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returntothepit >> discuss >> Guitar question by Dick_Bloodeye on Sep 8,2004 7:35pm
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toggletoggle post by Dick_Bloodeye at Sep 8,2004 7:35pm
I have a few questions about the neck joint and construction, ect on my ltd, is anyone here good with that sortof stuff? theres got to be a few gurus on the board.



toggletoggle post by My Dying Bride NLI at Sep 8,2004 7:47pm
i built 3 guitars....ask away



toggletoggle post by Dick_Bloodeye at Sep 8,2004 8:03pm
well first of all, it's a neck thru, I want to know how strong the wood holding it together is. the neck is angled back while many guitars arent, why? the top of the guitar is 3d almost domeish, why is that? and lastly why do the strings go right through the body if they make bridges that you can attach the strings right on?



toggletoggle post by retzam at Sep 8,2004 8:06pm
1. no clue, take it mdb
2. it is an arch top, just a cool body design
3. the throughbody system is just a style of doing it, not sure if it serves any purpose



toggletoggle post by niccolai   at Sep 8,2004 8:26pm edited Sep 8,2004 8:26pm
neckthrus are the better of four different kinds of neck joints, it's traditionally a neck with a paddle at the end wich is used as the body and wings are glued on to either side with wood glue. Wood glue (alphetic resin concentrate) actually melts the wood on a molecular level, forming a stronger bond than the natrul wood itself if done right. you can try and smash a neck through guitar and the wood will break into pieces, but the glue line will never crack assuming the luthier did it correctly. the reason neck thrus are so great is because it allows the bridge to be on the same piece of wood as the headstock, making the entire part of the guitar that has tention one piece, wich will resonate it better and ultimately sustain longer. The neck angle is important, it directs the string tention to the headstock correctly, and the headstock should be bet back even further to keep the tention on the neck joint rather than the headstock. different bridges will have different angles, kahlers and floyds have bigger angles, while fixed bridges, like your tonepros, have less angle. fender uses straight necks and straight headstocks with bolt on bodies and the bodies are routed like a swimming pool, one of the reasons a fender will sustain for half a second while a good end schecter will sustain for 8. The archtop many people think is cosmetic, and often it is, but gives the string a look that they are higher up than the rest of the guitar and are easily accessable. I find them more comfortable than flat guitars. archtopping doesn't really effect sound though. The string through body piercings on your schecter is a bridge system made by tonepros, it's the tunamatic type that has little ferruls for the strings to guide right through the body of the guitar. it's actually better than the wrap around bridges your refering to (quad, les paul tailpiece, PRS, ect) because the string is contacting and resonating the body wood the hole time, once again adding sustain. Schecters are sustain machines, great import you have there.



toggletoggle post by powerkok   at Sep 8,2004 8:45pm
ya...what he said.exactly.



toggletoggle post by retzam at Sep 8,2004 8:58pm
Whoa niccolai. I always thought a neckthru was when the body and neck were carved from the same piece of wood. But, I have a question then. If what you described is a neckthru then what is a set neck? Also, I never realized that an archtop could actually benefit some people's playing. Awesome.



toggletoggle post by niccolai   at Sep 8,2004 10:21pm edited Sep 8,2004 10:27pm
a set neck is like a neck thru, but the neck only goes past about the neck pickup and is glued it, the body is still seperate.
this is the mcs arachnid ultra number 1 neck thru, you can see how the wings are on either side of the body.



toggletoggle post by My_Dying_Bride at Sep 8,2004 11:40pm
ya once you put the strings on it it will pull the neck up al little but not much (depending on how dense the neck wood is) its ok to have it arched a little because you adjust the action by the bridge..(its a lot harder to set your action if the neck is concaved, as opposed to convexed)...and the strings through body design is sweet..i built a telecaster that had string through design and it is (like niccolai said) great for sustain



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