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:	post by brian_dc at 2007-01-12 11:54:04

abhorred said:

I have to ask the people who use noise reduction racks/pedals in front of their amps, do you really think its worth it? you are just putting BAD sounding circuits (yeah those $100 pedals, that are mass manufactured in japan, don't really take into acount preserving signal quality) in the signal path from your guitar to your head. especially the people playing through nice gear!

i don't mean to be a dick and call you out, but brian dc, you are running a MH-1000NT into a a/b box into a noise reduction pedal (ugh) into one of the best sounding, high gain, botique amps ever! are you using that much gain that you have serious noise problems?!? i play through a bogner uberschall (which has some fucking gain!!!) and have no problems with feedback or extranious noise.

whatever, im not trying to be an asshole, just being a gear snob! haha

maybe we can have a intelligent conversation about this shit!?!

p.s. monster fucking BLOWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MOGAMI all the way!

blue said:

ALL HAIL TEH ALMIGHTY GEAR SNOBBERY

There are a few issues with the ENGL that make me go the route that I do.

The first thing is that the built in Noise Gate is not organic enough, AT ALL. The fact that it has a built in Noise Gate leads me naturally to my next point.

The reason why there is a built in noise gate is that without it, the ENGL is obnoxiously noisy and almost unplayable at loud volumes. I got the ISP because it is the only supressor that can actually kill the noise on the ENGL without it sounding like someone switched off the circuit, cutting off chords or notes held for a long interval, etc.

The other issue about the ENGL is that in a non-miced environment a lot of the amps positives become it's negative. It is a very smooth, high gain amp. It is one of the things I love about it. However, to get a quality mid-cut out of it, you end up losing a lot of overall tone. So, my solution was to continue running my Dual in tandem with it at a lower volume. It sort of picks off where the ENGL leaves off in big rooms.

About the a/b stuff. I have been contemplating cutting out the Mesa part of my rig. And for club shows, I only use the ENGL with the a/b still so that I can keep my tuner out of the ENGL's loop. (By the way, the tuner is never in the ENGL's loop, I keep it in the Mesa loop because it's lower volume and really only there to carry my parts further in the room). I need to have the tuner at my beck and call live because of the fact that I don't play a Floyd and it does go out of tune. I understand that there is a slight effect on my signal because of this. But I also understand that other people listening really don't care about that. By the way, I have played straight into the amp, and it is just a subtle difference.

I am thinking about only running the ENGL alone today in practice and trying that out, but still through both cabs of course.

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