ok, I'm not reading that all. I think it's funny that boobtoucher and joe are agruing and saying dumb things. and by funny, I mean retarded.

joe fun fact: after the o'briens show that the_network played, joe stated that he wished he could book them there again, but can't cause they are banned. he said they were awesome. joe then, I think, put them on a show at the middle east upstairs.

the_network fun fact: the_network are always sad about any label that won't sign them. this includes not common records. what they need to do is get out of their dover house more and play/tour.

the "scene" fun fact: if joe, jess, middle east, anne, chrisabomb, chopping block, rttp, carina, or whatever wasn't there, there would still be shows/magazines/bands/websites/photographs/cd releases. someone would be there to step up and do whatever to fill in a spot where there is demand (don't make me go into a supply/demand speech), but the fact of the matter is that with our scene right here, right now, a person who sets up shows and puts out CDs is walking away. this thread is for people to voice their opions about that or whatever. If joe were to stay away permanently, it would take a while for someone to come fill his shoes, but it would happen.

"metalcore" fun fact: 99% of the times that you all throw around the word "metalcore" it's used just like saying to someone "you are gay". it's not saying to them "you, sir, are a flaming homosexual" you are saying "you, man, are super lame". there are tons of bands that I would consider "metalcore" that a lot of you people like, but I'm not about to say anything cause I LIKE A LOT OF METALCORE.

all this bickering is retarded and isn't helping anyone.
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