funny.

RustedAngel said:


It was very funny. I was cracking up when he showed it to me and Dan and told us it was to signify the break down. Priceless. Then when I heard it squeal during your set, i was like "oh my, here comes the break down!"

Hey RustedAngel,

First off : I had to work on Saturday 10am to midnight. I made a lot of money that day!! I also got laid that night by a sexy chick I met that same day

Second : If I could've gone on Saturday, I would've showed up just to see Shroud and Meliah Rage........

It's great to see that all of the bands that played didn't pass out any fliers....... I guess I was the only one!! Oh, Dan got some out too........ You just can't use the internet to advertise.........

Thank you to Snake and crew for trying to put on a good show!! Also much gratitude to the following : Timmy Koukos (Screaming Ferret Wreckords) and Red Right Hand, Travis and all of the guys in Distrust, Jack Frost and Seven Witches, OverLorde and Black Widow..................

fucking OCEAN!

I wish I could have seen this show but we were in New Orleans I think.
We are home now and coming to Boston soon with our brothers.

"It's great to see that all of the bands that played didn't pass out any fliers....... I guess I was the only one!! "

asshole. if you fucking read this whole post, youll realize, (maybe)
that a SHITLOAD of flyers were passed out by quite a few bands on the 2nd day.
When I heard that you made fliers w/o any info on day 2, I did the same. Just cuz yer name isnt on it, dosent mean its not a flier you conceited fuck.
Ive had enough of reading your ignorant posts of how you rule in your own fantasy world.
do you think we care how much $ you made from 10 am to midnight? or if you got laid?
guess what? rttp drew more than your band.
what do you think of that?

CandyStriperDeathOrgy said:

Hey CandyStriperFaggotORgy,

First Off: Everyone thinks your a douchebag.

Second: Everyone here thinks your a douchebag.

Third: You blow asshole.

Fourth: You love the cock.

Fifth: We didn't just use the internet to advertise, Eat Shit.

Sixth: Your a douchebag, not welcome here, go away.

i passed out at least 75 flyers. and i think everyone saw the add, in the emails we sent out and on this forum...we put every band and set times, for both days. but it doesn't matter. it's over and we just have to look forward to doing a better job in the future! hail our scene...i was a bit dissappionted, but i know we have a killer scene! \m/ to the next one!

man,i can't even comment because it would take way to long to post my response. but it was fun,poor turnout no one person's fault anyway,Snake is really cool, and I thank him for even considereing our club in the first place to put a show on like this, Now if everyone will ignore anything posted by eric,we will be all set.


P.S.- Aaron, I love the hoodie,man !!

CandyStriperDeathOrgy said: I'm assuming you met her after work being between 12:00 and 1:30 AM means you knew her for about 1 AND A HALF HOURS thats a little too easy dude!Just think! They go home with white trash like you every night, I bet you got Herpies or mabye the Clap. Congrats!!!!!

Hey Rusted Faggot,

Your shitty band is playing on the fest too.... Boy, I'm surprised they let gaybaits on the bill!! Would you like me to bring a guy blow up doll from one of my stores for you?

Rusted Scum Fuck,

I'll keep posting here whenever I want..... O.k. fuckwad?

damn dude, i don't know if you knew this man, but porphyria fucking rock! i mean, they will tear you apart...seriously

ohh and tim could crush you with 2 fingers, i'd watch what ya say when he's around he might not blow the horn and warn you about a drop kick to the face/breakdown.....did you ever get that thing working correctly guys?

eric no offence here,we are cool now and i'm not trying to start shit, just stating some facts here!!

I think tom could take him.

Tasmanian Tom...the most dangerous animal in metal.

What am I doing up...off to bed with me....

yeah, get to bed pussy!

hee hee heee, you people are silly.

im rubber your glue, your silly so go screw!


ha ha

hey carina, you never did post your pictures of this did you?

yeah what up wit dat? yo!