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: post by SteveOTB at 2006-12-27 11:32:18
aeser said:
pay to play is the most desperate pathetic thing i can think of doing, and lets for a moment examine the excuses sheisty cheapskates give to justify this:

1: "oh you're an unknown band and this is a chance to get some precious exposure"

yea, you're unknown, the best way to get known is to WRITE SOME GOOD FUCKING MUSIC AND RECORD AND RELEASE IT EITHER YOURSELF OR ON A LABEL IF YOU ARE LUCKY ENOUGH TO HAVE ONE ASK YOU TO DO A RECORD, and playing a lot of shows where you don't get total bitch timeslots, you don't get big by paying to open for some huge headliner because guess what, people couldn't give a shit about your band and most won't even show up till you're done playing because %99.9999999 of the time opening bands suck and people are there to see headliners, not you, if you happen to kick so much ass that you WOULD get anywhere off playing that ONE show opening for a national, then you can also make a name for yourself playing smaller shows on a regular basis and getting your records out there, and that $375 or $1000 or whatever ridiculous ammount buys some decent studio time and or pays for cd pressing, so you decide which is better to spend your money on

2: "oh well you can just sell tickets and make your money back"

what schmuck buys tickets to a show from some random band? people buy them from the venue or ticketmaster or whatever the fuck, no ones gonna give YOU the same ammount of money they'd pay the venue itself, you are going to get stuck with the tickets, count it as a loss, the best you can do is offer them at half price or some goddamn incentive for your friends to buy them from you vs. the venue itself


You make a very valid point. The only good thing that came out of playing the Cattle Decapitation show was when we got off stage the guys from CD came up to use and said we were fucking awesome and we all hung out and played pool. Other than that no one really cared.

I think the best way for us is to play as many shows as possible, promote the band every chance I can get, try to make some contacts, and talk to a small indie label about putting out an album for us. That's all I can really think of doing that would work for us in the long run. We just signed an endorsement deal with No Fear Clothing which is our first endorsement so maybe that'll help us gain some exposure as well. What it comes down to is that you just need to bust your ass if you want to get anywhere. Just like any company you start from the ground and build your way up, being in a band and shooting for success is no different.
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